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		<meneame:user>Idomeneo</meneame:user>
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		<title>#32 Desensamblado del microcódigo del Intel 8086 [ENG]</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/desensamblado-microcodigo-intel-8086-eng/c032#c-32</link>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Sep 2020 12:18:01 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Idomeneo</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[<p><a class="tooltip c:3374686-31" href="https://www.meneame.net/story/desensamblado-microcodigo-intel-8086-eng/c031#c-31" rel="nofollow">#31</a> Sí, muy bien, pero en <a class="tooltip c:3374686-5" href="https://www.meneame.net/story/desensamblado-microcodigo-intel-8086-eng/c05#c-5" rel="nofollow">#5</a> parece que tratas de echarle la culpa al 8086 de una cosa de la que es inocente, o que quieres hacerlo &#34;culpable por asociación&#34; (al ser la captura previa un prerrequisito para tener predicción de saltos). Como si el 8086 no tuviera ya otros defectos...</p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>Idomeneo</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<meneame:comment_id>30857835</meneame:comment_id>
		<meneame:link_id>3374686</meneame:link_id>
		<meneame:order>31</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>piquillo</meneame:user>
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		<meneame:karma>8</meneame:karma>
		<meneame:url>https://www.meneame.net/story/desensamblado-microcodigo-intel-8086-eng</meneame:url>
		<title>#31 Desensamblado del microcódigo del Intel 8086 [ENG]</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/desensamblado-microcodigo-intel-8086-eng/c031#c-31</link>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Sep 2020 11:22:22 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>piquillo</dc:creator>
		<guid>https://www.meneame.net/story/desensamblado-microcodigo-intel-8086-eng/c031#c-31</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[<p><a class="tooltip c:3374686-30" href="https://www.meneame.net/story/desensamblado-microcodigo-intel-8086-eng/c030#c-30" rel="nofollow">#30</a> No tenia prediccion de saltos, pero es la primera vez que se uso la captura previa de instrucciones en la que se basa la prediccion de saltos con acceso directo a toda la memoria.<br />
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<i><br />
One feature of the 8086 was instruction prefetching, which improved performance by fetching instructions from memory before they were needed. This was implemented by the Bus Interface Unit in the upper left, which accessed external memory. <br />
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Una característica del 8086 fue la <b>captura previa de instrucciones</b>, que mejoró el rendimiento al obtener instrucciones de la memoria <b>antes de que fueran necesarias. </b>Esto fue implementado por la unidad de interfaz de bus en la parte superior izquierda, que accedió a la memoria externa.<br />
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<a href="https://www.righto.com/2020/06/a-look-at-die-of-8086-processor.html" title="www.righto.com/2020/06/a-look-at-die-of-8086-processor.html" rel="nofollow">www.righto.com/2020/06/a-look-at-die-of-8086-processor.html</a></i></p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>piquillo</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<meneame:comment_id>30857738</meneame:comment_id>
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		<meneame:order>30</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>Idomeneo</meneame:user>
		<meneame:votes>1</meneame:votes>
		<meneame:karma>12</meneame:karma>
		<meneame:url>https://www.meneame.net/story/desensamblado-microcodigo-intel-8086-eng</meneame:url>
		<title>#30 Desensamblado del microcódigo del Intel 8086 [ENG]</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/desensamblado-microcodigo-intel-8086-eng/c030#c-30</link>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Sep 2020 11:09:38 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Idomeneo</dc:creator>
		<guid>https://www.meneame.net/story/desensamblado-microcodigo-intel-8086-eng/c030#c-30</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[<p><a class="tooltip c:3374686-5" href="https://www.meneame.net/story/desensamblado-microcodigo-intel-8086-eng/c05#c-5" rel="nofollow">#5</a> No sé de dónde sacas eso. En la propia página de Wikipedia dice esto:<br />
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<i>Spectre es una vulnerabilidad que afecta a los microprocesadores modernos que utilizan predicción de saltos.</i><br />
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Pero el 8086 no tenía predicción de saltos:<br />
<br />
<a href="https://stackoverflow.com/questions/32673978/branch-prediction-strategy-of-the-8086-microprocessor" title="stackoverflow.com/questions/32673978/branch-prediction-strategy-of-the-8086-microprocessor" rel="nofollow">stackoverflow.com/questions/32673978/branch-prediction-strategy-of-the</a></p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>Idomeneo</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<meneame:comment_id>30857176</meneame:comment_id>
		<meneame:link_id>3374686</meneame:link_id>
