Con el apoyo de Pedro Sánchez, el presidente francés expone su apuesta para la gestión de las llegadas de migrantes a las costas del sur de EuropaEn estos centros se tratarían los expedientes de los demandantes de asilo o se tramitaría su devolución a los países de origen
A la extrema derecha hay que decirle todo y cada cosa por su nombre, la apología del racismo y la xenofóbia, inventarse datos, como que los 220 muertos de hoy frente a las costas libias eran todos inmigrantes exonómicos de clase media, y demás gilipolleces son intolerables.
Pero Macron sabe perfectamente qué pasa en lugares como Mali y me temo que en este asunto Sanchez ha venido sólo a aparentar.
La extrema derecha boicoteará todo lo posible el tratado de Dublin, aunque esto conlleve poner en juego la vida de cientos de miles de personas, que para ellos son subhumanos. No se puede oponer a esto, esta mierda de postureo y parches llamando a centros de desembarco lo que senores seamos claros, será un centro de concentración de inmigrantes para calmar el picor que produce en la fina piel de personas sin alma el verlos llegar a su ciudad o pasearse por sus calles.
#10 la gente que menos paga impuestos son aquellos que no llegan a fin de mes porque su salario está muy por debajo del tramo para empezar a pagar más impuestos, en otras palabras no tienen ni media mierda. Ignoro si esos son los más generosos, pero supongo que tú tienes datos ordenados y publicados para demostrarlo. Como supongo que poseeras las últimas 15 declaraciones de la renta de Pablo Iglesias.
– Nationals of West and Central African countries come mainly from Nigeria, Guinea, Côte d’Ivoire, The
Gambia, Senegal, Ghana, Mali and Cameroon. Most of them report having left for economic reasons.
They are young and vulnerable to ill-treatment.
– Nationals of East African countries (Eritrea, Somalia, Ethiopia and Sudan),3 report having left their countries of origin because of political persecution, conflict and economic distress. They tend to transit quickly through Libya on their way to Europe.
– Nationals from outside Africa usually originate from non-neighbouring Arab countries. They are often fleeing conflict and are more prone to travel as family units. They tend to be skilled and have a higher level of education. Syrians, Palestinians and Iraqis form the bulk of respondents from this group.
#13 Interesante. Otro extracto del informe para leer rápido:
Reported pull factors attracting people on the CMR (Central Mediterranean Route) to Europe included stability and freedom, and the promise of a better life, with greater economic opportunities and employment prospects.
Stability, rule of law and religious and political freedom were factors highlighted by those coming from conflict-affected regions, areas suffering from terrorism or communities specifically targeted for ethnical, political or religious reasons. These pull factors to Europe became increasingly relevant with the intensification of the crisis in Libya and the resulting instability and insecurity.
The dream of a better life in Europe, largely peddled by the diaspora, plays a decisive role in in the decision-making process of those on the move, particularly the youth. Diaspora members often encourage friends and relatives to follow their path by emphasising their success rather than detailing the difficulties and risks they encountered. In many cases, they feel compelled to embellish the reality of their experience in Europe to meet the expectations of their family and community who have sometimes contributed financially to the cost of the journey.
Respondents explained that everyone had a story about an acquaintance who went to Europe and made enough money there to build large houses for their family back home. As a 40-year-old Eritrean refugee100 put it: “Diaspora members are responsible for pulling youth out of Eritrea as they share stories of material assistance and benefits given to refugees, freedom of movement, freedom of work and other advantages granted upon arrival. They tend to give a better picture than the actual reality of their situation.”
The presence of these diaspora communities and/or relatives in Europe is in itself a pull factor since they support newcomers.
This allure of Europe and the clarion call of a safer, better life underscores why, despite the reports of people drowning or being mistreated or murdered, refugees and migrants still attempt the journey. Many of them explained it as a need to “try their luck” and a belief that it would be different for them, that it was somehow in their destiny to reach Europe. For this reason, many along Western routes refer to the journey to Europe via Libya as “going on an adventure” ("partir à l'aventure").
Prospects of employment and higher salaries and the possibility of sending money home were other pull factors. A number of the young men on Western routes hope to become professional football players, while women are often told that they will get jobs as hairdressers or models.
#7 Pues riete, aqui en Bilbao recuerdo que hubo un piso que como no controlan el numero de personas que estaban empadronadas en el, llego a saberse que tuvo mas de 3000 inmigrantes empadronados en un piso de 3 habitaciones y unos 60 m2
Lo que me jode es que está gente, que teóricamente son los mejores, no hayan aprendido nada y quieran repetir (a escala infinita) la experiencia de la jungla de Calais
Comentarios
La solución de Pedro: Guantánamo
#2. No, parece más bien una Varsovia.
El camino hacia el infierno está empedrado de buenistas intenciones.
#2 La tuya: mentir.
Un parche.
A la extrema derecha hay que decirle todo y cada cosa por su nombre, la apología del racismo y la xenofóbia, inventarse datos, como que los 220 muertos de hoy frente a las costas libias eran todos inmigrantes exonómicos de clase media, y demás gilipolleces son intolerables.
Pero Macron sabe perfectamente qué pasa en lugares como Mali y me temo que en este asunto Sanchez ha venido sólo a aparentar.
La extrema derecha boicoteará todo lo posible el tratado de Dublin, aunque esto conlleve poner en juego la vida de cientos de miles de personas, que para ellos son subhumanos. No se puede oponer a esto, esta mierda de postureo y parches llamando a centros de desembarco lo que senores seamos claros, será un centro de concentración de inmigrantes para calmar el picor que produce en la fina piel de personas sin alma el verlos llegar a su ciudad o pasearse por sus calles.
