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		<meneame:comment_id>4603944</meneame:comment_id>
		<meneame:link_id>728941</meneame:link_id>
		<meneame:order>15</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>colubra</meneame:user>
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		<meneame:karma>6</meneame:karma>
		<meneame:url>https://www.meneame.net/story/sancion-justa-pero-castiga-victima</meneame:url>
		<title>#15 &#34;La sanción es justa, pero se castiga a la víctima&#34;</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/sancion-justa-pero-castiga-victima/c015#c-15</link>
		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Jul 2009 23:56:46 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>colubra</dc:creator>
		<guid>https://www.meneame.net/story/sancion-justa-pero-castiga-victima/c015#c-15</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[<p><a class="tooltip c:728941-13" href="https://www.meneame.net/story/sancion-justa-pero-castiga-victima/c013#c-13" rel="nofollow">#13</a> Entendido</p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>colubra</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<meneame:comment_id>4601891</meneame:comment_id>
		<meneame:link_id>728941</meneame:link_id>
		<meneame:order>14</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>Scan</meneame:user>
		<meneame:votes>0</meneame:votes>
		<meneame:karma>10</meneame:karma>
		<meneame:url>https://www.meneame.net/story/sancion-justa-pero-castiga-victima</meneame:url>
		<title>#14 &#34;La sanción es justa, pero se castiga a la víctima&#34;</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/sancion-justa-pero-castiga-victima/c014#c-14</link>
		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Jul 2009 16:49:57 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Scan</dc:creator>
		<guid>https://www.meneame.net/story/sancion-justa-pero-castiga-victima/c014#c-14</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[<p><a class="tooltip c:728941-10" href="https://www.meneame.net/story/sancion-justa-pero-castiga-victima/c010#c-10" rel="nofollow">#10</a> Pero tienen una clausula en ese contrato que OBLIGA a Renault a propocionarles un coche para todas las carreras, en el caso de Alonso si Renault no le da un monoplaza puede correr para otra escuderia.</p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>Scan</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<meneame:comment_id>4601207</meneame:comment_id>
		<meneame:link_id>728941</meneame:link_id>
		<meneame:order>13</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>MrQeu</meneame:user>
		<meneame:votes>0</meneame:votes>
		<meneame:karma>10</meneame:karma>
		<meneame:url>https://www.meneame.net/story/sancion-justa-pero-castiga-victima</meneame:url>
		<title>#13 &#34;La sanción es justa, pero se castiga a la víctima&#34;</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/sancion-justa-pero-castiga-victima/c013#c-13</link>
		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Jul 2009 15:07:36 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>MrQeu</dc:creator>
		<guid>https://www.meneame.net/story/sancion-justa-pero-castiga-victima/c013#c-13</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[<p>Si Alonso pierde el tapacubos y se para (por propia iniciativa o por orden del equipo) en una puzzolana o escapatoria, no pasa nada. Sin embargo se ve claramente por tv como pierde el tapacubos y sigue adelante. Alonso puede no darse cuenta, pero en cuanto se cae el tapacubos, en el box saben que la rueda no está fija y se puede acabar saliendo. Pero no le dicen nada, o si se lo dicen, Alonso decide no hacer caso (sería cosa de oír las grabaciones de radio, algo que habrá hecho la FIA).<br />
<br />
Compararlo con lo de Barrichello es no saber de mecánica o no ser capaz de ver más allá de las propias y españolas narices. A Barrichello se le rompe un trozo de la parte trasera del coche que apenas se ve. Rubinho nota algo, pero es imposible saber si es un bache o un trozo roto. El equipo no puede saberlo tampoco. Una rueda de F1 pesa unos 9 kg y es un cilindro de unos 55 cm de diámetro y más 30 de altura. Se ve a la legua. El muelle de Barrichello no se ve siquiera.<br />
<br />
Más allá de todo esto está la sanción justa o no.</p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>MrQeu</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<meneame:comment_id>4600486</meneame:comment_id>
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		<meneame:order>12</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>enlasombra</meneame:user>
		<meneame:votes>0</meneame:votes>
		<meneame:karma>6</meneame:karma>
