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		<title>#7 Pavel Durov y el estado actual de internet</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 12 Oct 2025 18:11:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[<p>curioso que sólo menciona países europeos cuando es bien sabido que EEUU y Rusia ejercen un control infinitamente mayor en las redes sociales</p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>tolocoth</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<meneame:comment_id>43651753</meneame:comment_id>
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		<title>#6 Pavel Durov y el estado actual de internet</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/m/HEMEROTECA/pavel-durov-estado-actual-internet/c06#c-6</link>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Oct 2025 22:24:27 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>suppiluliuma</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[<p>Gracias a Dios que aquí está el bueno de Pavel para protegernos del intrusismo del estado.<br />
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<a href="https://meduza.io/en/brief/2024/08/28/the-real-russia-today" title="meduza.io/en/brief/2024/08/28/the-real-russia-today" rel="nofollow">Leaked documents show Pavel Durov secretly visited Russia dozens of times after moving away</a><br />
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<i>Pavel Durov, the Russian tech mogul arrested in Paris on Saturday, has traveled to Russia more than 50 times since moving away from the country a decade ago, iStories reported on Tuesday, citing leaked border crossing data from Russia’s Federal Security Service (FSB).</i><br />
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<i><b>The Russian authorities banned Telegram in April 2018 but were unable to block users from accessing it.</b><br />
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Durov next returned to Russia in the summer of 2020, soon after a U.S. court blocked Telegram from launching a cryptocurrency called Gram. On June 4, <b>Durov wrote on his channel that he would welcome a removal of the Kremlin’s block on the app and that its administrators had begun removing “extremist propaganda”</b> (Moscow’s stated reason for banning the service) more actively. He vowed to support the Russian authorities if they wanted to fight terrorism without violating citizens’ right to secrecy of correspondence.<br />
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<b>On June 18, 2020, Russia’s federal censorship agency announced that it was “unblocking” Telegram in light of Durov’s “stated willingness to counteract terrorism and extremism.”</b> That evening, the billionaire flew out of Russia from St. Petersburg. Over the next year and a half, he visited Russia multiple times, with his last visit in October 2021. During this period, iStories notes, <b>Telegram blocked Alexey Navalny’s Smart Voting bot (designed to help Russians mobilize against ruling party candidates), and other opposition tools ahead of the September 2021 State Duma elections.</b></i><br />
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Parece que el bueno de Pavel sabe mucho de la interferencia del estado en la libertad individual. <img data-src="https://cdn.mnmstatic.net/v_149/img/menemojis/36/troll.png" alt=":troll:" title=":troll:" width="18" height="18" src="https://cdn.mnmstatic.net/v_149/img/g.gif" class="emoji lazy" /></p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>suppiluliuma</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<title>#5 Pavel Durov y el estado actual de internet</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Oct 2025 20:32:44 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>YoSoyTuPadre</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[<p>Es curioso como unas buenas palabra quedan manchadas por meter el tema moral y la biología, le faltó poner que la censura de Internet <b>es culpa de los woke</b> <img data-src="https://cdn.mnmstatic.net/v_149/img/menemojis/36/palm.png" alt=":palm:" title=":palm:" width="18" height="18" src="https://cdn.mnmstatic.net/v_149/img/g.gif" class="emoji lazy" /><br />
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Joder, y este zumbao se supone que va a liderar la defensa de nuestras libertades<br />
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En fin, cosas veredes Sanxo... yo ya me doy por vencido</p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>YoSoyTuPadre</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<title>#4 Pavel Durov y el estado actual de internet</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Oct 2025 20:26:46 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>ElBeaver</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[<p>Todo lo que sea necesario para proteger a los niños. <img data-src="https://cdn.mnmstatic.net/v_149/img/menemojis/36/troll.png" alt=":troll:" title=":troll:" width="18" height="18" src="https://cdn.mnmstatic.net/v_149/img/g.gif" class="emoji lazy" /></p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>ElBeaver</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<title>#3 Pavel Durov y el estado actual de internet</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Oct 2025 20:06:41 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>pepel</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[<p><a class="tooltip l:4105767" href="https://www.meneame.net/m/HEMEROTECA/pavel-durov-estado-actual-internet" rel="nofollow">#0</a> <a href="https://www.meneame.net/story/acaba-tiempo-salvar-internet-libre-advierte-pavel-durov" title="www.meneame.net/story/acaba-tiempo-salvar-internet-libre-advierte-pavel-durov" rel="nofollow">www.meneame.net/story/acaba-tiempo-salvar-internet-libre-advierte-pave</a></p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>pepel</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<meneame:comment_id>43651229</meneame:comment_id>
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		<title>#2 Pavel Durov y el estado actual de internet</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Oct 2025 20:03:47 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>cocolisto</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[<p><a class="tooltip c:4105767-1" href="https://www.meneame.net/m/HEMEROTECA/pavel-durov-estado-actual-internet/c01#c-1" rel="nofollow">#1</a> Gracias,se me ha pasado  <img data-src="https://cdn.mnmstatic.net/v_149/img/twemojis/36/1f60a.png" alt="{0x1f60a}" title="{0x1f60a}" width="18" height="18" src="https://cdn.mnmstatic.net/v_149/img/g.gif" class="emoji lazy" /> </p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>cocolisto</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<meneame:comment_id>43651193</meneame:comment_id>
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		<meneame:user>jonolulu</meneame:user>
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		<title>#1 Pavel Durov y el estado actual de internet</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Oct 2025 19:58:03 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>jonolulu</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[<p>Enlace al contenido original<br />
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<a href="https://t.me/durov/452" title="t.me/durov/452" rel="nofollow">t.me/durov/452</a></p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>jonolulu</strong></p>]]></description>
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