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		<meneame:comment_id>5434727</meneame:comment_id>
		<meneame:link_id>836849</meneame:link_id>
		<meneame:order>12</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>emulenews</meneame:user>
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		<meneame:url>https://www.meneame.net/story/historia-del-cero-buen-origen</meneame:url>
		<title>#12 Historia del cero</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/historia-del-cero-buen-origen/c012#c-12</link>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Dec 2009 09:32:00 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>emulenews</dc:creator>
		<guid>https://www.meneame.net/story/historia-del-cero-buen-origen/c012#c-12</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[<p>Pobre. A los interesados en la historia del cero debo recomendar la lectura directa de la fuente, el libro &#34;The Nothing that Is: A Natural History of Zero,&#34; de Robert y Ellen Kaplan (<a href="http://books.google.com/books?id=Bn0EBVsfi1YC&#38;printsec=frontcover&#38;hl=es&#38;source=gbs_navlinks_s#v=onepage&#38;q=&#38;f=false" title="books.google.com/books?id=Bn0EBVsfi1YC&#38;printsec=frontcover&#38;hl=es&#38;source=gbs_navlinks_s#v=onepage&#38;q=&#38;f=false" rel="nofollow">books.google.com/books?id=Bn0EBVsfi1YC&#38;printsec=frontcover&#38;hl=</a>).</p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>emulenews</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<meneame:comment_id>5432543</meneame:comment_id>
		<meneame:link_id>836849</meneame:link_id>
		<meneame:order>11</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>--125581--</meneame:user>
		<meneame:votes>0</meneame:votes>
		<meneame:karma>7</meneame:karma>
		<meneame:url>https://www.meneame.net/story/historia-del-cero-buen-origen</meneame:url>
		<title>#11 Historia del cero</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/historia-del-cero-buen-origen/c011#c-11</link>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Dec 2009 21:07:21 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>--125581--</dc:creator>
		<guid>https://www.meneame.net/story/historia-del-cero-buen-origen/c011#c-11</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[<p>20 / 4 = 5 ; 20 / 2 = 10 ; 20 / 0,5 = 40 , 20 / 0,25 = 100 . <br />
entonces 20 / 0 = infinito.</p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>--125581--</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<meneame:comment_id>5432179</meneame:comment_id>
		<meneame:link_id>836849</meneame:link_id>
		<meneame:order>10</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>--6300--</meneame:user>
		<meneame:votes>0</meneame:votes>
		<meneame:karma>6</meneame:karma>
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		<title>#10 Historia del cero</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/historia-del-cero-buen-origen/c010#c-10</link>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Dec 2009 20:14:31 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>--6300--</dc:creator>
		<guid>https://www.meneame.net/story/historia-del-cero-buen-origen/c010#c-10</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[<p>En el post pone...<br />
<br />
&#34;MULTIPLICACION Todo número multiplicado por sí mismo, cambia. Pero cero por cero, es cero.&#34;<br />
<br />
Entonces 1x1= ???</p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>--6300--</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<meneame:comment_id>5431459</meneame:comment_id>
		<meneame:link_id>836849</meneame:link_id>
		<meneame:order>9</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>--114411--</meneame:user>
		<meneame:votes>0</meneame:votes>
		<meneame:karma>16</meneame:karma>
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		<title>#9 Historia del cero</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/historia-del-cero-buen-origen/c09#c-9</link>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Dec 2009 18:27:13 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>--114411--</dc:creator>
		<guid>https://www.meneame.net/story/historia-del-cero-buen-origen/c09#c-9</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[<p><a class="tooltip c:836849-8" href="https://www.meneame.net/story/historia-del-cero-buen-origen/c08#c-8" rel="nofollow">#8</a> Obviando el tema de la duplicación? <img data-src="https://cdn.mnmstatic.net/v_149/img/menemojis/36/lol.gif" alt="xD" title=":lol: xD" width="18" height="18" src="https://cdn.mnmstatic.net/v_149/img/g.gif" class="emoji lazy" /> <img data-src="https://cdn.mnmstatic.net/v_149/img/menemojis/36/lol.gif" alt="xD" title=":lol: xD" width="18" height="18" src="https://cdn.mnmstatic.net/v_149/img/g.gif" class="emoji lazy" /> <img data-src="https://cdn.mnmstatic.net/v_149/img/menemojis/36/lol.gif" alt="xD" title=":lol: xD" width="18" height="18" src="https://cdn.mnmstatic.net/v_149/img/g.gif" class="emoji lazy" /><br />
