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		<meneame:comment_id>2157027</meneame:comment_id>
		<meneame:link_id>406973</meneame:link_id>
		<meneame:order>31</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>f5inet</meneame:user>
		<meneame:votes>0</meneame:votes>
		<meneame:karma>6</meneame:karma>
		<meneame:url>https://www.meneame.net/story/java-finalmente-libre-100-noticia-ingles</meneame:url>
		<title>#31 Java finalmente libre 100% [EN]</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/java-finalmente-libre-100-noticia-ingles/c031#c-31</link>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Jun 2008 07:33:28 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>f5inet</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[<p><a class="tooltip c:406973-25" href="https://www.meneame.net/story/java-finalmente-libre-100-noticia-ingles/c025#c-25" rel="nofollow">#25</a> por supuesto que me dare cuenta de la cruda verdad: Java es mas rapido que C/C++<br />
<br />
ah... ¿que no te lo crees? bueno, quizas el compilador JIT, la refactorizacion del codigo que ha sido ejecutado mas de 10 veces, el uso automatico de nuevos sets de instrucciones de la CPU, el uso de las nuevas GPU (NVIDIA CUDA y AMD CTM van a dar mucho de que hablar) cuando estas esten disponibles...<br />
<br />
si, Java es mas rapido que C/C++</p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>f5inet</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<meneame:comment_id>2156875</meneame:comment_id>
		<meneame:link_id>406973</meneame:link_id>
		<meneame:order>30</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>--67296--</meneame:user>
		<meneame:votes>0</meneame:votes>
		<meneame:karma>8</meneame:karma>
		<meneame:url>https://www.meneame.net/story/java-finalmente-libre-100-noticia-ingles</meneame:url>
		<title>#30 Java finalmente libre 100% [EN]</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/java-finalmente-libre-100-noticia-ingles/c030#c-30</link>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Jun 2008 07:08:01 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>--67296--</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[<p>La solución es lo que se está haciendo en GCJ: <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GNU_Compiler_for_Java" title="en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GNU_Compiler_for_Java" rel="nofollow">en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GNU_Compiler_for_Java</a><br />
<br />
<em>It can compile Java source code to either Java Virtual Machine bytecode, or directly to machine code</em></p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>--67296--</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<meneame:comment_id>2156665</meneame:comment_id>
		<meneame:link_id>406973</meneame:link_id>
		<meneame:order>29</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>brunix</meneame:user>
		<meneame:votes>2</meneame:votes>
		<meneame:karma>5</meneame:karma>
		<meneame:url>https://www.meneame.net/story/java-finalmente-libre-100-noticia-ingles</meneame:url>
		<title>#29 Java finalmente libre 100% [EN]</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/java-finalmente-libre-100-noticia-ingles/c029#c-29</link>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Jun 2008 05:30:32 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>brunix</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[<p>Es verdad que java es un lenguaje interpretado, lo que lo hace lento es que el cogido binario se precompila para una &#34;máquina virtual&#34;, y luego la máquina virtual en la plataforma que este (x86, powerpc, windows, mac, Linux en las combinaciones que se les ocurran) interpreta el código precompilado y se lo tira al sistema operativo de turno, estos pasos son lo que hacen que java sea lento. Pero  que pasa si los sistemas operativos integran esa máquina virtual, correrían el código como nativo, bueno todo esto se esta haciendo de a poco, incluso los procesadores estan integrando instrucciones para facilitar esta tarea, si bien va lenta la cosa, con liberar el cógido ya se esta dando un paso, creo que la época dorada de java esta aún por venir</p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>brunix</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<meneame:comment_id>2156113</meneame:comment_id>
		<meneame:link_id>406973</meneame:link_id>
		<meneame:order>28</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>mko2</meneame:user>
		<meneame:votes>0</meneame:votes>
		<meneame:karma>6</meneame:karma>
		<meneame:url>https://www.meneame.net/story/java-finalmente-libre-100-noticia-ingles</meneame:url>
		<title>#28 Java finalmente libre 100% [EN]</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/java-finalmente-libre-100-noticia-ingles/c028#c-28</link>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Jun 2008 23:23:12 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>mko2</dc:creator>
		<guid>https://www.meneame.net/story/java-finalmente-libre-100-noticia-ingles/c028#c-28</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[<p>hace unos meses en pruebas propias de rendimieto matematico c resulto 60 veces mas eficiente que python, y python algo mas que java(amen de facil y elegante), asi que puedes seguir engañandote pero pruebas como esta hay mil en internet</p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>mko2</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<meneame:comment_id>2155933</meneame:comment_id>
