Disparan contra dos policías durante protestas en Ferguson

Han disparado contra al menos dos policías durante una protesta frente a la estación de Policía de Ferguson, estado de Misuri, informan medios locales. Un testigo escribió en Twitter que un policía recibió un disparo en la cara.Los disparos parecían provenir de la dirección de un bloque de viviendas en Tiffin Avenue. Los testigos informaron desde dos hasta cuatro disparos. El tiroteo trajo a escena a un contingente mayor de oficiales, muchos de ellos con rifles de gran poder.

[#9 BBE]

#7 Bueno, ahora según tu "lógica" lo normal es los policías matasen a varios de los atacantes que llevan meses con agresiones y ahora esto. En fin, otro pirado al ignore.

Justificando intentos de asesinato aleatorios, háztelo mirar.

[#10 kumo]

#9 Vaya, ahora que yo iba a amigarte por la agudeza de tus comentarios

[#11 noexisto]

#10 LOOOL (haya paz)

#6 Cuanta razón (no veas lo que me fijo en los users a veces ) El@Ultimonick ese que se ponga un avatar! No a los hacendados! Rediez!

[#2 Desactivado]

La solución a los problemas raciales en USA entre policía y apoliciados, por el viejo Fred:

If They Don't Want to be Policed, Don't Police Them

It is obvious, is it not, that all of the recent problems with the police have occurred because cops keep meddling with people. If the fuzz had left Rodney King alone, Los Angeles would not have burned. If the cop in Ferguson had not stopped Michael Brown after he robbed the store, the town would not have burned. If a New York cop had not tried to keep from selling illegal cigarettes, there would be no protests. If OJ Simpson had not been prosecuted for murdering his wife, racial tension would have been less. On and on.

It is blindingly clear that nothing but trouble results when cops interact with criminals in places of high diversity. It makes no sense to meddle. It is racism. It is irresponsible. It leads to arson. It needs to stop.

And it can.

If you were a young white cop just out of the academy, and asked my advice, I would say, "When on the street, mind your own business." For example, if you see a drug dealer on the corner peddling rock, what should you do? Nothing. Doing nothing protects you, protects the dealer, and keeps the locals from burning the neighborhood. As a police officer, it is your duty to protect.

Do nothing. Here's why: Let us suppose that the dealer is young, weighs 290 and, when you try to arrest him, says, "Fuck off, whitey." You are 35, 180, and haven't been to the gym for a while. What can you do?

You could call for backup and five of you could swarm the guy, but that looks bad to the population. ("Dem white muhfuhs be gangin' up on a brotha.") Your other choices are try to wrestle him down, pepper-spray him, Tase him, club him, or shoot him. All of these are ugly to watch and upset the locals.

All have a chance of ending unhappily. The perp has asthma and the pepper spray does him in, or has a weak heart and the Taser croaks him.

Then here come Jesse and Al, Barack and Eric, the Four Horsemen of the Acopalypse. You will be raped in the media, lose your job and your mortgage, goodbye retirement, and face six months of media circus, death threats against your family, civil suits by the family and civil-rights charges by the feds.

Don't risk it. You have nothing to gain and everything to lose. Leave drug peddlers alone. Don't get involved.

Nonintervention, note, will please everybody. If your department really is brutal, as all are said to be, you can't be brutal if you leave people alone. Complaints about misbehavior will diminish, pleasing blacks and liberals, and this will make your chief happy.

When you go on the street as a rookie, you will find that police incidents fall into three categories.

First, things that you encounter by chance: crack whores, bar fights, drug dealers, muggings, burglaries, the fifteen-year-old runaway being worked by her pimp, the guy breaking car windows to steal the GPS. These are the small change of police life. Ignore them. You can later say that you didn't see anything. It is much harder for the feds to come after you for something you didn't do than for something you did. Again, you have nothing to gain by interfering with local enterprise.

Second, hot calls: rape in progress, armed robbery in progress. You have to answer these because dispatchers record their radio traffic. They are, however, calls dangerous to you. For example, rapists often have violent tendencies. They usually do not want to go to jail. A rapist may attack you with a length of rebar, in which case your choices are to shoot him or have your skull crushed. How do you profit from either of these outcomes?

The armed robbery offers equal hazards with no rewards. Armed robbers typically are armed. In a shootout you very possibly get killed, which is not to your advantage, or the perp does. It then turns out that he was sixteen, wanted to go to divinity school, the gun was plastic or a cell phone. Brutality, extremism, overreaction, profiling, black lives matter, and here come the Four Horsemen.

But a wise cop can easily avoid these perils. Rapes don't last long, nor do armed robberies. When you respond to the call, drive at the speed limit, stop for traffic lights, and hit the siren and bar lights well before you arrive at the scene. When you get there, the rapist will be long gone.

This is a happy ending for everyone. You are happy because you will not be charged with racially motivated murder. The rapist is happy because he will not go to jail. Businesses are happy because they won't be looted, the locals because a brothah was not mistreated.

Be very careful of profiling beefs. Since this sin is not defined, you can never tell when you have committed it. Suppose you encounter a 2015 Beamer with the passenger-side window broken out, plates with rust stains around the bolt holes, and a nineteen-year-old driver in ghetto-bag attire who refuses to make eye contact. What do you do?

