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		<meneame:comment_id>38919481</meneame:comment_id>
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		<meneame:order>12</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>--147613--</meneame:user>
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		<meneame:karma>8</meneame:karma>
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		<title>#12 Discurso de verano de Orbán: adiós a Europa</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/discurso-verano-orban-adios-europa/c012#c-12</link>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Jul 2023 09:52:04 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>--147613--</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[<p><a class="tooltip c:3838681-11" href="https://www.meneame.net/story/discurso-verano-orban-adios-europa/c011#c-11" rel="nofollow">#11</a> Estas defendiendo la pérdida de poder del pueblo ante hechos que se hacen a propósito para hacer perder el poder al pueblo.</p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>--147613--</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<meneame:comment_id>38918761</meneame:comment_id>
		<meneame:link_id>3838681</meneame:link_id>
		<meneame:order>11</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>carlesm</meneame:user>
		<meneame:votes>0</meneame:votes>
		<meneame:karma>9</meneame:karma>
		<meneame:url>https://www.meneame.net/story/discurso-verano-orban-adios-europa</meneame:url>
		<title>#11 Discurso de verano de Orbán: adiós a Europa</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/discurso-verano-orban-adios-europa/c011#c-11</link>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Jul 2023 08:41:34 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>carlesm</dc:creator>
		<guid>https://www.meneame.net/story/discurso-verano-orban-adios-europa/c011#c-11</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[<p><a class="tooltip c:3838681-10" href="https://www.meneame.net/story/discurso-verano-orban-adios-europa/c010#c-10" rel="nofollow">#10</a> Los vota el Parlamento, que votan los europeos. Igual que no votas al consejo de ministros, ni quien es el Director General de Universidades.</p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>carlesm</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<meneame:comment_id>38917435</meneame:comment_id>
		<meneame:link_id>3838681</meneame:link_id>
		<meneame:order>10</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>--147613--</meneame:user>
		<meneame:votes>0</meneame:votes>
		<meneame:karma>8</meneame:karma>
		<meneame:url>https://www.meneame.net/story/discurso-verano-orban-adios-europa</meneame:url>
		<title>#10 Discurso de verano de Orbán: adiós a Europa</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/discurso-verano-orban-adios-europa/c010#c-10</link>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Jul 2023 05:33:41 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>--147613--</dc:creator>
		<guid>https://www.meneame.net/story/discurso-verano-orban-adios-europa/c010#c-10</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[<p><a class="tooltip c:3838681-9" href="https://www.meneame.net/story/discurso-verano-orban-adios-europa/c09#c-9" rel="nofollow">#9</a> Que yo sepa nadie puede votar a la comisión europea ni otros órganos afines.<br />
<br />
Dedazo</p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>--147613--</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<meneame:comment_id>38917296</meneame:comment_id>
		<meneame:link_id>3838681</meneame:link_id>
		<meneame:order>9</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>carlesm</meneame:user>
		<meneame:votes>2</meneame:votes>
		<meneame:karma>34</meneame:karma>
		<meneame:url>https://www.meneame.net/story/discurso-verano-orban-adios-europa</meneame:url>
		<title>#9 Discurso de verano de Orbán: adiós a Europa</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/discurso-verano-orban-adios-europa/c09#c-9</link>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Jul 2023 04:12:33 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>carlesm</dc:creator>
		<guid>https://www.meneame.net/story/discurso-verano-orban-adios-europa/c09#c-9</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[<p><a class="tooltip c:3838681-7" href="https://www.meneame.net/story/discurso-verano-orban-adios-europa/c07#c-7" rel="nofollow">#7</a> Creo recordar que se vota el Parlamento Europeo.... <br />
<br />
En la Unión hay varios órganos (muchos) como en toda estructura gubernamental, algunos de elección directa (Parlamento Europeo), otros que derivan de los de elección directa. Otros, como el Consejo de Ministros de la UE, se votan indirectamente: votas a tu gobierno nacional (directamente o vía parlamento), y el Ministro de X va al consejo de la UE, y así.</p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>carlesm</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<meneame:comment_id>38916696</meneame:comment_id>
