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		<meneame:order>16</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>arturios</meneame:user>
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		<title>#16 Mito de la caverna de Platón</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/mito-caverna-platon/c016#c-16</link>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Dec 2022 08:41:43 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>arturios</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[<p><a class="tooltip c:3761517-1" href="https://www.meneame.net/story/mito-caverna-platon/c01#c-1" rel="nofollow">#1</a> Ah! la cutre-serie, yo pensando que era una referencia al fin del protagonismo internacional de España a finales del siglo XIX, que provocó una serie de personas que añoraban el imperio español, el catolicismo fundamentalista y el modelo absolutista, que más tarde dieron pie a los ideólogos de la falange y el fascismo patrio, que luego dieron un golpe de estado, cuarenta años de dictadura, otros cuarenta de disimulo, la prensa facha, VOX, Pp y demás, también conocidos como &#34;La Caverna&#34;<sup><sup>tm</sup></sup>.<br />
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PD: Nunca sobre estimes...</p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>arturios</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<meneame:comment_id>37412464</meneame:comment_id>
		<meneame:link_id>3761517</meneame:link_id>
		<meneame:order>15</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>arturios</meneame:user>
		<meneame:votes>2</meneame:votes>
		<meneame:karma>31</meneame:karma>
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		<title>#15 Mito de la caverna de Platón</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/mito-caverna-platon/c015#c-15</link>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Dec 2022 08:33:29 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>arturios</dc:creator>
		<guid>https://www.meneame.net/story/mito-caverna-platon/c015#c-15</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[<p><a class="tooltip c:3761517-2" href="https://www.meneame.net/story/mito-caverna-platon/c02#c-2" rel="nofollow">#2</a> Psss, ya sabes, más vale malo conocido...<br />
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Dejando a parte eso, desde que lo estudié siempre me pareció que Platón invertía las cosas, el creía que las ideas <b>eran la realidad</b> y lo que se percibía sólo sombras deformes, pero es más bien al revés, las sombras deformes <b>crean la idea</b> general y esta no deja de ser una abstracción, una &#34;sombra&#34; de la realidad, justamente lo contrario a su tesis.</p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>arturios</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<meneame:comment_id>37412284</meneame:comment_id>
		<meneame:link_id>3761517</meneame:link_id>
		<meneame:order>14</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>--365186--</meneame:user>
		<meneame:votes>0</meneame:votes>
		<meneame:karma>9</meneame:karma>
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		<title>#14 Mito de la caverna de Platón</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/mito-caverna-platon/c014#c-14</link>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Dec 2022 08:11:03 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>--365186--</dc:creator>
		<guid>https://www.meneame.net/story/mito-caverna-platon/c014#c-14</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[<p><a class="tooltip c:3761517-11" href="https://www.meneame.net/story/mito-caverna-platon/c011#c-11" rel="nofollow">#11</a> mmm me voy a dedicar a enviaros a mi comentario <a class="tooltip c:3761517-7" href="https://www.meneame.net/story/mito-caverna-platon/c07#c-7" rel="nofollow">#7</a> y <a class="tooltip c:3761517-12" href="https://www.meneame.net/story/mito-caverna-platon/c012#c-12" rel="nofollow">#12</a></p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>--365186--</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<meneame:comment_id>37412278</meneame:comment_id>
		<meneame:link_id>3761517</meneame:link_id>
		<meneame:order>13</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>kumo</meneame:user>
		<meneame:votes>1</meneame:votes>
		<meneame:karma>19</meneame:karma>
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		<title>#13 Mito de la caverna de Platón</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/mito-caverna-platon/c013#c-13</link>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Dec 2022 08:09:56 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>kumo</dc:creator>
