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		<meneame:order>17</meneame:order>
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		<meneame:karma>6</meneame:karma>
		<meneame:url>https://www.meneame.net/story/desarrollan-higado-artificial-para-probar-medicamentos-sin-danar</meneame:url>
		<title>#17 Desarrollan un hígado artificial para probar medicamentos sin dañar animales</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/desarrollan-higado-artificial-para-probar-medicamentos-sin-danar/c017#c-17</link>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Jun 2009 07:29:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[<p>[Usuario deshabilitado]</p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>--61013--</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<meneame:comment_id>4425717</meneame:comment_id>
		<meneame:link_id>705896</meneame:link_id>
		<meneame:order>16</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>rasomu</meneame:user>
		<meneame:votes>0</meneame:votes>
		<meneame:karma>6</meneame:karma>
		<meneame:url>https://www.meneame.net/story/desarrollan-higado-artificial-para-probar-medicamentos-sin-danar</meneame:url>
		<title>#16 Desarrollan un hígado artificial para probar medicamentos sin dañar animales</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/desarrollan-higado-artificial-para-probar-medicamentos-sin-danar/c016#c-16</link>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Jun 2009 21:41:56 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>rasomu</dc:creator>
		<guid>https://www.meneame.net/story/desarrollan-higado-artificial-para-probar-medicamentos-sin-danar/c016#c-16</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[<p>&#34;instituto Fraunhofer &#34; después del mp3 se pasaron a los hígados, en el futuro quien sabe</p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>rasomu</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<meneame:comment_id>4424960</meneame:comment_id>
		<meneame:link_id>705896</meneame:link_id>
		<meneame:order>15</meneame:order>
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		<meneame:votes>0</meneame:votes>
		<meneame:karma>10</meneame:karma>
		<meneame:url>https://www.meneame.net/story/desarrollan-higado-artificial-para-probar-medicamentos-sin-danar</meneame:url>
		<title>#15 Desarrollan un hígado artificial para probar medicamentos sin dañar animales</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/desarrollan-higado-artificial-para-probar-medicamentos-sin-danar/c015#c-15</link>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Jun 2009 19:46:54 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>--46364--</dc:creator>
		<guid>https://www.meneame.net/story/desarrollan-higado-artificial-para-probar-medicamentos-sin-danar/c015#c-15</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[<p><a class="tooltip c:705896-3" href="https://www.meneame.net/story/desarrollan-higado-artificial-para-probar-medicamentos-sin-danar/c03#c-3" rel="nofollow">#3</a> por supuesto.. yo al principio de mi tesis tuve que sacrificar ratas porque necesitaba los hígados. Investigamos y vimos que para lo que nos hacía falta, era suficiente usar cultivos celulares (haciéndolos crecer mucho y luego hacer una especie de &#34;puré&#34; de células). Pero para ver que podíamos usar esa alternativa antes tuvimos que usar a animales <img data-src="https://cdn.mnmstatic.net/v_149/img/menemojis/36/sad.png" alt=":-(" title=":-(" width="18" height="18" src="https://cdn.mnmstatic.net/v_149/img/g.gif" class="emoji lazy" /></p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>--46364--</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<meneame:comment_id>4424292</meneame:comment_id>
		<meneame:link_id>705896</meneame:link_id>
		<meneame:order>14</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>Davis_</meneame:user>
		<meneame:votes>1</meneame:votes>
		<meneame:karma>15</meneame:karma>
		<meneame:url>https://www.meneame.net/story/desarrollan-higado-artificial-para-probar-medicamentos-sin-danar</meneame:url>
		<title>#14 Desarrollan un hígado artificial para probar medicamentos sin dañar animales</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/desarrollan-higado-artificial-para-probar-medicamentos-sin-danar/c014#c-14</link>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Jun 2009 18:03:22 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Davis_</dc:creator>
		<guid>https://www.meneame.net/story/desarrollan-higado-artificial-para-probar-medicamentos-sin-danar/c014#c-14</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[<p>Uno de repuesto no nos vendría mal a algunos de nosotros <img data-src="https://cdn.mnmstatic.net/v_149/img/menemojis/36/grin.png" alt=":-D" title=":-D" width="18" height="18" src="https://cdn.mnmstatic.net/v_149/img/g.gif" class="emoji lazy" /></p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>Davis_</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<meneame:comment_id>4424048</meneame:comment_id>
		<meneame:link_id>705896</meneame:link_id>
		<meneame:order>13</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>tam</meneame:user>
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		<meneame:karma>15</meneame:karma>
