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		<title>#50 Cómo terminó la democracia [ENG]</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 26 May 2018 12:17:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[<p><a class="tooltip c:2953114-35" href="https://www.meneame.net/story/como-termino-democracia-eng-opinion/c035#c-35" rel="nofollow">#35</a> La Grecia clásica no tenía Acceso a Internet, y los habitantes de la URSS tampoco, entre otras cosas porque los burócratas temieron quedar anulados por el.  <br />
<br />
<a href="https://www.meneame.net/story/union-sovietica-fracaso-intento-crear-internet-comunista" title="www.meneame.net/story/union-sovietica-fracaso-intento-crear-internet-comunista" rel="nofollow">www.meneame.net/story/union-sovietica-fracaso-intento-crear-internet-c</a><br />
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<a class="tooltip c:2953114-32" href="https://www.meneame.net/story/como-termino-democracia-eng-opinion/c032#c-32" rel="nofollow">#32</a> Mucho más sencillo, asambleas virtuales. <br />
<br />
En cualquier caso, tampoco hay que depender de las asambleas, en Suiza tienen algo bastante más digno de ser llamado democracia que lo que hay en el resto del mundo, sólo hay que darles carácter imperativo a las Iniciativas Legislativas Populares.</p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>Autarca</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<meneame:comment_id>24402973</meneame:comment_id>
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		<title>#49 Cómo terminó la democracia [ENG]</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 21 May 2018 00:12:13 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>capitan__nemo</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[<p>Los principios del gobierno representativo. Bernard Manin (1995)<br />
 <a href="http://lavraiedemocratie.fr/IMG/pdf/bernard_manin_-_los_principios_del_gobierno_representativo.pdf" title="lavraiedemocratie.fr/IMG/pdf/bernard_manin_-_los_principios_del_gobierno_representativo.pdf" rel="nofollow">lavraiedemocratie.fr/IMG/pdf/bernard_manin_-_los_principios_del_gobier</a></p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>capitan__nemo</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<meneame:comment_id>24402697</meneame:comment_id>
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		<meneame:order>48</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>Cristina_Mexias_Canaan</meneame:user>
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		<title>#48 Cómo terminó la democracia [ENG]</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/como-termino-democracia-eng-opinion/c048#c-48</link>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 May 2018 22:25:28 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Cristina_Mexias_Canaan</dc:creator>
		<guid>https://www.meneame.net/story/como-termino-democracia-eng-opinion/c048#c-48</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[<p><a class="tooltip c:2953114-45" href="https://www.meneame.net/story/como-termino-democracia-eng-opinion/c045#c-45" rel="nofollow">#45</a> Lo siento. No te puedo ni votar positivo. Bye</p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>Cristina_Mexias_Canaan</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<meneame:comment_id>24402690</meneame:comment_id>
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		<title>#47 Cómo terminó la democracia [ENG]</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/como-termino-democracia-eng-opinion/c047#c-47</link>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 May 2018 22:24:26 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Cristina_Mexias_Canaan</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[<p><a class="tooltip c:2953114-45" href="https://www.meneame.net/story/como-termino-democracia-eng-opinion/c045#c-45" rel="nofollow">#45</a> Te doy un positivo para que levantes karma pero no creo que mi karma sea un problema... De siete he caído a cuatro con algo de un día para otro. Y sigo sin saber mi pecado. Nadie ha dado la cara.</p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>Cristina_Mexias_Canaan</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<meneame:comment_id>24402664</meneame:comment_id>
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		<meneame:order>46</meneame:order>
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		<title>#46 Cómo terminó la democracia [ENG]</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 20 May 2018 22:20:27 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Cristina_Mexias_Canaan</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[<p><a class="tooltip c:2953114-45" href="https://www.meneame.net/story/como-termino-democracia-eng-opinion/c045#c-45" rel="nofollow">#45</a> So, let us call the whole thing off.<br />
Vamos a dejarlo. No creas que quiero pelearme contra el mundo pero nunca me ha gustado que me manden a callar. <br />
No nos vamos a entender pero tampoco hace falta desgastarse en un debate estéril. <br />
Para cualquier acto de comunicación se necesita emisor, código y receptor. Si algo falla... Nos queda la ley de Murphy.</p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>Cristina_Mexias_Canaan</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<meneame:comment_id>24402627</meneame:comment_id>
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		<title>#45 Cómo terminó la democracia [ENG]</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/como-termino-democracia-eng-opinion/c045#c-45</link>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 May 2018 22:14:19 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>--430760--</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[<p><a class="tooltip c:2953114-42" href="https://www.meneame.net/story/como-termino-democracia-eng-opinion/c042#c-42" rel="nofollow">#42</a> Con mi karma no te hago ni cosquillas, no te preocupes. Esto ya es absurdo. Si estás trolleando mejor no contestarte, si no lo estás es obvio que tienes un mundo interior muy distinto al mío y no vamos a entendernos.</p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>--430760--</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<meneame:comment_id>24402617</meneame:comment_id>
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		<meneame:order>44</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>Cristina_Mexias_Canaan</meneame:user>
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		<title>#44 Cómo terminó la democracia [ENG]</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/como-termino-democracia-eng-opinion/c044#c-44</link>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 May 2018 22:12:31 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Cristina_Mexias_Canaan</dc:creator>
		<guid>https://www.meneame.net/story/como-termino-democracia-eng-opinion/c044#c-44</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[<p><a class="tooltip c:2953114-24" href="https://www.meneame.net/story/como-termino-democracia-eng-opinion/c024#c-24" rel="nofollow">#24</a> Bueno, no con mucha calidad.</p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>Cristina_Mexias_Canaan</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<meneame:comment_id>24402606</meneame:comment_id>
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		<meneame:order>43</meneame:order>
