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		<meneame:url>https://www.meneame.net/story/drones-norteamericanos-matan-ms-civiles-talibanes</meneame:url>
		<title>#7 Los Drones Norteamericanos matan más civiles que talibanes</title>
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		<title>#6 Los Drones Norteamericanos matan más civiles que talibanes</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Feb 2010 09:27:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[<p><a class="tooltip c:872719-3" href="https://www.meneame.net/story/drones-norteamericanos-matan-ms-civiles-talibanes/c03#c-3" rel="nofollow">#3</a> Si fueran familiares tuyos veríamos que lado bueno encontrabas.</p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>--39074--</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<meneame:comment_id>5703329</meneame:comment_id>
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		<title>#5 Los Drones Norteamericanos matan más civiles que talibanes</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Feb 2010 23:29:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[<p>Los cálculos creo que están bastante mal hechos. Si consideras al lider de Al Qaeda el blanco y a sus escoltas y a los talibanes como civiles inocentes podría salir así. <br />
<br />
Otros análisis por ejemplo consideran que no ha habido bajas civiles en 2010 (ver segundo gráfico): <a href="http://www.longwarjournal.org/pakistan-strikes.php" title="www.longwarjournal.org/pakistan-strikes.php" rel="nofollow">www.longwarjournal.org/pakistan-strikes.php</a><br />
<br />
La realidad es dificil de conocer. Sólo los habitantes de Waziristán del Norte saben qué pasa y allí mandan los talibanes. Cualquiera que transmita información o simplemente sea sospechoso es ejecutado por espía. <br />
<br />
Para tener una fuente más objetiva yo tomaría un periódico no sensacionalista de Pakistan como el Dawn. Véamos el texto:<br />
<br />
“Two missiles fired by a US drone hit a compound which was being used by militants,” a senior security official in the area said. “One missile hit a compound and the other hit a vehicle outside it. Six militants were killed.” The death toll had initially been put at three&#34;<br />
<br />
<a href="http://www.dawn.com/wps/wcm/connect/dawn-content-library/dawn/news/pakistan/18-suspected-us-drone-strike-kills-six-in-miranshah-am-03" title="www.dawn.com/wps/wcm/connect/dawn-content-library/dawn/news/pakistan/18-suspected-us-drone-strike-kills-six-in-miranshah-am-03" rel="nofollow">www.dawn.com/wps/wcm/connect/dawn-content-library/dawn/news/pakistan/1</a><br />
<br />
“Whenever a drone attack takes place, foreign militants are among those killed,” he said. “We are waiting for details.” He said the target of the attacks was a base frequented by foreign militants.<br />
<br />
“It was a huge, fort-like mud-house. They were using it as a training centre and the training centre belonged to Hafiz Gul Bahadur,” a Pakistani intelligence official said.&#34;<br />
<br />
<a href="http://www.dawn.com/wps/wcm/connect/dawn-content-library/dawn/news/pakistan/07-drone-attack-kills-three-militants-in-n-waziristan-ha-07" title="www.dawn.com/wps/wcm/connect/dawn-content-library/dawn/news/pakistan/07-drone-attack-kills-three-militants-in-n-waziristan-ha-07" rel="nofollow">www.dawn.com/wps/wcm/connect/dawn-content-library/dawn/news/pakistan/0</a><br />
<br />
Pero no sólo hay pardillos. Sólo entre los &#34;peces gordos&#34; ya hay más de tres muertos con nombres y apellidos en 2010. <br />
<br />
<a href="http://www.longwarjournal.org/pakistan-strikes-hvts.php" title="www.longwarjournal.org/pakistan-strikes-hvts.php" rel="nofollow">www.longwarjournal.org/pakistan-strikes-hvts.php</a><br />
<br />
Eso además de haber herido, algunos dicen que podría haber muerto, el lider de los terroristas del TTP, Hakimullah Mesud, sospechoso de organizar algunos de los atentados suicidas más sangrientos como los atentados en el mercado de Peshawar.<br />
<br />
En cualquier caso. Los drones seguramente han matado civiles. Cosa lamentable. Pero por otro lado llega el ejército de Pakistán que directamente desaloja a los talibanes con artillería (algo me dice que no es precisamente munición guiada por GPS)  <br />
<br />
Y creo que con esto ya vale.</p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>--11928--</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<title>#4 Los Drones Norteamericanos matan más civiles que talibanes</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Feb 2010 22:49:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<meneame:comment_id>5703006</meneame:comment_id>
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		<title>#3 Los Drones Norteamericanos matan más civiles que talibanes</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Feb 2010 22:36:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>#2 Los Drones Norteamericanos matan más civiles que talibanes</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Feb 2010 22:20:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[<p>... ¿y que porcentaje de fallos tienen los aviones tripulados?</p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>Gry</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<meneame:user>Tomaydaca</meneame:user>
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		<title>#1 Los Drones Norteamericanos matan más civiles que talibanes</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Feb 2010 22:19:27 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Tomaydaca</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[<p>Estos suelen disparar a lo que se mueve, y después van y miran y les preguntan.</p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>Tomaydaca</strong></p>]]></description>
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