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		<title>#13 Desarrollan un hígado artificial para probar medicamentos sin dañar animales</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/desarrollan-higado-artificial-para-probar-medicamentos-sin-danar/c013#c-13</link>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Jun 2009 17:26:25 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>tam</dc:creator>
		<guid>https://www.meneame.net/story/desarrollan-higado-artificial-para-probar-medicamentos-sin-danar/c013#c-13</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[<p>en realidad luego hay mogollon de diferencias geneticas entre higado e higado, segun sus diferentes complejos enzimaticos encargados de metabolizar, pero qué guay, yo quiero uno!</p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>tam</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<meneame:comment_id>4423682</meneame:comment_id>
		<meneame:link_id>705896</meneame:link_id>
		<meneame:order>12</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>Kanda</meneame:user>
		<meneame:votes>0</meneame:votes>
		<meneame:karma>8</meneame:karma>
		<meneame:url>https://www.meneame.net/story/desarrollan-higado-artificial-para-probar-medicamentos-sin-danar</meneame:url>
		<title>#12 Desarrollan un hígado artificial para probar medicamentos sin dañar animales</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/desarrollan-higado-artificial-para-probar-medicamentos-sin-danar/c012#c-12</link>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Jun 2009 16:29:23 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Kanda</dc:creator>
		<guid>https://www.meneame.net/story/desarrollan-higado-artificial-para-probar-medicamentos-sin-danar/c012#c-12</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[<p>Algo es algo, y eso ya es importante. Ojalá llegue el día en que el daño a los animales para estos y otros menesteres sea mínimo.<br />
<a class="tooltip c:705896-11" href="https://www.meneame.net/story/desarrollan-higado-artificial-para-probar-medicamentos-sin-danar/c011#c-11" rel="nofollow">#11</a> Yo no he vuelto a comer foie-gras desde que me dijeron cómo se hace... es brutal... en fin... obviamente se seguirá haciendo, como otras tantas cosas.<br />
Aunque recuerdo muy bien el sabor del hígado de pato... y realmente sabía bien... pero joder es brutal como se consigue... Como este y otros tantos &#34;placeres&#34;: el placer de unos es pagado con el sufrimiento de otros.</p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>Kanda</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<meneame:comment_id>4423163</meneame:comment_id>
		<meneame:link_id>705896</meneame:link_id>
		<meneame:order>11</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>RollWhisTler</meneame:user>
		<meneame:votes>2</meneame:votes>
		<meneame:karma>25</meneame:karma>
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		<title>#11 Desarrollan un hígado artificial para probar medicamentos sin dañar animales</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/desarrollan-higado-artificial-para-probar-medicamentos-sin-danar/c011#c-11</link>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Jun 2009 15:16:39 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>RollWhisTler</dc:creator>
		<guid>https://www.meneame.net/story/desarrollan-higado-artificial-para-probar-medicamentos-sin-danar/c011#c-11</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[<p><a class="tooltip c:705896-7" href="https://www.meneame.net/story/desarrollan-higado-artificial-para-probar-medicamentos-sin-danar/c07#c-7" rel="nofollow">#7</a> vale, me has pillado, en realidad no me siento mal. Me encanta el foie-gras, pero si pudiese obtenerse de otra manera... mejor</p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>RollWhisTler</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<meneame:comment_id>4423144</meneame:comment_id>
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		<meneame:order>10</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>estoyausente</meneame:user>
		<meneame:votes>1</meneame:votes>
		<meneame:karma>19</meneame:karma>
		<meneame:url>https://www.meneame.net/story/desarrollan-higado-artificial-para-probar-medicamentos-sin-danar</meneame:url>
		<title>#10 Desarrollan un hígado artificial para probar medicamentos sin dañar animales</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/desarrollan-higado-artificial-para-probar-medicamentos-sin-danar/c010#c-10</link>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Jun 2009 15:14:17 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>estoyausente</dc:creator>
		<guid>https://www.meneame.net/story/desarrollan-higado-artificial-para-probar-medicamentos-sin-danar/c010#c-10</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[<p>Bueno, no está mal. A mi personalmente me parece que los ratoncitos de los laboratorios son pérdidas menores si se salvan vidas.<br />
<br />
Hay muchísimo maltrato animal y muertes que hay que quitar antes. (ejem toros).</p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>estoyausente</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<meneame:comment_id>4423093</meneame:comment_id>
		<meneame:link_id>705896</meneame:link_id>
		<meneame:order>9</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>--2873--</meneame:user>
		<meneame:votes>1</meneame:votes>
		<meneame:karma>20</meneame:karma>
		<meneame:url>https://www.meneame.net/story/desarrollan-higado-artificial-para-probar-medicamentos-sin-danar</meneame:url>
