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		<meneame:comment_id>1943915</meneame:comment_id>
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		<meneame:order>12</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>--3560--</meneame:user>
		<meneame:votes>0</meneame:votes>
		<meneame:karma>9</meneame:karma>
		<meneame:url>https://www.meneame.net/story/liberada-primera-version-moonlight-silverlight-libre-para-linux</meneame:url>
		<title>#12 Liberada la primera versión de Moonlight: Silverlight libre para Linux</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/liberada-primera-version-moonlight-silverlight-libre-para-linux/c012#c-12</link>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 May 2008 15:41:47 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>--3560--</dc:creator>
		<guid>https://www.meneame.net/story/liberada-primera-version-moonlight-silverlight-libre-para-linux/c012#c-12</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[<p><a class="tooltip c:375416-11" href="https://www.meneame.net/story/liberada-primera-version-moonlight-silverlight-libre-para-linux/c011#c-11" rel="nofollow">#11</a> Cuando algunos programas y estándares cerrados proliferan, algunas personas deciden hacer implementaciones libres y abiertas de ellos, aunque sean incompletas, para preservar su propia libertad y la de los demas.<br />
Con Moonlight ocurre lo contrario, se ofrece como alternativa libre a algo que (por suerte) no está extendido ni adoptado por nadie, habiendo alternativas abiertas como Openlaszlo, Flex o JavaFX. Su misión es eclipsar las opciones abiertas en favor a las cerradas. Moonlight es la 'solución' (por ahora no hay ningun problema) <strike>ejem</strike> 'abierta' para que se catalice la adopción de una solución cerrada, Silverlight. Mono es lo mismo con respecto a .net. Esa es la misión que Microsoft le ha designado a Novell, y por la que hacen acuerdos comerciales.</p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>--3560--</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<meneame:comment_id>1943747</meneame:comment_id>
		<meneame:link_id>375416</meneame:link_id>
		<meneame:order>11</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>--39001--</meneame:user>
		<meneame:votes>0</meneame:votes>
		<meneame:karma>6</meneame:karma>
		<meneame:url>https://www.meneame.net/story/liberada-primera-version-moonlight-silverlight-libre-para-linux</meneame:url>
		<title>#11 Liberada la primera versión de Moonlight: Silverlight libre para Linux</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/liberada-primera-version-moonlight-silverlight-libre-para-linux/c011#c-11</link>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 May 2008 15:16:17 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>--39001--</dc:creator>
		<guid>https://www.meneame.net/story/liberada-primera-version-moonlight-silverlight-libre-para-linux/c011#c-11</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[<p>[Usuario deshabilitado]</p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>--39001--</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<meneame:comment_id>1942599</meneame:comment_id>
		<meneame:link_id>375416</meneame:link_id>
		<meneame:order>10</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>knocte</meneame:user>
		<meneame:votes>1</meneame:votes>
		<meneame:karma>-3</meneame:karma>
		<meneame:url>https://www.meneame.net/story/liberada-primera-version-moonlight-silverlight-libre-para-linux</meneame:url>
		<title>#10 Liberada la primera versión de Moonlight: Silverlight libre para Linux</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/liberada-primera-version-moonlight-silverlight-libre-para-linux/c010#c-10</link>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 May 2008 11:54:21 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>knocte</dc:creator>
		<guid>https://www.meneame.net/story/liberada-primera-version-moonlight-silverlight-libre-para-linux/c010#c-10</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[<p><a class="tooltip c:375416-8" href="https://www.meneame.net/story/liberada-primera-version-moonlight-silverlight-libre-para-linux/c08#c-8" rel="nofollow">#8</a>: Y por cierto conozco muy bien la existencia de Gnash: <a href="http://knocte.blogspot.com/2008/05/now-gnash-is-to-flash-what-mono-is-to.html" title="knocte.blogspot.com/2008/05/now-gnash-is-to-flash-what-mono-is-to.html" rel="nofollow">knocte.blogspot.com/2008/05/now-gnash-is-to-flash-what-mono-is-to.html</a></p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>knocte</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<meneame:comment_id>1942581</meneame:comment_id>
		<meneame:link_id>375416</meneame:link_id>
		<meneame:order>9</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>knocte</meneame:user>
		<meneame:votes>1</meneame:votes>
		<meneame:karma>-3</meneame:karma>
		<meneame:url>https://www.meneame.net/story/liberada-primera-version-moonlight-silverlight-libre-para-linux</meneame:url>
		<title>#9 Liberada la primera versión de Moonlight: Silverlight libre para Linux</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/liberada-primera-version-moonlight-silverlight-libre-para-linux/c09#c-9</link>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 May 2008 11:52:06 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>knocte</dc:creator>
