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		<meneame:comment_id>39018355</meneame:comment_id>
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		<meneame:order>15</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>Trigonometrico</meneame:user>
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		<meneame:karma>10</meneame:karma>
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		<title>#15 Haced la paz, insensatos! [ENG]</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/haced-paz-insensatos-eng/c015#c-15</link>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Aug 2023 04:31:19 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Trigonometrico</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[<p><a class="tooltip c:3843456-13" href="https://www.meneame.net/story/haced-paz-insensatos-eng/c013#c-13" rel="nofollow">#13</a> Pero tal vez combatan con otros países.</p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>Trigonometrico</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<meneame:comment_id>39014360</meneame:comment_id>
		<meneame:link_id>3843456</meneame:link_id>
		<meneame:order>14</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>Ripio</meneame:user>
		<meneame:votes>0</meneame:votes>
		<meneame:karma>20</meneame:karma>
		<meneame:url>https://www.meneame.net/story/haced-paz-insensatos-eng</meneame:url>
		<title>#14 Haced la paz, insensatos! [ENG]</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/haced-paz-insensatos-eng/c014#c-14</link>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Aug 2023 11:36:13 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Ripio</dc:creator>
		<guid>https://www.meneame.net/story/haced-paz-insensatos-eng/c014#c-14</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[<p><a class="tooltip c:3843456-13" href="https://www.meneame.net/story/haced-paz-insensatos-eng/c013#c-13" rel="nofollow">#13</a> Nadie quiere &#34;la última guerra&#34;.</p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>Ripio</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<meneame:comment_id>39014348</meneame:comment_id>
		<meneame:link_id>3843456</meneame:link_id>
		<meneame:order>13</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>Perrota</meneame:user>
		<meneame:votes>1</meneame:votes>
		<meneame:karma>21</meneame:karma>
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		<title>#13 Haced la paz, insensatos! [ENG]</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/haced-paz-insensatos-eng/c013#c-13</link>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Aug 2023 11:34:53 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Perrota</dc:creator>
		<guid>https://www.meneame.net/story/haced-paz-insensatos-eng/c013#c-13</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[<p><a class="tooltip c:3843456-9" href="https://www.meneame.net/story/haced-paz-insensatos-eng/c09#c-9" rel="nofollow">#9</a> Es que Rusia y Estados Unidos nunca van a pelear, y menos con infantería. Si lo hacen, será la última guerra y quedarán cenizas. Da igual que tengas miles de millones de soldados experimentandos.</p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>Perrota</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<meneame:comment_id>39014288</meneame:comment_id>
		<meneame:link_id>3843456</meneame:link_id>
		<meneame:order>12</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>NoPracticante</meneame:user>
		<meneame:votes>1</meneame:votes>
		<meneame:karma>27</meneame:karma>
		<meneame:url>https://www.meneame.net/story/haced-paz-insensatos-eng</meneame:url>
		<title>#12 Haced la paz, insensatos! [ENG]</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/haced-paz-insensatos-eng/c012#c-12</link>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Aug 2023 11:27:03 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>NoPracticante</dc:creator>
		<guid>https://www.meneame.net/story/haced-paz-insensatos-eng/c012#c-12</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[<p><a class="tooltip c:3843456-1" href="https://www.meneame.net/story/haced-paz-insensatos-eng/c01#c-1" rel="nofollow">#1</a> esta guerra no la diseñaron los dueños de la OTAN para ganarla. La desencadenaron para que dure lo máximo posible. El futuro de Ucrania nunca les importó y mucho menos el de los ucranianos.</p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>NoPracticante</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<meneame:comment_id>39014123</meneame:comment_id>