		<title>#9 Desarrollan un hígado artificial para probar medicamentos sin dañar animales</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/desarrollan-higado-artificial-para-probar-medicamentos-sin-danar/c09#c-9</link>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Jun 2009 15:08:18 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>--2873--</dc:creator>
		<guid>https://www.meneame.net/story/desarrollan-higado-artificial-para-probar-medicamentos-sin-danar/c09#c-9</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[<p>¡Viva! <img data-src="https://cdn.mnmstatic.net/v_149/img/menemojis/36/cheesy.png" alt=":-&#62;" title=":-&#62;" width="18" height="18" src="https://cdn.mnmstatic.net/v_149/img/g.gif" class="emoji lazy" /></p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>--2873--</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<meneame:comment_id>4423084</meneame:comment_id>
		<meneame:link_id>705896</meneame:link_id>
		<meneame:order>8</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>--98075--</meneame:user>
		<meneame:votes>1</meneame:votes>
		<meneame:karma>15</meneame:karma>
		<meneame:url>https://www.meneame.net/story/desarrollan-higado-artificial-para-probar-medicamentos-sin-danar</meneame:url>
		<title>#8 Desarrollan un hígado artificial para probar medicamentos sin dañar animales</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/desarrollan-higado-artificial-para-probar-medicamentos-sin-danar/c08#c-8</link>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Jun 2009 15:07:17 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>--98075--</dc:creator>
		<guid>https://www.meneame.net/story/desarrollan-higado-artificial-para-probar-medicamentos-sin-danar/c08#c-8</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg190/Paragoomba_/danke.jpg" title="i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg190/Paragoomba_/danke.jpg" rel="nofollow">i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg190/Paragoomba_/danke.jpg</a></p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>--98075--</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<meneame:comment_id>4423027</meneame:comment_id>
		<meneame:link_id>705896</meneame:link_id>
		<meneame:order>7</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>Bad_Religion</meneame:user>
		<meneame:votes>0</meneame:votes>
		<meneame:karma>8</meneame:karma>
		<meneame:url>https://www.meneame.net/story/desarrollan-higado-artificial-para-probar-medicamentos-sin-danar</meneame:url>
		<title>#7 Desarrollan un hígado artificial para probar medicamentos sin dañar animales</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/desarrollan-higado-artificial-para-probar-medicamentos-sin-danar/c07#c-7</link>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Jun 2009 14:58:57 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Bad_Religion</dc:creator>
		<guid>https://www.meneame.net/story/desarrollan-higado-artificial-para-probar-medicamentos-sin-danar/c07#c-7</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[<p><a class="tooltip c:705896-4" href="https://www.meneame.net/story/desarrollan-higado-artificial-para-probar-medicamentos-sin-danar/c04#c-4" rel="nofollow">#4</a>, ¿no es más fácil dejar de comerlo?</p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>Bad_Religion</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<meneame:comment_id>4423022</meneame:comment_id>
		<meneame:link_id>705896</meneame:link_id>
		<meneame:order>6</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>--87006--</meneame:user>
		<meneame:votes>0</meneame:votes>
		<meneame:karma>9</meneame:karma>
		<meneame:url>https://www.meneame.net/story/desarrollan-higado-artificial-para-probar-medicamentos-sin-danar</meneame:url>
		<title>#6 Desarrollan un hígado artificial para probar medicamentos sin dañar animales</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/desarrollan-higado-artificial-para-probar-medicamentos-sin-danar/c06#c-6</link>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Jun 2009 14:58:20 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>--87006--</dc:creator>
		<guid>https://www.meneame.net/story/desarrollan-higado-artificial-para-probar-medicamentos-sin-danar/c06#c-6</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[<p>[Usuario deshabilitado]</p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>--87006--</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<meneame:comment_id>4423013</meneame:comment_id>
		<meneame:link_id>705896</meneame:link_id>
		<meneame:order>5</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>Perovic</meneame:user>
		<meneame:votes>1</meneame:votes>
		<meneame:karma>15</meneame:karma>
		<meneame:url>https://www.meneame.net/story/desarrollan-higado-artificial-para-probar-medicamentos-sin-danar</meneame:url>
		<title>#5 Desarrollan un hígado artificial para probar medicamentos sin dañar animales</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/desarrollan-higado-artificial-para-probar-medicamentos-sin-danar/c05#c-5</link>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Jun 2009 14:57:18 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Perovic</dc:creator>
		<guid>https://www.meneame.net/story/desarrollan-higado-artificial-para-probar-medicamentos-sin-danar/c05#c-5</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[<p>Esto me recuerda a la película de &#34;El Hombre Bicentenario&#34; <a href="http://www.zinema.com/pelicula/2000/elhombre.htm" title="www.zinema.com/pelicula/2000/elhombre.htm" rel="nofollow">www.zinema.com/pelicula/2000/elhombre.htm</a> , en la que el robot creaba órganos artificiales que funcionaban como los de verdad...<br />