En serio, a mi me encanta detectar noticias duplicadas e informar a quien las pone para que las descarte y no tengamos que ver dos veces lo mismo; para mi es el fin de avisar de una dupe. Pero está bien asegurarse de que lo es y no lanzarse a votar a lo loco, y bueno ya me parece sangrante los que votan dupe porque ya lo ha hecho alguien antes.</p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>--114411--</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<meneame:comment_id>5431419</meneame:comment_id>
		<meneame:link_id>836849</meneame:link_id>
		<meneame:order>8</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>eliatron</meneame:user>
		<meneame:votes>0</meneame:votes>
		<meneame:karma>14</meneame:karma>
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		<title>#8 Historia del cero</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/historia-del-cero-buen-origen/c08#c-8</link>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Dec 2009 18:23:23 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>eliatron</dc:creator>
		<guid>https://www.meneame.net/story/historia-del-cero-buen-origen/c08#c-8</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[<p>obivando el tema de duplicación, al respecto del debate surgido, os recominedo lo siguiente: <a href="http://meneame.net/story/el-cero-y-la-nada" title="meneame.net/story/el-cero-y-la-nada" rel="nofollow">meneame.net/story/el-cero-y-la-nada</a></p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>eliatron</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<meneame:comment_id>5431409</meneame:comment_id>
		<meneame:link_id>836849</meneame:link_id>
		<meneame:order>7</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>dulaman</meneame:user>
		<meneame:votes>1</meneame:votes>
		<meneame:karma>29</meneame:karma>
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		<title>#7 Historia del cero</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/historia-del-cero-buen-origen/c07#c-7</link>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Dec 2009 18:21:48 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>dulaman</dc:creator>
		<guid>https://www.meneame.net/story/historia-del-cero-buen-origen/c07#c-7</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[<p><a class="tooltip c:836849-4" href="https://www.meneame.net/story/historia-del-cero-buen-origen/c04#c-4" rel="nofollow">#4</a>: Pues lo hice notar porque creo que es un debate interesante. Yo creo que aunque las matemáticas en abstracto se &#34;descubren&#34;, las cifras, los números escritos, son convenciones y por lo tanto son inventos.</p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>dulaman</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<meneame:comment_id>5431372</meneame:comment_id>
		<meneame:link_id>836849</meneame:link_id>
		<meneame:order>6</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>--158819--</meneame:user>
		<meneame:votes>2</meneame:votes>
		<meneame:karma>50</meneame:karma>
		<meneame:url>https://www.meneame.net/story/historia-del-cero-buen-origen</meneame:url>
		<title>#6 Historia del cero</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/historia-del-cero-buen-origen/c06#c-6</link>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Dec 2009 18:16:32 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>--158819--</dc:creator>
		<guid>https://www.meneame.net/story/historia-del-cero-buen-origen/c06#c-6</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[<p><a class="tooltip c:836849-5" href="https://www.meneame.net/story/historia-del-cero-buen-origen/c05#c-5" rel="nofollow">#5</a> ¿Duplicada de un artículo de 2007 cuando aún ni se habían publicado los libros que aquí se comentan? ¿Has leído las dos noticias o sólo te has pasado quince minutos revisando páginas del buscador hasta encontrar esa?<br />
<br />
¿Vas a comisión o algo? <img data-src="https://cdn.mnmstatic.net/v_149/img/menemojis/36/lol.gif" alt="xD" title=":lol: xD" width="18" height="18" src="https://cdn.mnmstatic.net/v_149/img/g.gif" class="emoji lazy" /></p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>--158819--</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<meneame:comment_id>5431337</meneame:comment_id>
		<meneame:link_id>836849</meneame:link_id>
		<meneame:order>5</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>eliatron</meneame:user>
		<meneame:votes>1</meneame:votes>
		<meneame:karma>31</meneame:karma>
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		<title>#5 Historia del cero</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/historia-del-cero-buen-origen/c05#c-5</link>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Dec 2009 18:12:37 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>eliatron</dc:creator>
