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		<meneame:order>11</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>kumo</meneame:user>
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		<title>#11 Rusia «pone en jaque» a los sistemas PATRIOT, NASAMS e IRIS-T lanzando «drones de madera»</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/m/defensa/rusia-pone-jaque-sistemas-patriot-nasams-iris-t-lanzando-drones/c011#c-11</link>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 May 2023 15:34:32 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>kumo</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[<p>Yo diría que lo caro no es precisamente el fuselaje, sino la electrónica y los motores.</p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>kumo</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<meneame:comment_id>38446471</meneame:comment_id>
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		<meneame:order>10</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>mosfet</meneame:user>
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		<title>#10 Rusia «pone en jaque» a los sistemas PATRIOT, NASAMS e IRIS-T lanzando «drones de madera»</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/m/defensa/rusia-pone-jaque-sistemas-patriot-nasams-iris-t-lanzando-drones/c010#c-10</link>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 May 2023 12:42:59 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>mosfet</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[<p>Si llenas el cielo de drones de cartón, de madera, de papel maché... al final  a qué coñ@ disparas?</p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>mosfet</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<meneame:comment_id>38445231</meneame:comment_id>
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		<meneame:order>9</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>lectorcritico</meneame:user>
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		<title>#9 Rusia «pone en jaque» a los sistemas PATRIOT, NASAMS e IRIS-T lanzando «drones de madera»</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/m/defensa/rusia-pone-jaque-sistemas-patriot-nasams-iris-t-lanzando-drones/c09#c-9</link>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 May 2023 10:03:35 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>lectorcritico</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[<p>En  las guerras del Golfo, creo que la primera, ya se usaban drones sacrificables para que los sistemas de defensa se revelasen y fuesen neutralizados por armas que van hacia el radar.<br />
Tambien es logico usar algo barato para saturar las defensas y luego lanzar lo bueno.</p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>lectorcritico</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<meneame:order>8</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>--602521--</meneame:user>
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		<title>#8 Rusia «pone en jaque» a los sistemas PATRIOT, NASAMS e IRIS-T lanzando «drones de madera»</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/m/defensa/rusia-pone-jaque-sistemas-patriot-nasams-iris-t-lanzando-drones/c08#c-8</link>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 May 2023 08:52:07 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>--602521--</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[<p><a class="tooltip c:3815578-5" href="https://www.meneame.net/m/defensa/rusia-pone-jaque-sistemas-patriot-nasams-iris-t-lanzando-drones/c05#c-5" rel="nofollow">#5</a> imagen para ilustralo ,se monta con gomas <img data-src="https://cdn.mnmstatic.net/v_149/img/menemojis/36/troll.png" alt=":troll:" title=":troll:" width="18" height="18" src="https://cdn.mnmstatic.net/v_149/img/g.gif" class="emoji lazy" /></p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>--602521--</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<title>#7 Rusia «pone en jaque» a los sistemas PATRIOT, NASAMS e IRIS-T lanzando «drones de madera»</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/m/defensa/rusia-pone-jaque-sistemas-patriot-nasams-iris-t-lanzando-drones/c07#c-7</link>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 May 2023 08:50:18 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>--602521--</dc:creator>
		<guid>https://www.meneame.net/m/defensa/rusia-pone-jaque-sistemas-patriot-nasams-iris-t-lanzando-drones/c07#c-7</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[<p><a class="tooltip c:3815578-5" href="https://www.meneame.net/m/defensa/rusia-pone-jaque-sistemas-patriot-nasams-iris-t-lanzando-drones/c05#c-5" rel="nofollow">#5</a> aquí un vídeo ilustrativo, <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yu6KPpWl0Ck" title="www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yu6KPpWl0Ck" rel="nofollow">www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yu6KPpWl0Ck</a></p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>--602521--</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<meneame:comment_id>38444593</meneame:comment_id>
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		<meneame:order>6</meneame:order>
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		<title>#6 Rusia «pone en jaque» a los sistemas PATRIOT, NASAMS e IRIS-T lanzando «drones de madera»</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/m/defensa/rusia-pone-jaque-sistemas-patriot-nasams-iris-t-lanzando-drones/c06#c-6</link>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 May 2023 08:49:00 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>--602521--</dc:creator>