		<meneame:link_id>3843456</meneame:link_id>
		<meneame:order>11</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>Malinke</meneame:user>
		<meneame:votes>1</meneame:votes>
		<meneame:karma>20</meneame:karma>
		<meneame:url>https://www.meneame.net/story/haced-paz-insensatos-eng</meneame:url>
		<title>#11 Haced la paz, insensatos! [ENG]</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/haced-paz-insensatos-eng/c011#c-11</link>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Aug 2023 11:04:29 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Malinke</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[<p><a class="tooltip c:3843456-10" href="https://www.meneame.net/story/haced-paz-insensatos-eng/c010#c-10" rel="nofollow">#10</a> <a class="tooltip c:3843456-6" href="https://www.meneame.net/story/haced-paz-insensatos-eng/c06#c-6" rel="nofollow">#6</a> gracias, ni me había dado cuenta. Si ignora a tanta gente tampoco es que merezca la pena.</p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>Malinke</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<meneame:comment_id>39013949</meneame:comment_id>
		<meneame:link_id>3843456</meneame:link_id>
		<meneame:order>10</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>JohnnyQuest</meneame:user>
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		<title>#10 Haced la paz, insensatos! [ENG]</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/haced-paz-insensatos-eng/c010#c-10</link>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Aug 2023 10:41:41 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>JohnnyQuest</dc:creator>
		<guid>https://www.meneame.net/story/haced-paz-insensatos-eng/c010#c-10</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[<p>Voy a hacer la prueba a ver si también me tiene ignorado como a vosotros <a class="tooltip c:3843456-3" href="https://www.meneame.net/story/haced-paz-insensatos-eng/c03#c-3" rel="nofollow">#3</a> <a class="tooltip c:3843456-4" href="https://www.meneame.net/story/haced-paz-insensatos-eng/c04#c-4" rel="nofollow">#4</a> <a class="tooltip c:3843456-5" href="https://www.meneame.net/story/haced-paz-insensatos-eng/c05#c-5" rel="nofollow">#5</a> <a class="tooltip c:3843456-6" href="https://www.meneame.net/story/haced-paz-insensatos-eng/c06#c-6" rel="nofollow">#6</a> <a class="tooltip c:3843456-7" href="https://www.meneame.net/story/haced-paz-insensatos-eng/c07#c-7" rel="nofollow">#7</a> <a class="tooltip c:3843456-8" href="https://www.meneame.net/story/haced-paz-insensatos-eng/c08#c-8" rel="nofollow">#8</a><br />
<br />
Edit: Bingo!!!</p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>JohnnyQuest</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<meneame:comment_id>39013785</meneame:comment_id>
		<meneame:link_id>3843456</meneame:link_id>
		<meneame:order>9</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>Ripio</meneame:user>
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		<title>#9 Haced la paz, insensatos! [ENG]</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/haced-paz-insensatos-eng/c09#c-9</link>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Aug 2023 10:17:55 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Ripio</dc:creator>
		<guid>https://www.meneame.net/story/haced-paz-insensatos-eng/c09#c-9</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[<p><a class="tooltip c:3843456-1" href="https://www.meneame.net/story/haced-paz-insensatos-eng/c01#c-1" rel="nofollow">#1</a> Cuando acabe esta guerra, Rusia va a estar sin duda algo desgastada, pero va a tener decenas de miles de soldados curtidos en los peores combates librados en décadas.<br />
Estados unidos tiene un ejército de paletos de escaso nivel cultural que solo combaten si tienen una abrumadora superioridad aérea, de blindados y de todo.<br />
<br />
BONUS:<br />
<i> Ucrania consume 8000 proyectiles de 155 mm al día. EEUU, el país que más produce en ese calibre OTAN, fabrica 775 proyectiles al día ahora. Antes hacía 452. Para 2025 podrá haber elevado la producción a 3000 al día.</i><br />
<br />
(Aqui va un enlace de FT que no el sistema no me deja poner. El titular es &#34;US faces hurdles in ramping up munitions supplies for Ukraine war effort&#34;).<br />
<br />
En cuanto a los países Europeos, tienen munición artillera para 4 días. Ni uno más.<br />
Hay fuentes alemanas y británicas que así lo aseguran.<br />
Sin embargo, Rusia ha multiplicado la producción de todo.<br />