Nothing. It would be profiling. (If you saw him run out of a bank with a gun in one hand and a bag of money it the, and arrested him, it would be profiling.) Don't risk it. The locals will appreciate your sensitivity.

Technical tip: Don't run the tags out of curiosity. They will come back to a 2006 Camry, and you will be on electronic record as knowing the car was stolen and not doing anything about it. It isn't your problem. The insurance company can handle it.

If you are of liberal leanings, you can think in terms of cost and benefit. Is an $80 GPS worth a man's life? Should a rapist die because of ten minutes of bad sex? Ferguson burn over a handful of stolen cigars?

In black neighborhoods, you should do nothing at all in response to anything. This just shows a decent respect for the desires of the population, who do not like white cops, or any cops. (Chanting "What do we want? Dead cops", would seem indicative.) Find a good bar or doughnut shop. Stay in it.

In mixed regions, arrest only middle-class whites over forty-five to avoid profiling. As for the neighborhoods of rich white liberals, they do not need police because they live in gated communities, so you probably will never be assigned there.

It is simple democracy. In regions that are almost entirely diverse, people do not want to be policed. It is unmistakable. Why force outside cops on them? It leads to chaos, arson, and armored shoe-stores. Should they not be allowed to police themselves as they choose, to the extent they choose, as towns once did? Live and let live. It is the American way.

[#20 Murray_Rothbard]

#2 El texto en sí ya me ha hecho reírme lo suyo, pero esta parte incluso más:

"if you see a drug dealer on the corner peddling rock, what should you do? Nothing. Doing nothing protects you, protects the dealer, and keeps the locals from burning the neighborhood. As a police officer, it is your duty to protect". . Este sarcasmo en concreto es buenísimo.

Y la última frase: "Live and let live. It is the American way".

[#21 Desactivado]

#20 Si, las columnas de este tipo suelen desprender sarcasmo a raudales. Una pena que no sea más conocido, porque tiene perlas de estas para aburrir.

[#22 Murray_Rothbard]

#21 Pues de hecho yo me he enterado de su existencia por ti.

[#23 Desactivado]

#22 Tiene algunas columnas muy buenas. Otras veces se le va la pinza. Pero cuando está inspirado, el cabrón tiene momentos brillantes.

[#4 noexisto]

Video con los disparos vía@internick Vídeo: Disparos en Ferguson

Vídeo: Disparos en Ferguson

[#6 Desactivado]

#4 Creo que te has confundido de nick, no es lo mismo@internick que@ultimonick

[#14 Desactivado]

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[#3 kumo]

Quien a hierro mata...

[#5 noexisto]

#3 veo tu lógica: unos policías matan, disparemos a cualquier poli. Justicia!

Vista tu lógica, la subo: un conductor atropella a otro (cualquiera con carnet nos sirve para condenarlo)

Es eso o me he perdido algo?

[#7 kumo]

#5 Hombre, te has perdido bastante. Básicamente varios meses de protestas y disturbios en Ferguson que han desembocado en varios tiroteos a raiz de que un policía matase a un joven y luego salier absuelto. Si además, cuando se producen protestas tus medidas represivas son aún peores y enturbian más la situación, pues luego no puedes ir a quejarte de pegarle palos a un avispero y que te piquen las avispas.

Resumiendo, de aquellos lodos, estos barros. Y que si permites que tus agentes hagan lo que les salga del gorro y encima los disculpas, pues luego no te quejes si la gente está hasta los huevos y pierde la cabeza. Aunque como siempre en estas cosas, hay cafres que aprovechan la situación y la joden aún más.

Cuando la policía en vez de ganarse el respeto se hace temer, acaban ocurriendo estas mierdas.

[#8 noexisto]

#7 nadie niega eso, pero estás creando un nexo de causalidad por los disparos fuera de lugar. Imagino que no todos los polocias serán unos hdlgp y alguno querrá verdadera justicia

[#15 InDubio]

#8 El nexo de causalidad existe. Otra cosa es que sea justificable (que no lo es).

[#16 noexisto]

#15 hablo de un nexo de causalidad JUSTIFICATIVO. Lo del efecto mariposa se lo dejamos a las pelis que queda estupendamente

#13 el corporativismo (si haces referencia a ese comentario) qué significa? Mataron a uno de los mios/mato a uno de los tuyos? O lo estas entendiendo al revés o vienes a provocar

[#17 InDubio]

#16 Si para ti el asesinato de un joven sin razón alguna, todos los precedentes de racismo, y la exculpacion del policía son intrascendentes como "el vuelo de una mariposa"...

[#18 noexisto]

#17 a ver si sabes leer de qué habla la gente: la noticia y yo hablamos de los disparos a la policia. Si tu a eso le ves un nexo causal justificativo a los de los chavales te respondo lo mismo que está escrito en #5

Si, por otra parte, quieres bronca búscate a otro: mnm está lleno

[#19 Desactivado]

#7 Lo curioso es que la mayor parte de los crímenes interraciales son de negros contra blancos, pero eso no lo consideran crimenes por raza.

[#13 Desactivado]

#5 ¿Sabes lo que es el corporativismo y tal...?

[#12 voromir]

Traducciones mierder: "rifles de gran poder"
Como el Cristo, no?

[#1 Desactivado]

Me alegro