		<meneame:link_id>406973</meneame:link_id>
		<meneame:order>27</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>monchi_enxebre</meneame:user>
		<meneame:votes>0</meneame:votes>
		<meneame:karma>6</meneame:karma>
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		<title>#27 Java finalmente libre 100% [EN]</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/java-finalmente-libre-100-noticia-ingles/c027#c-27</link>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Jun 2008 22:50:56 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>monchi_enxebre</dc:creator>
		<guid>https://www.meneame.net/story/java-finalmente-libre-100-noticia-ingles/c027#c-27</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[<p><a class="tooltip c:406973-19" href="https://www.meneame.net/story/java-finalmente-libre-100-noticia-ingles/c019#c-19" rel="nofollow">#19</a> <a href="http://www.tiobe.com/index.php/content/paperinfo/tpci/index.html" title="www.tiobe.com/index.php/content/paperinfo/tpci/index.html" rel="nofollow">www.tiobe.com/index.php/content/paperinfo/tpci/index.html</a></p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>monchi_enxebre</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<meneame:comment_id>2155910</meneame:comment_id>
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		<meneame:order>26</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>bmw4life</meneame:user>
		<meneame:votes>1</meneame:votes>
		<meneame:karma>-2</meneame:karma>
		<meneame:url>https://www.meneame.net/story/java-finalmente-libre-100-noticia-ingles</meneame:url>
		<title>#26 Java finalmente libre 100% [EN]</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/java-finalmente-libre-100-noticia-ingles/c026#c-26</link>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Jun 2008 22:46:52 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>bmw4life</dc:creator>
		<guid>https://www.meneame.net/story/java-finalmente-libre-100-noticia-ingles/c026#c-26</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[<p>Una pena (o quizás no) que esto ocurra cuando Java tiene los días contados.</p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>bmw4life</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<meneame:comment_id>2155869</meneame:comment_id>
		<meneame:link_id>406973</meneame:link_id>
		<meneame:order>25</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>damocles</meneame:user>
		<meneame:votes>0</meneame:votes>
		<meneame:karma>8</meneame:karma>
		<meneame:url>https://www.meneame.net/story/java-finalmente-libre-100-noticia-ingles</meneame:url>
		<title>#25 Java finalmente libre 100% [EN]</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/java-finalmente-libre-100-noticia-ingles/c025#c-25</link>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Jun 2008 22:41:41 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>damocles</dc:creator>
		<guid>https://www.meneame.net/story/java-finalmente-libre-100-noticia-ingles/c025#c-25</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[<p><a class="tooltip c:406973-18" href="https://www.meneame.net/story/java-finalmente-libre-100-noticia-ingles/c018#c-18" rel="nofollow">#18</a> mas que documentarse es probarlo directamente: haz un programa en Java y el mismo en C++ (en diferentes escenarios por ejemplo: alto procesamiento matemático, gráficos, animación, formularios, etc...) y en vivo y en directo te darás cuenta cuál es la cruda verdad.</p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>damocles</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<meneame:comment_id>2155709</meneame:comment_id>
		<meneame:link_id>406973</meneame:link_id>
		<meneame:order>24</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>pom</meneame:user>
		<meneame:votes>0</meneame:votes>
		<meneame:karma>6</meneame:karma>
		<meneame:url>https://www.meneame.net/story/java-finalmente-libre-100-noticia-ingles</meneame:url>
		<title>#24 Java finalmente libre 100% [EN]</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/java-finalmente-libre-100-noticia-ingles/c024#c-24</link>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Jun 2008 22:13:28 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>pom</dc:creator>
		<guid>https://www.meneame.net/story/java-finalmente-libre-100-noticia-ingles/c024#c-24</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[<p><a class="tooltip c:406973-23" href="https://www.meneame.net/story/java-finalmente-libre-100-noticia-ingles/c023#c-23" rel="nofollow">#23</a> De hecho yo diria que a Cobol le quedan aun otras tantas decadas... teniendo en cuenta que toda la banca se mueve bien gracias a ello no creo que llegue a desaparecer (migrar partes tan sensibles implicaria riegos innecesarios).</p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>pom</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<meneame:comment_id>2155485</meneame:comment_id>
		<meneame:link_id>406973</meneame:link_id>
		<meneame:order>23</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>davidcordon</meneame:user>
