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		<meneame:order>34</meneame:order>
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		<title>#34 Vista no detecta el 84% del spyware</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 03 Feb 2007 10:26:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[<p>[Usuario deshabilitado]</p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>--14371--</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<meneame:comment_id>370992</meneame:comment_id>
		<meneame:link_id>88728</meneame:link_id>
		<meneame:order>33</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>dreidel</meneame:user>
		<meneame:votes>0</meneame:votes>
		<meneame:karma>6</meneame:karma>
		<meneame:url>https://www.meneame.net/story/vista-no-detecta-84-spyware</meneame:url>
		<title>#33 Vista no detecta el 84% del spyware</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/vista-no-detecta-84-spyware/c033#c-33</link>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Feb 2007 22:45:45 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>dreidel</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[<p>Yo creo que el titular debería ser que Windows Vista ha detectado el 16% del spyware. La verdad es que eso me sorprende.</p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>dreidel</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<meneame:comment_id>370984</meneame:comment_id>
		<meneame:link_id>88728</meneame:link_id>
		<meneame:order>32</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>sickboy</meneame:user>
		<meneame:votes>2</meneame:votes>
		<meneame:karma>24</meneame:karma>
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		<title>#32 Vista no detecta el 84% del spyware</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/vista-no-detecta-84-spyware/c032#c-32</link>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Feb 2007 22:43:25 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>sickboy</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[<p>pero vosotros os habeis leido la noticia? o solo comentais por hacer algo?<br />
<br />
&#34;Uno de los Programas Potencialmente no Deseados que se analizó fue capaz de instalarse –&#62; bajo privilegios de administrador &#60;–, para grabar las pulsaciones de teclado sin ninguna adaptación del sistema operativo Windows® XP. Defender no detectó ni la instalación ni la aplicación una vez ejecutada.&#34;<br />
<br />
y que coño esperais? que si sois root y os intentais instalar algo el sistema os diga que no podeis? root es mayorcito como para saber lo que quiere, y no necesita que nadie le prohiba hacer nada :3<br />
<br />
esa estadistica es absurda, windows defender es una proteccion bastante cutre, casera, y que probablemente se defienda bien contra spyware y cosas asi (en userland), pero pretender que sea una defensa firme una vez ya estas infectado es ridiculo</p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>sickboy</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<meneame:comment_id>370929</meneame:comment_id>
		<meneame:link_id>88728</meneame:link_id>
		<meneame:order>31</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>--7172--</meneame:user>
		<meneame:votes>4</meneame:votes>
		<meneame:karma>-27</meneame:karma>
		<meneame:url>https://www.meneame.net/story/vista-no-detecta-84-spyware</meneame:url>
		<title>#31 Vista no detecta el 84% del spyware</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/vista-no-detecta-84-spyware/c031#c-31</link>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Feb 2007 22:10:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[<p><a class="tooltip c:88728-28" href="https://www.meneame.net/story/vista-no-detecta-84-spyware/c028#c-28" rel="nofollow">#28</a> si esa noticia te parece imparcial,me quedo mas a gusto si me votas negativo,y si puedes un par de veces,mejor.</p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>--7172--</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<meneame:comment_id>370891</meneame:comment_id>
		<meneame:link_id>88728</meneame:link_id>
		<meneame:order>30</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>--11273--</meneame:user>
		<meneame:votes>1</meneame:votes>
		<meneame:karma>18</meneame:karma>
		<meneame:url>https://www.meneame.net/story/vista-no-detecta-84-spyware</meneame:url>
		<title>#30 Vista no detecta el 84% del spyware</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/vista-no-detecta-84-spyware/c030#c-30</link>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Feb 2007 21:47:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[<p><a class="tooltip c:88728-29" href="https://www.meneame.net/story/vista-no-detecta-84-spyware/c029#c-29" rel="nofollow">#29</a> Hipocresía si uno mismo lo fuese a instalar en su PC. Pero como no es el caso (por lo menos en el mío)...<br />