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		<title>#43 Cómo terminó la democracia [ENG]</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/como-termino-democracia-eng-opinion/c043#c-43</link>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 May 2018 22:10:38 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Cristina_Mexias_Canaan</dc:creator>
		<guid>https://www.meneame.net/story/como-termino-democracia-eng-opinion/c043#c-43</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[<p><a class="tooltip c:2953114-41" href="https://www.meneame.net/story/como-termino-democracia-eng-opinion/c041#c-41" rel="nofollow">#41</a> Si tu lo dices... <img data-src="https://cdn.mnmstatic.net/v_149/img/menemojis/36/grin.png" alt=":-D" title=":-D" width="18" height="18" src="https://cdn.mnmstatic.net/v_149/img/g.gif" class="emoji lazy" /></p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>Cristina_Mexias_Canaan</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<meneame:comment_id>24402603</meneame:comment_id>
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		<meneame:order>42</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>Cristina_Mexias_Canaan</meneame:user>
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		<meneame:karma>6</meneame:karma>
		<meneame:url>https://www.meneame.net/story/como-termino-democracia-eng-opinion</meneame:url>
		<title>#42 Cómo terminó la democracia [ENG]</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/como-termino-democracia-eng-opinion/c042#c-42</link>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 May 2018 22:09:30 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Cristina_Mexias_Canaan</dc:creator>
		<guid>https://www.meneame.net/story/como-termino-democracia-eng-opinion/c042#c-42</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[<p><a class="tooltip c:2953114-40" href="https://www.meneame.net/story/como-termino-democracia-eng-opinion/c040#c-40" rel="nofollow">#40</a> ¿Te he insultado?<br />
Lo que dices suena a amenaza.</p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>Cristina_Mexias_Canaan</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<meneame:comment_id>24402601</meneame:comment_id>
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		<meneame:order>41</meneame:order>
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		<title>#41 Cómo terminó la democracia [ENG]</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/como-termino-democracia-eng-opinion/c041#c-41</link>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 May 2018 22:09:25 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>--430760--</dc:creator>
		<guid>https://www.meneame.net/story/como-termino-democracia-eng-opinion/c041#c-41</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[<p><a class="tooltip c:2953114-39" href="https://www.meneame.net/story/como-termino-democracia-eng-opinion/c039#c-39" rel="nofollow">#39</a> Se dice get read off, no te jode.</p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>--430760--</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<meneame:comment_id>24402581</meneame:comment_id>
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		<meneame:order>40</meneame:order>
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		<meneame:url>https://www.meneame.net/story/como-termino-democracia-eng-opinion</meneame:url>
		<title>#40 Cómo terminó la democracia [ENG]</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/como-termino-democracia-eng-opinion/c040#c-40</link>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 May 2018 22:05:53 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>--430760--</dc:creator>
		<guid>https://www.meneame.net/story/como-termino-democracia-eng-opinion/c040#c-40</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[<p><a class="tooltip c:2953114-37" href="https://www.meneame.net/story/como-termino-democracia-eng-opinion/c037#c-37" rel="nofollow">#37</a> También se dice &#34;Do not call me a dude&#34;, &#34;knowledge&#34; y &#34;El artículo no lo voy a leer&#34;. ¿Vas a aportar algo o también quieres que te baneen esta cuenta y hacerte la víctima?</p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>--430760--</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<meneame:comment_id>24402556</meneame:comment_id>
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		<meneame:order>39</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>Cristina_Mexias_Canaan</meneame:user>
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		<meneame:url>https://www.meneame.net/story/como-termino-democracia-eng-opinion</meneame:url>
		<title>#39 Cómo terminó la democracia [ENG]</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/como-termino-democracia-eng-opinion/c039#c-39</link>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 May 2018 21:59:28 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Cristina_Mexias_Canaan</dc:creator>
		<guid>https://www.meneame.net/story/como-termino-democracia-eng-opinion/c039#c-39</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[<p><a class="tooltip c:2953114-34" href="https://www.meneame.net/story/como-termino-democracia-eng-opinion/c034#c-34" rel="nofollow">#34</a> Me auto corrijo, to Get rid off, con doble F. U know what I mean...<br />
Calzadores, insultos, troleos... En cualquier hilo. Convenceras al 99%, a mí no. <img data-src="https://cdn.mnmstatic.net/v_149/img/menemojis/36/popcorn.gif" alt=":popcorn:" title=":popcorn:" width="29" height="18" src="https://cdn.mnmstatic.net/v_149/img/g.gif" class="emoji lazy" /></p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>Cristina_Mexias_Canaan</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<meneame:comment_id>24402494</meneame:comment_id>
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		<meneame:user>ramon_lopez</meneame:user>
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		<meneame:url>https://www.meneame.net/story/como-termino-democracia-eng-opinion</meneame:url>
		<title>#38 Cómo terminó la democracia [ENG]</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/como-termino-democracia-eng-opinion/c038#c-38</link>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 May 2018 21:46:54 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>ramon_lopez</dc:creator>
		<guid>https://www.meneame.net/story/como-termino-democracia-eng-opinion/c038#c-38</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[<p><a class="tooltip c:2953114-30" href="https://www.meneame.net/story/como-termino-democracia-eng-opinion/c030#c-30" rel="nofollow">#30</a> En la historia de España no ha habido ni un sólo día de democracia.</p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>ramon_lopez</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<meneame:comment_id>24402460</meneame:comment_id>
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		<meneame:order>37</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>Cristina_Mexias_Canaan</meneame:user>
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		<title>#37 Cómo terminó la democracia [ENG]</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/como-termino-democracia-eng-opinion/c037#c-37</link>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 May 2018 21:42:03 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Cristina_Mexias_Canaan</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[<p><a class="tooltip c:2953114-34" href="https://www.meneame.net/story/como-termino-democracia-eng-opinion/c034#c-34" rel="nofollow">#34</a> Se dice to get rid of trolls.</p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>Cristina_Mexias_Canaan</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<title>#36 Cómo terminó la democracia [ENG]</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 20 May 2018 21:40:31 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Cristina_Mexias_Canaan</dc:creator>
