Menéame: comentarios [975248] http://www.meneame.net www.meneame.nethttp://www.meneame.nethttp://cdn.mnmstatic.net/img/mnm/eli-rss.png Sitio colaborativo de publicación y comunicación entre blogs Wed, 09 Jun 2010 19:22:14 +0000 http://blog.meneame.net/ es 6445659 975248 20 --43631-- 1 24 https://www.meneame.net/story/the-new-york-times-vincula-real-madrid-franco-roja-zapatero #20 The New York Times vincula al Real Madrid de Franco con la roja de Zapatero https://www.meneame.net/story/the-new-york-times-vincula-real-madrid-franco-roja-zapatero/c020#c-20 Wed, 09 Jun 2010 19:22:14 +0000 --43631-- https://www.meneame.net/story/the-new-york-times-vincula-real-madrid-franco-roja-zapatero/c020#c-20 #18 Tu como siempre inventando:

Falso:

"Nowadays, José Luis Rodríguez Zapatero, the prime minister of Spain, is having a hard time satisfying the public’s economic demands as he struggles to reduce a mountain of debt and unemployment that has soared to 20 percent.

So he is putting his hopes in the World Cup that begins in South Africa this week, where Spain is one of the two favorites to win"

Para sostener esto, cita a Jordi Sevilla (ex-Ministro con Zapatero), a Sandalio Gomez (IESE) y a varios medios españoles incluido ABC:

"“There is a lot of eagerness to get out of this crisis and the government would want to emphasize anything that is good news, so a good World Cup is certainly _important,”_ said Jordi Sevilla, one of Mr Zapatero’s former ministers"

"When Mr. Zapatero recently announced that he would present a controversial plan to overhaul labor rules on June 16, the headlines of ABC and some other national newspapers focused on the fact that Mr. Zapatero’s presentation of economic overhauls would coincide with Spain’s opening World Cup match against Switzerland"

"“Football has probably been used by politicians here more than in most other countries to cover other problems and I think politicians are continuing to do that,” said Sandalio Gómez, the director in Madrid of the center for sport business management at IESE, a leading business school. “The government will use this World Cup to get some breathing room in this very difficult situation.” And given how passionate Spaniards are about the game, it could well succeed. “However bad the economy,” he said, “football remains above this crisis.”"

Como siempre, iramosjan barriendo para casa (para la casa del Gobierno del PSOE).

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]]> 6441543 975248 19 --87795-- 0 9 https://www.meneame.net/story/the-new-york-times-vincula-real-madrid-franco-roja-zapatero #19 The New York Times vincula al Real Madrid de Franco con la roja de Zapatero https://www.meneame.net/story/the-new-york-times-vincula-real-madrid-franco-roja-zapatero/c019#c-19 Wed, 09 Jun 2010 10:29:35 +0000 --87795-- https://www.meneame.net/story/the-new-york-times-vincula-real-madrid-franco-roja-zapatero/c019#c-19 [Usuario deshabilitado]

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]]> 6439768 975248 18 iramosjan 0 10 https://www.meneame.net/story/the-new-york-times-vincula-real-madrid-franco-roja-zapatero #18 The New York Times vincula al Real Madrid de Franco con la roja de Zapatero https://www.meneame.net/story/the-new-york-times-vincula-real-madrid-franco-roja-zapatero/c018#c-18 Wed, 09 Jun 2010 06:29:36 +0000 iramosjan https://www.meneame.net/story/the-new-york-times-vincula-real-madrid-franco-roja-zapatero/c018#c-18 No sé si llamarla duplicada... al menos 'Publico' da un enlace a la noticia original, cosa que 'El Mundo' no hace jamás (debe estar en el libro de mal estilo de la redacción)

www.nytimes.com/2010/06/08/sports/soccer/08iht-spain.html?scp=2&sq

Y como puede verse el NYT NO dice en ninguna parte que Zapatero esté actuando como Franco hizo con el Real Madrid. Si dice (y con mucha razón) que si España ganara el mundial sería un alivio para el gobierno, pero eso no es lo mismo.

