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		<title>#17 13 grados 13 millas. La tragedia del submarino C4</title>
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		<meneame:comment_id>36962005</meneame:comment_id>
		<meneame:link_id>3739107</meneame:link_id>
		<meneame:order>16</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>El_Cucaracho</meneame:user>
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		<title>#16 13 grados 13 millas. La tragedia del submarino C4</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/m/Mnm/13-grados-13-millas-tragedia-submarino-c4/c016#c-16</link>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Oct 2022 11:11:25 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>El_Cucaracho</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[<p>Como oí una vez: &#34;el que inventó el coche inventó los accidentes automovilisticos&#34;</p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>El_Cucaracho</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<meneame:comment_id>36961266</meneame:comment_id>
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		<meneame:order>15</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>Nylo</meneame:user>
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		<meneame:karma>10</meneame:karma>
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		<title>#15 13 grados 13 millas. La tragedia del submarino C4</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/m/Mnm/13-grados-13-millas-tragedia-submarino-c4/c015#c-15</link>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Oct 2022 10:00:24 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Nylo</dc:creator>
		<guid>https://www.meneame.net/m/Mnm/13-grados-13-millas-tragedia-submarino-c4/c015#c-15</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[<p><a class="tooltip c:3739107-1" href="https://www.meneame.net/m/Mnm/13-grados-13-millas-tragedia-submarino-c4/c01#c-1" rel="nofollow">#1</a> llamar C4 a un submarino es tentar a la suerte. Pero llamarte C4 y no morir en una fuerte explosión, es una falta de respeto <img data-src="https://cdn.mnmstatic.net/v_149/img/menemojis/36/lol.gif" alt="xD" title=":lol: xD" width="18" height="18" src="https://cdn.mnmstatic.net/v_149/img/g.gif" class="emoji lazy" /></p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>Nylo</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<meneame:comment_id>36960683</meneame:comment_id>
		<meneame:link_id>3739107</meneame:link_id>
		<meneame:order>14</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>cocolisto</meneame:user>
		<meneame:votes>0</meneame:votes>
		<meneame:karma>20</meneame:karma>
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		<title>#14 13 grados 13 millas. La tragedia del submarino C4</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/m/Mnm/13-grados-13-millas-tragedia-submarino-c4/c014#c-14</link>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Oct 2022 08:53:14 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>cocolisto</dc:creator>
		<guid>https://www.meneame.net/m/Mnm/13-grados-13-millas-tragedia-submarino-c4/c014#c-14</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[<p><a class="tooltip c:3739107-13" href="https://www.meneame.net/m/Mnm/13-grados-13-millas-tragedia-submarino-c4/c013#c-13" rel="nofollow">#13</a> Gracias majo. Que cosas, con lo grande que es el mar y emerger ante un destructor. Ni aposta.</p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>cocolisto</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<meneame:comment_id>36960553</meneame:comment_id>
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		<meneame:order>13</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>Nobby</meneame:user>
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		<title>#13 13 grados 13 millas. La tragedia del submarino C4</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/m/Mnm/13-grados-13-millas-tragedia-submarino-c4/c013#c-13</link>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Oct 2022 08:40:47 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Nobby</dc:creator>
		<guid>https://www.meneame.net/m/Mnm/13-grados-13-millas-tragedia-submarino-c4/c013#c-13</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[<p><a class="tooltip c:3739107-10" href="https://www.meneame.net/m/Mnm/13-grados-13-millas-tragedia-submarino-c4/c010#c-10" rel="nofollow">#10</a> aquí lo amplía un poco, pero dado el secretismo de la época y el que no se haya levantado el secreto sobre las investigaciones del accidente tampoco hay mucho más:<br />
<br />
<a href="https://www.laverdad.es/murcia/cartagena/201702/11/hundimiento-submarino-20170211003953-v.html" title="www.laverdad.es/murcia/cartagena/201702/11/hundimiento-submarino-20170211003953-v.html" rel="nofollow">www.laverdad.es/murcia/cartagena/201702/11/hundimiento-submarino-20170</a><br />