		<meneame:votes>0</meneame:votes>
		<meneame:karma>6</meneame:karma>
		<meneame:url>https://www.meneame.net/story/java-finalmente-libre-100-noticia-ingles</meneame:url>
		<title>#23 Java finalmente libre 100% [EN]</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/java-finalmente-libre-100-noticia-ingles/c023#c-23</link>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Jun 2008 21:34:52 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>davidcordon</dc:creator>
		<guid>https://www.meneame.net/story/java-finalmente-libre-100-noticia-ingles/c023#c-23</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[<p><a class="tooltip c:406973-21" href="https://www.meneame.net/story/java-finalmente-libre-100-noticia-ingles/c021#c-21" rel="nofollow">#21</a> Cobol sigue dando coletazos por la herencia que trae de los años 90, pero poco a poco su uso se va a ir limitando. <br />
<em>Cobol is a procedural language in an object-oriented world</em></p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>davidcordon</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<meneame:comment_id>2155393</meneame:comment_id>
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		<meneame:order>22</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>--67296--</meneame:user>
		<meneame:votes>0</meneame:votes>
		<meneame:karma>8</meneame:karma>
		<meneame:url>https://www.meneame.net/story/java-finalmente-libre-100-noticia-ingles</meneame:url>
		<title>#22 Java finalmente libre 100% [EN]</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/java-finalmente-libre-100-noticia-ingles/c022#c-22</link>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Jun 2008 21:23:20 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>--67296--</dc:creator>
		<guid>https://www.meneame.net/story/java-finalmente-libre-100-noticia-ingles/c022#c-22</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[<p>Y plugin para navegadores de 64 bits... imperdonable que Sun a estas alturas no haya sacado el oficial.</p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>--67296--</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<meneame:comment_id>2155339</meneame:comment_id>
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		<meneame:order>21</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>--17378--</meneame:user>
		<meneame:votes>2</meneame:votes>
		<meneame:karma>20</meneame:karma>
		<meneame:url>https://www.meneame.net/story/java-finalmente-libre-100-noticia-ingles</meneame:url>
		<title>#21 Java finalmente libre 100% [EN]</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/java-finalmente-libre-100-noticia-ingles/c021#c-21</link>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Jun 2008 21:15:02 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>--17378--</dc:creator>
		<guid>https://www.meneame.net/story/java-finalmente-libre-100-noticia-ingles/c021#c-21</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[<p>[Usuario deshabilitado]</p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>--17378--</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<meneame:comment_id>2155264</meneame:comment_id>
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		<meneame:order>20</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>--66738--</meneame:user>
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		<meneame:karma>21</meneame:karma>
		<meneame:url>https://www.meneame.net/story/java-finalmente-libre-100-noticia-ingles</meneame:url>
		<title>#20 Java finalmente libre 100% [EN]</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/java-finalmente-libre-100-noticia-ingles/c020#c-20</link>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Jun 2008 21:03:13 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>--66738--</dc:creator>
		<guid>https://www.meneame.net/story/java-finalmente-libre-100-noticia-ingles/c020#c-20</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[<p>[Usuario deshabilitado]</p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>--66738--</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<meneame:comment_id>2155209</meneame:comment_id>
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		<meneame:order>19</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>--17378--</meneame:user>
		<meneame:votes>1</meneame:votes>
		<meneame:karma>15</meneame:karma>
		<meneame:url>https://www.meneame.net/story/java-finalmente-libre-100-noticia-ingles</meneame:url>
		<title>#19 Java finalmente libre 100% [EN]</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/java-finalmente-libre-100-noticia-ingles/c019#c-19</link>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Jun 2008 20:53:13 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>--17378--</dc:creator>
		<guid>https://www.meneame.net/story/java-finalmente-libre-100-noticia-ingles/c019#c-19</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[<p>[Usuario deshabilitado]</p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>--17378--</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<meneame:comment_id>2155184</meneame:comment_id>
		<meneame:link_id>406973</meneame:link_id>
		<meneame:order>18</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>pom</meneame:user>