		<guid>https://www.meneame.net/story/mito-caverna-platon/c013#c-13</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[<p>MNM es la caverna <img data-src="https://cdn.mnmstatic.net/v_149/img/menemojis/36/lol.gif" alt="xD" title=":lol: xD" width="18" height="18" src="https://cdn.mnmstatic.net/v_149/img/g.gif" class="emoji lazy" /><br />
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Lo que no suele recordar la gente es que como en El Señor de las Moscas o Juan Salvador Gaviota, al que vuelve con la verdad lo suelen apiolar, porque prefieren creer en sus sombras... O ecos.</p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>kumo</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<meneame:comment_id>37412276</meneame:comment_id>
		<meneame:link_id>3761517</meneame:link_id>
		<meneame:order>12</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>--365186--</meneame:user>
		<meneame:votes>1</meneame:votes>
		<meneame:karma>21</meneame:karma>
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		<title>#12 Mito de la caverna de Platón</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/mito-caverna-platon/c012#c-12</link>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Dec 2022 08:09:31 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>--365186--</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[<p><a class="tooltip c:3761517-10" href="https://www.meneame.net/story/mito-caverna-platon/c010#c-10" rel="nofollow">#10</a> gracias por tu maravillosa aportación...<br />
Voy a poner la carita de troll para que se entienda que es irónico <img data-src="https://cdn.mnmstatic.net/v_149/img/menemojis/36/troll.png" alt=":troll:" title=":troll:" width="18" height="18" src="https://cdn.mnmstatic.net/v_149/img/g.gif" class="emoji lazy" /></p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>--365186--</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<meneame:comment_id>37412267</meneame:comment_id>
		<meneame:link_id>3761517</meneame:link_id>
		<meneame:order>11</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>danifart</meneame:user>
		<meneame:votes>0</meneame:votes>
		<meneame:karma>6</meneame:karma>
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		<title>#11 Mito de la caverna de Platón</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/mito-caverna-platon/c011#c-11</link>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Dec 2022 08:08:45 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>danifart</dc:creator>
		<guid>https://www.meneame.net/story/mito-caverna-platon/c011#c-11</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[<p><a class="tooltip c:3761517-9" href="https://www.meneame.net/story/mito-caverna-platon/c09#c-9" rel="nofollow">#9</a> se ve de que pie cojeas a leguas, seas o no demócrata.</p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>danifart</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<meneame:comment_id>37412239</meneame:comment_id>
		<meneame:link_id>3761517</meneame:link_id>
		<meneame:order>10</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>--677377--</meneame:user>
		<meneame:votes>0</meneame:votes>
		<meneame:karma>9</meneame:karma>
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		<title>#10 Mito de la caverna de Platón</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/mito-caverna-platon/c010#c-10</link>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Dec 2022 08:05:23 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>--677377--</dc:creator>
		<guid>https://www.meneame.net/story/mito-caverna-platon/c010#c-10</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[<p><a class="tooltip c:3761517-9" href="https://www.meneame.net/story/mito-caverna-platon/c09#c-9" rel="nofollow">#9</a> no</p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>--677377--</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<meneame:comment_id>37412232</meneame:comment_id>
		<meneame:link_id>3761517</meneame:link_id>
		<meneame:order>9</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>--365186--</meneame:user>
		<meneame:votes>0</meneame:votes>
		<meneame:karma>9</meneame:karma>
		<meneame:url>https://www.meneame.net/story/mito-caverna-platon</meneame:url>
		<title>#9 Mito de la caverna de Platón</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/mito-caverna-platon/c09#c-9</link>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Dec 2022 08:03:23 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>--365186--</dc:creator>
		<guid>https://www.meneame.net/story/mito-caverna-platon/c09#c-9</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[<p><a class="tooltip c:3761517-8" href="https://www.meneame.net/story/mito-caverna-platon/c08#c-8" rel="nofollow">#8</a> y no serás tu el que ve las sombras y cree que es la realidad??? No viene al pelo. No soy demócrata ergo no voto a podemos ni tengo nada que ver con ese partido ni con ningún otro.<br />