		<guid>https://www.meneame.net/story/como-termino-democracia-eng-opinion/c036#c-36</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[<p><a class="tooltip c:2953114-34" href="https://www.meneame.net/story/como-termino-democracia-eng-opinion/c034#c-34" rel="nofollow">#34</a> <img data-src="https://cdn.mnmstatic.net/v_149/img/menemojis/36/popcorn.gif" alt=":popcorn:" title=":popcorn:" width="29" height="18" src="https://cdn.mnmstatic.net/v_149/img/g.gif" class="emoji lazy" /></p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>Cristina_Mexias_Canaan</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<meneame:comment_id>24401949</meneame:comment_id>
		<meneame:link_id>2953114</meneame:link_id>
		<meneame:order>35</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>--501250--</meneame:user>
		<meneame:votes>3</meneame:votes>
		<meneame:karma>38</meneame:karma>
		<meneame:url>https://www.meneame.net/story/como-termino-democracia-eng-opinion</meneame:url>
		<title>#35 Cómo terminó la democracia [ENG]</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/como-termino-democracia-eng-opinion/c035#c-35</link>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 May 2018 20:26:42 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>--501250--</dc:creator>
		<guid>https://www.meneame.net/story/como-termino-democracia-eng-opinion/c035#c-35</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[<p><a class="tooltip c:2953114-32" href="https://www.meneame.net/story/como-termino-democracia-eng-opinion/c032#c-32" rel="nofollow">#32</a> Eso está bastante discutido en la literatura científica desde los tiempos en que se desarrolló la democracia participativa. Precisamente los ideólogos de la democracia participativa ya vieron la imposibilidad de implementar algo así en las sociedades modernas. <br />
<br />
De hecho no funcionó en Grecia, y no tengo noticias de que se haya vuelto a intentar a gran escala. Quizá algo parecido en los primeros años de la Rusia comunista, donde el partido instaba a los obreros y campesinos a crear esas estructuras. <br />
<br />
Eso solo funciona en pequeños grupos. Me suena que han habido experimentos y se dan cifras de entre 500-1000 personas. Si el número de personas aumenta la burocracia se hace imposible y toda esa estructura de asambleas tiende a colapsar con facilidad.</p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>--501250--</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<meneame:comment_id>24401915</meneame:comment_id>
		<meneame:link_id>2953114</meneame:link_id>
		<meneame:order>34</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>--430760--</meneame:user>
		<meneame:votes>0</meneame:votes>
		<meneame:karma>7</meneame:karma>
		<meneame:url>https://www.meneame.net/story/como-termino-democracia-eng-opinion</meneame:url>
		<title>#34 Cómo terminó la democracia [ENG]</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/como-termino-democracia-eng-opinion/c034#c-34</link>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 May 2018 20:23:11 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>--430760--</dc:creator>
		<guid>https://www.meneame.net/story/como-termino-democracia-eng-opinion/c034#c-34</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[<p><a class="tooltip c:2953114-28" href="https://www.meneame.net/story/como-termino-democracia-eng-opinion/c028#c-28" rel="nofollow">#28</a> Maybe I am. We need to take rid of trolls, nothing personal.<br />
No sé qué esperas llegando aquí y anunciando que no te lees la noticia y metiendo un calzador sobre la misoginia en Menéame, que aunque hay mucha y deberíamos sacarlo a la palestra, no es el sitio para hablar de ello. Desde luego que si esta es tu forma de actuar normalmente no me extrañaría el baneo ese del que hablas.</p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>--430760--</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<meneame:comment_id>24401795</meneame:comment_id>
		<meneame:link_id>2953114</meneame:link_id>
		<meneame:order>33</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>PCavero</meneame:user>
		<meneame:votes>1</meneame:votes>
		<meneame:karma>18</meneame:karma>
		<meneame:url>https://www.meneame.net/story/como-termino-democracia-eng-opinion</meneame:url>
		<title>#33 Cómo terminó la democracia [ENG]</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/como-termino-democracia-eng-opinion/c033#c-33</link>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 May 2018 20:01:51 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>PCavero</dc:creator>
		<guid>https://www.meneame.net/story/como-termino-democracia-eng-opinion/c033#c-33</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[<p>Estaba leyendo a Kipling. Cuando llega a América procediendo de la India de la corona inglesa, a finales del s.XIX (have bastante más de 100 años ya) y observa la recién instaurada 'democracia americana'. Muy a propósito. <br />
<br />
Perdón por la calidad de las imágenes.<br />
Sacado del estupendo libro 'América' en traducción y comentarios de Manuel Benítez Ariza y publicado por Pre-Textos</p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>PCavero</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<meneame:comment_id>24401708</meneame:comment_id>
		<meneame:link_id>2953114</meneame:link_id>
		<meneame:order>32</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>RoterHahn</meneame:user>
		<meneame:votes>0</meneame:votes>
		<meneame:karma>8</meneame:karma>
		<meneame:url>https://www.meneame.net/story/como-termino-democracia-eng-opinion</meneame:url>
		<title>#32 Cómo terminó la democracia [ENG]</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/como-termino-democracia-eng-opinion/c032#c-32</link>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 May 2018 19:48:51 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>RoterHahn</dc:creator>
		<guid>https://www.meneame.net/story/como-termino-democracia-eng-opinion/c032#c-32</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[<p><a class="tooltip c:2953114-23" href="https://www.meneame.net/story/como-termino-democracia-eng-opinion/c023#c-23" rel="nofollow">#23</a> Pues creando una democracia participativa de abajo a arriba.<br />
Asambleas y elecciones municipales. De ahí asambleas y elecciones para provincias y comunidades autonomas de entre los electos municipales. Y de entre estos, <br />
A elegir para elecciones  nacionales. Sin partidos politicos, como mucho asociaciones ó corrientes ideologias, para que no se permitan listas cerradas.</p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>RoterHahn</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<meneame:comment_id>24401544</meneame:comment_id>
		<meneame:link_id>2953114</meneame:link_id>
		<meneame:order>31</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>mariopg</meneame:user>
		<meneame:votes>0</meneame:votes>
		<meneame:karma>7</meneame:karma>
		<meneame:url>https://www.meneame.net/story/como-termino-democracia-eng-opinion</meneame:url>