Y qué pena me dan los que se han instalado el Windows Vista (sobre todo los jugones). <img data-src="https://cdn.mnmstatic.net/v_149/img/menemojis/36/lol.gif" alt="xD" title=":lol: xD" width="18" height="18" src="https://cdn.mnmstatic.net/v_149/img/g.gif" class="emoji lazy" /></p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>--11273--</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<meneame:comment_id>370849</meneame:comment_id>
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		<meneame:order>29</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>akilespan</meneame:user>
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		<meneame:karma>-17</meneame:karma>
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		<title>#29 Vista no detecta el 84% del spyware</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/vista-no-detecta-84-spyware/c029#c-29</link>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Feb 2007 21:24:46 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>akilespan</dc:creator>
		<guid>https://www.meneame.net/story/vista-no-detecta-84-spyware/c029#c-29</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[<p>Ya es cansino, siempre hablando mal del Vista, pero despues todos lo tendran instalado en el pc, vaya hipocresia...</p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>akilespan</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<meneame:comment_id>370813</meneame:comment_id>
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		<meneame:order>28</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>quijote3000</meneame:user>
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		<title>#28 Vista no detecta el 84% del spyware</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/vista-no-detecta-84-spyware/c028#c-28</link>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Feb 2007 21:08:13 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>quijote3000</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[<p><a class="tooltip c:88728-25" href="https://www.meneame.net/story/vista-no-detecta-84-spyware/c025#c-25" rel="nofollow">#25</a> Antes de votarte negativo estuve viendo bien la noticia, para no equivocarme. Una vez visto te voto negativo, porque me parece que la noticia no es un panfleto sino que cita bien las fuentes, está bien explicado y parece imparcial. Otra cosa sea que webroot se equivoque, pero parece el informe bien realizado.<br />
PD: Muy buenos los chistes al principio.</p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>quijote3000</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<meneame:comment_id>370795</meneame:comment_id>
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		<meneame:order>27</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>TaDeuS</meneame:user>
		<meneame:votes>1</meneame:votes>
		<meneame:karma>12</meneame:karma>
		<meneame:url>https://www.meneame.net/story/vista-no-detecta-84-spyware</meneame:url>
		<title>#27 Vista no detecta el 84% del spyware</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/vista-no-detecta-84-spyware/c027#c-27</link>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Feb 2007 20:59:51 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>TaDeuS</dc:creator>
		<guid>https://www.meneame.net/story/vista-no-detecta-84-spyware/c027#c-27</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[<p>Un poco cansino ya el tema...</p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>TaDeuS</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<meneame:comment_id>370786</meneame:comment_id>
		<meneame:link_id>88728</meneame:link_id>
		<meneame:order>26</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>Enric</meneame:user>
		<meneame:votes>1</meneame:votes>
		<meneame:karma>10</meneame:karma>
		<meneame:url>https://www.meneame.net/story/vista-no-detecta-84-spyware</meneame:url>
		<title>#26 Vista no detecta el 84% del spyware</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/vista-no-detecta-84-spyware/c026#c-26</link>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Feb 2007 20:54:50 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Enric</dc:creator>
		<guid>https://www.meneame.net/story/vista-no-detecta-84-spyware/c026#c-26</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[<p>Qué fácil es criticar 6 años de trabajo dando por entendidas muchas cosas, como <a class="tooltip c:88728-3" href="https://www.meneame.net/story/vista-no-detecta-84-spyware/c03#c-3" rel="nofollow">#3</a>... Es absurdo criticar sin argumentos...</p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>Enric</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<meneame:comment_id>370682</meneame:comment_id>