		<meneame:link_id>3838681</meneame:link_id>
		<meneame:order>8</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>username</meneame:user>
		<meneame:votes>0</meneame:votes>
		<meneame:karma>10</meneame:karma>
		<meneame:url>https://www.meneame.net/story/discurso-verano-orban-adios-europa</meneame:url>
		<title>#8 Discurso de verano de Orbán: adiós a Europa</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/discurso-verano-orban-adios-europa/c08#c-8</link>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Jul 2023 21:48:44 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>username</dc:creator>
		<guid>https://www.meneame.net/story/discurso-verano-orban-adios-europa/c08#c-8</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[<p><a class="tooltip c:3838681-5" href="https://www.meneame.net/story/discurso-verano-orban-adios-europa/c05#c-5" rel="nofollow">#5</a> ya están dejando de percibir fondos</p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>username</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<meneame:comment_id>38916563</meneame:comment_id>
		<meneame:link_id>3838681</meneame:link_id>
		<meneame:order>7</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>--147613--</meneame:user>
		<meneame:votes>0</meneame:votes>
		<meneame:karma>8</meneame:karma>
		<meneame:url>https://www.meneame.net/story/discurso-verano-orban-adios-europa</meneame:url>
		<title>#7 Discurso de verano de Orbán: adiós a Europa</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/discurso-verano-orban-adios-europa/c07#c-7</link>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Jul 2023 21:23:27 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>--147613--</dc:creator>
		<guid>https://www.meneame.net/story/discurso-verano-orban-adios-europa/c07#c-7</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[<p><a class="tooltip c:3838681-4" href="https://www.meneame.net/story/discurso-verano-orban-adios-europa/c04#c-4" rel="nofollow">#4</a> Claro. Y así, con esa explicación, te la meten hasta el fondo. <br />
<br />
En mi país puedo elegir representantes. <br />
Pata la UE exijo poder elegir directamente los representantes. No que se elijan a dedo entre ellos.</p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>--147613--</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<meneame:comment_id>38916443</meneame:comment_id>
		<meneame:link_id>3838681</meneame:link_id>
		<meneame:order>6</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>kkmonokk</meneame:user>
		<meneame:votes>0</meneame:votes>
		<meneame:karma>10</meneame:karma>
		<meneame:url>https://www.meneame.net/story/discurso-verano-orban-adios-europa</meneame:url>
		<title>#6 Discurso de verano de Orbán: adiós a Europa</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/discurso-verano-orban-adios-europa/c06#c-6</link>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Jul 2023 21:02:18 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>kkmonokk</dc:creator>
		<guid>https://www.meneame.net/story/discurso-verano-orban-adios-europa/c06#c-6</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[<p>Orbán, zárd be az ajtót, amikor kijössz!</p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>kkmonokk</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<meneame:comment_id>38916285</meneame:comment_id>
		<meneame:link_id>3838681</meneame:link_id>
		<meneame:order>5</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>valkyria</meneame:user>
		<meneame:votes>2</meneame:votes>
		<meneame:karma>28</meneame:karma>
		<meneame:url>https://www.meneame.net/story/discurso-verano-orban-adios-europa</meneame:url>
		<title>#5 Discurso de verano de Orbán: adiós a Europa</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/discurso-verano-orban-adios-europa/c05#c-5</link>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Jul 2023 20:41:34 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>valkyria</dc:creator>
		<guid>https://www.meneame.net/story/discurso-verano-orban-adios-europa/c05#c-5</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[<p>Que se vayan de la UE. Nadie les retiene y solo perciben fondos. <br />
No queremos los valores de la UE, pero fuera esta sólo Rusia.</p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>valkyria</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<meneame:comment_id>38916197</meneame:comment_id>
		<meneame:link_id>3838681</meneame:link_id>
		<meneame:order>4</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>eldet</meneame:user>
		<meneame:votes>6</meneame:votes>
		<meneame:karma>73</meneame:karma>
		<meneame:url>https://www.meneame.net/story/discurso-verano-orban-adios-europa</meneame:url>