		<meneame:votes>0</meneame:votes>
		<meneame:karma>6</meneame:karma>
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		<title>#18 Java finalmente libre 100% [EN]</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/java-finalmente-libre-100-noticia-ingles/c018#c-18</link>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Jun 2008 20:49:52 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>pom</dc:creator>
		<guid>https://www.meneame.net/story/java-finalmente-libre-100-noticia-ingles/c018#c-18</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[<p>Para los que piensan que Java no es adecuado para aplicaciones de escritorio... yo diria más bien 'no era adecuado'. Estos ultimos años con la evolucion de los microprocesadores (ya son casi todo multicore) y en especial el aumento de RAM hacen que cualquier cosa pueda correr rapido. Se acabaron los tiempos en los que tener abierto un firefox y un azureus era solo para valientes...<br />
<br />
En cuanto a eficiencia como lenguaje, mucha gente tiene la falsa creencia de que es 10 veces más lento que C/C++ y paranoias de ese estilo... solo puedo aconsejar que se documenten <img data-src="https://cdn.mnmstatic.net/v_149/img/menemojis/36/wink.png" alt=";)" title=";)" width="18" height="18" src="https://cdn.mnmstatic.net/v_149/img/g.gif" class="emoji lazy" /></p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>pom</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<meneame:comment_id>2155134</meneame:comment_id>
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		<meneame:order>17</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>--525--</meneame:user>
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		<meneame:karma>8</meneame:karma>
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		<title>#17 Java finalmente libre 100% [EN]</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/java-finalmente-libre-100-noticia-ingles/c017#c-17</link>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Jun 2008 20:41:04 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>--525--</dc:creator>
		<guid>https://www.meneame.net/story/java-finalmente-libre-100-noticia-ingles/c017#c-17</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[<p>Me alegro porque por fin sacarán java libre integrado plenamente en las distribuciones.<br />
<br />
¿Van a sacar una versión para powerpc y otras arquitecturas? Sería la repera tener un solo binario para todo.</p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>--525--</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<meneame:comment_id>2155131</meneame:comment_id>
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		<meneame:order>16</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>ohrphan</meneame:user>
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		<meneame:karma>6</meneame:karma>
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		<title>#16 Java finalmente libre 100% [EN]</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/java-finalmente-libre-100-noticia-ingles/c016#c-16</link>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Jun 2008 20:40:43 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>ohrphan</dc:creator>
		<guid>https://www.meneame.net/story/java-finalmente-libre-100-noticia-ingles/c016#c-16</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[<p><a class="tooltip c:406973-11" href="https://www.meneame.net/story/java-finalmente-libre-100-noticia-ingles/c011#c-11" rel="nofollow">#11</a> y <a class="tooltip c:406973-4" href="https://www.meneame.net/story/java-finalmente-libre-100-noticia-ingles/c04#c-4" rel="nofollow">#4</a>, y hay más esta semana, Red Hat está de Fallas con su Summit <img data-src="https://cdn.mnmstatic.net/v_149/img/menemojis/36/wink.png" alt=";)" title=";)" width="18" height="18" src="https://cdn.mnmstatic.net/v_149/img/g.gif" class="emoji lazy" /> : <a href="http://www.devxnews.com/article.php/3754171" title="www.devxnews.com/article.php/3754171" rel="nofollow">www.devxnews.com/article.php/3754171</a><br />
y noticias desde allí: <a href="http://www.redhatmagazine.com/" title="www.redhatmagazine.com/" rel="nofollow">www.redhatmagazine.com/</a></p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>ohrphan</strong></p>]]></description>
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	<item>
		<meneame:comment_id>2155112</meneame:comment_id>
		<meneame:link_id>406973</meneame:link_id>
		<meneame:order>15</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>unf</meneame:user>
		<meneame:votes>0</meneame:votes>
		<meneame:karma>10</meneame:karma>
		<meneame:url>https://www.meneame.net/story/java-finalmente-libre-100-noticia-ingles</meneame:url>
		<title>#15 Java finalmente libre 100% [EN]</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/java-finalmente-libre-100-noticia-ingles/c015#c-15</link>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Jun 2008 20:37:30 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>unf</dc:creator>
		<guid>https://www.meneame.net/story/java-finalmente-libre-100-noticia-ingles/c015#c-15</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[<p>No lo he entendido muy bien. Todo este nuevo código, ¿se va a incluir en el SDK de Sun?</p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>unf</strong></p>]]></description>