#6 llévatelos a todos a tu piso patera
#7 cuando tú metas a Franco y a toda su parentela en tu salón... desde donde pretendes trolearme
#8 es curioso que la gente que menos paga impuestos son los más generosos ...con el dinero de los que sí pagamos impuestos.
Por eso, ves a niñatos que no han cotizado en su puta vida por un trabajo de verdad como Pablo Iglesias pidiendo el papeles para todos
Pero no veo que ofrezca su chalet de 600.000 euros para meterlos
#10 la gente que menos paga impuestos son aquellos que no llegan a fin de mes porque su salario está muy por debajo del tramo para empezar a pagar más impuestos, en otras palabras no tienen ni media mierda. Ignoro si esos son los más generosos, pero supongo que tú tienes datos ordenados y publicados para demostrarlo. Como supongo que poseeras las últimas 15 declaraciones de la renta de Pablo Iglesias.
#10. Con tu sueldico de professor, tampoco podrás tirarte el pegote de gran contribuyente neto...
¿Muchas propiedades, herencias?
#6 #7 Da igual. Según él, la ONU es una fuente nazi, y los demás tenemos una agenda de extrema derecha.
Artículo fácil, 7 de cada 10 son inmigrantes, no refugiados políticos.
https://www.express.co.uk/news/world/824794/migrant-crisis-refugee-Italy-Libya-UN-figures-Mediterranean-boat-crossing/amp
ONU:
http://www.altaiconsulting.com/insights/mixed-migration-trends-libya-changing-dynamics-protection-challenges/
Un extracto:
– Nationals of West and Central African countries come mainly from Nigeria, Guinea, Côte d’Ivoire, The
Gambia, Senegal, Ghana, Mali and Cameroon. Most of them report having left for economic reasons.
They are young and vulnerable to ill-treatment.
– Nationals of East African countries (Eritrea, Somalia, Ethiopia and Sudan),3 report having left their countries of origin because of political persecution, conflict and economic distress. They tend to transit quickly through Libya on their way to Europe.
– Nationals from outside Africa usually originate from non-neighbouring Arab countries. They are often fleeing conflict and are more prone to travel as family units. They tend to be skilled and have a higher level of education. Syrians, Palestinians and Iraqis form the bulk of respondents from this group.
De todos modos, es muy complejo conseguir datos fiables de estos flujos:
https://www.nature.com/news/migration-tracking-is-a-mess-1.21542
#13 Interesante. Otro extracto del informe para leer rápido:
Reported pull factors attracting people on the CMR (Central Mediterranean Route) to Europe included stability and freedom, and the promise of a better life, with greater economic opportunities and employment prospects.
Stability, rule of law and religious and political freedom were factors highlighted by those coming from conflict-affected regions, areas suffering from terrorism or communities specifically targeted for ethnical, political or religious reasons. These pull factors to Europe became increasingly relevant with the intensification of the crisis in Libya and the resulting instability and insecurity.
The dream of a better life in Europe, largely peddled by the diaspora, plays a decisive role in in the decision-making process of those on the move, particularly the youth. Diaspora members often encourage friends and relatives to follow their path by emphasising their success rather than detailing the difficulties and risks they encountered. In many cases, they feel compelled to embellish the reality of their experience in Europe to meet the expectations of their family and community who have sometimes contributed financially to the cost of the journey.
Respondents explained that everyone had a story about an acquaintance who went to Europe and made enough money there to build large houses for their family back home. As a 40-year-old Eritrean refugee100 put it: “Diaspora members are responsible for pulling youth out of Eritrea as they share stories of material assistance and benefits given to refugees, freedom of movement, freedom of work and other advantages granted upon arrival. They tend to give a better picture than the actual reality of their situation.”
The presence of these diaspora communities and/or relatives in Europe is in itself a pull factor since they support newcomers.
This allure of Europe and the clarion call of a safer, better life underscores why, despite the reports of people drowning or being mistreated or murdered, refugees and migrants still attempt the journey. Many of them explained it as a need to “try their luck” and a belief that it would be different for them, that it was somehow in their destiny to reach Europe. For this reason, many along Western routes refer to the journey to Europe via Libya as “going on an adventure” ("partir à l'aventure").
Prospects of employment and higher salaries and the possibility of sending money home were other pull factors. A number of the young men on Western routes hope to become professional football players, while women are often told that they will get jobs as hairdressers or models.
#7 Pues riete, aqui en Bilbao recuerdo que hubo un piso que como no controlan el numero de personas que estaban empadronadas en el, llego a saberse que tuvo mas de 3000 inmigrantes empadronados en un piso de 3 habitaciones y unos 60 m2
Pedro eso ya existe, se llaman CIE
#4 No hombre, un CIE es cerrado, yo creo que Pedro propone coger algo como el Algarrobico o Marina D'Or y aprovecharlo.
#9 Mucho mejor sería un crucero como el de Piolín.
#15
Cierto, negritos y musulmanes bienvenidos, españoles no que cuesta más inculcarles el 'sentimiento catalanista'...
¿Algo así?
#1 Pero en vez en Miami, en Murcia.
#1 Qué gran peli.
Vale, pero en nuestro aliado Marruecos.
A lo de solventar (y no enmierdar) en origen si ya tal.
El Black ese es otro progre charlando en internet y en pijama desde su casa. Bla,bla, bla, bla
Lo que me jode es que está gente, que teóricamente son los mejores, no hayan aprendido nada y quieran repetir (a escala infinita) la experiencia de la jungla de Calais