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		<meneame:comment_id>158943</meneame:comment_id>
		<meneame:link_id>39371</meneame:link_id>
		<meneame:order>13</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>kowal</meneame:user>
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		<meneame:karma>6</meneame:karma>
		<meneame:url>https://www.meneame.net/story/gnome-3.0-topaz-threepointzero</meneame:url>
		<title>#13 GNOME 3.0 topaz (threepointzero)</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/gnome-3.0-topaz-threepointzero/c013#c-13</link>
		<pubDate>Sat, 23 Sep 2006 17:34:23 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>kowal</dc:creator>
		<guid>https://www.meneame.net/story/gnome-3.0-topaz-threepointzero/c013#c-13</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[<p>El preview d May-B parece una mezcla de los &#34;bocetos&#34; que vimos hace unos meses de KDE 4 + Windows Vista.. <img data-src="https://cdn.mnmstatic.net/v_149/img/menemojis/36/blank.png" alt=":-|" title=":-| :|" width="18" height="18" src="https://cdn.mnmstatic.net/v_149/img/g.gif" class="emoji lazy" /><br />
<br />
<a href="http://www.kde-look.org/content/show.php?content=28476" title="www.kde-look.org/content/show.php?content=28476" rel="nofollow">www.kde-look.org/content/show.php?content=28476</a><br />
<a href="http://www.kde-look.org/content/show.php?content=42381" title="www.kde-look.org/content/show.php?content=42381" rel="nofollow">www.kde-look.org/content/show.php?content=42381</a></p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>kowal</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<meneame:comment_id>158841</meneame:comment_id>
		<meneame:link_id>39371</meneame:link_id>
		<meneame:order>12</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>kahun</meneame:user>
		<meneame:votes>0</meneame:votes>
		<meneame:karma>6</meneame:karma>
		<meneame:url>https://www.meneame.net/story/gnome-3.0-topaz-threepointzero</meneame:url>
		<title>#12 GNOME 3.0 topaz (threepointzero)</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/gnome-3.0-topaz-threepointzero/c012#c-12</link>
		<pubDate>Sat, 23 Sep 2006 15:34:25 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>kahun</dc:creator>
		<guid>https://www.meneame.net/story/gnome-3.0-topaz-threepointzero/c012#c-12</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[<p><a class="tooltip c:39371-7" href="https://www.meneame.net/story/gnome-3.0-topaz-threepointzero/c07#c-7" rel="nofollow">#7</a> Novell sacó el edirector por ejemplo, te suena el directorio activo de Microsoft, pues eso. Originales son todos, menos Microsoft claro. Cuando uno tiene una idea buena, es lógico que al final se tienda a implementar o adaptar en otros sistemas, pero todos los sistemas han aportado cosas, menos uno y si no ponme algún ejemplo, alguna aportación de Microsoft anda <img data-src="https://cdn.mnmstatic.net/v_149/img/menemojis/36/smiley.png" alt=":-)" title=":-)" width="18" height="18" src="https://cdn.mnmstatic.net/v_149/img/g.gif" class="emoji lazy" /></p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>kahun</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<meneame:comment_id>158609</meneame:comment_id>
		<meneame:link_id>39371</meneame:link_id>
		<meneame:order>11</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>ryouga</meneame:user>
		<meneame:votes>0</meneame:votes>
		<meneame:karma>6</meneame:karma>
		<meneame:url>https://www.meneame.net/story/gnome-3.0-topaz-threepointzero</meneame:url>
		<title>#11 GNOME 3.0 topaz (threepointzero)</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/gnome-3.0-topaz-threepointzero/c011#c-11</link>
		<pubDate>Sat, 23 Sep 2006 11:56:27 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>ryouga</dc:creator>
		<guid>https://www.meneame.net/story/gnome-3.0-topaz-threepointzero/c011#c-11</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[<p>juas yo creo que la funcionalidad es lo primordial, ahora que si es un pelin mejorado a la vista mejor, por eso uso gnome <img data-src="https://cdn.mnmstatic.net/v_149/img/menemojis/36/grin.png" alt=":-D" title=":-D" width="18" height="18" src="https://cdn.mnmstatic.net/v_149/img/g.gif" class="emoji lazy" /></p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>ryouga</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<meneame:comment_id>158546</meneame:comment_id>
		<meneame:link_id>39371</meneame:link_id>
		<meneame:order>10</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>--10803--</meneame:user>
		<meneame:votes>0</meneame:votes>
		<meneame:karma>7</meneame:karma>
		<meneame:url>https://www.meneame.net/story/gnome-3.0-topaz-threepointzero</meneame:url>