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]]> 6438347 975248 17 --117328-- 0 7 https://www.meneame.net/story/the-new-york-times-vincula-real-madrid-franco-roja-zapatero #17 The New York Times vincula al Real Madrid de Franco con la roja de Zapatero https://www.meneame.net/story/the-new-york-times-vincula-real-madrid-franco-roja-zapatero/c017#c-17 Tue, 08 Jun 2010 20:31:09 +0000 --117328-- https://www.meneame.net/story/the-new-york-times-vincula-real-madrid-franco-roja-zapatero/c017#c-17 #8 hay mucho "españolito" que pagaría 100 euros para que la selección perdiera ... y 150 para que no pasara la primera ronda!.

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]]> 6438327 975248 16 --155529-- 0 7 https://www.meneame.net/story/the-new-york-times-vincula-real-madrid-franco-roja-zapatero #16 The New York Times vincula al Real Madrid de Franco con la roja de Zapatero https://www.meneame.net/story/the-new-york-times-vincula-real-madrid-franco-roja-zapatero/c016#c-16 Tue, 08 Jun 2010 20:25:24 +0000 --155529-- https://www.meneame.net/story/the-new-york-times-vincula-real-madrid-franco-roja-zapatero/c016#c-16 Además, es sensacionalista.

Hacer una comparación de como se ha usado el futbol para desviar la atención de la política nunca puede ser equivalente a "vincular".

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]]> 6438312 975248 15 --324-- 1 31 https://www.meneame.net/story/the-new-york-times-vincula-real-madrid-franco-roja-zapatero #15 The New York Times vincula al Real Madrid de Franco con la roja de Zapatero https://www.meneame.net/story/the-new-york-times-vincula-real-madrid-franco-roja-zapatero/c015#c-15 Tue, 08 Jun 2010 20:22:52 +0000 --324-- https://www.meneame.net/story/the-new-york-times-vincula-real-madrid-franco-roja-zapatero/c015#c-15 Como dice #7 es duplicada: www.meneame.net/story/pan-circo-zapatero-segun-the-new-york-times

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]]> 6438273 975248 14 pablogfdez 0 7 https://www.meneame.net/story/the-new-york-times-vincula-real-madrid-franco-roja-zapatero #14 The New York Times vincula al Real Madrid de Franco con la roja de Zapatero https://www.meneame.net/story/the-new-york-times-vincula-real-madrid-franco-roja-zapatero/c014#c-14 Tue, 08 Jun 2010 20:15:34 +0000 pablogfdez https://www.meneame.net/story/the-new-york-times-vincula-real-madrid-franco-roja-zapatero/c014#c-14 como era akello de la viga y la paja?... a ver si lo recuerdo...
ah si:
www.meneame.net/story/obama-fue-avisado-antes-asalto-israelies-flotill
www.meneame.net/story/medicos-ayudaron-cia-tecnica-tortura-perfecta-en
www.meneame.net/story/deuda-eeuu-llega-primera-vez-13-billones-dolares

Zasss!! en toda la boca...

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]]> 6438253 975248 13 raoulduke 3 44 https://www.meneame.net/story/the-new-york-times-vincula-real-madrid-franco-roja-zapatero #13 The New York Times vincula al Real Madrid de Franco con la roja de Zapatero https://www.meneame.net/story/the-new-york-times-vincula-real-madrid-franco-roja-zapatero/c013#c-13 Tue, 08 Jun 2010 20:12:44 +0000 raoulduke https://www.meneame.net/story/the-new-york-times-vincula-real-madrid-franco-roja-zapatero/c013#c-13 Que en este santo país el nacionalismo deportivo se usa con fines políticos de distracción es una cosa evidente. No hace falta que vengan de Nueva York a decírnoslo.

