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		<meneame:comment_id>2028505</meneame:comment_id>
		<meneame:link_id>388920</meneame:link_id>
		<meneame:order>16</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>rmcantin</meneame:user>
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		<meneame:karma>18</meneame:karma>
		<meneame:url>https://www.meneame.net/story/cientificos-tambien-utilizan-photoshop-para-falsear-estudios-ing</meneame:url>
		<title>#16 Los científicos también utilizan Photoshop para falsear sus estudios (ING)</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/cientificos-tambien-utilizan-photoshop-para-falsear-estudios-ing/c016#c-16</link>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 May 2008 10:01:44 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>rmcantin</dc:creator>
		<guid>https://www.meneame.net/story/cientificos-tambien-utilizan-photoshop-para-falsear-estudios-ing/c016#c-16</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[<p>A ver si tenemos cuidadito al escribir los titulares y las entradillas. La noticia pone que se ha encontrado <strong>algún</strong> caso de imagen retocada, nada más.<br />
<br />
Luego frases como<br />
<br />
&#34;Los científicos también utilizan Photoshop para falsear...&#34;<br />
&#34;Los investigadores <strong>suelen</strong> utilizar Photoshop...&#34;<br />
<br />
distorsionan totalmente la noticia. Y eso creo que va en contra de las normas de meneame.</p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>rmcantin</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<meneame:comment_id>2028015</meneame:comment_id>
		<meneame:link_id>388920</meneame:link_id>
		<meneame:order>15</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>Libertual</meneame:user>
		<meneame:votes>2</meneame:votes>
		<meneame:karma>22</meneame:karma>
		<meneame:url>https://www.meneame.net/story/cientificos-tambien-utilizan-photoshop-para-falsear-estudios-ing</meneame:url>
		<title>#15 Los científicos también utilizan Photoshop para falsear sus estudios (ING)</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/cientificos-tambien-utilizan-photoshop-para-falsear-estudios-ing/c015#c-15</link>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 May 2008 08:35:59 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Libertual</dc:creator>
		<guid>https://www.meneame.net/story/cientificos-tambien-utilizan-photoshop-para-falsear-estudios-ing/c015#c-15</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[<p>Que curioso las criticas que sufren las religiones por no ajustarse a la realidad las sufren algunos científicos por mentirosos.</p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>Libertual</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<meneame:comment_id>2027768</meneame:comment_id>
		<meneame:link_id>388920</meneame:link_id>
		<meneame:order>14</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>lynxai</meneame:user>
		<meneame:votes>1</meneame:votes>
		<meneame:karma>13</meneame:karma>
		<meneame:url>https://www.meneame.net/story/cientificos-tambien-utilizan-photoshop-para-falsear-estudios-ing</meneame:url>
		<title>#14 Los científicos también utilizan Photoshop para falsear sus estudios (ING)</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/cientificos-tambien-utilizan-photoshop-para-falsear-estudios-ing/c014#c-14</link>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 May 2008 07:46:45 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>lynxai</dc:creator>
		<guid>https://www.meneame.net/story/cientificos-tambien-utilizan-photoshop-para-falsear-estudios-ing/c014#c-14</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[<p>Uy, yo le retoqué a mi novia una fotaca como esa hace unas semanas para un póster que tenía que llevar a un congreso en Alicante.<br />
Ahora entiendo la cara de complicidad que ponía cuando le preguntaba si eso estaba bien.</p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>lynxai</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<meneame:comment_id>2027712</meneame:comment_id>
		<meneame:link_id>388920</meneame:link_id>
		<meneame:order>13</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>biritx</meneame:user>
		<meneame:votes>1</meneame:votes>
		<meneame:karma>13</meneame:karma>
		<meneame:url>https://www.meneame.net/story/cientificos-tambien-utilizan-photoshop-para-falsear-estudios-ing</meneame:url>
		<title>#13 Los científicos también utilizan Photoshop para falsear sus estudios (ING)</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/cientificos-tambien-utilizan-photoshop-para-falsear-estudios-ing/c013#c-13</link>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 May 2008 07:33:43 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>biritx</dc:creator>
		<guid>https://www.meneame.net/story/cientificos-tambien-utilizan-photoshop-para-falsear-estudios-ing/c013#c-13</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[<p>JOder, cuando le diga a mi madre que estoy con el photoshop para complementar los estudios de bioquímica se va a llevar una alegría... (sobretodo cuando me pida que le quite las arrugas en las fotos)</p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>biritx</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<meneame:comment_id>2027666</meneame:comment_id>
