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		<meneame:comment_id>16828627</meneame:comment_id>
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		<meneame:order>16</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>Nitros</meneame:user>
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		<title>#16 Magic the Gathering, la droga de mesa (ING)</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/m/ocio/magic-the-gathering-droga-mesa-ing/c016#c-16</link>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 May 2015 17:57:27 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Nitros</dc:creator>
		<guid>https://www.meneame.net/m/ocio/magic-the-gathering-droga-mesa-ing/c016#c-16</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[<p><a class="tooltip c:2406228-5" href="https://www.meneame.net/m/ocio/magic-the-gathering-droga-mesa-ing/c05#c-5" rel="nofollow">#5</a> <i>Aquel que tiene más dinero de base para gastarse en sobres y comprar cartas es el que gana.</i><br />
Bueno, esto es relativo.<br />
<br />
Si juegas de chico, tienes la ventaja de que algunos tendrán más dinero que sesos, y si juegas de mayor ya en serio, no es tan caro montarte un pedazo de mazo.<br />
<br />
Yo, de pequeño, violaba en varias ocasiones a otros chavales de mi clase que se llenaban de cartas chupiguays. Tan simple como ir solo azul con counters por todas partes (antes, las azules tenían los counter casi en exclusiva y costaban poquísimo de ejecutar). Luego empezaron a copiarme y ya la cosa se volvió más complicada.</p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>Nitros</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<meneame:comment_id>16821868</meneame:comment_id>
		<meneame:link_id>2406228</meneame:link_id>
		<meneame:order>15</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>--129682--</meneame:user>
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		<meneame:karma>8</meneame:karma>
		<meneame:url>https://www.meneame.net/m/ocio/magic-the-gathering-droga-mesa-ing</meneame:url>
		<title>#15 Magic the Gathering, la droga de mesa (ING)</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/m/ocio/magic-the-gathering-droga-mesa-ing/c015#c-15</link>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 May 2015 20:43:35 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>--129682--</dc:creator>
		<guid>https://www.meneame.net/m/ocio/magic-the-gathering-droga-mesa-ing/c015#c-15</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[<p><a class="tooltip c:2406228-5" href="https://www.meneame.net/m/ocio/magic-the-gathering-droga-mesa-ing/c05#c-5" rel="nofollow">#5</a> está claro que no eras bueno, ya te han dicho por aquí abajo que eso no es necesario.</p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>--129682--</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<meneame:comment_id>16821514</meneame:comment_id>
		<meneame:link_id>2406228</meneame:link_id>
		<meneame:order>14</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>Tr13ce</meneame:user>
		<meneame:votes>0</meneame:votes>
		<meneame:karma>7</meneame:karma>
		<meneame:url>https://www.meneame.net/m/ocio/magic-the-gathering-droga-mesa-ing</meneame:url>
		<title>#14 Magic the Gathering, la droga de mesa (ING)</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/m/ocio/magic-the-gathering-droga-mesa-ing/c014#c-14</link>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 May 2015 19:46:35 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Tr13ce</dc:creator>
		<guid>https://www.meneame.net/m/ocio/magic-the-gathering-droga-mesa-ing/c014#c-14</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[<p>¿Sin fundas? Menudos herejes.</p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>Tr13ce</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<meneame:comment_id>16821386</meneame:comment_id>
		<meneame:link_id>2406228</meneame:link_id>
		<meneame:order>13</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>Uzer</meneame:user>
		<meneame:votes>0</meneame:votes>
		<meneame:karma>7</meneame:karma>
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		<title>#13 Magic the Gathering, la droga de mesa (ING)</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/m/ocio/magic-the-gathering-droga-mesa-ing/c013#c-13</link>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 May 2015 19:18:18 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Uzer</dc:creator>
		<guid>https://www.meneame.net/m/ocio/magic-the-gathering-droga-mesa-ing/c013#c-13</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[<p>Más de un gran jugador de póker de la actualidad es ex jugador de Magic.<br />
Se puede hacer mucho dinero si eres bueno<br />