		<meneame:link_id>88728</meneame:link_id>
		<meneame:order>25</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>--7172--</meneame:user>
		<meneame:votes>9</meneame:votes>
		<meneame:karma>-37</meneame:karma>
		<meneame:url>https://www.meneame.net/story/vista-no-detecta-84-spyware</meneame:url>
		<title>#25 Vista no detecta el 84% del spyware</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/vista-no-detecta-84-spyware/c025#c-25</link>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Feb 2007 19:53:09 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>--7172--</dc:creator>
		<guid>https://www.meneame.net/story/vista-no-detecta-84-spyware/c025#c-25</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[<p><a class="tooltip c:88728-23" href="https://www.meneame.net/story/vista-no-detecta-84-spyware/c023#c-23" rel="nofollow">#23</a> Que el &#34;estudio&#34; sea partidista  e interesado no cuenta si se trata de poner &#34;mal&#34; a microsoft .Es un matiz menor , claro que si fuese a la inversa , los malosos de microsoft compran consultoras para venderla como les viene.<br />
<br />
Como bien dices  , windows defender es una evolucion de ese software , y ,al menos cuando yo lo use por ultima vez , era de lo mejor que había.<br />
<br />
Y en cuanto al panfleto de la noticia , en primer lugar,  no me lo creo. <br />
Y en segundo , si yo pruebo el tal spy sweeper (ponga aqui su software,so preferido) y encuentro o creo un spyware que no detecte..¿ya puedo decir que el spy sweeper no detecta el 100% del spyware?<br />
<br />
Vista no detecta el 84% del spyware , panfleto anti windows partidista ,inexacto ,engañoso (y en mi opinion de dudosa veracidad) , en portada...The meneame style</p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>--7172--</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<meneame:comment_id>370672</meneame:comment_id>
		<meneame:link_id>88728</meneame:link_id>
		<meneame:order>24</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>aquihubounusuario</meneame:user>
		<meneame:votes>4</meneame:votes>
		<meneame:karma>20</meneame:karma>
		<meneame:url>https://www.meneame.net/story/vista-no-detecta-84-spyware</meneame:url>
		<title>#24 Vista no detecta el 84% del spyware</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/vista-no-detecta-84-spyware/c024#c-24</link>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Feb 2007 19:46:30 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>aquihubounusuario</dc:creator>
		<guid>https://www.meneame.net/story/vista-no-detecta-84-spyware/c024#c-24</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[<p>Según la AVT, el 114%.</p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>aquihubounusuario</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<meneame:comment_id>370612</meneame:comment_id>
		<meneame:link_id>88728</meneame:link_id>
		<meneame:order>23</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>instantes</meneame:user>
		<meneame:votes>5</meneame:votes>
		<meneame:karma>35</meneame:karma>
		<meneame:url>https://www.meneame.net/story/vista-no-detecta-84-spyware</meneame:url>
		<title>#23 Vista no detecta el 84% del spyware</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/vista-no-detecta-84-spyware/c023#c-23</link>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Feb 2007 19:09:05 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>instantes</dc:creator>
		<guid>https://www.meneame.net/story/vista-no-detecta-84-spyware/c023#c-23</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[<p>Esta noticia hay que ponerla en cuarentena porque el informe en el que se basa está elaborado por Webroot que, sorpresa, es la compañia responsable de Spy Sweeper (otro antispyware), es decir, de la competencia.<br />
Windows Defender es una versión evolucionada de Giant Antispyware (que MS compró). Por entonces era uno de los mejores antispyware.<br />
No digo que el informe no pueda tener razón, pero hay que tomarselo con cautela.</p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>instantes</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<meneame:comment_id>370608</meneame:comment_id>
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		<meneame:user>--9525--</meneame:user>
		<meneame:votes>3</meneame:votes>
		<meneame:karma>27</meneame:karma>
		<meneame:url>https://www.meneame.net/story/vista-no-detecta-84-spyware</meneame:url>
		<title>#22 Vista no detecta el 84% del spyware</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/vista-no-detecta-84-spyware/c022#c-22</link>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Feb 2007 19:04:43 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>--9525--</dc:creator>