		<meneame:link_id>388920</meneame:link_id>
		<meneame:order>12</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>phillipe</meneame:user>
		<meneame:votes>1</meneame:votes>
		<meneame:karma>15</meneame:karma>
		<meneame:url>https://www.meneame.net/story/cientificos-tambien-utilizan-photoshop-para-falsear-estudios-ing</meneame:url>
		<title>#12 Los científicos también utilizan Photoshop para falsear sus estudios (ING)</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/cientificos-tambien-utilizan-photoshop-para-falsear-estudios-ing/c012#c-12</link>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 May 2008 07:25:42 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>phillipe</dc:creator>
		<guid>https://www.meneame.net/story/cientificos-tambien-utilizan-photoshop-para-falsear-estudios-ing/c012#c-12</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[<p>Puff... ¿Por qué nadie habla del excel?</p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>phillipe</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<meneame:comment_id>2027511</meneame:comment_id>
		<meneame:link_id>388920</meneame:link_id>
		<meneame:order>11</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>bertitus</meneame:user>
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		<meneame:karma>15</meneame:karma>
		<meneame:url>https://www.meneame.net/story/cientificos-tambien-utilizan-photoshop-para-falsear-estudios-ing</meneame:url>
		<title>#11 Los científicos también utilizan Photoshop para falsear sus estudios (ING)</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/cientificos-tambien-utilizan-photoshop-para-falsear-estudios-ing/c011#c-11</link>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 May 2008 06:41:47 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>bertitus</dc:creator>
		<guid>https://www.meneame.net/story/cientificos-tambien-utilizan-photoshop-para-falsear-estudios-ing/c011#c-11</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[<p>En los grupos de investigación se falsean resultados todos los días, porque dependen de ellos para la siguiente inyección de pasta, o para que los publiquen en una revista de un factor de impacto elevado.</p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>bertitus</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<meneame:comment_id>2027432</meneame:comment_id>
		<meneame:link_id>388920</meneame:link_id>
		<meneame:order>10</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>pikutara</meneame:user>
		<meneame:votes>1</meneame:votes>
		<meneame:karma>15</meneame:karma>
		<meneame:url>https://www.meneame.net/story/cientificos-tambien-utilizan-photoshop-para-falsear-estudios-ing</meneame:url>
		<title>#10 Los científicos también utilizan Photoshop para falsear sus estudios (ING)</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/cientificos-tambien-utilizan-photoshop-para-falsear-estudios-ing/c010#c-10</link>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 May 2008 05:38:37 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>pikutara</dc:creator>
		<guid>https://www.meneame.net/story/cientificos-tambien-utilizan-photoshop-para-falsear-estudios-ing/c010#c-10</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[<p><a class="tooltip c:388920-9" href="https://www.meneame.net/story/cientificos-tambien-utilizan-photoshop-para-falsear-estudios-ing/c09#c-9" rel="nofollow">#9</a> En todo caso un Western blot, ya que parece proteína, pero de todos modos, tanto el Western, como el Northern o el Southern se inician con una electroforesis así que <a class="tooltip c:388920-6" href="https://www.meneame.net/story/cientificos-tambien-utilizan-photoshop-para-falsear-estudios-ing/c06#c-6" rel="nofollow">#6</a> está en lo cierto sin duda.</p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>pikutara</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<meneame:comment_id>2027103</meneame:comment_id>
		<meneame:link_id>388920</meneame:link_id>
		<meneame:order>9</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>natrix</meneame:user>
		<meneame:votes>1</meneame:votes>
		<meneame:karma>19</meneame:karma>
		<meneame:url>https://www.meneame.net/story/cientificos-tambien-utilizan-photoshop-para-falsear-estudios-ing</meneame:url>
		<title>#9 Los científicos también utilizan Photoshop para falsear sus estudios (ING)</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/cientificos-tambien-utilizan-photoshop-para-falsear-estudios-ing/c09#c-9</link>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 May 2008 23:34:01 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>natrix</dc:creator>
		<guid>https://www.meneame.net/story/cientificos-tambien-utilizan-photoshop-para-falsear-estudios-ing/c09#c-9</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[<p><a class="tooltip c:388920-6" href="https://www.meneame.net/story/cientificos-tambien-utilizan-photoshop-para-falsear-estudios-ing/c06#c-6" rel="nofollow">#6</a> Eso no es una electroforesis, tiene toda la pinta de un Northern. <img data-src="https://cdn.mnmstatic.net/v_149/img/menemojis/36/wink.png" alt=";)" title=";)" width="18" height="18" src="https://cdn.mnmstatic.net/v_149/img/g.gif" class="emoji lazy" /><br />