<br />
Pego el párrafo más relevante:<br />
<br />
&#34;<i>Las únicas manifestaciones realizadas por miembros de la Armada a título individual, apuntaban la posibilidad del error humano, por parte del comandante del C-4 que, tras mirar por el periscopio, debió creer erróneamente que los destructores navegaban de forma escalonada, pudiendo emerger entre ellos. Pero al hacerlo, lo hizo sobre la derrota del 'Lepanto'.</i>&#34;</p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>Nobby</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<meneame:comment_id>36960474</meneame:comment_id>
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		<meneame:order>12</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>Deckardio</meneame:user>
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		<meneame:karma>20</meneame:karma>
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		<title>#12 13 grados 13 millas. La tragedia del submarino C4</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/m/Mnm/13-grados-13-millas-tragedia-submarino-c4/c012#c-12</link>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Oct 2022 08:33:24 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Deckardio</dc:creator>
		<guid>https://www.meneame.net/m/Mnm/13-grados-13-millas-tragedia-submarino-c4/c012#c-12</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[<p><a class="tooltip c:3739107-5" href="https://www.meneame.net/m/Mnm/13-grados-13-millas-tragedia-submarino-c4/c05#c-5" rel="nofollow">#5</a> Gracias por la info.</p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>Deckardio</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<meneame:comment_id>36960465</meneame:comment_id>
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		<meneame:order>11</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>Deckardio</meneame:user>
		<meneame:votes>1</meneame:votes>
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		<title>#11 13 grados 13 millas. La tragedia del submarino C4</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/m/Mnm/13-grados-13-millas-tragedia-submarino-c4/c011#c-11</link>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Oct 2022 08:31:58 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Deckardio</dc:creator>
		<guid>https://www.meneame.net/m/Mnm/13-grados-13-millas-tragedia-submarino-c4/c011#c-11</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[<p><a class="tooltip c:3739107-7" href="https://www.meneame.net/m/Mnm/13-grados-13-millas-tragedia-submarino-c4/c07#c-7" rel="nofollow">#7</a> He estado buscando artículos más detallados y de paso recomendar en los comentarios el cómic, que leí ayer y me gustó en parte por la historia, que conocía pero muy someramente, pero no he encontrado ninguno que me convenciera del todo para enviarlo. Realmente parece que es una historia muy poco comentada, en gran medida es posible porque el franquismo echaba mucho olvido a sus cagadas <img data-src="https://cdn.mnmstatic.net/v_149/img/menemojis/36/smiley.png" alt=":-)" title=":-)" width="18" height="18" src="https://cdn.mnmstatic.net/v_149/img/g.gif" class="emoji lazy" /></p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>Deckardio</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<meneame:comment_id>36960383</meneame:comment_id>
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		<meneame:order>10</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>cocolisto</meneame:user>
		<meneame:votes>0</meneame:votes>
		<meneame:karma>20</meneame:karma>
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		<title>#10 13 grados 13 millas. La tragedia del submarino C4</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/m/Mnm/13-grados-13-millas-tragedia-submarino-c4/c010#c-10</link>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Oct 2022 08:22:28 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>cocolisto</dc:creator>
		<guid>https://www.meneame.net/m/Mnm/13-grados-13-millas-tragedia-submarino-c4/c010#c-10</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[<p><a class="tooltip c:3739107-9" href="https://www.meneame.net/m/Mnm/13-grados-13-millas-tragedia-submarino-c4/c09#c-9" rel="nofollow">#9</a> Esperaremos para &#34;sumergirme&#34; en ésta historia.  <img data-src="https://cdn.mnmstatic.net/v_149/img/twemojis/36/1f601.png" alt="{0x1f601}" title="{0x1f601}" width="18" height="18" src="https://cdn.mnmstatic.net/v_149/img/g.gif" class="emoji lazy" /> </p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>cocolisto</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<meneame:comment_id>36960370</meneame:comment_id>
		<meneame:link_id>3739107</meneame:link_id>