		<guid>https://www.meneame.net/story/liberada-primera-version-moonlight-silverlight-libre-para-linux/c09#c-9</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[<p><a class="tooltip c:375416-8" href="https://www.meneame.net/story/liberada-primera-version-moonlight-silverlight-libre-para-linux/c08#c-8" rel="nofollow">#8</a>: Te equivocas tu, yo no he hablado de la especificacion de Flash, he hablado de AdobeFlash, del software.</p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>knocte</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<meneame:comment_id>1942545</meneame:comment_id>
		<meneame:link_id>375416</meneame:link_id>
		<meneame:order>8</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>--66738--</meneame:user>
		<meneame:votes>1</meneame:votes>
		<meneame:karma>16</meneame:karma>
		<meneame:url>https://www.meneame.net/story/liberada-primera-version-moonlight-silverlight-libre-para-linux</meneame:url>
		<title>#8 Liberada la primera versión de Moonlight: Silverlight libre para Linux</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/liberada-primera-version-moonlight-silverlight-libre-para-linux/c08#c-8</link>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 May 2008 11:44:53 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>--66738--</dc:creator>
		<guid>https://www.meneame.net/story/liberada-primera-version-moonlight-silverlight-libre-para-linux/c08#c-8</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[<p>[Usuario deshabilitado]</p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>--66738--</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<meneame:comment_id>1942331</meneame:comment_id>
		<meneame:link_id>375416</meneame:link_id>
		<meneame:order>7</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>--3560--</meneame:user>
		<meneame:votes>1</meneame:votes>
		<meneame:karma>21</meneame:karma>
		<meneame:url>https://www.meneame.net/story/liberada-primera-version-moonlight-silverlight-libre-para-linux</meneame:url>
		<title>#7 Liberada la primera versión de Moonlight: Silverlight libre para Linux</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/liberada-primera-version-moonlight-silverlight-libre-para-linux/c07#c-7</link>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 May 2008 11:04:42 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>--3560--</dc:creator>
		<guid>https://www.meneame.net/story/liberada-primera-version-moonlight-silverlight-libre-para-linux/c07#c-7</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[<p><a class="tooltip c:375416-6" href="https://www.meneame.net/story/liberada-primera-version-moonlight-silverlight-libre-para-linux/c06#c-6" rel="nofollow">#6</a> ¿Tu eres tonto no?</p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>--3560--</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<meneame:comment_id>1942121</meneame:comment_id>
		<meneame:link_id>375416</meneame:link_id>
		<meneame:order>6</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>knocte</meneame:user>
		<meneame:votes>2</meneame:votes>
		<meneame:karma>-15</meneame:karma>
		<meneame:url>https://www.meneame.net/story/liberada-primera-version-moonlight-silverlight-libre-para-linux</meneame:url>
		<title>#6 Liberada la primera versión de Moonlight: Silverlight libre para Linux</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/liberada-primera-version-moonlight-silverlight-libre-para-linux/c06#c-6</link>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 May 2008 10:30:10 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>knocte</dc:creator>
		<guid>https://www.meneame.net/story/liberada-primera-version-moonlight-silverlight-libre-para-linux/c06#c-6</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[<p>Al que pone el enlace a boycottnovell.com: ?Cuando os vais a dar cuenta de una maldita vez que si no fuera por Silverlight, Adobe mantendria su posicion de monopolio en este tipo de tecnologias? A los que se llevan las manos a la cabeza de que Moonlight incluya codecs propietarios, y luego usen YouTube, que se quiten el tapon del culo que les impide pensar y darse cuenta de que Adobe Flash es propietario todo en su conjunto, no solo los codecs.</p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>knocte</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<meneame:comment_id>1941250</meneame:comment_id>
		<meneame:link_id>375416</meneame:link_id>
		<meneame:order>5</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>--2873--</meneame:user>
		<meneame:votes>0</meneame:votes>
		<meneame:karma>11</meneame:karma>
		<meneame:url>https://www.meneame.net/story/liberada-primera-version-moonlight-silverlight-libre-para-linux</meneame:url>
		<title>#5 Liberada la primera versión de Moonlight: Silverlight libre para Linux</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/liberada-primera-version-moonlight-silverlight-libre-para-linux/c05#c-5</link>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 May 2008 08:15:58 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>--2873--</dc:creator>
		<guid>https://www.meneame.net/story/liberada-primera-version-moonlight-silverlight-libre-para-linux/c05#c-5</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[<p>¿Dentro de esos codecs puede haber puertas traseras y/o agujeros de seguridad?... pregunto...</p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>--2873--</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<meneame:comment_id>1941109</meneame:comment_id>
		<meneame:link_id>375416</meneame:link_id>
		<meneame:order>4</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>--86565--</meneame:user>
		<meneame:votes>1</meneame:votes>
		<meneame:karma>16</meneame:karma>