<br />
Que bonito pensar que podamos hacer algo así para salvar vidas...</p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>Perovic</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<meneame:comment_id>4422920</meneame:comment_id>
		<meneame:link_id>705896</meneame:link_id>
		<meneame:order>4</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>RollWhisTler</meneame:user>
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		<meneame:karma>8</meneame:karma>
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		<title>#4 Desarrollan un hígado artificial para probar medicamentos sin dañar animales</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/desarrollan-higado-artificial-para-probar-medicamentos-sin-danar/c04#c-4</link>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Jun 2009 14:45:43 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>RollWhisTler</dc:creator>
		<guid>https://www.meneame.net/story/desarrollan-higado-artificial-para-probar-medicamentos-sin-danar/c04#c-4</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[<p>Pues a ver si consiguen hacer un buen foie-gras con higados artificiales, y así podré dejar de sentirme mal por comerlos tan agusto...</p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>RollWhisTler</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<meneame:comment_id>4422878</meneame:comment_id>
		<meneame:link_id>705896</meneame:link_id>
		<meneame:order>3</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>Xiana</meneame:user>
		<meneame:votes>0</meneame:votes>
		<meneame:karma>15</meneame:karma>
		<meneame:url>https://www.meneame.net/story/desarrollan-higado-artificial-para-probar-medicamentos-sin-danar</meneame:url>
		<title>#3 Desarrollan un hígado artificial para probar medicamentos sin dañar animales</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/desarrollan-higado-artificial-para-probar-medicamentos-sin-danar/c03#c-3</link>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Jun 2009 14:39:57 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Xiana</dc:creator>
		<guid>https://www.meneame.net/story/desarrollan-higado-artificial-para-probar-medicamentos-sin-danar/c03#c-3</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[<p><a class="tooltip c:705896-2" href="https://www.meneame.net/story/desarrollan-higado-artificial-para-probar-medicamentos-sin-danar/c02#c-2" rel="nofollow">#2</a> Por supuesto, pero aunque no lo parezca, los científicos ansían encontrar un modo de dejar de dañar animales en sus experimentos o, por lo menos, minimizar este daño. A veces se los tacha de inhumanos por eso cuando, simplemente, se limitan a utilizar la opción que salva más vidas.</p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>Xiana</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<meneame:order>2</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>--46364--</meneame:user>
		<meneame:votes>4</meneame:votes>
		<meneame:karma>60</meneame:karma>
		<meneame:url>https://www.meneame.net/story/desarrollan-higado-artificial-para-probar-medicamentos-sin-danar</meneame:url>
		<title>#2 Desarrollan un hígado artificial para probar medicamentos sin dañar animales</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/desarrollan-higado-artificial-para-probar-medicamentos-sin-danar/c02#c-2</link>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Jun 2009 14:31:50 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>--46364--</dc:creator>
		<guid>https://www.meneame.net/story/desarrollan-higado-artificial-para-probar-medicamentos-sin-danar/c02#c-2</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[<p>muy bien pero muchas veces los problemas de toxicidad se deben a que le hígado metaboliza un medicamento en otro compuesto que sale del hígado y es éste compuesto el que daña otros órganos. <br />
<br />
Realmente es un avance, pero el uso de organismos vivos seguirá siendo imprescindible para certificar la toxicidad definitiva de potenciales medicamentos.</p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>--46364--</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<meneame:comment_id>4422814</meneame:comment_id>
		<meneame:link_id>705896</meneame:link_id>
		<meneame:order>1</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>--3628--</meneame:user>
		<meneame:votes>6</meneame:votes>
		<meneame:karma>18</meneame:karma>
		<meneame:url>https://www.meneame.net/story/desarrollan-higado-artificial-para-probar-medicamentos-sin-danar</meneame:url>
		<title>#1 Desarrollan un hígado artificial para probar medicamentos sin dañar animales</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/desarrollan-higado-artificial-para-probar-medicamentos-sin-danar/c01#c-1</link>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Jun 2009 14:31:05 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>--3628--</dc:creator>
		<guid>https://www.meneame.net/story/desarrollan-higado-artificial-para-probar-medicamentos-sin-danar/c01#c-1</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[<p>y digo yo...¿no podríamos usar los ministros jubilados para probar medicamentos?</p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>--3628--</strong></p>]]></description>
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