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		<meneame:comment_id>2790319</meneame:comment_id>
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		<meneame:order>16</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>xukron</meneame:user>
		<meneame:votes>0</meneame:votes>
		<meneame:karma>6</meneame:karma>
		<meneame:url>https://www.meneame.net/story/microsoft-lanza-version-beta-2-ie-8</meneame:url>
		<title>#16 Microsoft lanza la version beta 2 de IE 8</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/microsoft-lanza-version-beta-2-ie-8/c016#c-16</link>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Sep 2008 21:22:24 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>xukron</dc:creator>
		<guid>https://www.meneame.net/story/microsoft-lanza-version-beta-2-ie-8/c016#c-16</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[<p>MOZILLA FIREFOX <img data-src="https://cdn.mnmstatic.net/v_149/img/menemojis/36/smiley.png" alt=":-)" title=":-)" width="18" height="18" src="https://cdn.mnmstatic.net/v_149/img/g.gif" class="emoji lazy" /></p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>xukron</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<meneame:comment_id>2787975</meneame:comment_id>
		<meneame:link_id>487447</meneame:link_id>
		<meneame:order>15</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>Json</meneame:user>
		<meneame:votes>1</meneame:votes>
		<meneame:karma>18</meneame:karma>
		<meneame:url>https://www.meneame.net/story/microsoft-lanza-version-beta-2-ie-8</meneame:url>
		<title>#15 Microsoft lanza la version beta 2 de IE 8</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/microsoft-lanza-version-beta-2-ie-8/c015#c-15</link>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Sep 2008 15:30:13 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Json</dc:creator>
		<guid>https://www.meneame.net/story/microsoft-lanza-version-beta-2-ie-8/c015#c-15</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[<p>Y a mi qué me importa que saquen la beta del ie8 cuando la mayoria de la gente aún va con ie6? <br />
<br />
Por favor, actualización automática hacia el ie7!</p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>Json</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<meneame:comment_id>2787763</meneame:comment_id>
		<meneame:link_id>487447</meneame:link_id>
		<meneame:order>14</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>macl</meneame:user>
		<meneame:votes>1</meneame:votes>
		<meneame:karma>1</meneame:karma>
		<meneame:url>https://www.meneame.net/story/microsoft-lanza-version-beta-2-ie-8</meneame:url>
		<title>#14 Microsoft lanza la version beta 2 de IE 8</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/microsoft-lanza-version-beta-2-ie-8/c014#c-14</link>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Sep 2008 15:02:10 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>macl</dc:creator>
		<guid>https://www.meneame.net/story/microsoft-lanza-version-beta-2-ie-8/c014#c-14</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[<p><a class="tooltip c:487447-6" href="https://www.meneame.net/story/microsoft-lanza-version-beta-2-ie-8/c06#c-6" rel="nofollow">#6</a> &#34;<em>no pretendo lanzar un ad hominem ni nada de eso, pero...</em>&#34;<br />
<br />
Pues menos mal, amigo <img data-src="https://cdn.mnmstatic.net/v_149/img/menemojis/36/smiley.png" alt=":-)" title=":-)" width="18" height="18" src="https://cdn.mnmstatic.net/v_149/img/g.gif" class="emoji lazy" /></p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>macl</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<meneame:comment_id>2787694</meneame:comment_id>
		<meneame:link_id>487447</meneame:link_id>
		<meneame:order>13</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>--41264--</meneame:user>
		<meneame:votes>4</meneame:votes>
		<meneame:karma>49</meneame:karma>
		<meneame:url>https://www.meneame.net/story/microsoft-lanza-version-beta-2-ie-8</meneame:url>
		<title>#13 Microsoft lanza la version beta 2 de IE 8</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/microsoft-lanza-version-beta-2-ie-8/c013#c-13</link>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Sep 2008 14:52:49 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>--41264--</dc:creator>