		<guid>https://www.meneame.net/story/vista-no-detecta-84-spyware/c022#c-22</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[<p>[Usuario deshabilitado]</p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>--9525--</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<meneame:comment_id>370590</meneame:comment_id>
		<meneame:link_id>88728</meneame:link_id>
		<meneame:order>21</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>--24249--</meneame:user>
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		<meneame:karma>25</meneame:karma>
		<meneame:url>https://www.meneame.net/story/vista-no-detecta-84-spyware</meneame:url>
		<title>#21 Vista no detecta el 84% del spyware</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/vista-no-detecta-84-spyware/c021#c-21</link>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Feb 2007 18:55:08 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>--24249--</dc:creator>
		<guid>https://www.meneame.net/story/vista-no-detecta-84-spyware/c021#c-21</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[<p>[Usuario deshabilitado]</p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>--24249--</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<meneame:comment_id>370588</meneame:comment_id>
		<meneame:link_id>88728</meneame:link_id>
		<meneame:order>20</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>kernelspace</meneame:user>
		<meneame:votes>3</meneame:votes>
		<meneame:karma>18</meneame:karma>
		<meneame:url>https://www.meneame.net/story/vista-no-detecta-84-spyware</meneame:url>
		<title>#20 Vista no detecta el 84% del spyware</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/vista-no-detecta-84-spyware/c020#c-20</link>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Feb 2007 18:54:46 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>kernelspace</dc:creator>
		<guid>https://www.meneame.net/story/vista-no-detecta-84-spyware/c020#c-20</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[<p>&#34;Windows Vista™ fue incapaz de detectar amenazas de varios tipos, como adware, Programas Potencialmente no Deseados (PUPs), monitores de sistema, espías de teclado y troyanos.&#34;<br />
<br />
&#34;Uno de los Programas Potencialmente no Deseados que se analizó fue capaz de instalarse bajo privilegios de administrador, para grabar las pulsaciones de teclado sin ninguna adaptación del sistema operativo Windows® XP. Defender no detectó ni la instalación ni la aplicación una vez ejecutada.&#34;<br />
<br />
Guau Menuda innovación<br />
<br />
Emmmm... Sin comentarios.</p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>kernelspace</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<meneame:comment_id>370587</meneame:comment_id>
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		<meneame:order>19</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>reygecko</meneame:user>
		<meneame:votes>4</meneame:votes>
		<meneame:karma>35</meneame:karma>
		<meneame:url>https://www.meneame.net/story/vista-no-detecta-84-spyware</meneame:url>
		<title>#19 Vista no detecta el 84% del spyware</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/vista-no-detecta-84-spyware/c019#c-19</link>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Feb 2007 18:54:41 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>reygecko</dc:creator>
		<guid>https://www.meneame.net/story/vista-no-detecta-84-spyware/c019#c-19</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[<p>En efecto, <a class="tooltip c:88728-14" href="https://www.meneame.net/story/vista-no-detecta-84-spyware/c014#c-14" rel="nofollow">#14</a> estás equivocado.  Yo no te voto negativo porque pienso que lo que ocurre es que no estás informado en concreto de ese punto, así que en vez de castigar karmas ajenos, creo que lo mejor es ayudarte a tener información al respecto: <a href="http://www.microsoft.com/latam/technet/windowsvista/seguridad/protmal3.mspx" title="www.microsoft.com/latam/technet/windowsvista/seguridad/protmal3.mspx" rel="nofollow">www.microsoft.com/latam/technet/windowsvista/seguridad/protmal3.mspx</a><br />
<br />
Y después de leerlo, pero sólo después, a ver si sigues diciendo que no es culpa del Vista <img data-src="https://cdn.mnmstatic.net/v_149/img/menemojis/36/wink.png" alt=";)" title=";)" width="18" height="18" src="https://cdn.mnmstatic.net/v_149/img/g.gif" class="emoji lazy" /> Saludetes.</p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>reygecko</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<meneame:comment_id>370573</meneame:comment_id>
		<meneame:link_id>88728</meneame:link_id>