El argumento en <a class="tooltip c:3761517-5" href="https://www.meneame.net/story/mito-caverna-platon/c05#c-5" rel="nofollow">#5</a> no tiene sentido entonces y reafirma mi pregunta inicial en este comentario.</p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>--365186--</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<meneame:comment_id>37412213</meneame:comment_id>
		<meneame:link_id>3761517</meneame:link_id>
		<meneame:order>8</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>--677377--</meneame:user>
		<meneame:votes>0</meneame:votes>
		<meneame:karma>9</meneame:karma>
		<meneame:url>https://www.meneame.net/story/mito-caverna-platon</meneame:url>
		<title>#8 Mito de la caverna de Platón</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/mito-caverna-platon/c08#c-8</link>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Dec 2022 07:59:21 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>--677377--</dc:creator>
		<guid>https://www.meneame.net/story/mito-caverna-platon/c08#c-8</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[<p><a class="tooltip c:3761517-7" href="https://www.meneame.net/story/mito-caverna-platon/c07#c-7" rel="nofollow">#7</a> no pongas nada, viene que ni al pelo</p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>--677377--</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<meneame:comment_id>37412209</meneame:comment_id>
		<meneame:link_id>3761517</meneame:link_id>
		<meneame:order>7</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>--365186--</meneame:user>
		<meneame:votes>1</meneame:votes>
		<meneame:karma>21</meneame:karma>
		<meneame:url>https://www.meneame.net/story/mito-caverna-platon</meneame:url>
		<title>#7 Mito de la caverna de Platón</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/mito-caverna-platon/c07#c-7</link>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Dec 2022 07:57:42 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>--365186--</dc:creator>
		<guid>https://www.meneame.net/story/mito-caverna-platon/c07#c-7</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[<p><a class="tooltip c:3761517-5" href="https://www.meneame.net/story/mito-caverna-platon/c05#c-5" rel="nofollow">#5</a> gracias por tu maravillosa aportación...<br />
Voy a poner la carita de troll para que se entienda que es irónico <img data-src="https://cdn.mnmstatic.net/v_149/img/menemojis/36/troll.png" alt=":troll:" title=":troll:" width="18" height="18" src="https://cdn.mnmstatic.net/v_149/img/g.gif" class="emoji lazy" /></p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>--365186--</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<meneame:comment_id>37412197</meneame:comment_id>
		<meneame:link_id>3761517</meneame:link_id>
		<meneame:order>6</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>--604586--</meneame:user>
		<meneame:votes>0</meneame:votes>
		<meneame:karma>12</meneame:karma>
		<meneame:url>https://www.meneame.net/story/mito-caverna-platon</meneame:url>
		<title>#6 Mito de la caverna de Platón</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/mito-caverna-platon/c06#c-6</link>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Dec 2022 07:55:24 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>--604586--</dc:creator>
		<guid>https://www.meneame.net/story/mito-caverna-platon/c06#c-6</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[<p><a class="tooltip c:3761517-1" href="https://www.meneame.net/story/mito-caverna-platon/c01#c-1" rel="nofollow">#1</a> lo siento, pero la encontré tan aburrida que no pasé del primer episodio <img data-src="https://cdn.mnmstatic.net/v_149/img/menemojis/36/blank.png" alt=":-|" title=":-| :|" width="18" height="18" src="https://cdn.mnmstatic.net/v_149/img/g.gif" class="emoji lazy" /></p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>--604586--</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<meneame:comment_id>37412173</meneame:comment_id>
		<meneame:link_id>3761517</meneame:link_id>
		<meneame:order>5</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>--677377--</meneame:user>
		<meneame:votes>2</meneame:votes>
		<meneame:karma>4</meneame:karma>
		<meneame:url>https://www.meneame.net/story/mito-caverna-platon</meneame:url>
		<title>#5 Mito de la caverna de Platón</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/mito-caverna-platon/c05#c-5</link>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Dec 2022 07:51:36 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>--677377--</dc:creator>