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		<title>#12 &#34;La sanción es justa, pero se castiga a la víctima&#34;</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/sancion-justa-pero-castiga-victima/c012#c-12</link>
		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Jul 2009 13:09:12 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>enlasombra</dc:creator>
		<guid>https://www.meneame.net/story/sancion-justa-pero-castiga-victima/c012#c-12</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[<p><a class="tooltip c:728941-11" href="https://www.meneame.net/story/sancion-justa-pero-castiga-victima/c011#c-11" rel="nofollow">#11</a> La sancion es porque Renault permitió que el coche saliera sabiendo que no estaba en condiciones y podia perder la rueda.</p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>enlasombra</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<meneame:comment_id>4600471</meneame:comment_id>
		<meneame:link_id>728941</meneame:link_id>
		<meneame:order>11</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>colubra</meneame:user>
		<meneame:votes>0</meneame:votes>
		<meneame:karma>6</meneame:karma>
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		<title>#11 &#34;La sanción es justa, pero se castiga a la víctima&#34;</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/sancion-justa-pero-castiga-victima/c011#c-11</link>
		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Jul 2009 13:06:34 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>colubra</dc:creator>
		<guid>https://www.meneame.net/story/sancion-justa-pero-castiga-victima/c011#c-11</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[<p>Lo que yo no llego a comprender porqué al equipo BRAWN no le sucedelo mismo...</p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>colubra</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<meneame:comment_id>4600463</meneame:comment_id>
		<meneame:link_id>728941</meneame:link_id>
		<meneame:order>10</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>enlasombra</meneame:user>
		<meneame:votes>0</meneame:votes>
		<meneame:karma>6</meneame:karma>
		<meneame:url>https://www.meneame.net/story/sancion-justa-pero-castiga-victima</meneame:url>
		<title>#10 &#34;La sanción es justa, pero se castiga a la víctima&#34;</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/sancion-justa-pero-castiga-victima/c010#c-10</link>
		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Jul 2009 13:04:58 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>enlasombra</dc:creator>
		<guid>https://www.meneame.net/story/sancion-justa-pero-castiga-victima/c010#c-10</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[<p><a class="tooltip c:728941-9" href="https://www.meneame.net/story/sancion-justa-pero-castiga-victima/c09#c-9" rel="nofollow">#9</a> que yo sepa esos dos pilotos &#34;sin escuderia&#34; si tienen contrato.</p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>enlasombra</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<meneame:comment_id>4600417</meneame:comment_id>
		<meneame:link_id>728941</meneame:link_id>
		<meneame:order>9</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>Scan</meneame:user>
		<meneame:votes>0</meneame:votes>
		<meneame:karma>10</meneame:karma>
		<meneame:url>https://www.meneame.net/story/sancion-justa-pero-castiga-victima</meneame:url>
		<title>#9 &#34;La sanción es justa, pero se castiga a la víctima&#34;</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/sancion-justa-pero-castiga-victima/c09#c-9</link>
		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Jul 2009 12:58:15 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Scan</dc:creator>
		<guid>https://www.meneame.net/story/sancion-justa-pero-castiga-victima/c09#c-9</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[<p>La sanción es justa, se castiga a la escuderia de poner en peligro tanto a Fernando como al resto de competidores. <br />
<br />
Se prohibe a RENAULT a presentarse no Fernando ni a Piquet, tenemos 2 pilotos sin escuderia, y una escuderia que le falta un piloto...</p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>Scan</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<meneame:comment_id>4600322</meneame:comment_id>
		<meneame:link_id>728941</meneame:link_id>
		<meneame:order>8</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>pakkers</meneame:user>
		<meneame:votes>1</meneame:votes>
		<meneame:karma>19</meneame:karma>
		<meneame:url>https://www.meneame.net/story/sancion-justa-pero-castiga-victima</meneame:url>
		<title>#8 &#34;La sanción es justa, pero se castiga a la víctima&#34;</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/sancion-justa-pero-castiga-victima/c08#c-8</link>