		<guid>https://www.meneame.net/story/microsoft-lanza-version-beta-2-ie-8/c013#c-13</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[<p><a class="tooltip c:487447-5" href="https://www.meneame.net/story/microsoft-lanza-version-beta-2-ie-8/c05#c-5" rel="nofollow">#5</a> &#34;Dudaba entre <strong>prosioneta</strong>, camello o desarrollador en .NET&#34;<br />
<br />
<img data-src="https://cdn.mnmstatic.net/v_149/img/menemojis/36/wow.png" alt="o_o" title="o_o :wow:" width="18" height="18" src="https://cdn.mnmstatic.net/v_149/img/g.gif" class="emoji lazy" /><br />
¿prosionista?<br />
Imagino que será &#34;proxeneta&#34;<br />
<br />
totalmente de acuerdo con <a class="tooltip c:487447-8" href="https://www.meneame.net/story/microsoft-lanza-version-beta-2-ie-8/c08#c-8" rel="nofollow">#8</a></p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>--41264--</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<meneame:comment_id>2787633</meneame:comment_id>
		<meneame:link_id>487447</meneame:link_id>
		<meneame:order>12</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>Napu</meneame:user>
		<meneame:votes>4</meneame:votes>
		<meneame:karma>47</meneame:karma>
		<meneame:url>https://www.meneame.net/story/microsoft-lanza-version-beta-2-ie-8</meneame:url>
		<title>#12 Microsoft lanza la version beta 2 de IE 8</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/microsoft-lanza-version-beta-2-ie-8/c012#c-12</link>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Sep 2008 14:46:52 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Napu</dc:creator>
		<guid>https://www.meneame.net/story/microsoft-lanza-version-beta-2-ie-8/c012#c-12</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[<p><a class="tooltip c:487447-5" href="https://www.meneame.net/story/microsoft-lanza-version-beta-2-ie-8/c05#c-5" rel="nofollow">#5</a> sabes que es mas triste aun? que si te fijas en <a href="http://www.vtortola.net/post/Asi-da-gusto-usar-Windows-Vista.aspx" title="www.vtortola.net/post/Asi-da-gusto-usar-Windows-Vista.aspx" rel="nofollow">www.vtortola.net/post/Asi-da-gusto-usar-Windows-Vista.aspx</a> tiene 4gb de ram y un sistema operativo de 32bits</p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>Napu</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<meneame:comment_id>2787391</meneame:comment_id>
		<meneame:link_id>487447</meneame:link_id>
		<meneame:order>11</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>--71705--</meneame:user>
		<meneame:votes>4</meneame:votes>
		<meneame:karma>-9</meneame:karma>
		<meneame:url>https://www.meneame.net/story/microsoft-lanza-version-beta-2-ie-8</meneame:url>
		<title>#11 Microsoft lanza la version beta 2 de IE 8</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/microsoft-lanza-version-beta-2-ie-8/c011#c-11</link>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Sep 2008 14:10:09 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>--71705--</dc:creator>
		<guid>https://www.meneame.net/story/microsoft-lanza-version-beta-2-ie-8/c011#c-11</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[<p>[Usuario deshabilitado]</p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>--71705--</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<meneame:comment_id>2787338</meneame:comment_id>
		<meneame:link_id>487447</meneame:link_id>
		<meneame:order>10</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>pinar</meneame:user>
		<meneame:votes>2</meneame:votes>
		<meneame:karma>35</meneame:karma>
		<meneame:url>https://www.meneame.net/story/microsoft-lanza-version-beta-2-ie-8</meneame:url>
		<title>#10 Microsoft lanza la version beta 2 de IE 8</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/microsoft-lanza-version-beta-2-ie-8/c010#c-10</link>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Sep 2008 14:02:37 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>pinar</dc:creator>
		<guid>https://www.meneame.net/story/microsoft-lanza-version-beta-2-ie-8/c010#c-10</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[<p>pero si la tengo instalada hace tiempo !!!!<br />
<br />
Sigue siendo la misma mierda, pero por desgracia las aplicaciones tienen que funcionar en IE. <br />
<br />
Al menos esta tiene herramientas de depuración. Que abriera el notepad para ver el código era lamentable<br />