Por cierto que aprovecho para decir que con la compra del ABC te regalan una banderita una constitución con encuadernación de lujo para que pongas encima de la tv y una foto del rey tamaño natural. Todo ello con la aprobación de una foto de Nadal vicorioso de fondo.

Compra ABC!!

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]]> 6438251 975248 12 matacca 1 23 https://www.meneame.net/story/the-new-york-times-vincula-real-madrid-franco-roja-zapatero #12 The New York Times vincula al Real Madrid de Franco con la roja de Zapatero https://www.meneame.net/story/the-new-york-times-vincula-real-madrid-franco-roja-zapatero/c012#c-12 Tue, 08 Jun 2010 20:12:28 +0000 matacca https://www.meneame.net/story/the-new-york-times-vincula-real-madrid-franco-roja-zapatero/c012#c-12 Madre mía, ya hasta The New York Times nos da como ganadores del mundial...

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]]> 6438246 975248 11 hat100 1 22 https://www.meneame.net/story/the-new-york-times-vincula-real-madrid-franco-roja-zapatero #11 The New York Times vincula al Real Madrid de Franco con la roja de Zapatero https://www.meneame.net/story/the-new-york-times-vincula-real-madrid-franco-roja-zapatero/c011#c-11 Tue, 08 Jun 2010 20:11:21 +0000 hat100 https://www.meneame.net/story/the-new-york-times-vincula-real-madrid-franco-roja-zapatero/c011#c-11 Lo del tema del mundial no creo que me haga olvidar que continuo en el paro

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]]> 6438244 975248 10 --171742-- 7 80 https://www.meneame.net/story/the-new-york-times-vincula-real-madrid-franco-roja-zapatero #10 The New York Times vincula al Real Madrid de Franco con la roja de Zapatero https://www.meneame.net/story/the-new-york-times-vincula-real-madrid-franco-roja-zapatero/c010#c-10 Tue, 08 Jun 2010 20:11:07 +0000 --171742-- https://www.meneame.net/story/the-new-york-times-vincula-real-madrid-franco-roja-zapatero/c010#c-10 [Usuario deshabilitado]

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]]> 6438242 975248 9 vettoncharro 0 7 https://www.meneame.net/story/the-new-york-times-vincula-real-madrid-franco-roja-zapatero #9 The New York Times vincula al Real Madrid de Franco con la roja de Zapatero https://www.meneame.net/story/the-new-york-times-vincula-real-madrid-franco-roja-zapatero/c09#c-9 Tue, 08 Jun 2010 20:10:24 +0000 vettoncharro https://www.meneame.net/story/the-new-york-times-vincula-real-madrid-franco-roja-zapatero/c09#c-9 Pués entonces ban a ganar muchos títulos.

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]]> 6438239 975248 8 --130398-- 1 21 https://www.meneame.net/story/the-new-york-times-vincula-real-madrid-franco-roja-zapatero #8 The New York Times vincula al Real Madrid de Franco con la roja de Zapatero https://www.meneame.net/story/the-new-york-times-vincula-real-madrid-franco-roja-zapatero/c08#c-8 Tue, 08 Jun 2010 20:09:50 +0000 --130398-- https://www.meneame.net/story/the-new-york-times-vincula-real-madrid-franco-roja-zapatero/c08#c-8 [Usuario deshabilitado]

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]]> 6438238 975248 7 Meneador_Compulsivo 3 54 https://www.meneame.net/story/the-new-york-times-vincula-real-madrid-franco-roja-zapatero #7 The New York Times vincula al Real Madrid de Franco con la roja de Zapatero https://www.meneame.net/story/the-new-york-times-vincula-real-madrid-franco-roja-zapatero/c07#c-7 Tue, 08 Jun 2010 20:09:46 +0000 Meneador_Compulsivo https://www.meneame.net/story/the-new-york-times-vincula-real-madrid-franco-roja-zapatero/c07#c-7 www.meneame.net/story/pan-circo-zapatero-segun-the-new-york-times