		<meneame:order>18</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>ecocat</meneame:user>
		<meneame:votes>3</meneame:votes>
		<meneame:karma>28</meneame:karma>
		<meneame:url>https://www.meneame.net/story/vista-no-detecta-84-spyware</meneame:url>
		<title>#18 Vista no detecta el 84% del spyware</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/vista-no-detecta-84-spyware/c018#c-18</link>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Feb 2007 18:45:13 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>ecocat</dc:creator>
		<guid>https://www.meneame.net/story/vista-no-detecta-84-spyware/c018#c-18</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[<p><a class="tooltip c:88728-14" href="https://www.meneame.net/story/vista-no-detecta-84-spyware/c014#c-14" rel="nofollow">#14</a> no creo que la gente sea amarillista en el sentido que tu dices, pero tu tonto un rato ...<br />
<br />
Defender es parte del sistema operativo.<br />
 ¿que pasa que si te venden un coche y el motor es una mierda, no puedes decir que el coche es una mierda¿?<br />
<br />
a la gente le gusta usar lo que compra y tal como se lo venden, no hay más a mi un coche sin motor no me sirve de mucho ...<br />
<br />
saludos, supongo que tendrás 15 años ...</p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>ecocat</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<meneame:comment_id>370563</meneame:comment_id>
		<meneame:link_id>88728</meneame:link_id>
		<meneame:order>17</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>--18297--</meneame:user>
		<meneame:votes>0</meneame:votes>
		<meneame:karma>6</meneame:karma>
		<meneame:url>https://www.meneame.net/story/vista-no-detecta-84-spyware</meneame:url>
		<title>#17 Vista no detecta el 84% del spyware</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/vista-no-detecta-84-spyware/c017#c-17</link>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Feb 2007 18:42:50 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>--18297--</dc:creator>
		<guid>https://www.meneame.net/story/vista-no-detecta-84-spyware/c017#c-17</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[<p>[Usuario deshabilitado]</p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>--18297--</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<meneame:comment_id>370549</meneame:comment_id>
		<meneame:link_id>88728</meneame:link_id>
		<meneame:order>16</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>Sandevil</meneame:user>
		<meneame:votes>6</meneame:votes>
		<meneame:karma>29</meneame:karma>
		<meneame:url>https://www.meneame.net/story/vista-no-detecta-84-spyware</meneame:url>
		<title>#16 Vista no detecta el 84% del spyware</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/vista-no-detecta-84-spyware/c016#c-16</link>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Feb 2007 18:36:31 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Sandevil</dc:creator>
		<guid>https://www.meneame.net/story/vista-no-detecta-84-spyware/c016#c-16</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[<p><a class="tooltip c:88728-14" href="https://www.meneame.net/story/vista-no-detecta-84-spyware/c014#c-14" rel="nofollow">#14</a> Ya, pero defender lo venden como una de las grandes novedades de windows Vista, y esas novedades son las que usan para justificar sus precios abusivos...<br />
<br />
Sinceramente, el vista es el nuevo Me.</p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>Sandevil</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<meneame:comment_id>370544</meneame:comment_id>
		<meneame:link_id>88728</meneame:link_id>
		<meneame:order>15</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>elverdezlomejor</meneame:user>
		<meneame:votes>4</meneame:votes>
		<meneame:karma>29</meneame:karma>
		<meneame:url>https://www.meneame.net/story/vista-no-detecta-84-spyware</meneame:url>
		<title>#15 Vista no detecta el 84% del spyware</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/vista-no-detecta-84-spyware/c015#c-15</link>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Feb 2007 18:35:16 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>elverdezlomejor</dc:creator>
		<guid>https://www.meneame.net/story/vista-no-detecta-84-spyware/c015#c-15</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[<p><a class="tooltip c:88728-14" href="https://www.meneame.net/story/vista-no-detecta-84-spyware/c014#c-14" rel="nofollow">#14</a>, A ver si lo he entendido:<br />
Si el IE7 que incluye Windows Vista tiene 25 bugs, según tú, ¿no podríamos decir que Windows Vista tiene 25 bugs?</p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>elverdezlomejor</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<meneame:comment_id>370541</meneame:comment_id>