Por ejemplo, la de drones x52<br />
<br />
Supongo que leíste a Borrell hablando de la necesidad de una economía de guerra.<br />
Así que ¿quién va a salir mas trasquilado??</p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>Ripio</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<meneame:comment_id>39013769</meneame:comment_id>
		<meneame:link_id>3843456</meneame:link_id>
		<meneame:order>8</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>--147613--</meneame:user>
		<meneame:votes>1</meneame:votes>
		<meneame:karma>16</meneame:karma>
		<meneame:url>https://www.meneame.net/story/haced-paz-insensatos-eng</meneame:url>
		<title>#8 Haced la paz, insensatos! [ENG]</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/haced-paz-insensatos-eng/c08#c-8</link>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Aug 2023 10:16:07 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>--147613--</dc:creator>
		<guid>https://www.meneame.net/story/haced-paz-insensatos-eng/c08#c-8</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[<p>En EEUU no hay ni izquierda, ya no te digo &#34;extrema izquierda&#34;.<br />
<br />
En EEUU solo hay derecha y extrema derecha.</p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>--147613--</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<meneame:comment_id>39013764</meneame:comment_id>
		<meneame:link_id>3843456</meneame:link_id>
		<meneame:order>7</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>ur_quan_master</meneame:user>
		<meneame:votes>3</meneame:votes>
		<meneame:karma>42</meneame:karma>
		<meneame:url>https://www.meneame.net/story/haced-paz-insensatos-eng</meneame:url>
		<title>#7 Haced la paz, insensatos! [ENG]</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/haced-paz-insensatos-eng/c07#c-7</link>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Aug 2023 10:15:28 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>ur_quan_master</dc:creator>
		<guid>https://www.meneame.net/story/haced-paz-insensatos-eng/c07#c-7</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[<p><a class="tooltip c:3843456-6" href="https://www.meneame.net/story/haced-paz-insensatos-eng/c06#c-6" rel="nofollow">#6</a> sufre IIA: Intolerancia a las Ideas Ajenas.</p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>ur_quan_master</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<meneame:comment_id>39013729</meneame:comment_id>
		<meneame:link_id>3843456</meneame:link_id>
		<meneame:order>6</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>manbobi</meneame:user>
		<meneame:votes>0</meneame:votes>
		<meneame:karma>14</meneame:karma>
		<meneame:url>https://www.meneame.net/story/haced-paz-insensatos-eng</meneame:url>
		<title>#6 Haced la paz, insensatos! [ENG]</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/haced-paz-insensatos-eng/c06#c-6</link>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Aug 2023 10:12:20 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>manbobi</dc:creator>
		<guid>https://www.meneame.net/story/haced-paz-insensatos-eng/c06#c-6</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[<p><a class="tooltip c:3843456-4" href="https://www.meneame.net/story/haced-paz-insensatos-eng/c04#c-4" rel="nofollow">#4</a>  <a class="tooltip c:3843456-5" href="https://www.meneame.net/story/haced-paz-insensatos-eng/c05#c-5" rel="nofollow">#5</a> Hay alguien a quien no tenga ignorado?</p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>manbobi</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<meneame:comment_id>39013714</meneame:comment_id>
		<meneame:link_id>3843456</meneame:link_id>
		<meneame:order>5</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>Malinke</meneame:user>
		<meneame:votes>0</meneame:votes>
		<meneame:karma>8</meneame:karma>
		<meneame:url>https://www.meneame.net/story/haced-paz-insensatos-eng</meneame:url>
		<title>#5 Haced la paz, insensatos! [ENG]</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/haced-paz-insensatos-eng/c05#c-5</link>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Aug 2023 10:11:00 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Malinke</dc:creator>
		<guid>https://www.meneame.net/story/haced-paz-insensatos-eng/c05#c-5</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[<p>viniendo de EEUU, no es izquierda, menos todavía extrema izquierda.</p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>Malinke</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<meneame:comment_id>39013685</meneame:comment_id>