		<guid>https://www.meneame.net/story/mito-caverna-platon/c05#c-5</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[<p>La podemiada de meneame es el ejemplo perfecto de este mito de la caverna.</p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>--677377--</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<meneame:comment_id>37412163</meneame:comment_id>
		<meneame:link_id>3761517</meneame:link_id>
		<meneame:order>4</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>--740264--</meneame:user>
		<meneame:votes>0</meneame:votes>
		<meneame:karma>11</meneame:karma>
		<meneame:url>https://www.meneame.net/story/mito-caverna-platon</meneame:url>
		<title>#4 Mito de la caverna de Platón</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/mito-caverna-platon/c04#c-4</link>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Dec 2022 07:49:35 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>--740264--</dc:creator>
		<guid>https://www.meneame.net/story/mito-caverna-platon/c04#c-4</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[<p>Qué malos recuerdos de aquella selectividad... <img data-src="https://cdn.mnmstatic.net/v_149/img/menemojis/36/confused.png" alt=":-S" title=":-S :S" width="18" height="18" src="https://cdn.mnmstatic.net/v_149/img/g.gif" class="emoji lazy" /></p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>--740264--</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<meneame:comment_id>37412143</meneame:comment_id>
		<meneame:link_id>3761517</meneame:link_id>
		<meneame:order>3</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>--365186--</meneame:user>
		<meneame:votes>0</meneame:votes>
		<meneame:karma>9</meneame:karma>
		<meneame:url>https://www.meneame.net/story/mito-caverna-platon</meneame:url>
		<title>#3 Mito de la caverna de Platón</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/mito-caverna-platon/c03#c-3</link>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Dec 2022 07:44:49 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>--365186--</dc:creator>
		<guid>https://www.meneame.net/story/mito-caverna-platon/c03#c-3</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[<p><a class="tooltip c:3761517-1" href="https://www.meneame.net/story/mito-caverna-platon/c01#c-1" rel="nofollow">#1</a> Lo siento, no entiendo.</p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>--365186--</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<meneame:comment_id>37412131</meneame:comment_id>
		<meneame:link_id>3761517</meneame:link_id>
		<meneame:order>2</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>--365186--</meneame:user>
		<meneame:votes>1</meneame:votes>
		<meneame:karma>21</meneame:karma>
		<meneame:url>https://www.meneame.net/story/mito-caverna-platon</meneame:url>
		<title>#2 Mito de la caverna de Platón</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/mito-caverna-platon/c02#c-2</link>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Dec 2022 07:42:28 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>--365186--</dc:creator>
		<guid>https://www.meneame.net/story/mito-caverna-platon/c02#c-2</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[<p>Llevo días pensando en esto, es algo que todos memorizamos en algún momento pero creo que muchos no entendimos o simplemente no le dimos importancia...<br />
<br />
Discusión eterna: se vive más feliz siendo ignorante?<br />
<br />
Hace tiempo decidí que no. Vivir en esa cueva llena de cadenas y cadáveres de gato no le hace bien a nadie. Saberse ahí y regodearse es flagelarse por imbecilidad... Salir de la cueva da un miedo terrible y encima no ayuda que sea muy doloroso. La incertidumbre es un monstruo de mierda. <br />
Vivir sin cadenas y tumbarse bajo un árbol mientras disfrutas el sol merece la pena.</p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>--365186--</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<meneame:comment_id>37412107</meneame:comment_id>
		<meneame:link_id>3761517</meneame:link_id>
		<meneame:order>1</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>Popsandbangs</meneame:user>
		<meneame:votes>1</meneame:votes>
		<meneame:karma>20</meneame:karma>
		<meneame:url>https://www.meneame.net/story/mito-caverna-platon</meneame:url>
		<title>#1 Mito de la caverna de Platón</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/mito-caverna-platon/c01#c-1</link>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Dec 2022 07:38:31 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Popsandbangs</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[<p>Es este el club de damnificados por 1899?</p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>Popsandbangs</strong></p>]]></description>
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