		<meneame:link_id>88728</meneame:link_id>
		<meneame:order>14</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>--14371--</meneame:user>
		<meneame:votes>29</meneame:votes>
		<meneame:karma>-148</meneame:karma>
		<meneame:url>https://www.meneame.net/story/vista-no-detecta-84-spyware</meneame:url>
		<title>#14 Vista no detecta el 84% del spyware</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/vista-no-detecta-84-spyware/c014#c-14</link>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Feb 2007 18:33:19 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>--14371--</dc:creator>
		<guid>https://www.meneame.net/story/vista-no-detecta-84-spyware/c014#c-14</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[<p>[Usuario deshabilitado]</p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>--14371--</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<meneame:comment_id>370538</meneame:comment_id>
		<meneame:link_id>88728</meneame:link_id>
		<meneame:order>13</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>kernelspace</meneame:user>
		<meneame:votes>7</meneame:votes>
		<meneame:karma>28</meneame:karma>
		<meneame:url>https://www.meneame.net/story/vista-no-detecta-84-spyware</meneame:url>
		<title>#13 Vista no detecta el 84% del spyware</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/vista-no-detecta-84-spyware/c013#c-13</link>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Feb 2007 18:33:11 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>kernelspace</dc:creator>
		<guid>https://www.meneame.net/story/vista-no-detecta-84-spyware/c013#c-13</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[<p>¡Gracias a GNU/Linux que nos ha liberado de la tribulacion y las angustias de M$!</p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>kernelspace</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<meneame:comment_id>370531</meneame:comment_id>
		<meneame:link_id>88728</meneame:link_id>
		<meneame:order>12</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>--18297--</meneame:user>
		<meneame:votes>6</meneame:votes>
		<meneame:karma>-13</meneame:karma>
		<meneame:url>https://www.meneame.net/story/vista-no-detecta-84-spyware</meneame:url>
		<title>#12 Vista no detecta el 84% del spyware</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/vista-no-detecta-84-spyware/c012#c-12</link>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Feb 2007 18:28:30 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>--18297--</dc:creator>
		<guid>https://www.meneame.net/story/vista-no-detecta-84-spyware/c012#c-12</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[<p>[Usuario deshabilitado]</p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>--18297--</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<meneame:comment_id>370526</meneame:comment_id>
		<meneame:link_id>88728</meneame:link_id>
		<meneame:order>11</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>elverdezlomejor</meneame:user>
		<meneame:votes>2</meneame:votes>
		<meneame:karma>10</meneame:karma>
		<meneame:url>https://www.meneame.net/story/vista-no-detecta-84-spyware</meneame:url>
		<title>#11 Vista no detecta el 84% del spyware</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/vista-no-detecta-84-spyware/c011#c-11</link>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Feb 2007 18:27:49 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>elverdezlomejor</dc:creator>
		<guid>https://www.meneame.net/story/vista-no-detecta-84-spyware/c011#c-11</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[<p>Tristemente, nada nuevo bajo el sol.</p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>elverdezlomejor</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<meneame:comment_id>370519</meneame:comment_id>
		<meneame:link_id>88728</meneame:link_id>
		<meneame:order>10</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>reygecko</meneame:user>
		<meneame:votes>9</meneame:votes>
		<meneame:karma>62</meneame:karma>
		<meneame:url>https://www.meneame.net/story/vista-no-detecta-84-spyware</meneame:url>
		<title>#10 Vista no detecta el 84% del spyware</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/vista-no-detecta-84-spyware/c010#c-10</link>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Feb 2007 18:24:58 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>reygecko</dc:creator>
		<guid>https://www.meneame.net/story/vista-no-detecta-84-spyware/c010#c-10</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[<p>En efecto, como dice <a class="tooltip c:88728-8" href="https://www.meneame.net/story/vista-no-detecta-84-spyware/c08#c-8" rel="nofollow">#8</a> Windows es un spyware gigante.  Parte del código es compilado por la National Security Agency de EE.UU. como se puede ver aquí: <a href="http://www.heise.de/tp/r4/artikel/5/5263/1.html" title="www.heise.de/tp/r4/artikel/5/5263/1.html" rel="nofollow">www.heise.de/tp/r4/artikel/5/5263/1.html</a><br />