		<title>#10 GNOME 3.0 topaz (threepointzero)</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/gnome-3.0-topaz-threepointzero/c010#c-10</link>
		<pubDate>Sat, 23 Sep 2006 11:03:28 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>--10803--</dc:creator>
		<guid>https://www.meneame.net/story/gnome-3.0-topaz-threepointzero/c010#c-10</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[<p><a class="tooltip c:39371-2" href="https://www.meneame.net/story/gnome-3.0-topaz-threepointzero/c02#c-2" rel="nofollow">#2</a> &#34;- interfaz basada en busquedas y etiquetas, uso de otro sistema de ficheros.. &#34;<br />
<br />
Idea que no es en absoluto descabellada. De hecho, si hacemos una analogía, es la misma diferencia entre un lector de correo tradicional, donde los correos estan agrupados en carpetas, y el sistema de gmail, donde los correos tienen asignados etiquetas.<br />
<br />
En un sistema tradicional, yo puedo tener un trabajo archivado bajo por ejemplo ~/universidad/nombre_asignatura/practicas/loquesea.odt.<br />
Si necesito clasificar el documento de alguna otra forma adicional necesitaria poner otra copia (uno ineficiente de espacio, falta de coherencia) o usar enlaces simbólicos (lento y propenso a errores). Buscar un documento en el que hablabamos de algún tema en particular puede ser lento si no recordamos donde estaba archivado exactamente.<br />
<br />
El uso de etiquetas proporciona mucha más libertad. Al mismo documento podria asignarle las etiquetas &#34;universidad&#34;, &#34;asignatura&#34; y &#34;practicas&#34;, y además cualquier otra etiqueta que me permitiera identificarlo con más facilidad. Ello permite tener los contenidos mejor clasificados sin tener una lista de directorios de 20 niveles.<br />
<br />
Creo que el trabajo orientado a documentos en lugar de aplicaciones fue la idea original de las primeras interfaces gráficas, y estaria bien poder llegar a algo así algún dia.</p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>--10803--</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<meneame:comment_id>158447</meneame:comment_id>
		<meneame:link_id>39371</meneame:link_id>
		<meneame:order>9</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>--6828--</meneame:user>
		<meneame:votes>0</meneame:votes>
		<meneame:karma>7</meneame:karma>
		<meneame:url>https://www.meneame.net/story/gnome-3.0-topaz-threepointzero</meneame:url>
		<title>#9 GNOME 3.0 topaz (threepointzero)</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/gnome-3.0-topaz-threepointzero/c09#c-9</link>
		<pubDate>Sat, 23 Sep 2006 09:17:09 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>--6828--</dc:creator>
		<guid>https://www.meneame.net/story/gnome-3.0-topaz-threepointzero/c09#c-9</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://www.gnome-look.org/content/show.php?content=45837" title="www.gnome-look.org/content/show.php?content=45837" rel="nofollow">www.gnome-look.org/content/show.php?content=45837</a><br />
<br />
¿Eso es GNOME 3.0? <img data-src="https://cdn.mnmstatic.net/v_149/img/menemojis/36/wow.png" alt="o_o" title="o_o :wow:" width="18" height="18" src="https://cdn.mnmstatic.net/v_149/img/g.gif" class="emoji lazy" /> ¡Ay caramba!</p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>--6828--</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<meneame:comment_id>158323</meneame:comment_id>
		<meneame:link_id>39371</meneame:link_id>
		<meneame:order>8</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>namikata</meneame:user>
		<meneame:votes>0</meneame:votes>
		<meneame:karma>7</meneame:karma>
		<meneame:url>https://www.meneame.net/story/gnome-3.0-topaz-threepointzero</meneame:url>
		<title>#8 GNOME 3.0 topaz (threepointzero)</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/gnome-3.0-topaz-threepointzero/c08#c-8</link>
		<pubDate>Sat, 23 Sep 2006 02:11:21 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>namikata</dc:creator>
		<guid>https://www.meneame.net/story/gnome-3.0-topaz-threepointzero/c08#c-8</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[<p><a class="tooltip c:39371-7" href="https://www.meneame.net/story/gnome-3.0-topaz-threepointzero/c07#c-7" rel="nofollow">#7</a> que asu vez copio de Xerox...<br />
<br />
venga! sigamos con este juego tan divertido <img data-src="https://cdn.mnmstatic.net/v_149/img/menemojis/36/lol.gif" alt="xD" title=":lol: xD" width="18" height="18" src="https://cdn.mnmstatic.net/v_149/img/g.gif" class="emoji lazy" /><br />
<br />
(si es que hoy tengo mala noche, he comido algo hace poco y me estoy volviendo maloso como los gremlins <img data-src="https://cdn.mnmstatic.net/v_149/img/menemojis/36/lol.gif" alt="xD" title=":lol: xD" width="18" height="18" src="https://cdn.mnmstatic.net/v_149/img/g.gif" class="emoji lazy" />)</p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>namikata</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<meneame:comment_id>158309</meneame:comment_id>