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]]> 6438234 975248 6 eixampop 6 66 https://www.meneame.net/story/the-new-york-times-vincula-real-madrid-franco-roja-zapatero #6 The New York Times vincula al Real Madrid de Franco con la roja de Zapatero https://www.meneame.net/story/the-new-york-times-vincula-real-madrid-franco-roja-zapatero/c06#c-6 Tue, 08 Jun 2010 20:09:17 +0000 eixampop https://www.meneame.net/story/the-new-york-times-vincula-real-madrid-franco-roja-zapatero/c06#c-6 Que pronto se han olvidado ellos de que la crisis comenzó por su país.

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]]> 6438228 975248 5 --138914-- 0 10 https://www.meneame.net/story/the-new-york-times-vincula-real-madrid-franco-roja-zapatero #5 The New York Times vincula al Real Madrid de Franco con la roja de Zapatero https://www.meneame.net/story/the-new-york-times-vincula-real-madrid-franco-roja-zapatero/c05#c-5 Tue, 08 Jun 2010 20:08:16 +0000 --138914-- https://www.meneame.net/story/the-new-york-times-vincula-real-madrid-franco-roja-zapatero/c05#c-5 [Usuario deshabilitado]

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]]> 6438226 975248 4 stygyan 4 30 https://www.meneame.net/story/the-new-york-times-vincula-real-madrid-franco-roja-zapatero #4 The New York Times vincula al Real Madrid de Franco con la roja de Zapatero https://www.meneame.net/story/the-new-york-times-vincula-real-madrid-franco-roja-zapatero/c04#c-4 Tue, 08 Jun 2010 20:07:40 +0000 stygyan https://www.meneame.net/story/the-new-york-times-vincula-real-madrid-franco-roja-zapatero/c04#c-4 Joder, pero esto no es nada nuevo. El fútbol es el opio para las masas, igual que antes lo era la religión. La gente va a dejar de hablar de crisis por hablar del golondrino que le salió a Cristiano Ronaldo en el coño.

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]]> 6438225 975248 3 --171742-- 3 17 https://www.meneame.net/story/the-new-york-times-vincula-real-madrid-franco-roja-zapatero #3 The New York Times vincula al Real Madrid de Franco con la roja de Zapatero https://www.meneame.net/story/the-new-york-times-vincula-real-madrid-franco-roja-zapatero/c03#c-3 Tue, 08 Jun 2010 20:07:35 +0000 --171742-- https://www.meneame.net/story/the-new-york-times-vincula-real-madrid-franco-roja-zapatero/c03#c-3 [Usuario deshabilitado]

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]]> 6438224 975248 2 --154233-- 5 60 https://www.meneame.net/story/the-new-york-times-vincula-real-madrid-franco-roja-zapatero #2 The New York Times vincula al Real Madrid de Franco con la roja de Zapatero https://www.meneame.net/story/the-new-york-times-vincula-real-madrid-franco-roja-zapatero/c02#c-2 Tue, 08 Jun 2010 20:07:30 +0000 --154233-- https://www.meneame.net/story/the-new-york-times-vincula-real-madrid-franco-roja-zapatero/c02#c-2 Joder ... el clásico "pan y circo" llevado a sus últimas consecuencias xD xD xD

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]]> 6438222 975248 1 Cidraque 3 33 https://www.meneame.net/story/the-new-york-times-vincula-real-madrid-franco-roja-zapatero #1 The New York Times vincula al Real Madrid de Franco con la roja de Zapatero https://www.meneame.net/story/the-new-york-times-vincula-real-madrid-franco-roja-zapatero/c01#c-1 Tue, 08 Jun 2010 20:05:58 +0000 Cidraque https://www.meneame.net/story/the-new-york-times-vincula-real-madrid-franco-roja-zapatero/c01#c-1 En mi pueblo se llama envidia cochina
muahahah xD

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