<br />
El que aVISTA no es traidor, es aVISTAdor <img data-src="https://cdn.mnmstatic.net/v_149/img/menemojis/36/wink.png" alt=";)" title=";)" width="18" height="18" src="https://cdn.mnmstatic.net/v_149/img/g.gif" class="emoji lazy" /></p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>reygecko</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<meneame:comment_id>370477</meneame:comment_id>
		<meneame:link_id>88728</meneame:link_id>
		<meneame:order>9</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>--14217--</meneame:user>
		<meneame:votes>23</meneame:votes>
		<meneame:karma>132</meneame:karma>
		<meneame:url>https://www.meneame.net/story/vista-no-detecta-84-spyware</meneame:url>
		<title>#9 Vista no detecta el 84% del spyware</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/vista-no-detecta-84-spyware/c09#c-9</link>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Feb 2007 18:09:25 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>--14217--</dc:creator>
		<guid>https://www.meneame.net/story/vista-no-detecta-84-spyware/c09#c-9</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[<p>[Usuario deshabilitado]</p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>--14217--</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<meneame:comment_id>370475</meneame:comment_id>
		<meneame:link_id>88728</meneame:link_id>
		<meneame:order>8</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>--8552--</meneame:user>
		<meneame:votes>5</meneame:votes>
		<meneame:karma>22</meneame:karma>
		<meneame:url>https://www.meneame.net/story/vista-no-detecta-84-spyware</meneame:url>
		<title>#8 Vista no detecta el 84% del spyware</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/vista-no-detecta-84-spyware/c08#c-8</link>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Feb 2007 18:08:21 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>--8552--</dc:creator>
		<guid>https://www.meneame.net/story/vista-no-detecta-84-spyware/c08#c-8</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[<p>¡¡¡Pero si Windows es un Spyware gigante!!! No debería sorprender la noticia</p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>--8552--</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<meneame:comment_id>370467</meneame:comment_id>
		<meneame:link_id>88728</meneame:link_id>
		<meneame:order>7</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>Censurado</meneame:user>
		<meneame:votes>8</meneame:votes>
		<meneame:karma>60</meneame:karma>
		<meneame:url>https://www.meneame.net/story/vista-no-detecta-84-spyware</meneame:url>
		<title>#7 Vista no detecta el 84% del spyware</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/vista-no-detecta-84-spyware/c07#c-7</link>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Feb 2007 18:04:30 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Censurado</dc:creator>
		<guid>https://www.meneame.net/story/vista-no-detecta-84-spyware/c07#c-7</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[<p>¿Que un producto nuevo de microsoft es caro, ineficaz, lento, inseguro y abusivo con sus clientes es noticia?<br />
<br />
Mañana pondre &#34;El Agua Moja&#34;... a ver que tal <img data-src="https://cdn.mnmstatic.net/v_149/img/menemojis/36/lol.gif" alt="xD" title=":lol: xD" width="18" height="18" src="https://cdn.mnmstatic.net/v_149/img/g.gif" class="emoji lazy" /></p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>Censurado</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<meneame:comment_id>370465</meneame:comment_id>
		<meneame:link_id>88728</meneame:link_id>
		<meneame:order>6</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>--14217--</meneame:user>
		<meneame:votes>4</meneame:votes>
		<meneame:karma>10</meneame:karma>
		<meneame:url>https://www.meneame.net/story/vista-no-detecta-84-spyware</meneame:url>
		<title>#6 Vista no detecta el 84% del spyware</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/vista-no-detecta-84-spyware/c06#c-6</link>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Feb 2007 18:04:03 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>--14217--</dc:creator>
		<guid>https://www.meneame.net/story/vista-no-detecta-84-spyware/c06#c-6</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[<p>[Usuario deshabilitado]</p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>--14217--</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<meneame:comment_id>370440</meneame:comment_id>