<br />
Lo cierto es que no hace falta photoshop para falsear un experimento y para que te dé lo que quieres que dé.<br />
<br />
Y también es cierto que ya casi todas las revistas utilizan programas de detección de manipulación en las imágenes.</p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>natrix</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<meneame:comment_id>2027016</meneame:comment_id>
		<meneame:link_id>388920</meneame:link_id>
		<meneame:order>8</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>jm22381</meneame:user>
		<meneame:votes>0</meneame:votes>
		<meneame:karma>19</meneame:karma>
		<meneame:url>https://www.meneame.net/story/cientificos-tambien-utilizan-photoshop-para-falsear-estudios-ing</meneame:url>
		<title>#8 Los científicos también utilizan Photoshop para falsear sus estudios (ING)</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/cientificos-tambien-utilizan-photoshop-para-falsear-estudios-ing/c08#c-8</link>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 May 2008 23:06:11 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>jm22381</dc:creator>
		<guid>https://www.meneame.net/story/cientificos-tambien-utilizan-photoshop-para-falsear-estudios-ing/c08#c-8</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[<p><a class="tooltip c:388920-2" href="https://www.meneame.net/story/cientificos-tambien-utilizan-photoshop-para-falsear-estudios-ing/c02#c-2" rel="nofollow">#2</a> ¿Y si sacan una foto analógica de una foto digital manipulada? <img data-src="https://cdn.mnmstatic.net/v_149/img/menemojis/36/roll.gif" alt=":roll:" title=":roll:" width="18" height="18" src="https://cdn.mnmstatic.net/v_149/img/g.gif" class="emoji lazy" /><br />
P.D.: Tengo unas células que quiero que parezcan clonadas ¿alguien sabe de Photoshop? <img data-src="https://cdn.mnmstatic.net/v_149/img/menemojis/36/tongue.png" alt=":-P" title=":-P" width="18" height="18" src="https://cdn.mnmstatic.net/v_149/img/g.gif" class="emoji lazy" /></p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>jm22381</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<meneame:comment_id>2026792</meneame:comment_id>
		<meneame:link_id>388920</meneame:link_id>
		<meneame:order>7</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>Boudleaux</meneame:user>
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		<meneame:url>https://www.meneame.net/story/cientificos-tambien-utilizan-photoshop-para-falsear-estudios-ing</meneame:url>
		<title>#7 Los científicos también utilizan Photoshop para falsear sus estudios (ING)</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/cientificos-tambien-utilizan-photoshop-para-falsear-estudios-ing/c07#c-7</link>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 May 2008 22:16:37 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Boudleaux</dc:creator>
		<guid>https://www.meneame.net/story/cientificos-tambien-utilizan-photoshop-para-falsear-estudios-ing/c07#c-7</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[<p>se amplía el abanico de posibilidades a la hora de mandar el curriculum para currar de diseñata <img data-src="https://cdn.mnmstatic.net/v_149/img/menemojis/36/lol.gif" alt="xD" title=":lol: xD" width="18" height="18" src="https://cdn.mnmstatic.net/v_149/img/g.gif" class="emoji lazy" /></p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>Boudleaux</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<meneame:comment_id>2026449</meneame:comment_id>
		<meneame:link_id>388920</meneame:link_id>
		<meneame:order>6</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>muon</meneame:user>
		<meneame:votes>3</meneame:votes>
		<meneame:karma>30</meneame:karma>
		<meneame:url>https://www.meneame.net/story/cientificos-tambien-utilizan-photoshop-para-falsear-estudios-ing</meneame:url>
		<title>#6 Los científicos también utilizan Photoshop para falsear sus estudios (ING)</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/cientificos-tambien-utilizan-photoshop-para-falsear-estudios-ing/c06#c-6</link>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 May 2008 21:09:05 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>muon</dc:creator>
		<guid>https://www.meneame.net/story/cientificos-tambien-utilizan-photoshop-para-falsear-estudios-ing/c06#c-6</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[<p>Una electroforesis tenía que ser, lo que más se presta a &#34;retoques&#34; (esa banda está ahí jodiendo el experimento)</p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>muon</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<meneame:comment_id>2026440</meneame:comment_id>
		<meneame:link_id>388920</meneame:link_id>
		<meneame:order>5</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>Don_Gato</meneame:user>
		<meneame:votes>6</meneame:votes>
		<meneame:karma>14</meneame:karma>