		<title>#31 Cómo terminó la democracia [ENG]</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/como-termino-democracia-eng-opinion/c031#c-31</link>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 May 2018 19:18:39 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>mariopg</dc:creator>
		<guid>https://www.meneame.net/story/como-termino-democracia-eng-opinion/c031#c-31</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[<p>el verdadero problema es que el pueblo merece los gobernantes que tiene</p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>mariopg</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<meneame:comment_id>24401357</meneame:comment_id>
		<meneame:link_id>2953114</meneame:link_id>
		<meneame:order>30</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>UNOS3</meneame:user>
		<meneame:votes>0</meneame:votes>
		<meneame:karma>7</meneame:karma>
		<meneame:url>https://www.meneame.net/story/como-termino-democracia-eng-opinion</meneame:url>
		<title>#30 Cómo terminó la democracia [ENG]</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/como-termino-democracia-eng-opinion/c030#c-30</link>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 May 2018 18:43:02 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>UNOS3</dc:creator>
		<guid>https://www.meneame.net/story/como-termino-democracia-eng-opinion/c030#c-30</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[<p><a class="tooltip c:2953114-24" href="https://www.meneame.net/story/como-termino-democracia-eng-opinion/c024#c-24" rel="nofollow">#24</a> En España la democracia acabó cuando la destruyo Franco con un golpe de estado, una guerra y un millón de muertos</p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>UNOS3</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<meneame:comment_id>24401281</meneame:comment_id>
		<meneame:link_id>2953114</meneame:link_id>
		<meneame:order>29</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>--434871--</meneame:user>
		<meneame:votes>1</meneame:votes>
		<meneame:karma>19</meneame:karma>
		<meneame:url>https://www.meneame.net/story/como-termino-democracia-eng-opinion</meneame:url>
		<title>#29 Cómo terminó la democracia [ENG]</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/como-termino-democracia-eng-opinion/c029#c-29</link>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 May 2018 18:31:47 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>--434871--</dc:creator>
		<guid>https://www.meneame.net/story/como-termino-democracia-eng-opinion/c029#c-29</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[<p>Con un gran aplauso y miles de rojigualdas ondeando al viento.</p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>--434871--</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<meneame:comment_id>24401208</meneame:comment_id>
		<meneame:link_id>2953114</meneame:link_id>
		<meneame:order>28</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>Cristina_Mexias_Canaan</meneame:user>
		<meneame:votes>1</meneame:votes>
		<meneame:karma>-1</meneame:karma>
		<meneame:url>https://www.meneame.net/story/como-termino-democracia-eng-opinion</meneame:url>
		<title>#28 Cómo terminó la democracia [ENG]</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/como-termino-democracia-eng-opinion/c028#c-28</link>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 May 2018 18:17:52 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Cristina_Mexias_Canaan</dc:creator>
		<guid>https://www.meneame.net/story/como-termino-democracia-eng-opinion/c028#c-28</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[<p><a class="tooltip c:2953114-22" href="https://www.meneame.net/story/como-termino-democracia-eng-opinion/c022#c-22" rel="nofollow">#22</a> Do not call me dude. Waiting to catch me up...sure you are llanito.<br />
Or someone else... But not enough Knoweledge. U are boring me 2 death. <br />
Is it harassment?  Or are u one among many needing to kick  me of here?</p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>Cristina_Mexias_Canaan</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<meneame:comment_id>24401149</meneame:comment_id>
		<meneame:link_id>2953114</meneame:link_id>
		<meneame:order>27</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>Autarca</meneame:user>
		<meneame:votes>0</meneame:votes>
		<meneame:karma>10</meneame:karma>
		<meneame:url>https://www.meneame.net/story/como-termino-democracia-eng-opinion</meneame:url>
		<title>#27 Cómo terminó la democracia [ENG]</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/como-termino-democracia-eng-opinion/c027#c-27</link>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 May 2018 18:10:14 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Autarca</dc:creator>
		<guid>https://www.meneame.net/story/como-termino-democracia-eng-opinion/c027#c-27</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[<p><a class="tooltip c:2953114-18" href="https://www.meneame.net/story/como-termino-democracia-eng-opinion/c018#c-18" rel="nofollow">#18</a> <a class="tooltip c:2953114-26" href="https://www.meneame.net/story/como-termino-democracia-eng-opinion/c026#c-26" rel="nofollow">#26</a> un candidato que lleve la democracia real en su programa. <br />
<br />
Cualquiera que no la lleve es que está dispuesto a poner en práctica el programa de sus sponsor,  aunque luego promociones otro. <br />
<br />
Yo antes tenía al partido X,  no consiguió una m***** pero al menos su discurso era claro, pero la absorbió el p*** Podemos para acabar con él.</p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>Autarca</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<meneame:comment_id>24400396</meneame:comment_id>
		<meneame:link_id>2953114</meneame:link_id>
		<meneame:order>26</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>CrudaVerdad</meneame:user>
		<meneame:votes>1</meneame:votes>
		<meneame:karma>13</meneame:karma>
		<meneame:url>https://www.meneame.net/story/como-termino-democracia-eng-opinion</meneame:url>
		<title>#26 Cómo terminó la democracia [ENG]</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/como-termino-democracia-eng-opinion/c026#c-26</link>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 May 2018 16:12:13 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>CrudaVerdad</dc:creator>
		<guid>https://www.meneame.net/story/como-termino-democracia-eng-opinion/c026#c-26</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[<p><a class="tooltip c:2953114-18" href="https://www.meneame.net/story/como-termino-democracia-eng-opinion/c018#c-18" rel="nofollow">#18</a> un candidato que nos muestre la realidad sin importar que tan dolorosa sea, proponga una serie de soluciones que pueden ser muy dolorosas y que nos de realmente las probabilidades de éxito así se apliquen esas soluciones.<br />
<br />
..... Un candidato que no lo veremos jamás.</p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>CrudaVerdad</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<meneame:comment_id>24400347</meneame:comment_id>
		<meneame:link_id>2953114</meneame:link_id>
		<meneame:order>25</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>francesc1</meneame:user>
		<meneame:votes>2</meneame:votes>
		<meneame:karma>26</meneame:karma>
		<meneame:url>https://www.meneame.net/story/como-termino-democracia-eng-opinion</meneame:url>