		<meneame:link_id>39371</meneame:link_id>
		<meneame:order>7</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>merolhack</meneame:user>
		<meneame:votes>0</meneame:votes>
		<meneame:karma>6</meneame:karma>
		<meneame:url>https://www.meneame.net/story/gnome-3.0-topaz-threepointzero</meneame:url>
		<title>#7 GNOME 3.0 topaz (threepointzero)</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/gnome-3.0-topaz-threepointzero/c07#c-7</link>
		<pubDate>Sat, 23 Sep 2006 01:30:35 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>merolhack</dc:creator>
		<guid>https://www.meneame.net/story/gnome-3.0-topaz-threepointzero/c07#c-7</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[<p><a class="tooltip c:39371-6" href="https://www.meneame.net/story/gnome-3.0-topaz-threepointzero/c06#c-6" rel="nofollow">#6</a> entonces los que copian son:<br />
Microsoft<br />
Novell<br />
<br />
No? y el unico original es MAC <img data-src="https://cdn.mnmstatic.net/v_149/img/menemojis/36/wink.png" alt=";)" title=";)" width="18" height="18" src="https://cdn.mnmstatic.net/v_149/img/g.gif" class="emoji lazy" /></p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>merolhack</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<meneame:comment_id>158307</meneame:comment_id>
		<meneame:link_id>39371</meneame:link_id>
		<meneame:order>6</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>kahun</meneame:user>
		<meneame:votes>0</meneame:votes>
		<meneame:karma>6</meneame:karma>
		<meneame:url>https://www.meneame.net/story/gnome-3.0-topaz-threepointzero</meneame:url>
		<title>#6 GNOME 3.0 topaz (threepointzero)</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/gnome-3.0-topaz-threepointzero/c06#c-6</link>
		<pubDate>Sat, 23 Sep 2006 01:27:50 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>kahun</dc:creator>
		<guid>https://www.meneame.net/story/gnome-3.0-topaz-threepointzero/c06#c-6</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[<p>Al <a class="tooltip c:39371-5" href="https://www.meneame.net/story/gnome-3.0-topaz-threepointzero/c05#c-5" rel="nofollow">#5</a>, completamente de acuerdo, a ver cuando Microsoft deja de copiar y por una vez en la vida saca algo antes que los demás <img data-src="https://cdn.mnmstatic.net/v_149/img/menemojis/36/wink.png" alt=";)" title=";)" width="18" height="18" src="https://cdn.mnmstatic.net/v_149/img/g.gif" class="emoji lazy" /></p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>kahun</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<meneame:comment_id>158300</meneame:comment_id>
		<meneame:link_id>39371</meneame:link_id>
		<meneame:order>5</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>merolhack</meneame:user>
		<meneame:votes>0</meneame:votes>
		<meneame:karma>6</meneame:karma>
		<meneame:url>https://www.meneame.net/story/gnome-3.0-topaz-threepointzero</meneame:url>
		<title>#5 GNOME 3.0 topaz (threepointzero)</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/gnome-3.0-topaz-threepointzero/c05#c-5</link>
		<pubDate>Sat, 23 Sep 2006 01:10:59 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>merolhack</dc:creator>
		<guid>https://www.meneame.net/story/gnome-3.0-topaz-threepointzero/c05#c-5</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[<p>Algun dia dejaran de copiar las cosas que hacen los demás? <img data-src="https://cdn.mnmstatic.net/v_149/img/menemojis/36/confused.png" alt=":-S" title=":-S :S" width="18" height="18" src="https://cdn.mnmstatic.net/v_149/img/g.gif" class="emoji lazy" /> <br />
<br />
MAC OS X<br />
Windows VISTA<br />
<br />
<img data-src="https://cdn.mnmstatic.net/v_149/img/menemojis/36/smiley.png" alt=":-)" title=":-)" width="18" height="18" src="https://cdn.mnmstatic.net/v_149/img/g.gif" class="emoji lazy" /></p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>merolhack</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<meneame:comment_id>157850</meneame:comment_id>
		<meneame:link_id>39371</meneame:link_id>
		<meneame:order>4</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>alberto</meneame:user>
		<meneame:votes>0</meneame:votes>
		<meneame:karma>13</meneame:karma>
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		<title>#4 GNOME 3.0 topaz (threepointzero)</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/gnome-3.0-topaz-threepointzero/c04#c-4</link>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Sep 2006 16:43:36 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>alberto</dc:creator>