<a class="tooltip c:2406228-5" href="https://www.meneame.net/m/ocio/magic-the-gathering-droga-mesa-ing/c05#c-5" rel="nofollow">#5</a> a nivel bajo/medio es así, a nivel alto el dinero en el mazo es lo de menos, además que, los que juegan a ese nivel, tienen mil formas para autofinanciarse dentro del propio juego.</p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>Uzer</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<meneame:comment_id>16821369</meneame:comment_id>
		<meneame:link_id>2406228</meneame:link_id>
		<meneame:order>12</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>--133372--</meneame:user>
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		<title>#12 Magic the Gathering, la droga de mesa (ING)</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/m/ocio/magic-the-gathering-droga-mesa-ing/c012#c-12</link>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 May 2015 19:16:37 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>--133372--</dc:creator>
		<guid>https://www.meneame.net/m/ocio/magic-the-gathering-droga-mesa-ing/c012#c-12</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[<p><a class="tooltip c:2406228-4" href="https://www.meneame.net/m/ocio/magic-the-gathering-droga-mesa-ing/c04#c-4" rel="nofollow">#4</a> ¿No habrá pagafantas?</p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>--133372--</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<meneame:comment_id>16821348</meneame:comment_id>
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		<meneame:order>11</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>--280860--</meneame:user>
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		<meneame:karma>18</meneame:karma>
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		<title>#11 Magic the Gathering, la droga de mesa (ING)</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/m/ocio/magic-the-gathering-droga-mesa-ing/c011#c-11</link>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 May 2015 19:12:39 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>--280860--</dc:creator>
		<guid>https://www.meneame.net/m/ocio/magic-the-gathering-droga-mesa-ing/c011#c-11</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[<p><a class="tooltip c:2406228-8" href="https://www.meneame.net/m/ocio/magic-the-gathering-droga-mesa-ing/c08#c-8" rel="nofollow">#8</a> ¡Es ilegal!</p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>--280860--</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<meneame:comment_id>16821347</meneame:comment_id>
		<meneame:link_id>2406228</meneame:link_id>
		<meneame:order>10</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>Nagash</meneame:user>
		<meneame:votes>1</meneame:votes>
		<meneame:karma>19</meneame:karma>
		<meneame:url>https://www.meneame.net/m/ocio/magic-the-gathering-droga-mesa-ing</meneame:url>
		<title>#10 Magic the Gathering, la droga de mesa (ING)</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/m/ocio/magic-the-gathering-droga-mesa-ing/c010#c-10</link>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 May 2015 19:12:33 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Nagash</dc:creator>
		<guid>https://www.meneame.net/m/ocio/magic-the-gathering-droga-mesa-ing/c010#c-10</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[<p><a class="tooltip c:2406228-9" href="https://www.meneame.net/m/ocio/magic-the-gathering-droga-mesa-ing/c09#c-9" rel="nofollow">#9</a> Yo creo que lo que en realidad te llevaría a comprar mas es el hecho de la &#34;coleccion&#34; Magic en cierto sentido es como la filatelia, el black lotus no cuesta 50k por que sea la mejor carta jamas impresa si no por su valor de coleccion.<br />
<br />
Yo juego mazos de 20 dolares que compiten y ganan a mazos  que solo en base de mana se gastan 300 o 400 dolares</p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>Nagash</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<meneame:comment_id>16821329</meneame:comment_id>
		<meneame:link_id>2406228</meneame:link_id>
		<meneame:order>9</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>--474944--</meneame:user>
		<meneame:votes>0</meneame:votes>
		<meneame:karma>8</meneame:karma>
		<meneame:url>https://www.meneame.net/m/ocio/magic-the-gathering-droga-mesa-ing</meneame:url>
		<title>#9 Magic the Gathering, la droga de mesa (ING)</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/m/ocio/magic-the-gathering-droga-mesa-ing/c09#c-9</link>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 May 2015 19:10:03 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>--474944--</dc:creator>