		<title>#25 Cómo terminó la democracia [ENG]</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/como-termino-democracia-eng-opinion/c025#c-25</link>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 May 2018 16:03:59 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>francesc1</dc:creator>
		<guid>https://www.meneame.net/story/como-termino-democracia-eng-opinion/c025#c-25</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[<p><a class="tooltip c:2953114-17" href="https://www.meneame.net/story/como-termino-democracia-eng-opinion/c017#c-17" rel="nofollow">#17</a> No es que lo hayan olvidado, es que están subvencionados y no tienen cojones, son unos come mierda que solo quieren conservar su sueldo, unos mentirosos compulsivos que no les importamos lo mas mínimo, unos manipuladores</p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>francesc1</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<meneame:comment_id>24400323</meneame:comment_id>
		<meneame:link_id>2953114</meneame:link_id>
		<meneame:order>24</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>A.Roquentin</meneame:user>
		<meneame:votes>0</meneame:votes>
		<meneame:karma>7</meneame:karma>
		<meneame:url>https://www.meneame.net/story/como-termino-democracia-eng-opinion</meneame:url>
		<title>#24 Cómo terminó la democracia [ENG]</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/como-termino-democracia-eng-opinion/c024#c-24</link>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 May 2018 15:57:22 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>A.Roquentin</dc:creator>
		<guid>https://www.meneame.net/story/como-termino-democracia-eng-opinion/c024#c-24</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[<p><a class="tooltip c:2953114-1" href="https://www.meneame.net/story/como-termino-democracia-eng-opinion/c01#c-1" rel="nofollow">#1</a> Te voy a hacer un pequeño favor. Hay plugins o como se llame para los navegadores para que te traduzcan cosas. Si te parece un coñazo liarte para leer dos páginas en inglés mal traducidas al año siempre puedes meter la dirección de la página web en el traductor de google de toda la vida <a href="https://translate.google.com/" title="translate.google.com/" rel="nofollow">translate.google.com/</a> y te la traduce enterita.</p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>A.Roquentin</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<meneame:comment_id>24400321</meneame:comment_id>
		<meneame:link_id>2953114</meneame:link_id>
		<meneame:order>23</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>--501250--</meneame:user>
		<meneame:votes>4</meneame:votes>
		<meneame:karma>47</meneame:karma>
		<meneame:url>https://www.meneame.net/story/como-termino-democracia-eng-opinion</meneame:url>
		<title>#23 Cómo terminó la democracia [ENG]</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/como-termino-democracia-eng-opinion/c023#c-23</link>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 May 2018 15:57:08 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>--501250--</dc:creator>
		<guid>https://www.meneame.net/story/como-termino-democracia-eng-opinion/c023#c-23</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[<p><a class="tooltip c:2953114-7" href="https://www.meneame.net/story/como-termino-democracia-eng-opinion/c07#c-7" rel="nofollow">#7</a> Buen vídeo didáctico. Pero peca de idealizar la democracia griega, que para nada era ideal.<br />
<br />
Empezando por lo evidente. Había esclavitud y las mujeres no votaban. La gente corriente, agricultores por ej., nunca iban a la asamblea, pero sí que los obligaban a ir a la guerra sin darles material.<br />
<br />
Al final se formaron grupos de poder y poderosos. Y por supuesto también surgieron los mentirosos y manipuladores:  los sofistas.<br />
<br />
Y el punto clave: suponiendo que todo lo que salga en el vídeo sea bueno y deseable, ¿cómo se implementa eso en los países modernos? ¿Cómo haces una asamblea de 20 millones de personas? Por eso surgieron las democracias representativas.<br />
<br />
El problema actual es que el pueblo dejó de tener control sobre sus representantes (si es que alguna vez lo tuvo).</p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>--501250--</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<meneame:comment_id>24400287</meneame:comment_id>
		<meneame:link_id>2953114</meneame:link_id>
		<meneame:order>22</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>--430760--</meneame:user>
		<meneame:votes>0</meneame:votes>
		<meneame:karma>7</meneame:karma>
		<meneame:url>https://www.meneame.net/story/como-termino-democracia-eng-opinion</meneame:url>
		<title>#22 Cómo terminó la democracia [ENG]</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/como-termino-democracia-eng-opinion/c022#c-22</link>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 May 2018 15:47:20 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>--430760--</dc:creator>
		<guid>https://www.meneame.net/story/como-termino-democracia-eng-opinion/c022#c-22</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[<p><a class="tooltip c:2953114-19" href="https://www.meneame.net/story/como-termino-democracia-eng-opinion/c019#c-19" rel="nofollow">#19</a> dude, what?</p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>--430760--</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<meneame:comment_id>24400267</meneame:comment_id>
		<meneame:link_id>2953114</meneame:link_id>
		<meneame:order>21</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>pikutara</meneame:user>
		<meneame:votes>1</meneame:votes>
		<meneame:karma>20</meneame:karma>
		<meneame:url>https://www.meneame.net/story/como-termino-democracia-eng-opinion</meneame:url>
		<title>#21 Cómo terminó la democracia [ENG]</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/como-termino-democracia-eng-opinion/c021#c-21</link>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 May 2018 15:44:21 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>pikutara</dc:creator>
		<guid>https://www.meneame.net/story/como-termino-democracia-eng-opinion/c021#c-21</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[<p>La democracia nunca empezó. Si de verdad hubiera empezado solamente el pueblo hubiera podido acabar con ella.</p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>pikutara</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<meneame:comment_id>24400262</meneame:comment_id>
		<meneame:link_id>2953114</meneame:link_id>
		<meneame:order>20</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>--434871--</meneame:user>
		<meneame:votes>0</meneame:votes>
		<meneame:karma>6</meneame:karma>
		<meneame:url>https://www.meneame.net/story/como-termino-democracia-eng-opinion</meneame:url>
		<title>#20 Cómo terminó la democracia [ENG]</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/como-termino-democracia-eng-opinion/c020#c-20</link>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 May 2018 15:43:57 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>--434871--</dc:creator>
		<guid>https://www.meneame.net/story/como-termino-democracia-eng-opinion/c020#c-20</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[<p><a class="tooltip c:2953114-2" href="https://www.meneame.net/story/como-termino-democracia-eng-opinion/c02#c-2" rel="nofollow">#2</a> Eso tiene nombre,NAZIONAL-LIBERALES<br />
<br />
Trapo de colores para entretener al populacho y barra libre para el Ibex.<br />
<br />