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	<item>
		<meneame:comment_id>2155005</meneame:comment_id>
		<meneame:link_id>406973</meneame:link_id>
		<meneame:order>14</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>--3560--</meneame:user>
		<meneame:votes>1</meneame:votes>
		<meneame:karma>17</meneame:karma>
		<meneame:url>https://www.meneame.net/story/java-finalmente-libre-100-noticia-ingles</meneame:url>
		<title>#14 Java finalmente libre 100% [EN]</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/java-finalmente-libre-100-noticia-ingles/c014#c-14</link>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Jun 2008 20:09:49 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>--3560--</dc:creator>
		<guid>https://www.meneame.net/story/java-finalmente-libre-100-noticia-ingles/c014#c-14</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[<p><a class="tooltip c:406973-12" href="https://www.meneame.net/story/java-finalmente-libre-100-noticia-ingles/c012#c-12" rel="nofollow">#12</a> Pues lo que haya costado el desarrollo de .net + mono, porque es lo que ha motivado la liberación.</p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>--3560--</strong></p>]]></description>
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	<item>
		<meneame:comment_id>2155003</meneame:comment_id>
		<meneame:link_id>406973</meneame:link_id>
		<meneame:order>13</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>--66565--</meneame:user>
		<meneame:votes>0</meneame:votes>
		<meneame:karma>6</meneame:karma>
		<meneame:url>https://www.meneame.net/story/java-finalmente-libre-100-noticia-ingles</meneame:url>
		<title>#13 Java finalmente libre 100% [EN]</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/java-finalmente-libre-100-noticia-ingles/c013#c-13</link>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Jun 2008 20:09:25 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>--66565--</dc:creator>
		<guid>https://www.meneame.net/story/java-finalmente-libre-100-noticia-ingles/c013#c-13</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[<p>¡¡Por fin Java es libre!!.<br />
<br />
Para mi , Java es uno de los mejores lenguajes orientado a objetos y con este paso , va a conseguir que aumente su presencia en Linux.</p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>--66565--</strong></p>]]></description>
	</item>

	<item>
		<meneame:comment_id>2154951</meneame:comment_id>
		<meneame:link_id>406973</meneame:link_id>
		<meneame:order>12</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>kadmon</meneame:user>
		<meneame:votes>4</meneame:votes>
		<meneame:karma>34</meneame:karma>
		<meneame:url>https://www.meneame.net/story/java-finalmente-libre-100-noticia-ingles</meneame:url>
		<title>#12 Java finalmente libre 100% [EN]</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/java-finalmente-libre-100-noticia-ingles/c012#c-12</link>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Jun 2008 19:58:06 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>kadmon</dc:creator>
		<guid>https://www.meneame.net/story/java-finalmente-libre-100-noticia-ingles/c012#c-12</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[<p>Oye... ¿y se sabe de cuanto fue el rescate?</p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>kadmon</strong></p>]]></description>
	</item>

	<item>
		<meneame:comment_id>2154902</meneame:comment_id>
		<meneame:link_id>406973</meneame:link_id>
		<meneame:order>11</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>--76119--</meneame:user>
		<meneame:votes>4</meneame:votes>
		<meneame:karma>34</meneame:karma>
		<meneame:url>https://www.meneame.net/story/java-finalmente-libre-100-noticia-ingles</meneame:url>
		<title>#11 Java finalmente libre 100% [EN]</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/java-finalmente-libre-100-noticia-ingles/c011#c-11</link>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Jun 2008 19:50:22 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>--76119--</dc:creator>
		<guid>https://www.meneame.net/story/java-finalmente-libre-100-noticia-ingles/c011#c-11</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[<p>[Usuario deshabilitado]</p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>--76119--</strong></p>]]></description>
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	<item>
		<meneame:comment_id>2154899</meneame:comment_id>
		<meneame:link_id>406973</meneame:link_id>
		<meneame:order>10</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>leven</meneame:user>
		<meneame:votes>0</meneame:votes>
		<meneame:karma>6</meneame:karma>
		<meneame:url>https://www.meneame.net/story/java-finalmente-libre-100-noticia-ingles</meneame:url>
		<title>#10 Java finalmente libre 100% [EN]</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/java-finalmente-libre-100-noticia-ingles/c010#c-10</link>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Jun 2008 19:49:42 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>leven</dc:creator>
		<guid>https://www.meneame.net/story/java-finalmente-libre-100-noticia-ingles/c010#c-10</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[<p>Fantástico, qué buena semana para el Software libre! <br />