		<meneame:order>9</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>Nobby</meneame:user>
		<meneame:votes>1</meneame:votes>
		<meneame:karma>14</meneame:karma>
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		<title>#9 13 grados 13 millas. La tragedia del submarino C4</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/m/Mnm/13-grados-13-millas-tragedia-submarino-c4/c09#c-9</link>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Oct 2022 08:20:40 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Nobby</dc:creator>
		<guid>https://www.meneame.net/m/Mnm/13-grados-13-millas-tragedia-submarino-c4/c09#c-9</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[<p><a class="tooltip c:3739107-8" href="https://www.meneame.net/m/Mnm/13-grados-13-millas-tragedia-submarino-c4/c08#c-8" rel="nofollow">#8</a> &#34;lo que pasó después te sorprenderá... Si compras el cómic&#34; <img data-src="https://cdn.mnmstatic.net/v_149/img/menemojis/36/troll.png" alt=":troll:" title=":troll:" width="18" height="18" src="https://cdn.mnmstatic.net/v_149/img/g.gif" class="emoji lazy" /></p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>Nobby</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<meneame:comment_id>36960349</meneame:comment_id>
		<meneame:link_id>3739107</meneame:link_id>
		<meneame:order>8</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>cocolisto</meneame:user>
		<meneame:votes>0</meneame:votes>
		<meneame:karma>20</meneame:karma>
		<meneame:url>https://www.meneame.net/m/Mnm/13-grados-13-millas-tragedia-submarino-c4</meneame:url>
		<title>#8 13 grados 13 millas. La tragedia del submarino C4</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/m/Mnm/13-grados-13-millas-tragedia-submarino-c4/c08#c-8</link>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Oct 2022 08:18:24 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>cocolisto</dc:creator>
		<guid>https://www.meneame.net/m/Mnm/13-grados-13-millas-tragedia-submarino-c4/c08#c-8</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[<p><a class="tooltip c:3739107-7" href="https://www.meneame.net/m/Mnm/13-grados-13-millas-tragedia-submarino-c4/c07#c-7" rel="nofollow">#7</a> Sí, esperaba algo más de literatura acerca de este incidente absolutamente desconocido por mi.</p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>cocolisto</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<meneame:comment_id>36960314</meneame:comment_id>
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		<meneame:order>7</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>Nobby</meneame:user>
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		<title>#7 13 grados 13 millas. La tragedia del submarino C4</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/m/Mnm/13-grados-13-millas-tragedia-submarino-c4/c07#c-7</link>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Oct 2022 08:14:27 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Nobby</dc:creator>
		<guid>https://www.meneame.net/m/Mnm/13-grados-13-millas-tragedia-submarino-c4/c07#c-7</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[<p>Hummm, no sé cómo valorar esto, entro al artículo esperando encontrar la historia y lo que me encuentro es &#34;se ha publicado un cómic que cuenta la historia&#34;. Más allá de lo que cuenta la entradilla sólo dice que sirvió como correo a Mallorca en la guerra civil... Pues vale...</p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>Nobby</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<meneame:comment_id>36960066</meneame:comment_id>
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		<meneame:order>6</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>--666006--</meneame:user>
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		<title>#6 13 grados 13 millas. La tragedia del submarino C4</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/m/Mnm/13-grados-13-millas-tragedia-submarino-c4/c06#c-6</link>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Oct 2022 07:46:54 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>--666006--</dc:creator>
		<guid>https://www.meneame.net/m/Mnm/13-grados-13-millas-tragedia-submarino-c4/c06#c-6</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[<p>No sé por qué le dieron a varias calles de España el nombre del capitán que cometió semejante cagada.</p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>--666006--</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<meneame:comment_id>36959647</meneame:comment_id>
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		<meneame:order>5</meneame:order>
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		<title>#5 13 grados 13 millas. La tragedia del submarino C4</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/m/Mnm/13-grados-13-millas-tragedia-submarino-c4/c05#c-5</link>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Oct 2022 06:47:20 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>--302145--</dc:creator>