Peor que los nazional-socialistas.</p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>--434871--</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<meneame:comment_id>24400248</meneame:comment_id>
		<meneame:link_id>2953114</meneame:link_id>
		<meneame:order>19</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>Cristina_Mexias_Canaan</meneame:user>
		<meneame:votes>1</meneame:votes>
		<meneame:karma>-1</meneame:karma>
		<meneame:url>https://www.meneame.net/story/como-termino-democracia-eng-opinion</meneame:url>
		<title>#19 Cómo terminó la democracia [ENG]</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/como-termino-democracia-eng-opinion/c019#c-19</link>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 May 2018 15:41:25 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Cristina_Mexias_Canaan</dc:creator>
		<guid>https://www.meneame.net/story/como-termino-democracia-eng-opinion/c019#c-19</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[<p>No voy, ni a leer los comentarios.<br />
El artículo es muy bueno pero largo de leer y tan completo que aporta tanto dato que pocos lo leerán.<br />
Por otro lado, dedico este comentario a quien me baneo. <br />
Al parecer, una mujer no puede entrar en el diálogo social pero meneando me he dado cuenta de que no sé si debería limitarme a un universo meneante. Es demasiado limitado y misogino. See u later, alligators!</p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>Cristina_Mexias_Canaan</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<meneame:comment_id>24400217</meneame:comment_id>
		<meneame:link_id>2953114</meneame:link_id>
		<meneame:order>18</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>Brigo</meneame:user>
		<meneame:votes>0</meneame:votes>
		<meneame:karma>9</meneame:karma>
		<meneame:url>https://www.meneame.net/story/como-termino-democracia-eng-opinion</meneame:url>
		<title>#18 Cómo terminó la democracia [ENG]</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/como-termino-democracia-eng-opinion/c018#c-18</link>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 May 2018 15:37:11 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Brigo</dc:creator>
		<guid>https://www.meneame.net/story/como-termino-democracia-eng-opinion/c018#c-18</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[<p><a class="tooltip c:2953114-11" href="https://www.meneame.net/story/como-termino-democracia-eng-opinion/c011#c-11" rel="nofollow">#11</a> ¿Esto dejaría alguna opción política a la que votar? (pregunto en serio)</p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>Brigo</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<meneame:comment_id>24400204</meneame:comment_id>
		<meneame:link_id>2953114</meneame:link_id>
		<meneame:order>17</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>aironman</meneame:user>
		<meneame:votes>0</meneame:votes>
		<meneame:karma>10</meneame:karma>
		<meneame:url>https://www.meneame.net/story/como-termino-democracia-eng-opinion</meneame:url>
		<title>#17 Cómo terminó la democracia [ENG]</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/como-termino-democracia-eng-opinion/c017#c-17</link>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 May 2018 15:34:31 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>aironman</dc:creator>
		<guid>https://www.meneame.net/story/como-termino-democracia-eng-opinion/c017#c-17</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[<p>Normal cuando tienes unos medios de comunicación que han olvidado su razón de ser, el cuarto poder.</p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>aironman</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<meneame:comment_id>24400172</meneame:comment_id>
		<meneame:link_id>2953114</meneame:link_id>
		<meneame:order>16</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>ED209</meneame:user>
		<meneame:votes>5</meneame:votes>
		<meneame:karma>47</meneame:karma>
		<meneame:url>https://www.meneame.net/story/como-termino-democracia-eng-opinion</meneame:url>
		<title>#16 Cómo terminó la democracia [ENG]</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/como-termino-democracia-eng-opinion/c016#c-16</link>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 May 2018 15:24:40 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>ED209</dc:creator>
		<guid>https://www.meneame.net/story/como-termino-democracia-eng-opinion/c016#c-16</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[<p>con un estruendoso aplauso?<br />
<br />
<i>Padmé Amidala, circa 19 BBY</i></p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>ED209</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<meneame:comment_id>24400148</meneame:comment_id>
		<meneame:link_id>2953114</meneame:link_id>
		<meneame:order>15</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>TrollHunter</meneame:user>
		<meneame:votes>0</meneame:votes>
		<meneame:karma>8</meneame:karma>
		<meneame:url>https://www.meneame.net/story/como-termino-democracia-eng-opinion</meneame:url>
		<title>#15 Cómo terminó la democracia [ENG]</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/como-termino-democracia-eng-opinion/c015#c-15</link>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 May 2018 15:20:01 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>TrollHunter</dc:creator>
		<guid>https://www.meneame.net/story/como-termino-democracia-eng-opinion/c015#c-15</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[<p><a class="tooltip c:2953114-11" href="https://www.meneame.net/story/como-termino-democracia-eng-opinion/c011#c-11" rel="nofollow">#11</a> de primero de populismo y demagogia, pero ese concepto no le llega a la mayoría</p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>TrollHunter</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<meneame:comment_id>24400144</meneame:comment_id>
		<meneame:link_id>2953114</meneame:link_id>
		<meneame:order>14</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>capitan__nemo</meneame:user>
		<meneame:votes>1</meneame:votes>
		<meneame:karma>18</meneame:karma>
		<meneame:url>https://www.meneame.net/story/como-termino-democracia-eng-opinion</meneame:url>
		<title>#14 Cómo terminó la democracia [ENG]</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/como-termino-democracia-eng-opinion/c014#c-14</link>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 May 2018 15:18:51 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>capitan__nemo</dc:creator>
		<guid>https://www.meneame.net/story/como-termino-democracia-eng-opinion/c014#c-14</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[<p>Así fue casi siempre, o ha sido casi siempre lo que hoy llamamos democracia, sistema representativo democrático.<br />
<br />
No es que terminó, es que nunca empezó. Se podria decir que se terminó para los ilusos que nos lo creiamos o que alguna vez se lo creyeron. Es como cuando los niños descubren que los reyes magos, o el ratoncito perez no existen.<br />
 <a href="https://www.meneame.net/c/23370799" title="www.meneame.net/c/23370799" rel="nofollow">www.meneame.net/c/23370799</a><br />
<br />
Democracia, o sistema representativo solo son palabras.<br />
 <a href="https://www.meneame.net/c/23637408" title="www.meneame.net/c/23637408" rel="nofollow">www.meneame.net/c/23637408</a><br />
 <a href="https://www.meneame.net/c/23523537" title="www.meneame.net/c/23523537" rel="nofollow">www.meneame.net/c/23523537</a></p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>capitan__nemo</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<meneame:comment_id>24400119</meneame:comment_id>