		<title>#4 Discurso de verano de Orbán: adiós a Europa</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/discurso-verano-orban-adios-europa/c04#c-4</link>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Jul 2023 20:29:55 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>eldet</dc:creator>
		<guid>https://www.meneame.net/story/discurso-verano-orban-adios-europa/c04#c-4</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[<p><a class="tooltip c:3838681-2" href="https://www.meneame.net/story/discurso-verano-orban-adios-europa/c02#c-2" rel="nofollow">#2</a> no has votado porque es un sistema parlamentario. Tampoco votas a los jueces, ni en realidad a los presidentes.... Mejor lee antes como funciona</p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>eldet</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<meneame:comment_id>38916189</meneame:comment_id>
		<meneame:link_id>3838681</meneame:link_id>
		<meneame:order>3</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>eldet</meneame:user>
		<meneame:votes>4</meneame:votes>
		<meneame:karma>56</meneame:karma>
		<meneame:url>https://www.meneame.net/story/discurso-verano-orban-adios-europa</meneame:url>
		<title>#3 Discurso de verano de Orbán: adiós a Europa</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/discurso-verano-orban-adios-europa/c03#c-3</link>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Jul 2023 20:28:55 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>eldet</dc:creator>
		<guid>https://www.meneame.net/story/discurso-verano-orban-adios-europa/c03#c-3</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[<p>ojala se marchara, ya que esta como una garrapata</p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>eldet</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<meneame:comment_id>38916064</meneame:comment_id>
		<meneame:link_id>3838681</meneame:link_id>
		<meneame:order>2</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>--147613--</meneame:user>
		<meneame:votes>0</meneame:votes>
		<meneame:karma>8</meneame:karma>
		<meneame:url>https://www.meneame.net/story/discurso-verano-orban-adios-europa</meneame:url>
		<title>#2 Discurso de verano de Orbán: adiós a Europa</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/discurso-verano-orban-adios-europa/c02#c-2</link>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Jul 2023 20:11:51 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>--147613--</dc:creator>
		<guid>https://www.meneame.net/story/discurso-verano-orban-adios-europa/c02#c-2</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[<p>En algunas cosas no va desencaminado.<br />
Quitando las cosas de derechas que Dan asquete, Europa no va bien. Es demasiado grande y quiere contentar a todos y no contenta a nadie.<br />
<br />
Además Europa como es ahora es anti democrática. Yo no he votado ni a Borrell ni a la Ursula ni a la mitad que nos gobiernan.<br />
<br />
Europa ahora no es lo que debería ser.</p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>--147613--</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<meneame:comment_id>38916012</meneame:comment_id>
		<meneame:link_id>3838681</meneame:link_id>
		<meneame:order>1</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>Verdaderofalso</meneame:user>
		<meneame:votes>16</meneame:votes>
		<meneame:karma>200</meneame:karma>
		<meneame:url>https://www.meneame.net/story/discurso-verano-orban-adios-europa</meneame:url>
		<title>#1 Discurso de verano de Orbán: adiós a Europa</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/discurso-verano-orban-adios-europa/c01#c-1</link>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Jul 2023 20:03:54 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Verdaderofalso</dc:creator>
		<guid>https://www.meneame.net/story/discurso-verano-orban-adios-europa/c01#c-1</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[<p>De esto nos libramos el 23J<br />
<br />
<i><b>Abascal quiere negociar con Feijóo medidas copiadas del ultra Orbán que rechaza el PP europeo<br />
Vox pretende que un hipotético Gobierno de coalición con los populares asuma la parte de su programa “proporcional a los resultados</b>”</i><br />
<a href="https://elpais.com/espana/elecciones-generales/2023-07-09/abascal-quiere-negociar-con-feijoo-medidas-copiadas-del-ultra-orban-que-rechaza-el-pp-europeo.html?outputType=amp" title="elpais.com/espana/elecciones-generales/2023-07-09/abascal-quiere-negociar-con-feijoo-medidas-copiadas-del-ultra-orban-que-rechaza-el-pp-europeo.html?outputType=amp" rel="nofollow">elpais.com/espana/elecciones-generales/2023-07-09/abascal-quiere-negoc</a></p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>Verdaderofalso</strong></p>]]></description>
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