		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Jul 2009 12:41:13 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>pakkers</dc:creator>
		<guid>https://www.meneame.net/story/sancion-justa-pero-castiga-victima/c08#c-8</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[<p><a class="tooltip c:728941-5" href="https://www.meneame.net/story/sancion-justa-pero-castiga-victima/c05#c-5" rel="nofollow">#5</a> ¿Esto acerca a David Villa al Madrid ? <img data-src="https://cdn.mnmstatic.net/v_149/img/menemojis/36/lol.gif" alt="xD" title=":lol: xD" width="18" height="18" src="https://cdn.mnmstatic.net/v_149/img/g.gif" class="emoji lazy" /></p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>pakkers</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<meneame:comment_id>4600265</meneame:comment_id>
		<meneame:link_id>728941</meneame:link_id>
		<meneame:order>7</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>--82570--</meneame:user>
		<meneame:votes>1</meneame:votes>
		<meneame:karma>20</meneame:karma>
		<meneame:url>https://www.meneame.net/story/sancion-justa-pero-castiga-victima</meneame:url>
		<title>#7 &#34;La sanción es justa, pero se castiga a la víctima&#34;</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/sancion-justa-pero-castiga-victima/c07#c-7</link>
		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Jul 2009 12:32:24 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>--82570--</dc:creator>
		<guid>https://www.meneame.net/story/sancion-justa-pero-castiga-victima/c07#c-7</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[<p><a class="tooltip c:728941-5" href="https://www.meneame.net/story/sancion-justa-pero-castiga-victima/c05#c-5" rel="nofollow">#5</a>  Pues sí, lo ha dicho As. <img data-src="https://cdn.mnmstatic.net/v_149/img/menemojis/36/grin.png" alt=":-D" title=":-D" width="18" height="18" src="https://cdn.mnmstatic.net/v_149/img/g.gif" class="emoji lazy" /><br />
<br />
<a href="http://www.as.com/motor/articulo/gran-premio-formula-formula-automovilismo/dasmot/20090727dasdaimot_1/Tes" title="www.as.com/motor/articulo/gran-premio-formula-formula-automovilismo/dasmot/20090727dasdaimot_1/Tes" rel="nofollow">www.as.com/motor/articulo/gran-premio-formula-formula-automovilismo/da</a></p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>--82570--</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<meneame:comment_id>4600212</meneame:comment_id>
		<meneame:link_id>728941</meneame:link_id>
		<meneame:order>6</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>--136105--</meneame:user>
		<meneame:votes>1</meneame:votes>
		<meneame:karma>23</meneame:karma>
		<meneame:url>https://www.meneame.net/story/sancion-justa-pero-castiga-victima</meneame:url>
		<title>#6 &#34;La sanción es justa, pero se castiga a la víctima&#34;</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/sancion-justa-pero-castiga-victima/c06#c-6</link>
		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Jul 2009 12:25:25 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>--136105--</dc:creator>
		<guid>https://www.meneame.net/story/sancion-justa-pero-castiga-victima/c06#c-6</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[<p><a class="tooltip c:728941-5" href="https://www.meneame.net/story/sancion-justa-pero-castiga-victima/c05#c-5" rel="nofollow">#5</a> Yo no digo nada...<br />
<a href="http://meneame.net/story/schumacher-alonso-encabezan-lista-sustitutos-massa" title="meneame.net/story/schumacher-alonso-encabezan-lista-sustitutos-massa" rel="nofollow">meneame.net/story/schumacher-alonso-encabezan-lista-sustitutos-massa</a></p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>--136105--</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<meneame:comment_id>4600171</meneame:comment_id>
		<meneame:link_id>728941</meneame:link_id>
		<meneame:order>5</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>adoctrinacharo</meneame:user>
		<meneame:votes>0</meneame:votes>
		<meneame:karma>12</meneame:karma>
		<meneame:url>https://www.meneame.net/story/sancion-justa-pero-castiga-victima</meneame:url>
		<title>#5 &#34;La sanción es justa, pero se castiga a la víctima&#34;</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/sancion-justa-pero-castiga-victima/c05#c-5</link>
		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Jul 2009 12:20:51 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>adoctrinacharo</dc:creator>