		<guid>https://www.meneame.net/story/historia-del-cero-buen-origen/c05#c-5</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[<p>Duplicada: <a href="http://meneame.net/story/el-origen-del-cero" title="meneame.net/story/el-origen-del-cero" rel="nofollow">meneame.net/story/el-origen-del-cero</a></p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>eliatron</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<meneame:comment_id>5431299</meneame:comment_id>
		<meneame:link_id>836849</meneame:link_id>
		<meneame:order>4</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>--158819--</meneame:user>
		<meneame:votes>2</meneame:votes>
		<meneame:karma>50</meneame:karma>
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		<title>#4 Historia del cero</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/historia-del-cero-buen-origen/c04#c-4</link>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Dec 2009 18:07:28 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>--158819--</dc:creator>
		<guid>https://www.meneame.net/story/historia-del-cero-buen-origen/c04#c-4</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[<p><a class="tooltip c:836849-3" href="https://www.meneame.net/story/historia-del-cero-buen-origen/c03#c-3" rel="nofollow">#3</a> Pues tal vez sería una interesante discusión esa de si lo descubrieron o lo inventaron, desde un punto de vista epistemológico. Quiero decir ¿el cero no estaba ahí <strong>antes</strong> de empezar a utilizarse? La nada es previa al ser o, por decir de otra manera, el ser no puede estar si no existe la nada pues sólo en oposición a ella tiene sentido, es algo. <br />
<br />
Yo creo que <em>descubrir</em> es un verbo muy interesante para este caso.</p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>--158819--</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<meneame:comment_id>5431276</meneame:comment_id>
		<meneame:link_id>836849</meneame:link_id>
		<meneame:order>3</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>dulaman</meneame:user>
		<meneame:votes>0</meneame:votes>
		<meneame:karma>14</meneame:karma>
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		<title>#3 Historia del cero</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/historia-del-cero-buen-origen/c03#c-3</link>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Dec 2009 18:04:47 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>dulaman</dc:creator>
		<guid>https://www.meneame.net/story/historia-del-cero-buen-origen/c03#c-3</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[<p><em>Los sumerios y los mayas lo descubrieron...</em><br />
<br />
Será &#34;lo inventaron&#34;, ¿no? <img data-src="https://cdn.mnmstatic.net/v_149/img/menemojis/36/confused.png" alt=":-S" title=":-S :S" width="18" height="18" src="https://cdn.mnmstatic.net/v_149/img/g.gif" class="emoji lazy" /> ¡Eureka! ¡He descubierto el cero! Miradlo, qué redondito es. Y como no vale nada, es normal que se nos pasara desapercibido.</p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>dulaman</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<meneame:comment_id>5431273</meneame:comment_id>
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		<meneame:order>2</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>--159670--</meneame:user>
		<meneame:votes>1</meneame:votes>
		<meneame:karma>9</meneame:karma>
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		<title>#2 Historia del cero</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/historia-del-cero-buen-origen/c02#c-2</link>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Dec 2009 18:04:10 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>--159670--</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[<p>Y a la izquierda del cero, el que no pinta nada.</p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>--159670--</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<meneame:comment_id>5431272</meneame:comment_id>
		<meneame:link_id>836849</meneame:link_id>
		<meneame:order>1</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>Brufux</meneame:user>
		<meneame:votes>1</meneame:votes>
		<meneame:karma>26</meneame:karma>
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		<title>#1 Historia del cero</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/historia-del-cero-buen-origen/c01#c-1</link>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Dec 2009 18:03:58 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Brufux</dc:creator>
		<guid>https://www.meneame.net/story/historia-del-cero-buen-origen/c01#c-1</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[<p>El famoso &#34;Cerito sexuarl&#34;</p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>Brufux</strong></p>]]></description>
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