		<meneame:url>https://www.meneame.net/story/cientificos-tambien-utilizan-photoshop-para-falsear-estudios-ing</meneame:url>
		<title>#5 Los científicos también utilizan Photoshop para falsear sus estudios (ING)</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/cientificos-tambien-utilizan-photoshop-para-falsear-estudios-ing/c05#c-5</link>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 May 2008 21:07:00 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Don_Gato</dc:creator>
		<guid>https://www.meneame.net/story/cientificos-tambien-utilizan-photoshop-para-falsear-estudios-ing/c05#c-5</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[<p>Hoygan yo usé el Paint una vez para falsear la firma de mi padre en las notas del cole pero me pillaron, ¿cuento como cientifico?</p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>Don_Gato</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<meneame:comment_id>2026435</meneame:comment_id>
		<meneame:link_id>388920</meneame:link_id>
		<meneame:order>4</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>manelizzard</meneame:user>
		<meneame:votes>1</meneame:votes>
		<meneame:karma>12</meneame:karma>
		<meneame:url>https://www.meneame.net/story/cientificos-tambien-utilizan-photoshop-para-falsear-estudios-ing</meneame:url>
		<title>#4 Los científicos también utilizan Photoshop para falsear sus estudios (ING)</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/cientificos-tambien-utilizan-photoshop-para-falsear-estudios-ing/c04#c-4</link>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 May 2008 21:06:30 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>manelizzard</dc:creator>
		<guid>https://www.meneame.net/story/cientificos-tambien-utilizan-photoshop-para-falsear-estudios-ing/c04#c-4</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[<p>Eso lo hacía yo en las prácticas de laboratorio de secundaria...</p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>manelizzard</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<meneame:comment_id>2026398</meneame:comment_id>
		<meneame:link_id>388920</meneame:link_id>
		<meneame:order>3</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>--56137--</meneame:user>
		<meneame:votes>1</meneame:votes>
		<meneame:karma>14</meneame:karma>
		<meneame:url>https://www.meneame.net/story/cientificos-tambien-utilizan-photoshop-para-falsear-estudios-ing</meneame:url>
		<title>#3 Los científicos también utilizan Photoshop para falsear sus estudios (ING)</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/cientificos-tambien-utilizan-photoshop-para-falsear-estudios-ing/c03#c-3</link>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 May 2008 20:59:48 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>--56137--</dc:creator>
		<guid>https://www.meneame.net/story/cientificos-tambien-utilizan-photoshop-para-falsear-estudios-ing/c03#c-3</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[<p>En cambio con GNU-plot...</p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>--56137--</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<meneame:comment_id>2026369</meneame:comment_id>
		<meneame:link_id>388920</meneame:link_id>
		<meneame:order>2</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>--525--</meneame:user>
		<meneame:votes>1</meneame:votes>
		<meneame:karma>15</meneame:karma>
		<meneame:url>https://www.meneame.net/story/cientificos-tambien-utilizan-photoshop-para-falsear-estudios-ing</meneame:url>
		<title>#2 Los científicos también utilizan Photoshop para falsear sus estudios (ING)</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/cientificos-tambien-utilizan-photoshop-para-falsear-estudios-ing/c02#c-2</link>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 May 2008 20:54:16 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>--525--</dc:creator>
		<guid>https://www.meneame.net/story/cientificos-tambien-utilizan-photoshop-para-falsear-estudios-ing/c02#c-2</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[<p>Y por eso, muchas revistas científicas sólo admiten fotos analógicas y si no, no te publican.</p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>--525--</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<meneame:user>--761--</meneame:user>
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		<meneame:karma>19</meneame:karma>
		<meneame:url>https://www.meneame.net/story/cientificos-tambien-utilizan-photoshop-para-falsear-estudios-ing</meneame:url>
		<title>#1 Los científicos también utilizan Photoshop para falsear sus estudios (ING)</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/cientificos-tambien-utilizan-photoshop-para-falsear-estudios-ing/c01#c-1</link>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 May 2008 20:29:37 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>--761--</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[<p>Inclusión ya! -&#62; <a href="http://photoshopdisasters.blogspot.com/" title="photoshopdisasters.blogspot.com/" rel="nofollow">photoshopdisasters.blogspot.com/</a></p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>--761--</strong></p>]]></description>
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