		<guid>https://www.meneame.net/m/ocio/magic-the-gathering-droga-mesa-ing/c09#c-9</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[<p><a class="tooltip c:2406228-7" href="https://www.meneame.net/m/ocio/magic-the-gathering-droga-mesa-ing/c07#c-7" rel="nofollow">#7</a> <a class="tooltip c:2406228-6" href="https://www.meneame.net/m/ocio/magic-the-gathering-droga-mesa-ing/c06#c-6" rel="nofollow">#6</a> Claro y se puede jugar con booster drafts o con barajas limitadas, pero el hecho básico es que es un juego pensado en el gasto infinito como estrategia de márketing. Que la mecánica de juego y eso mola no lo discute nadie, pero es lo mismo que pasa con D&#38;D y sus expansiones múltiples y ediciones múltiples o con Warhammer. Claro que cada cuál puede gastarse la pasta que quiera, pero está pensado siguiendo el mismo resorte pavloviano del Candy Crush. Te generan una necesidad y acabas siendo medio dependiente de ella a un nivel que te lleva a comprar más.</p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>--474944--</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<meneame:comment_id>16821309</meneame:comment_id>
		<meneame:link_id>2406228</meneame:link_id>
		<meneame:order>8</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>homebrewer</meneame:user>
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		<meneame:karma>10</meneame:karma>
		<meneame:url>https://www.meneame.net/m/ocio/magic-the-gathering-droga-mesa-ing</meneame:url>
		<title>#8 Magic the Gathering, la droga de mesa (ING)</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/m/ocio/magic-the-gathering-droga-mesa-ing/c08#c-8</link>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 May 2015 19:07:16 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>homebrewer</dc:creator>
		<guid>https://www.meneame.net/m/ocio/magic-the-gathering-droga-mesa-ing/c08#c-8</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[<p>Es mucho más divertido el Polli Magic.<br />
<br />
<a href="http://southpark.cc.com/full-episodes/s18e08-cock-magic#source=57baee9c-b611-4260-958b-05315479a7fc:c6cbd5e3-7eae-4cc3-94b7-119c8d412f99&#38;position=8&#38;sort=!airdate" title="southpark.cc.com/full-episodes/s18e08-cock-magic#source=57baee9c-b611-4260-958b-05315479a7fc:c6cbd5e3-7eae-4cc3-94b7-119c8d412f99&#38;position=8&#38;sort=!airdate" rel="nofollow">southpark.cc.com/full-episodes/s18e08-cock-magic#source=57baee9c-b611-</a></p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>homebrewer</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<meneame:comment_id>16821293</meneame:comment_id>
		<meneame:link_id>2406228</meneame:link_id>
		<meneame:order>7</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>Nagash</meneame:user>
		<meneame:votes>0</meneame:votes>
		<meneame:karma>8</meneame:karma>
		<meneame:url>https://www.meneame.net/m/ocio/magic-the-gathering-droga-mesa-ing</meneame:url>
		<title>#7 Magic the Gathering, la droga de mesa (ING)</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/m/ocio/magic-the-gathering-droga-mesa-ing/c07#c-7</link>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 May 2015 19:05:28 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Nagash</dc:creator>
		<guid>https://www.meneame.net/m/ocio/magic-the-gathering-droga-mesa-ing/c07#c-7</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[<p><a class="tooltip c:2406228-5" href="https://www.meneame.net/m/ocio/magic-the-gathering-droga-mesa-ing/c05#c-5" rel="nofollow">#5</a> Hay mucha gente que juega (y gana) sin hacer netdecking creando mazos con cartas no tan caras</p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>Nagash</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<meneame:comment_id>16821244</meneame:comment_id>
		<meneame:link_id>2406228</meneame:link_id>
		<meneame:order>6</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>Robus</meneame:user>
		<meneame:votes>2</meneame:votes>
		<meneame:karma>22</meneame:karma>
		<meneame:url>https://www.meneame.net/m/ocio/magic-the-gathering-droga-mesa-ing</meneame:url>
		<title>#6 Magic the Gathering, la droga de mesa (ING)</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/m/ocio/magic-the-gathering-droga-mesa-ing/c06#c-6</link>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 May 2015 18:59:51 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Robus</dc:creator>
		<guid>https://www.meneame.net/m/ocio/magic-the-gathering-droga-mesa-ing/c06#c-6</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[<p><a class="tooltip c:2406228-5" href="https://www.meneame.net/m/ocio/magic-the-gathering-droga-mesa-ing/c05#c-5" rel="nofollow">#5</a> No si juegas drafts... <img data-src="https://cdn.mnmstatic.net/v_149/img/menemojis/36/wink.png" alt=";)" title=";)" width="18" height="18" src="https://cdn.mnmstatic.net/v_149/img/g.gif" class="emoji lazy" /></p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>Robus</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<meneame:comment_id>16821212</meneame:comment_id>
		<meneame:link_id>2406228</meneame:link_id>
		<meneame:order>5</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>--474944--</meneame:user>
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		<meneame:url>https://www.meneame.net/m/ocio/magic-the-gathering-droga-mesa-ing</meneame:url>