<br />
Eso si, nada que ver con firebug, que sigue pegándole patadas en todos lados.</p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>pinar</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<meneame:comment_id>2787317</meneame:comment_id>
		<meneame:link_id>487447</meneame:link_id>
		<meneame:order>9</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>--10689--</meneame:user>
		<meneame:votes>4</meneame:votes>
		<meneame:karma>47</meneame:karma>
		<meneame:url>https://www.meneame.net/story/microsoft-lanza-version-beta-2-ie-8</meneame:url>
		<title>#9 Microsoft lanza la version beta 2 de IE 8</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/microsoft-lanza-version-beta-2-ie-8/c09#c-9</link>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Sep 2008 13:59:37 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>--10689--</dc:creator>
		<guid>https://www.meneame.net/story/microsoft-lanza-version-beta-2-ie-8/c09#c-9</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[<p><a class="tooltip c:487447-6" href="https://www.meneame.net/story/microsoft-lanza-version-beta-2-ie-8/c06#c-6" rel="nofollow">#6</a> Ya lo dijo Aristóteles, los <em>ad hominems</em> contra defensores de MS no cuentan. <br />
<br />
Es que se los merecen por ser fanboys de una empresa, en lugar de ser miembros de una Comunidad.</p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>--10689--</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<meneame:comment_id>2787308</meneame:comment_id>
		<meneame:link_id>487447</meneame:link_id>
		<meneame:order>8</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>Alvarete</meneame:user>
		<meneame:votes>8</meneame:votes>
		<meneame:karma>89</meneame:karma>
		<meneame:url>https://www.meneame.net/story/microsoft-lanza-version-beta-2-ie-8</meneame:url>
		<title>#8 Microsoft lanza la version beta 2 de IE 8</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/microsoft-lanza-version-beta-2-ie-8/c08#c-8</link>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Sep 2008 13:59:04 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Alvarete</dc:creator>
		<guid>https://www.meneame.net/story/microsoft-lanza-version-beta-2-ie-8/c08#c-8</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[<p><a class="tooltip c:487447-5" href="https://www.meneame.net/story/microsoft-lanza-version-beta-2-ie-8/c05#c-5" rel="nofollow">#5</a> &#34; se supone que &#34; <br />
<br />
De aquí a ley física oiga</p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>Alvarete</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<meneame:comment_id>2787297</meneame:comment_id>
		<meneame:link_id>487447</meneame:link_id>
		<meneame:order>7</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>SirKeldon</meneame:user>
		<meneame:votes>3</meneame:votes>
		<meneame:karma>43</meneame:karma>
		<meneame:url>https://www.meneame.net/story/microsoft-lanza-version-beta-2-ie-8</meneame:url>
		<title>#7 Microsoft lanza la version beta 2 de IE 8</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/microsoft-lanza-version-beta-2-ie-8/c07#c-7</link>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Sep 2008 13:58:10 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>SirKeldon</dc:creator>
		<guid>https://www.meneame.net/story/microsoft-lanza-version-beta-2-ie-8/c07#c-7</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[<p><a class="tooltip c:487447-5" href="https://www.meneame.net/story/microsoft-lanza-version-beta-2-ie-8/c05#c-5" rel="nofollow">#5</a> Gracias a tipos como tú Bill Gates puede decir aquello de: <em>&#34;Acabo de ganar un millón de dólares&#34;</em> <img data-src="https://cdn.mnmstatic.net/v_149/img/menemojis/36/lol.gif" alt="xD" title=":lol: xD" width="18" height="18" src="https://cdn.mnmstatic.net/v_149/img/g.gif" class="emoji lazy" /> <img data-src="https://cdn.mnmstatic.net/v_149/img/menemojis/36/lol.gif" alt="xD" title=":lol: xD" width="18" height="18" src="https://cdn.mnmstatic.net/v_149/img/g.gif" class="emoji lazy" /> o muchas otras, para más señas: <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=85U-eWCmiZA" title="www.youtube.com/watch?v=85U-eWCmiZA" rel="nofollow">www.youtube.com/watch?v=85U-eWCmiZA</a></p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>SirKeldon</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<meneame:comment_id>2787157</meneame:comment_id>