		<guid>https://www.meneame.net/story/sancion-justa-pero-castiga-victima/c05#c-5</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[<p>Entonces Alonso lo que tendria que hacer es cambiar de equipo.... Ale, lo dejo preparado para que alguien lo suelte <img data-src="https://cdn.mnmstatic.net/v_149/img/menemojis/36/grin.png" alt=":-D" title=":-D" width="18" height="18" src="https://cdn.mnmstatic.net/v_149/img/g.gif" class="emoji lazy" /> (son 5 comentarios y nadie lo ha dicho aun...)</p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>adoctrinacharo</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<meneame:comment_id>4600151</meneame:comment_id>
		<meneame:link_id>728941</meneame:link_id>
		<meneame:order>4</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>enlasombra</meneame:user>
		<meneame:votes>1</meneame:votes>
		<meneame:karma>16</meneame:karma>
		<meneame:url>https://www.meneame.net/story/sancion-justa-pero-castiga-victima</meneame:url>
		<title>#4 &#34;La sanción es justa, pero se castiga a la víctima&#34;</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/sancion-justa-pero-castiga-victima/c04#c-4</link>
		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Jul 2009 12:18:36 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>enlasombra</dc:creator>
		<guid>https://www.meneame.net/story/sancion-justa-pero-castiga-victima/c04#c-4</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[<p>La prensa española siempre con la dicotomia Alonso/equipo. Se sanciona al equipo Renault y Alonso forma parte del equipo Renault, no veo donde está el problema (que es una putada, pues vale pero es lo que hay en todos los deportes).</p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>enlasombra</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<meneame:comment_id>4600121</meneame:comment_id>
		<meneame:link_id>728941</meneame:link_id>
		<meneame:order>3</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>--36793--</meneame:user>
		<meneame:votes>1</meneame:votes>
		<meneame:karma>24</meneame:karma>
		<meneame:url>https://www.meneame.net/story/sancion-justa-pero-castiga-victima</meneame:url>
		<title>#3 &#34;La sanción es justa, pero se castiga a la víctima&#34;</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/sancion-justa-pero-castiga-victima/c03#c-3</link>
		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Jul 2009 12:15:46 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>--36793--</dc:creator>
		<guid>https://www.meneame.net/story/sancion-justa-pero-castiga-victima/c03#c-3</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[<p>Es que no se sanciona a Alonso, Alonso puede correr, pero no con un coche de Renault. La ley al parecer es bastante clara al respecto.</p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>--36793--</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<meneame:comment_id>4600118</meneame:comment_id>
		<meneame:link_id>728941</meneame:link_id>
		<meneame:order>2</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>--83155--</meneame:user>
		<meneame:votes>0</meneame:votes>
		<meneame:karma>8</meneame:karma>
		<meneame:url>https://www.meneame.net/story/sancion-justa-pero-castiga-victima</meneame:url>
		<title>#2 &#34;La sanción es justa, pero se castiga a la víctima&#34;</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/sancion-justa-pero-castiga-victima/c02#c-2</link>
		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Jul 2009 12:15:36 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>--83155--</dc:creator>
		<guid>https://www.meneame.net/story/sancion-justa-pero-castiga-victima/c02#c-2</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[<p><a class="tooltip c:728941-1" href="https://www.meneame.net/story/sancion-justa-pero-castiga-victima/c01#c-1" rel="nofollow">#1</a> Cierto, una sancion que castiga a quien no lo merece no puede ser considerada de justa.</p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>--83155--</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<meneame:comment_id>4600095</meneame:comment_id>
		<meneame:link_id>728941</meneame:link_id>
		<meneame:order>1</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>Catalana</meneame:user>
		<meneame:votes>7</meneame:votes>
		<meneame:karma>79</meneame:karma>
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		<title>#1 &#34;La sanción es justa, pero se castiga a la víctima&#34;</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/sancion-justa-pero-castiga-victima/c01#c-1</link>
		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Jul 2009 12:11:57 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Catalana</dc:creator>
		<guid>https://www.meneame.net/story/sancion-justa-pero-castiga-victima/c01#c-1</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[<p>&#34;justa&#34; no, si acaso &#34;legal&#34;</p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>Catalana</strong></p>]]></description>
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