		<meneame:url>https://www.meneame.net/story/liberada-primera-version-moonlight-silverlight-libre-para-linux</meneame:url>
		<title>#4 Liberada la primera versión de Moonlight: Silverlight libre para Linux</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/liberada-primera-version-moonlight-silverlight-libre-para-linux/c04#c-4</link>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 May 2008 07:48:50 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>--86565--</dc:creator>
		<guid>https://www.meneame.net/story/liberada-primera-version-moonlight-silverlight-libre-para-linux/c04#c-4</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[<p>[Usuario deshabilitado]</p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>--86565--</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<meneame:comment_id>1941104</meneame:comment_id>
		<meneame:link_id>375416</meneame:link_id>
		<meneame:order>3</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>--3560--</meneame:user>
		<meneame:votes>2</meneame:votes>
		<meneame:karma>30</meneame:karma>
		<meneame:url>https://www.meneame.net/story/liberada-primera-version-moonlight-silverlight-libre-para-linux</meneame:url>
		<title>#3 Liberada la primera versión de Moonlight: Silverlight libre para Linux</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/liberada-primera-version-moonlight-silverlight-libre-para-linux/c03#c-3</link>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 May 2008 07:47:07 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>--3560--</dc:creator>
		<guid>https://www.meneame.net/story/liberada-primera-version-moonlight-silverlight-libre-para-linux/c03#c-3</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://www.novell.com/products/desktop/moonlight_faq.html" title="www.novell.com/products/desktop/moonlight_faq.html" rel="nofollow">www.novell.com/products/desktop/moonlight_faq.html</a><br />
<br />
Moonlight FAQ:<br />
<br />
-Will Moonlight be open source?<br />
<br />
-The Moonlight browser plug-in, the graphics engine and Mono runtime which will be available from Novell are open source components. The <strong>necessary</strong> audio and video codecs are <strong>proprietary</strong> components.<br />
<br />
Es libre solo que los codecs audio y video <strong>necesarios</strong> son propietarios.<br />
<br />
-How are Microsoft and Novell collaborating to provide Moonlight?<br />
-This collaboration between Microsoft and Novell is a formal engineering development program. Novell is bringing the .NET-based Silverlight framework to Mono, an open source framework for running .NET applications on multiple platforms including Linux. Microsoft is providing a <strong>version</strong> of the necessary codecs for Linux.<br />
<br />
Microsoft suministra una <em>version</em> de los codecs para Linux...<br />
<br />
¿No hay otros estándares y codecs libres ya? <br />
<br />
<a href="http://boycottnovell.com/" title="boycottnovell.com/" rel="nofollow">boycottnovell.com/</a></p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>--3560--</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<meneame:comment_id>1940810</meneame:comment_id>
		<meneame:link_id>375416</meneame:link_id>
		<meneame:order>2</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>zxgeek</meneame:user>
		<meneame:votes>0</meneame:votes>
		<meneame:karma>6</meneame:karma>
		<meneame:url>https://www.meneame.net/story/liberada-primera-version-moonlight-silverlight-libre-para-linux</meneame:url>
		<title>#2 Liberada la primera versión de Moonlight: Silverlight libre para Linux</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/liberada-primera-version-moonlight-silverlight-libre-para-linux/c02#c-2</link>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 May 2008 06:08:27 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>zxgeek</dc:creator>
		<guid>https://www.meneame.net/story/liberada-primera-version-moonlight-silverlight-libre-para-linux/c02#c-2</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[<p><a class="tooltip c:375416-1" href="https://www.meneame.net/story/liberada-primera-version-moonlight-silverlight-libre-para-linux/c01#c-1" rel="nofollow">#1</a> Efectívamente, Mono es la implementación para Mac y Linux del Microsoft .NET Framework.</p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>zxgeek</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<meneame:comment_id>1940806</meneame:comment_id>
		<meneame:link_id>375416</meneame:link_id>
		<meneame:order>1</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>Juanal</meneame:user>
		<meneame:votes>0</meneame:votes>
		<meneame:karma>9</meneame:karma>
		<meneame:url>https://www.meneame.net/story/liberada-primera-version-moonlight-silverlight-libre-para-linux</meneame:url>
		<title>#1 Liberada la primera versión de Moonlight: Silverlight libre para Linux</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/liberada-primera-version-moonlight-silverlight-libre-para-linux/c01#c-1</link>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 May 2008 06:05:28 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Juanal</dc:creator>
		<guid>https://www.meneame.net/story/liberada-primera-version-moonlight-silverlight-libre-para-linux/c01#c-1</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[<p>Una pregunta rapidilla (sé que quizá el lugar sea el foro de Ubuntu y no aquí)...¿Mono no es el equivalente del .NET?</p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>Juanal</strong></p>]]></description>
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