		<meneame:link_id>2953114</meneame:link_id>
		<meneame:order>13</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>Akrai</meneame:user>
		<meneame:votes>4</meneame:votes>
		<meneame:karma>37</meneame:karma>
		<meneame:url>https://www.meneame.net/story/como-termino-democracia-eng-opinion</meneame:url>
		<title>#13 Cómo terminó la democracia [ENG]</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/como-termino-democracia-eng-opinion/c013#c-13</link>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 May 2018 15:11:05 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Akrai</dc:creator>
		<guid>https://www.meneame.net/story/como-termino-democracia-eng-opinion/c013#c-13</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[<p>Aquí lo que ocurre es que se dan por hecho que muchas cosas que hacemos son realmente democracia<br />
Igual lo que tendría que hacer mucha gente es pensar qué significa democracia, qué cosas que normalmente asociamos como democracia realmente lo es y qué cosas realmente no tienen nada que ver con eso<br />
Igual cuando descubramos que nuestro sistema político proviene de la burguesía igual empezamos a dudar de él</p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>Akrai</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<meneame:comment_id>24400107</meneame:comment_id>
		<meneame:link_id>2953114</meneame:link_id>
		<meneame:order>12</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>--212323--</meneame:user>
		<meneame:votes>2</meneame:votes>
		<meneame:karma>13</meneame:karma>
		<meneame:url>https://www.meneame.net/story/como-termino-democracia-eng-opinion</meneame:url>
		<title>#12 Cómo terminó la democracia [ENG]</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/como-termino-democracia-eng-opinion/c012#c-12</link>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 May 2018 15:08:54 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>--212323--</dc:creator>
		<guid>https://www.meneame.net/story/como-termino-democracia-eng-opinion/c012#c-12</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[<p>[Usuario deshabilitado]</p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>--212323--</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<meneame:comment_id>24400099</meneame:comment_id>
		<meneame:link_id>2953114</meneame:link_id>
		<meneame:order>11</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>CrudaVerdad</meneame:user>
		<meneame:votes>4</meneame:votes>
		<meneame:karma>35</meneame:karma>
		<meneame:url>https://www.meneame.net/story/como-termino-democracia-eng-opinion</meneame:url>
		<title>#11 Cómo terminó la democracia [ENG]</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/como-termino-democracia-eng-opinion/c011#c-11</link>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 May 2018 15:07:53 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>CrudaVerdad</dc:creator>
		<guid>https://www.meneame.net/story/como-termino-democracia-eng-opinion/c011#c-11</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[<p>Si el candidato usa estás palabras, aléjate de este:<br />
Oligarquía<br />
Represento al pueblo<br />
Por los más necesitados<br />
El imperio nos ataca<br />
Por nuestra identidad<br />
Por nuestros valores<br />
Comprometido en Cristo<br />
Seremos más humanos<br />
No subiré, ni crearé impuestos<br />
Pelearemos por los pobres<br />
Veo un glorioso futuro para nuestra nación<br />
<br />
<br />
<br />
Populismo en general</p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>CrudaVerdad</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<meneame:comment_id>24400034</meneame:comment_id>
		<meneame:link_id>2953114</meneame:link_id>
		<meneame:order>10</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>vviccio</meneame:user>
		<meneame:votes>0</meneame:votes>
		<meneame:karma>11</meneame:karma>
		<meneame:url>https://www.meneame.net/story/como-termino-democracia-eng-opinion</meneame:url>
		<title>#10 Cómo terminó la democracia [ENG]</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/como-termino-democracia-eng-opinion/c010#c-10</link>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 May 2018 14:52:04 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>vviccio</dc:creator>
		<guid>https://www.meneame.net/story/como-termino-democracia-eng-opinion/c010#c-10</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[<p>Además los medios meten miedo al electorado porque los accionistas mayoritarios son...</p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>vviccio</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<meneame:comment_id>24400031</meneame:comment_id>
		<meneame:link_id>2953114</meneame:link_id>
		<meneame:order>9</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>ralph</meneame:user>
		<meneame:votes>2</meneame:votes>
		<meneame:karma>21</meneame:karma>
		<meneame:url>https://www.meneame.net/story/como-termino-democracia-eng-opinion</meneame:url>
		<title>#9 Cómo terminó la democracia [ENG]</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/como-termino-democracia-eng-opinion/c09#c-9</link>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 May 2018 14:51:55 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>ralph</dc:creator>
		<guid>https://www.meneame.net/story/como-termino-democracia-eng-opinion/c09#c-9</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[<p>No es el &#34;que gane el menos mentiroso&#34; sino el que mejor le caiga  a la gente. La política no tienen nada que ver en los votos de muchísima gente... por eso a veces es difícil defender la democracia, porque para eso la gente tiene que involucrarse (al menos informarse!)...</p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>ralph</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<meneame:comment_id>24400023</meneame:comment_id>
		<meneame:link_id>2953114</meneame:link_id>
		<meneame:order>8</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>--557077--</meneame:user>
		<meneame:votes>0</meneame:votes>
		<meneame:karma>12</meneame:karma>
		<meneame:url>https://www.meneame.net/story/como-termino-democracia-eng-opinion</meneame:url>
		<title>#8 Cómo terminó la democracia [ENG]</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/como-termino-democracia-eng-opinion/c08#c-8</link>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 May 2018 14:50:38 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>--557077--</dc:creator>
		<guid>https://www.meneame.net/story/como-termino-democracia-eng-opinion/c08#c-8</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[<p>Recomiendo al señor Zuesse, autor del artículo, que lea  Bakunin, Koprotkin y compañía... Anda un poco perdido por lo visto.</p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>--557077--</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<meneame:comment_id>24399923</meneame:comment_id>
		<meneame:link_id>2953114</meneame:link_id>
		<meneame:order>7</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>sofazen</meneame:user>
		<meneame:votes>3</meneame:votes>
		<meneame:karma>26</meneame:karma>
		<meneame:url>https://www.meneame.net/story/como-termino-democracia-eng-opinion</meneame:url>
		<title>#7 Cómo terminó la democracia [ENG]</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/como-termino-democracia-eng-opinion/c07#c-7</link>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 May 2018 14:30:48 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>sofazen</dc:creator>