		<title>#5 Magic the Gathering, la droga de mesa (ING)</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/m/ocio/magic-the-gathering-droga-mesa-ing/c05#c-5</link>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 May 2015 18:56:57 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>--474944--</dc:creator>
		<guid>https://www.meneame.net/m/ocio/magic-the-gathering-droga-mesa-ing/c05#c-5</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[<p>Yo abandoné este juego porque ejemplifica como pocos y, sobre todo mucho mejor que el monopoly, lo que es el capitalismo agresivo. Aquel que tiene más dinero de base para gastarse en sobres y comprar cartas es el que gana.</p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>--474944--</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<meneame:comment_id>16821180</meneame:comment_id>
		<meneame:link_id>2406228</meneame:link_id>
		<meneame:order>4</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>pkreuzt</meneame:user>
		<meneame:votes>0</meneame:votes>
		<meneame:karma>12</meneame:karma>
		<meneame:url>https://www.meneame.net/m/ocio/magic-the-gathering-droga-mesa-ing</meneame:url>
		<title>#4 Magic the Gathering, la droga de mesa (ING)</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/m/ocio/magic-the-gathering-droga-mesa-ing/c04#c-4</link>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 May 2015 18:53:41 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>pkreuzt</dc:creator>
		<guid>https://www.meneame.net/m/ocio/magic-the-gathering-droga-mesa-ing/c04#c-4</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[<p><a class="tooltip c:2406228-3" href="https://www.meneame.net/m/ocio/magic-the-gathering-droga-mesa-ing/c03#c-3" rel="nofollow">#3</a> Ni para invitar a chicas, lo cual a su vez explica muchas cosas <img data-src="https://cdn.mnmstatic.net/v_149/img/menemojis/36/blank.png" alt=":-|" title=":-| :|" width="18" height="18" src="https://cdn.mnmstatic.net/v_149/img/g.gif" class="emoji lazy" /></p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>pkreuzt</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<meneame:comment_id>16821159</meneame:comment_id>
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		<meneame:user>Robus</meneame:user>
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		<meneame:url>https://www.meneame.net/m/ocio/magic-the-gathering-droga-mesa-ing</meneame:url>
		<title>#3 Magic the Gathering, la droga de mesa (ING)</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/m/ocio/magic-the-gathering-droga-mesa-ing/c03#c-3</link>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 May 2015 18:51:08 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Robus</dc:creator>
		<guid>https://www.meneame.net/m/ocio/magic-the-gathering-droga-mesa-ing/c03#c-3</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[<p>Creo que esta imagen lo explica todo... (cc <a class="tooltip c:2406228-1" href="https://www.meneame.net/m/ocio/magic-the-gathering-droga-mesa-ing/c01#c-1" rel="nofollow">#1</a> <a class="tooltip c:2406228-2" href="https://www.meneame.net/m/ocio/magic-the-gathering-droga-mesa-ing/c02#c-2" rel="nofollow">#2</a>)</p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>Robus</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<meneame:comment_id>16821152</meneame:comment_id>
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		<meneame:user>El_Cucaracho</meneame:user>
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		<title>#2 Magic the Gathering, la droga de mesa (ING)</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/m/ocio/magic-the-gathering-droga-mesa-ing/c02#c-2</link>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 May 2015 18:50:22 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>El_Cucaracho</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[<p><a class="tooltip c:2406228-1" href="https://www.meneame.net/m/ocio/magic-the-gathering-droga-mesa-ing/c01#c-1" rel="nofollow">#1</a> La droga es mala.</p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>El_Cucaracho</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<meneame:comment_id>16821136</meneame:comment_id>
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		<meneame:user>pkreuzt</meneame:user>
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		<title>#1 Magic the Gathering, la droga de mesa (ING)</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 07 May 2015 18:48:20 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>pkreuzt</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[<p>Di NO a la droga. <img data-src="https://cdn.mnmstatic.net/v_149/img/menemojis/36/blank.png" alt=":-|" title=":-| :|" width="18" height="18" src="https://cdn.mnmstatic.net/v_149/img/g.gif" class="emoji lazy" /></p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>pkreuzt</strong></p>]]></description>
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