		<meneame:link_id>487447</meneame:link_id>
		<meneame:order>6</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>--23321--</meneame:user>
		<meneame:votes>41</meneame:votes>
		<meneame:karma>440</meneame:karma>
		<meneame:url>https://www.meneame.net/story/microsoft-lanza-version-beta-2-ie-8</meneame:url>
		<title>#6 Microsoft lanza la version beta 2 de IE 8</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/microsoft-lanza-version-beta-2-ie-8/c06#c-6</link>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Sep 2008 13:39:31 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>--23321--</dc:creator>
		<guid>https://www.meneame.net/story/microsoft-lanza-version-beta-2-ie-8/c06#c-6</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[<p><a class="tooltip c:487447-5" href="https://www.meneame.net/story/microsoft-lanza-version-beta-2-ie-8/c05#c-5" rel="nofollow">#5</a> Soy desarrollador web, tanto en mis ratos libres, como a la hora de trabajar, y es lo que me da de comer.<br />
<br />
Creo que se lo que digo y hablo con experiencia, cuando critico a Internet Explorer, así que hay que informarse mejor antes de juzgar a los demás, por mucho que mole dárselas de geek.<br />
<br />
Y si, he leído esas notas de prensa de Microsoft diciendo todo eso, pero sabes que? El pescatero dice siempre que su pescado es fresco, el carnicero que su carne es de primera, y el dueño de la inmobiliaria que los pisos nunca iban a bajar, entonces...por que debería creerme eso de microsoft? cuando son una empresa monopolista, mentirosa y destructiva? Eso es un poco iluso <img data-src="https://cdn.mnmstatic.net/v_149/img/menemojis/36/smiley.png" alt=":-)" title=":-)" width="18" height="18" src="https://cdn.mnmstatic.net/v_149/img/g.gif" class="emoji lazy" /><br />
<br />
Por cierto, como no entendía esa defensa tuya a microsoft, he mirado por la web que aparece en tu perfil, no pretendo lanzar un ad hominem ni nada de eso, pero: <a href="http://www.vtortola.net/" title="www.vtortola.net/" rel="nofollow">www.vtortola.net/</a>, con lo de &#34;Microsoft certified perofessional developer&#34; a la derecha de tu página, ya me lo has dicho todo...no digo que sea nada malo ni bueno, ni te juzgo por ello, pero ya me lo has dicho todo.<br />
<br />
Por cierto <a class="tooltip c:487447-5" href="https://www.meneame.net/story/microsoft-lanza-version-beta-2-ie-8/c05#c-5" rel="nofollow">#5</a>, que miedo: <a href="http://www.vtortola.net/page/Libros.aspx" title="www.vtortola.net/page/Libros.aspx" rel="nofollow">www.vtortola.net/page/Libros.aspx</a> <img data-src="https://cdn.mnmstatic.net/v_149/img/menemojis/36/smiley.png" alt=":-)" title=":-)" width="18" height="18" src="https://cdn.mnmstatic.net/v_149/img/g.gif" class="emoji lazy" /><br />
<br />
Y por cierto, en este artículo ya me has dado miedo: <a href="http://www.vtortola.net/post/Asi-da-gusto-usar-Windows-Vista.aspx" title="www.vtortola.net/post/Asi-da-gusto-usar-Windows-Vista.aspx" rel="nofollow">www.vtortola.net/post/Asi-da-gusto-usar-Windows-Vista.aspx</a><br />
<br />
No solo se titula: <em>así da gusto usar windows vista</em>, es que incluso la alfombrilla del ratón es de microsoft joder...</p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>--23321--</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<meneame:comment_id>2787053</meneame:comment_id>
		<meneame:link_id>487447</meneame:link_id>
		<meneame:order>5</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>--71705--</meneame:user>
		<meneame:votes>18</meneame:votes>
		<meneame:karma>-112</meneame:karma>
		<meneame:url>https://www.meneame.net/story/microsoft-lanza-version-beta-2-ie-8</meneame:url>
		<title>#5 Microsoft lanza la version beta 2 de IE 8</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/microsoft-lanza-version-beta-2-ie-8/c05#c-5</link>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Sep 2008 13:29:13 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>--71705--</dc:creator>
		<guid>https://www.meneame.net/story/microsoft-lanza-version-beta-2-ie-8/c05#c-5</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[<p>[Usuario deshabilitado]</p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>--71705--</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<meneame:comment_id>2787017</meneame:comment_id>