		<meneame:link_id>3843456</meneame:link_id>
		<meneame:order>4</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>ur_quan_master</meneame:user>
		<meneame:votes>2</meneame:votes>
		<meneame:karma>35</meneame:karma>
		<meneame:url>https://www.meneame.net/story/haced-paz-insensatos-eng</meneame:url>
		<title>#4 Haced la paz, insensatos! [ENG]</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/haced-paz-insensatos-eng/c04#c-4</link>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Aug 2023 10:06:21 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>ur_quan_master</dc:creator>
		<guid>https://www.meneame.net/story/haced-paz-insensatos-eng/c04#c-4</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[<p><a href="/search?w=comments&#38;q=%23_2&#38;o=date">#_2</a> la URSS desapareció hace tiempo. Si hay alguien de izquierdas defendiendo a Putin es que está muy  despistado.<br />
<br />
Otra cosa es denunciar las mentiras de nuestros propios gobiernos y medios de información con las que tratan de hacernos tragar está guerra.  Eso lo veo bastante legítimo y no tiene por qué tener un componente politico.</p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>ur_quan_master</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<meneame:comment_id>39013672</meneame:comment_id>
		<meneame:link_id>3843456</meneame:link_id>
		<meneame:order>3</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>manbobi</meneame:user>
		<meneame:votes>1</meneame:votes>
		<meneame:karma>21</meneame:karma>
		<meneame:url>https://www.meneame.net/story/haced-paz-insensatos-eng</meneame:url>
		<title>#3 Haced la paz, insensatos! [ENG]</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/haced-paz-insensatos-eng/c03#c-3</link>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Aug 2023 10:04:49 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>manbobi</dc:creator>
		<guid>https://www.meneame.net/story/haced-paz-insensatos-eng/c03#c-3</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[<p><a href="/search?w=comments&#38;q=%23_2&#38;o=date">#_2</a>  Extrema izquierda pro URSS... Qué medios son pro unión sovietica? Los hay zaristas tambien?</p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>manbobi</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<meneame:comment_id>39013566</meneame:comment_id>
		<meneame:link_id>3843456</meneame:link_id>
		<meneame:order>2</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>fugaz</meneame:user>
		<meneame:votes>7</meneame:votes>
		<meneame:karma>-6</meneame:karma>
		<meneame:url>https://www.meneame.net/story/haced-paz-insensatos-eng</meneame:url>
		<title>#2 Haced la paz, insensatos! [ENG]</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/haced-paz-insensatos-eng/c02#c-2</link>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Aug 2023 09:52:14 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>fugaz</dc:creator>
		<guid>https://www.meneame.net/story/haced-paz-insensatos-eng/c02#c-2</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[<p>Esta clase de artículos a priori nunca se sabe si los escribe la extrema izquierda pro-urss o la extrema derecha trumpista.<br />
<br />
Vamos a ver que tocó... the American Conservative. Tocó trumpista.</p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>fugaz</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<meneame:comment_id>39013551</meneame:comment_id>
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		<meneame:order>1</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>makinavaja</meneame:user>
		<meneame:votes>4</meneame:votes>
		<meneame:karma>42</meneame:karma>
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		<title>#1 Haced la paz, insensatos! [ENG]</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/haced-paz-insensatos-eng/c01#c-1</link>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Aug 2023 09:50:39 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>makinavaja</dc:creator>
		<guid>https://www.meneame.net/story/haced-paz-insensatos-eng/c01#c-1</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[<p>Washington no sigue creyendo que Ucrania puede ganar, simplemente le interesa que resista lo máximo posible para caudar todo el daño posible a Rusia, que es de lo que se trata...</p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>makinavaja</strong></p>]]></description>
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