=D</p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>leven</strong></p>]]></description>
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	<item>
		<meneame:comment_id>2154896</meneame:comment_id>
		<meneame:link_id>406973</meneame:link_id>
		<meneame:order>9</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>mko2</meneame:user>
		<meneame:votes>7</meneame:votes>
		<meneame:karma>59</meneame:karma>
		<meneame:url>https://www.meneame.net/story/java-finalmente-libre-100-noticia-ingles</meneame:url>
		<title>#9 Java finalmente libre 100% [EN]</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/java-finalmente-libre-100-noticia-ingles/c09#c-9</link>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Jun 2008 19:48:48 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>mko2</dc:creator>
		<guid>https://www.meneame.net/story/java-finalmente-libre-100-noticia-ingles/c09#c-9</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[<p><a class="tooltip c:406973-6" href="https://www.meneame.net/story/java-finalmente-libre-100-noticia-ingles/c06#c-6" rel="nofollow">#6</a> ojala las aplicaciones de escritorio nunca usen algo tan pesado como java, el lenguaje de alto nivel para linux es <strong>python</strong></p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>mko2</strong></p>]]></description>
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	<item>
		<meneame:comment_id>2154887</meneame:comment_id>
		<meneame:link_id>406973</meneame:link_id>
		<meneame:order>8</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>--3560--</meneame:user>
		<meneame:votes>7</meneame:votes>
		<meneame:karma>65</meneame:karma>
		<meneame:url>https://www.meneame.net/story/java-finalmente-libre-100-noticia-ingles</meneame:url>
		<title>#8 Java finalmente libre 100% [EN]</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/java-finalmente-libre-100-noticia-ingles/c08#c-8</link>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Jun 2008 19:47:27 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>--3560--</dc:creator>
		<guid>https://www.meneame.net/story/java-finalmente-libre-100-noticia-ingles/c08#c-8</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[<p>Java ya es libre... ahora sólo falta que nosotros nos libremos de Java <img data-src="https://cdn.mnmstatic.net/v_149/img/menemojis/36/roll.gif" alt=":roll:" title=":roll:" width="18" height="18" src="https://cdn.mnmstatic.net/v_149/img/g.gif" class="emoji lazy" /></p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>--3560--</strong></p>]]></description>
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	<item>
		<meneame:comment_id>2154876</meneame:comment_id>
		<meneame:link_id>406973</meneame:link_id>
		<meneame:order>7</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>quicksort</meneame:user>
		<meneame:votes>2</meneame:votes>
		<meneame:karma>21</meneame:karma>
		<meneame:url>https://www.meneame.net/story/java-finalmente-libre-100-noticia-ingles</meneame:url>
		<title>#7 Java finalmente libre 100% [EN]</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/java-finalmente-libre-100-noticia-ingles/c07#c-7</link>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Jun 2008 19:45:59 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>quicksort</dc:creator>
		<guid>https://www.meneame.net/story/java-finalmente-libre-100-noticia-ingles/c07#c-7</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[<p>Hace no mucho parecía impensable y por eso se hablaba tanto de Mono como la alternativa a Java para desarrollo de software libre.</p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>quicksort</strong></p>]]></description>
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	<item>
		<meneame:comment_id>2154847</meneame:comment_id>
		<meneame:link_id>406973</meneame:link_id>
		<meneame:order>6</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>--71043--</meneame:user>
		<meneame:votes>4</meneame:votes>
		<meneame:karma>36</meneame:karma>
		<meneame:url>https://www.meneame.net/story/java-finalmente-libre-100-noticia-ingles</meneame:url>
		<title>#6 Java finalmente libre 100% [EN]</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/java-finalmente-libre-100-noticia-ingles/c06#c-6</link>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Jun 2008 19:40:30 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>--71043--</dc:creator>
		<guid>https://www.meneame.net/story/java-finalmente-libre-100-noticia-ingles/c06#c-6</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[<p>¡Por fin veremos las distribuciones Linux con Java verdaderamente integrado, incluyendo las aplicaciones de escritorio! ¡Hip hip hurra!<br />
<br />
Ya sólo falta que Java siga evolucionando y no se estanque donde ha llegado... habrá que esperar.</p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>--71043--</strong></p>]]></description>
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	<item>
		<meneame:comment_id>2154840</meneame:comment_id>
		<meneame:link_id>406973</meneame:link_id>
		<meneame:order>5</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>--71352--</meneame:user>
		<meneame:votes>0</meneame:votes>
		<meneame:karma>7</meneame:karma>
		<meneame:url>https://www.meneame.net/story/java-finalmente-libre-100-noticia-ingles</meneame:url>