		<meneame:link_id>487447</meneame:link_id>
		<meneame:order>4</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>Konamiman</meneame:user>
		<meneame:votes>2</meneame:votes>
		<meneame:karma>22</meneame:karma>
		<meneame:url>https://www.meneame.net/story/microsoft-lanza-version-beta-2-ie-8</meneame:url>
		<title>#4 Microsoft lanza la version beta 2 de IE 8</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/microsoft-lanza-version-beta-2-ie-8/c04#c-4</link>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Sep 2008 13:25:19 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Konamiman</dc:creator>
		<guid>https://www.meneame.net/story/microsoft-lanza-version-beta-2-ie-8/c04#c-4</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[<p><em>al tratarse de una versión de prueba, no se recomienda desinstalar los otros navegadores, pues no funciona bien con todos los sitios web</em><br />
<br />
Esa frase, quitando el &#34;al tratarse de una versión de prueba&#34;, es aplicable a todas las versiones de IE.</p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>Konamiman</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<meneame:comment_id>2787015</meneame:comment_id>
		<meneame:link_id>487447</meneame:link_id>
		<meneame:order>3</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>Alvarete</meneame:user>
		<meneame:votes>4</meneame:votes>
		<meneame:karma>44</meneame:karma>
		<meneame:url>https://www.meneame.net/story/microsoft-lanza-version-beta-2-ie-8</meneame:url>
		<title>#3 Microsoft lanza la version beta 2 de IE 8</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/microsoft-lanza-version-beta-2-ie-8/c03#c-3</link>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Sep 2008 13:25:11 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Alvarete</dc:creator>
		<guid>https://www.meneame.net/story/microsoft-lanza-version-beta-2-ie-8/c03#c-3</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[<p>Corre el rumor de que PNG es transparente en Iexplore</p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>Alvarete</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<meneame:comment_id>2787001</meneame:comment_id>
		<meneame:link_id>487447</meneame:link_id>
		<meneame:order>2</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>--94589--</meneame:user>
		<meneame:votes>0</meneame:votes>
		<meneame:karma>8</meneame:karma>
		<meneame:url>https://www.meneame.net/story/microsoft-lanza-version-beta-2-ie-8</meneame:url>
		<title>#2 Microsoft lanza la version beta 2 de IE 8</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/microsoft-lanza-version-beta-2-ie-8/c02#c-2</link>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Sep 2008 13:23:44 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>--94589--</dc:creator>
		<guid>https://www.meneame.net/story/microsoft-lanza-version-beta-2-ie-8/c02#c-2</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[<p>¿y que han cambiado? ¿que es más bonito? me quedo con mi firefox</p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>--94589--</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<meneame:comment_id>2786997</meneame:comment_id>
		<meneame:link_id>487447</meneame:link_id>
		<meneame:order>1</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>--23321--</meneame:user>
		<meneame:votes>9</meneame:votes>
		<meneame:karma>66</meneame:karma>
		<meneame:url>https://www.meneame.net/story/microsoft-lanza-version-beta-2-ie-8</meneame:url>
		<title>#1 Microsoft lanza la version beta 2 de IE 8</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/microsoft-lanza-version-beta-2-ie-8/c01#c-1</link>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Sep 2008 13:23:29 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>--23321--</dc:creator>
		<guid>https://www.meneame.net/story/microsoft-lanza-version-beta-2-ie-8/c01#c-1</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[<p>Corrección: microsoft amenaza con seguir sacando versiones de IE, cada una interpretando el CSS y el JS a su manera, hasta que todos nos volvamos locos.</p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>--23321--</strong></p>]]></description>
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