		<guid>https://www.meneame.net/story/gnome-3.0-topaz-threepointzero/c04#c-4</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[<p><a class="tooltip c:39371-3" href="https://www.meneame.net/story/gnome-3.0-topaz-threepointzero/c03#c-3" rel="nofollow">#3</a> Nada, lastima que se tuviera que dejar el proyecto PlazaGnome.net que estaba para comentar estas cosas en principio <img data-src="https://cdn.mnmstatic.net/v_149/img/menemojis/36/tongue.png" alt=":-P" title=":-P" width="18" height="18" src="https://cdn.mnmstatic.net/v_149/img/g.gif" class="emoji lazy" /></p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>alberto</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<meneame:comment_id>157787</meneame:comment_id>
		<meneame:link_id>39371</meneame:link_id>
		<meneame:order>3</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>sebasiciliano</meneame:user>
		<meneame:votes>0</meneame:votes>
		<meneame:karma>17</meneame:karma>
		<meneame:url>https://www.meneame.net/story/gnome-3.0-topaz-threepointzero</meneame:url>
		<title>#3 GNOME 3.0 topaz (threepointzero)</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/gnome-3.0-topaz-threepointzero/c03#c-3</link>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Sep 2006 15:52:45 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>sebasiciliano</dc:creator>
		<guid>https://www.meneame.net/story/gnome-3.0-topaz-threepointzero/c03#c-3</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[<p>Gracias alberto por la información extra</p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>sebasiciliano</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<meneame:comment_id>157778</meneame:comment_id>
		<meneame:link_id>39371</meneame:link_id>
		<meneame:order>2</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>alberto</meneame:user>
		<meneame:votes>0</meneame:votes>
		<meneame:karma>13</meneame:karma>
		<meneame:url>https://www.meneame.net/story/gnome-3.0-topaz-threepointzero</meneame:url>
		<title>#2 GNOME 3.0 topaz (threepointzero)</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/gnome-3.0-topaz-threepointzero/c02#c-2</link>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Sep 2006 15:42:27 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>alberto</dc:creator>
		<guid>https://www.meneame.net/story/gnome-3.0-topaz-threepointzero/c02#c-2</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[<p>Así en resumidas cuentas las ideas centrales son:<br />
- menus orientados a documentos y no a programas. Es decir en vez de buscar Firefox se deberá indicar &#34;quiero ver una página web&#34;<br />
- interfaz basada en busquedas y etiquetas, uso de otro sistema de ficheros..<br />
<br />
Aunque es una especie de &#34;tormenta de ideas&#34;, nada serio, algunas cosas se pueden ir incorporando al proyecto actual de la versión 2 (<a href="http://live.gnome.org/RoadMap/FromThreePointZero" title="live.gnome.org/RoadMap/FromThreePointZero" rel="nofollow">live.gnome.org/RoadMap/FromThreePointZero</a>)<br />
<br />
Algunas capturas de bocetos en:<br />
<a href="http://browserbookapp.sourceforge.net/topaz/" title="browserbookapp.sourceforge.net/topaz/" rel="nofollow">browserbookapp.sourceforge.net/topaz/</a><br />
<br />
La presentación de las ideas en la última GUADEC:<br />
<a href="http://stream.fluendo.com/archive/6uadec/" title="stream.fluendo.com/archive/6uadec/" rel="nofollow">stream.fluendo.com/archive/6uadec/</a></p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>alberto</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<meneame:comment_id>157772</meneame:comment_id>
		<meneame:link_id>39371</meneame:link_id>
		<meneame:order>1</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>dfg</meneame:user>
		<meneame:votes>0</meneame:votes>
		<meneame:karma>7</meneame:karma>
		<meneame:url>https://www.meneame.net/story/gnome-3.0-topaz-threepointzero</meneame:url>
		<title>#1 GNOME 3.0 topaz (threepointzero)</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/gnome-3.0-topaz-threepointzero/c01#c-1</link>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Sep 2006 15:40:17 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>dfg</dc:creator>
		<guid>https://www.meneame.net/story/gnome-3.0-topaz-threepointzero/c01#c-1</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[<p>Es llamativo, pero no estoy seguro de si se puede hacer eso con GTK.<br />
Un buen escritorio no es un escritorio llamativo o muy bonito y transparente, creo que deberían de centrarse en la usabilidad y no dar tanta importancia al look. Ahora se habla tanto de ello por todos los newbies que han conocido linux y sin duda funciona (Vista), pero no es lo que se necesita primordialmente.</p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>dfg</strong></p>]]></description>
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