		<title>#5 Java finalmente libre 100% [EN]</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/java-finalmente-libre-100-noticia-ingles/c05#c-5</link>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Jun 2008 19:39:30 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>--71352--</dc:creator>
		<guid>https://www.meneame.net/story/java-finalmente-libre-100-noticia-ingles/c05#c-5</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[<p>[Usuario deshabilitado]</p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>--71352--</strong></p>]]></description>
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	<item>
		<meneame:comment_id>2154836</meneame:comment_id>
		<meneame:link_id>406973</meneame:link_id>
		<meneame:order>4</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>--45096--</meneame:user>
		<meneame:votes>5</meneame:votes>
		<meneame:karma>50</meneame:karma>
		<meneame:url>https://www.meneame.net/story/java-finalmente-libre-100-noticia-ingles</meneame:url>
		<title>#4 Java finalmente libre 100% [EN]</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/java-finalmente-libre-100-noticia-ingles/c04#c-4</link>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Jun 2008 19:38:58 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>--45096--</dc:creator>
		<guid>https://www.meneame.net/story/java-finalmente-libre-100-noticia-ingles/c04#c-4</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[<p>Hay que reconocer el trabajo que ha hecho Red Hat para conseguir está noticia. El día del lanzamiento de openSUSE 11 por Novell  que cabrones. <img data-src="https://cdn.mnmstatic.net/v_149/img/menemojis/36/lol.gif" alt="xD" title=":lol: xD" width="18" height="18" src="https://cdn.mnmstatic.net/v_149/img/g.gif" class="emoji lazy" /></p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>--45096--</strong></p>]]></description>
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	<item>
		<meneame:comment_id>2154827</meneame:comment_id>
		<meneame:link_id>406973</meneame:link_id>
		<meneame:order>3</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>Karmaggedon</meneame:user>
		<meneame:votes>3</meneame:votes>
		<meneame:karma>14</meneame:karma>
		<meneame:url>https://www.meneame.net/story/java-finalmente-libre-100-noticia-ingles</meneame:url>
		<title>#3 Java finalmente libre 100% [EN]</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/java-finalmente-libre-100-noticia-ingles/c03#c-3</link>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Jun 2008 19:37:44 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Karmaggedon</dc:creator>
		<guid>https://www.meneame.net/story/java-finalmente-libre-100-noticia-ingles/c03#c-3</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[<p><a class="tooltip c:406973-2" href="https://www.meneame.net/story/java-finalmente-libre-100-noticia-ingles/c02#c-2" rel="nofollow">#2</a> no podría estar más de acuerdo contigo. Viva la libertad informática!!</p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>Karmaggedon</strong></p>]]></description>
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	<item>
		<meneame:comment_id>2154815</meneame:comment_id>
		<meneame:link_id>406973</meneame:link_id>
		<meneame:order>2</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>--4678--</meneame:user>
		<meneame:votes>20</meneame:votes>
		<meneame:karma>171</meneame:karma>
		<meneame:url>https://www.meneame.net/story/java-finalmente-libre-100-noticia-ingles</meneame:url>
		<title>#2 Java finalmente libre 100% [EN]</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/java-finalmente-libre-100-noticia-ingles/c02#c-2</link>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Jun 2008 19:35:31 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>--4678--</dc:creator>
		<guid>https://www.meneame.net/story/java-finalmente-libre-100-noticia-ingles/c02#c-2</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[<p>Mientras el mundo informático cada vez va siendo más libre, en el real día a día perdemos más libertades.<br />
Enhorabuena por la gran noticia ^^</p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>--4678--</strong></p>]]></description>
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	<item>
		<meneame:comment_id>2154692</meneame:comment_id>
		<meneame:link_id>406973</meneame:link_id>
		<meneame:order>1</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>--72717--</meneame:user>
		<meneame:votes>14</meneame:votes>
		<meneame:karma>118</meneame:karma>
		<meneame:url>https://www.meneame.net/story/java-finalmente-libre-100-noticia-ingles</meneame:url>
		<title>#1 Java finalmente libre 100% [EN]</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/java-finalmente-libre-100-noticia-ingles/c01#c-1</link>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Jun 2008 19:08:33 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>--72717--</dc:creator>
		<guid>https://www.meneame.net/story/java-finalmente-libre-100-noticia-ingles/c01#c-1</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[<p>[Usuario deshabilitado]</p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>--72717--</strong></p>]]></description>
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