		<meneame:order>29</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>--13404--</meneame:user>
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		<meneame:karma>25</meneame:karma>
		<meneame:url>https://www.meneame.net/story/desensamblado-microcodigo-intel-8086-eng</meneame:url>
		<title>#29 Desensamblado del microcódigo del Intel 8086 [ENG]</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/desensamblado-microcodigo-intel-8086-eng/c029#c-29</link>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Sep 2020 09:54:40 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>--13404--</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[<p>Justamente al verle me fui al user y también a denunciarlo <a href="https://www.meneame.net/notame/3372524" title="www.meneame.net/notame/3372524" rel="nofollow">www.meneame.net/notame/3372524</a><br />
Ha pasado a mejor vida <img data-src="https://cdn.mnmstatic.net/v_149/img/menemojis/36/lol.gif" alt="xD" title=":lol: xD" width="18" height="18" src="https://cdn.mnmstatic.net/v_149/img/g.gif" class="emoji lazy" /> <img data-src="https://cdn.mnmstatic.net/v_149/img/menemojis/36/lol.gif" alt="xD" title=":lol: xD" width="18" height="18" src="https://cdn.mnmstatic.net/v_149/img/g.gif" class="emoji lazy" /><br />
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Positivo para ti (no problemo por el negativo) Daleeeh!</p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>--13404--</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<meneame:comment_id>30857171</meneame:comment_id>
		<meneame:link_id>3374686</meneame:link_id>
		<meneame:order>28</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>piquillo</meneame:user>
		<meneame:votes>1</meneame:votes>
		<meneame:karma>12</meneame:karma>
		<meneame:url>https://www.meneame.net/story/desensamblado-microcodigo-intel-8086-eng</meneame:url>
		<title>#28 Desensamblado del microcódigo del Intel 8086 [ENG]</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/desensamblado-microcodigo-intel-8086-eng/c028#c-28</link>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Sep 2020 09:53:59 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>piquillo</dc:creator>
		<guid>https://www.meneame.net/story/desensamblado-microcodigo-intel-8086-eng/c028#c-28</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[<p><a class="tooltip c:3374686-27" href="https://www.meneame.net/story/desensamblado-microcodigo-intel-8086-eng/c027#c-27" rel="nofollow">#27</a> Si. <img data-src="https://cdn.mnmstatic.net/v_149/img/menemojis/36/roll.gif" alt=":roll:" title=":roll:" width="18" height="18" src="https://cdn.mnmstatic.net/v_149/img/g.gif" class="emoji lazy" /> <br />
<br />
<a href="https://www.notebookcheck.net/The-Snapdragon-8150-makes-its-way-to-AnTuTu-outperforms-Apple-s-A12-Bionic.361886.0.html" title="www.notebookcheck.net/The-Snapdragon-8150-makes-its-way-to-AnTuTu-outperforms-Apple-s-A12-Bionic.361886.0.html" rel="nofollow">www.notebookcheck.net/The-Snapdragon-8150-makes-its-way-to-AnTuTu-outp</a><br />
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<i>&#34;Pero con todo, el Snapdragon 8150 nos ha dejado realmente impresionados en esta primera aparición. El cerebro ha obtenido <b>362.292 puntos</b> en su prueba de rendimiento, mostrando puntuaciones individuales que desbancan, según la propia app, al 99% de los usuarios en cada una de ellas. Tanto en GPU como en GPU, interfaz y memoria, el Snapdragon 8150 debe llegar al mercado para ponerse en cabeza.<br />
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Sus principales rivales, con la salvedad del Exynos 9820 que se acaba de presentar pero aún no ha enseñado la patita por debajo la puerta, quedan a cierta distancia de él. 313.341 son los puntos que obtuvo el iPhone XS durante el análisis que realizamos aquí, <b>324.371 para el iPhone</b> XS Max y 270.728 puntos para el Huawei Mate 20 Pro. Las puntuaciones, por tanto, del <b>Apple A12 </b>Bionic y del Kirin 980.&#34;</i><br />
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<a href="https://www.xatakamovil.com/desarrollo/snapdragon-8150-aparece-antutu-espectacular-puntuacion-algunos-datos-extra" title="www.xatakamovil.com/desarrollo/snapdragon-8150-aparece-antutu-espectacular-puntuacion-algunos-datos-extra" rel="nofollow">www.xatakamovil.com/desarrollo/snapdragon-8150-aparece-antutu-espectac</a></p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>piquillo</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<meneame:comment_id>30857113</meneame:comment_id>
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		<meneame:order>27</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>Komod0r</meneame:user>
		<meneame:votes>0</meneame:votes>
		<meneame:karma>6</meneame:karma>
		<meneame:url>https://www.meneame.net/story/desensamblado-microcodigo-intel-8086-eng</meneame:url>
		<title>#27 Desensamblado del microcódigo del Intel 8086 [ENG]</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/desensamblado-microcodigo-intel-8086-eng/c027#c-27</link>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Sep 2020 09:47:39 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Komod0r</dc:creator>