		<guid>https://www.meneame.net/story/como-termino-democracia-eng-opinion/c07#c-7</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[<p>Estoy pesado lo sé, pero hace poco encontré por aquí este vídeo y me encantó (gracias y créditos a quien lo enviara):<br />
<a href="https://www.google.com/search?q=whymaps+democracia&#38;ie=utf-8&#38;oe=utf-8&#38;client=firefox-b" title="www.google.com/search?q=whymaps+democracia&#38;ie=utf-8&#38;oe=utf-8&#38;client=firefox-b" rel="nofollow">www.google.com/search?q=whymaps+democracia&#38;ie=utf-8&#38;oe=utf-8&a</a></p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>sofazen</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<meneame:comment_id>24399862</meneame:comment_id>
		<meneame:link_id>2953114</meneame:link_id>
		<meneame:order>6</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>regum</meneame:user>
		<meneame:votes>4</meneame:votes>
		<meneame:karma>-3</meneame:karma>
		<meneame:url>https://www.meneame.net/story/como-termino-democracia-eng-opinion</meneame:url>
		<title>#6 Cómo terminó la democracia [ENG]</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/como-termino-democracia-eng-opinion/c06#c-6</link>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 May 2018 14:17:00 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>regum</dc:creator>
		<guid>https://www.meneame.net/story/como-termino-democracia-eng-opinion/c06#c-6</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[<p><a class="tooltip c:2953114-3" href="https://www.meneame.net/story/como-termino-democracia-eng-opinion/c03#c-3" rel="nofollow">#3</a>  El fascista anaranjado , morira como el falangista ? o como el caudillo por la gracia de Dios , en la cama y hasta el culo de barbituricos, alguna maga o mago, gitana o gitano  que le lea la mano por fa, que le mandare un ramo de rosas amarillas .</p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>regum</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<meneame:comment_id>24399819</meneame:comment_id>
		<meneame:link_id>2953114</meneame:link_id>
		<meneame:order>5</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>regum</meneame:user>
		<meneame:votes>7</meneame:votes>
		<meneame:karma>48</meneame:karma>
		<meneame:url>https://www.meneame.net/story/como-termino-democracia-eng-opinion</meneame:url>
		<title>#5 Cómo terminó la democracia [ENG]</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/como-termino-democracia-eng-opinion/c05#c-5</link>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 May 2018 14:06:53 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>regum</dc:creator>
		<guid>https://www.meneame.net/story/como-termino-democracia-eng-opinion/c05#c-5</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[<p><a class="tooltip c:2953114-2" href="https://www.meneame.net/story/como-termino-democracia-eng-opinion/c02#c-2" rel="nofollow">#2</a> Sin olvidarte de la falsa izquierda , la de los valores, la del pueblo sobre todo en Ejpañistan los del P..E, que mantienen unas siglas que humillan a los socialistas de verdad y que son mera propaganda para incultos y aborregados que creen que el socialismo obrero es lo que que practican los mal llamados socialistas de partido de la cal</p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>regum</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<meneame:comment_id>24399810</meneame:comment_id>
		<meneame:link_id>2953114</meneame:link_id>
		<meneame:order>4</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>Spartan67</meneame:user>
		<meneame:votes>3</meneame:votes>
		<meneame:karma>34</meneame:karma>
		<meneame:url>https://www.meneame.net/story/como-termino-democracia-eng-opinion</meneame:url>
		<title>#4 Cómo terminó la democracia [ENG]</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/como-termino-democracia-eng-opinion/c04#c-4</link>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 May 2018 14:05:19 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Spartan67</dc:creator>
		<guid>https://www.meneame.net/story/como-termino-democracia-eng-opinion/c04#c-4</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[<p>La multitud está hipnotizada.</p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>Spartan67</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<meneame:comment_id>24399610</meneame:comment_id>
		<meneame:link_id>2953114</meneame:link_id>
		<meneame:order>3</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>Verbenero</meneame:user>
		<meneame:votes>7</meneame:votes>
		<meneame:karma>101</meneame:karma>
		<meneame:url>https://www.meneame.net/story/como-termino-democracia-eng-opinion</meneame:url>
		<title>#3 Cómo terminó la democracia [ENG]</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/como-termino-democracia-eng-opinion/c03#c-3</link>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 May 2018 13:32:54 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Verbenero</dc:creator>
		<guid>https://www.meneame.net/story/como-termino-democracia-eng-opinion/c03#c-3</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[<p>Ya te digo, con el Rivera francés se la han metido bien doblada a los gabachos.<br />
Me río porque aquí aún no manda falangito, cuestión de meses.</p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>Verbenero</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<meneame:comment_id>24399590</meneame:comment_id>
		<meneame:link_id>2953114</meneame:link_id>
		<meneame:order>2</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>--580971--</meneame:user>
		<meneame:votes>13</meneame:votes>
		<meneame:karma>72</meneame:karma>
		<meneame:url>https://www.meneame.net/story/como-termino-democracia-eng-opinion</meneame:url>
		<title>#2 Cómo terminó la democracia [ENG]</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/como-termino-democracia-eng-opinion/c02#c-2</link>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 May 2018 13:28:58 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>--580971--</dc:creator>
		<guid>https://www.meneame.net/story/como-termino-democracia-eng-opinion/c02#c-2</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[<p>[Usuario deshabilitado]</p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>--580971--</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<meneame:comment_id>24399372</meneame:comment_id>
		<meneame:link_id>2953114</meneame:link_id>
		<meneame:order>1</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>mando</meneame:user>
		<meneame:votes>5</meneame:votes>
		<meneame:karma>39</meneame:karma>
		<meneame:url>https://www.meneame.net/story/como-termino-democracia-eng-opinion</meneame:url>
		<title>#1 Cómo terminó la democracia [ENG]</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/como-termino-democracia-eng-opinion/c01#c-1</link>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 May 2018 12:54:54 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>mando</dc:creator>
		<guid>https://www.meneame.net/story/como-termino-democracia-eng-opinion/c01#c-1</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[<p>Es una pena que esté en inglés y yo esté vago. Pero la entradilla tiene mucha razón.<br />
<br />
Hago el chiste de rigor: &#34;yo voté a Kodos&#34;.</p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>mando</strong></p>]]></description>
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