		<guid>https://www.meneame.net/m/Mnm/13-grados-13-millas-tragedia-submarino-c4/c05#c-5</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[<p>[Usuario deshabilitado]</p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>--302145--</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<meneame:comment_id>36959582</meneame:comment_id>
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		<meneame:order>4</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>Deckardio</meneame:user>
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		<title>#4 13 grados 13 millas. La tragedia del submarino C4</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/m/Mnm/13-grados-13-millas-tragedia-submarino-c4/c04#c-4</link>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Oct 2022 06:36:53 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Deckardio</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[<p><a class="tooltip c:3739107-2" href="https://www.meneame.net/m/Mnm/13-grados-13-millas-tragedia-submarino-c4/c02#c-2" rel="nofollow">#2</a> Un placer <img data-src="https://cdn.mnmstatic.net/v_149/img/menemojis/36/smiley.png" alt=":-)" title=":-)" width="18" height="18" src="https://cdn.mnmstatic.net/v_149/img/g.gif" class="emoji lazy" /></p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>Deckardio</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<meneame:comment_id>36959568</meneame:comment_id>
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		<meneame:user>javibaz</meneame:user>
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		<title>#3 13 grados 13 millas. La tragedia del submarino C4</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/m/Mnm/13-grados-13-millas-tragedia-submarino-c4/c03#c-3</link>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Oct 2022 06:35:22 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>javibaz</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[<p>Buen destructor el Lepanto, cumplió con su función</p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>javibaz</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<meneame:comment_id>36959553</meneame:comment_id>
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		<meneame:order>2</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>Hangdog</meneame:user>
		<meneame:votes>3</meneame:votes>
		<meneame:karma>49</meneame:karma>
		<meneame:url>https://www.meneame.net/m/Mnm/13-grados-13-millas-tragedia-submarino-c4</meneame:url>
		<title>#2 13 grados 13 millas. La tragedia del submarino C4</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/m/Mnm/13-grados-13-millas-tragedia-submarino-c4/c02#c-2</link>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Oct 2022 06:34:01 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Hangdog</dc:creator>
		<guid>https://www.meneame.net/m/Mnm/13-grados-13-millas-tragedia-submarino-c4/c02#c-2</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[<p>Muy interesante, gracias <a class="tooltip l:3739107" href="https://www.meneame.net/m/Mnm/13-grados-13-millas-tragedia-submarino-c4" rel="nofollow">#0</a></p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>Hangdog</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<meneame:comment_id>36959385</meneame:comment_id>
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		<meneame:order>1</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>Deckardio</meneame:user>
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		<meneame:karma>96</meneame:karma>
		<meneame:url>https://www.meneame.net/m/Mnm/13-grados-13-millas-tragedia-submarino-c4</meneame:url>
		<title>#1 13 grados 13 millas. La tragedia del submarino C4</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/m/Mnm/13-grados-13-millas-tragedia-submarino-c4/c01#c-1</link>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Oct 2022 06:06:24 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Deckardio</dc:creator>
		<guid>https://www.meneame.net/m/Mnm/13-grados-13-millas-tragedia-submarino-c4/c01#c-1</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[<p>El C4 tuvo además durante la Guerra Civil el papel de correo submarino en el bando republicano:<br />
<br />
<a href="https://elviejofilatelista.blogspot.com/2013/03/el-primer-correo-submarino.html" title="elviejofilatelista.blogspot.com/2013/03/el-primer-correo-submarino.html" rel="nofollow">elviejofilatelista.blogspot.com/2013/03/el-primer-correo-submarino.htm</a></p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>Deckardio</strong></p>]]></description>
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