		<meneame:link_id>88728</meneame:link_id>
		<meneame:order>5</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>natrix</meneame:user>
		<meneame:votes>30</meneame:votes>
		<meneame:karma>230</meneame:karma>
		<meneame:url>https://www.meneame.net/story/vista-no-detecta-84-spyware</meneame:url>
		<title>#5 Vista no detecta el 84% del spyware</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/vista-no-detecta-84-spyware/c05#c-5</link>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Feb 2007 17:50:10 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>natrix</dc:creator>
		<guid>https://www.meneame.net/story/vista-no-detecta-84-spyware/c05#c-5</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[<p>El otro 16% viene &#34;de serie&#34;.</p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>natrix</strong></p>]]></description>
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	<item>
		<meneame:comment_id>370439</meneame:comment_id>
		<meneame:link_id>88728</meneame:link_id>
		<meneame:order>4</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>boalar</meneame:user>
		<meneame:votes>30</meneame:votes>
		<meneame:karma>240</meneame:karma>
		<meneame:url>https://www.meneame.net/story/vista-no-detecta-84-spyware</meneame:url>
		<title>#4 Vista no detecta el 84% del spyware</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/vista-no-detecta-84-spyware/c04#c-4</link>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Feb 2007 17:49:24 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>boalar</dc:creator>
		<guid>https://www.meneame.net/story/vista-no-detecta-84-spyware/c04#c-4</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[<p>Por lo menos ya sabemos que hay programas que sí funcionan con win vista.</p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>boalar</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<meneame:comment_id>370432</meneame:comment_id>
		<meneame:link_id>88728</meneame:link_id>
		<meneame:order>3</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>kavra</meneame:user>
		<meneame:votes>0</meneame:votes>
		<meneame:karma>10</meneame:karma>
		<meneame:url>https://www.meneame.net/story/vista-no-detecta-84-spyware</meneame:url>
		<title>#3 Vista no detecta el 84% del spyware</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/vista-no-detecta-84-spyware/c03#c-3</link>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Feb 2007 17:44:45 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>kavra</dc:creator>
		<guid>https://www.meneame.net/story/vista-no-detecta-84-spyware/c03#c-3</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[<p>Que novedad</p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>kavra</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<meneame:comment_id>370424</meneame:comment_id>
		<meneame:link_id>88728</meneame:link_id>
		<meneame:order>2</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>precision220</meneame:user>
		<meneame:votes>4</meneame:votes>
		<meneame:karma>36</meneame:karma>
		<meneame:url>https://www.meneame.net/story/vista-no-detecta-84-spyware</meneame:url>
		<title>#2 Vista no detecta el 84% del spyware</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/vista-no-detecta-84-spyware/c02#c-2</link>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Feb 2007 17:41:51 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>precision220</dc:creator>
		<guid>https://www.meneame.net/story/vista-no-detecta-84-spyware/c02#c-2</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[<p>Y digo yo, a alguien de verdad le sorprende esto ?</p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>precision220</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<meneame:comment_id>370411</meneame:comment_id>
		<meneame:link_id>88728</meneame:link_id>
		<meneame:order>1</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>vostorga</meneame:user>
		<meneame:votes>7</meneame:votes>
		<meneame:karma>-4</meneame:karma>
		<meneame:url>https://www.meneame.net/story/vista-no-detecta-84-spyware</meneame:url>
		<title>#1 Vista no detecta el 84% del spyware</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/vista-no-detecta-84-spyware/c01#c-1</link>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Feb 2007 17:35:41 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>vostorga</dc:creator>
		<guid>https://www.meneame.net/story/vista-no-detecta-84-spyware/c01#c-1</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[<p>ya van dos noticias del win2 y sus vulnerabilidades para hoy...cuantas mas faltarán?</p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>vostorga</strong></p>]]></description>
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