		<guid>https://www.meneame.net/m/defensa/rusia-pone-jaque-sistemas-patriot-nasams-iris-t-lanzando-drones/c06#c-6</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[<p><a class="tooltip c:3815578-5" href="https://www.meneame.net/m/defensa/rusia-pone-jaque-sistemas-patriot-nasams-iris-t-lanzando-drones/c05#c-5" rel="nofollow">#5</a> buena definicion</p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>--602521--</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<meneame:order>5</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>Max13</meneame:user>
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		<title>#5 Rusia «pone en jaque» a los sistemas PATRIOT, NASAMS e IRIS-T lanzando «drones de madera»</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/m/defensa/rusia-pone-jaque-sistemas-patriot-nasams-iris-t-lanzando-drones/c05#c-5</link>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 May 2023 08:41:27 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Max13</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[<p><a class="tooltip c:3815578-4" href="https://www.meneame.net/m/defensa/rusia-pone-jaque-sistemas-patriot-nasams-iris-t-lanzando-drones/c04#c-4" rel="nofollow">#4</a> Cartrones?</p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>Max13</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<meneame:comment_id>38443894</meneame:comment_id>
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		<meneame:order>4</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>--602521--</meneame:user>
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		<title>#4 Rusia «pone en jaque» a los sistemas PATRIOT, NASAMS e IRIS-T lanzando «drones de madera»</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/m/defensa/rusia-pone-jaque-sistemas-patriot-nasams-iris-t-lanzando-drones/c04#c-4</link>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 May 2023 07:22:13 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>--602521--</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[<p>ucrania usa drones de carton</p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>--602521--</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<meneame:comment_id>38442964</meneame:comment_id>
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		<meneame:order>3</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>Razorworks</meneame:user>
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		<title>#3 Rusia «pone en jaque» a los sistemas PATRIOT, NASAMS e IRIS-T lanzando «drones de madera»</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/m/defensa/rusia-pone-jaque-sistemas-patriot-nasams-iris-t-lanzando-drones/c03#c-3</link>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 May 2023 23:08:20 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Razorworks</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[<p><i>&#34;Además, el informe sugiere que las fuerzas rusas han demostrado la capacidad de desencriptar en tiempo real los sistemas de comunicaciones Motorola encriptados de Ucrania.&#34;</i><br />
<br />
Se refieren a los walkies DMR de Motorola, encriptados con AES256 pero que, por mandato de la NSA, tienen un backdoor que &#34;chiva&#34; la key. Todo en nombre de la seguridad nacional, claro. Y los rusos habrán encontrado ese backdoor <img data-src="https://cdn.mnmstatic.net/v_149/img/menemojis/36/troll.png" alt=":troll:" title=":troll:" width="18" height="18" src="https://cdn.mnmstatic.net/v_149/img/g.gif" class="emoji lazy" />. Y eso por no pensar en que también los pueden estar encriptando usando ARC4 o BP, pero eso ya sería un chiste.</p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>Razorworks</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<meneame:user>cocococo</meneame:user>
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		<title>#2 Rusia «pone en jaque» a los sistemas PATRIOT, NASAMS e IRIS-T lanzando «drones de madera»</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/m/defensa/rusia-pone-jaque-sistemas-patriot-nasams-iris-t-lanzando-drones/c02#c-2</link>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 May 2023 22:10:26 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>cocococo</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[<p><a href="https://youtu.be/TQsv5f6gxfg" title="youtu.be/TQsv5f6gxfg" rel="nofollow">youtu.be/TQsv5f6gxfg</a></p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>cocococo</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<meneame:user>johel</meneame:user>
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		<title>#1 Rusia «pone en jaque» a los sistemas PATRIOT, NASAMS e IRIS-T lanzando «drones de madera»</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/m/defensa/rusia-pone-jaque-sistemas-patriot-nasams-iris-t-lanzando-drones/c01#c-1</link>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 May 2023 20:29:57 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>johel</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[<p>¿Estamos seguros de que no envian aviones de papel montando el Kit de Conversión para Aviones de Papel con Motor Eléctrico ? <img data-src="https://cdn.mnmstatic.net/v_149/img/menemojis/36/shit.png" alt=":shit:" title=":shit:" width="18" height="18" src="https://cdn.mnmstatic.net/v_149/img/g.gif" class="emoji lazy" /></p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>johel</strong></p>]]></description>
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