		<guid>https://www.meneame.net/story/desensamblado-microcodigo-intel-8086-eng/c027#c-27</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[<p><a class="tooltip c:3374686-25" href="https://www.meneame.net/story/desensamblado-microcodigo-intel-8086-eng/c025#c-25" rel="nofollow">#25</a> Cerca en potencia del A12?  <img data-src="https://cdn.mnmstatic.net/v_149/img/twemojis/36/1f602.png" alt="{0x1f602}" title="{0x1f602}" width="18" height="18" src="https://cdn.mnmstatic.net/v_149/img/g.gif" class="emoji lazy" /> </p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>Komod0r</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<meneame:comment_id>30856844</meneame:comment_id>
		<meneame:link_id>3374686</meneame:link_id>
		<meneame:order>26</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>piquillo</meneame:user>
		<meneame:votes>0</meneame:votes>
		<meneame:karma>8</meneame:karma>
		<meneame:url>https://www.meneame.net/story/desensamblado-microcodigo-intel-8086-eng</meneame:url>
		<title>#26 Desensamblado del microcódigo del Intel 8086 [ENG]</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/desensamblado-microcodigo-intel-8086-eng/c026#c-26</link>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Sep 2020 09:16:53 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>piquillo</dc:creator>
		<guid>https://www.meneame.net/story/desensamblado-microcodigo-intel-8086-eng/c026#c-26</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[<p><a class="tooltip c:3374686-24" href="https://www.meneame.net/story/desensamblado-microcodigo-intel-8086-eng/c024#c-24" rel="nofollow">#24</a> Si, el tema en los de tantos nucleos se dispara. Pero bueno, eso no es un procesador de consumo, aunque no cabe duda que en unos años eso sera lo normal.</p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>piquillo</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<meneame:comment_id>30856832</meneame:comment_id>
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		<meneame:order>25</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>piquillo</meneame:user>
		<meneame:votes>0</meneame:votes>
		<meneame:karma>8</meneame:karma>
		<meneame:url>https://www.meneame.net/story/desensamblado-microcodigo-intel-8086-eng</meneame:url>
		<title>#25 Desensamblado del microcódigo del Intel 8086 [ENG]</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/desensamblado-microcodigo-intel-8086-eng/c025#c-25</link>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Sep 2020 09:15:01 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>piquillo</dc:creator>
		<guid>https://www.meneame.net/story/desensamblado-microcodigo-intel-8086-eng/c025#c-25</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[<p><a class="tooltip c:3374686-23" href="https://www.meneame.net/story/desensamblado-microcodigo-intel-8086-eng/c023#c-23" rel="nofollow">#23</a> No creas. Los Qualcom son ARM y estan muy cerca en potencia.</p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>piquillo</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<meneame:comment_id>30856767</meneame:comment_id>
		<meneame:link_id>3374686</meneame:link_id>
		<meneame:order>24</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>jaldepiqui</meneame:user>
		<meneame:votes>2</meneame:votes>
		<meneame:karma>23</meneame:karma>
		<meneame:url>https://www.meneame.net/story/desensamblado-microcodigo-intel-8086-eng</meneame:url>
		<title>#24 Desensamblado del microcódigo del Intel 8086 [ENG]</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/desensamblado-microcodigo-intel-8086-eng/c024#c-24</link>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Sep 2020 09:05:45 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>jaldepiqui</dc:creator>
		<guid>https://www.meneame.net/story/desensamblado-microcodigo-intel-8086-eng/c024#c-24</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[<p><a class="tooltip c:3374686-3" href="https://www.meneame.net/story/desensamblado-microcodigo-intel-8086-eng/c03#c-3" rel="nofollow">#3</a> Según acabo de ver, el Threadripper 4990X parece tener 39.500 millones:<br />
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<a href="https://gadgetversus.com/processor/amd-ryzen-threadripper-4990x-specs/" title="gadgetversus.com/processor/amd-ryzen-threadripper-4990x-specs/" rel="nofollow">gadgetversus.com/processor/amd-ryzen-threadripper-4990x-specs/</a></p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>jaldepiqui</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<meneame:comment_id>30856753</meneame:comment_id>
		<meneame:link_id>3374686</meneame:link_id>
		<meneame:order>23</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>tokzilla</meneame:user>
		<meneame:votes>0</meneame:votes>
		<meneame:karma>6</meneame:karma>
		<meneame:url>https://www.meneame.net/story/desensamblado-microcodigo-intel-8086-eng</meneame:url>
		<title>#23 Desensamblado del microcódigo del Intel 8086 [ENG]</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/desensamblado-microcodigo-intel-8086-eng/c023#c-23</link>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Sep 2020 09:03:10 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>tokzilla</dc:creator>
		<guid>https://www.meneame.net/story/desensamblado-microcodigo-intel-8086-eng/c023#c-23</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[<p><a class="tooltip c:3374686-22" href="https://www.meneame.net/story/desensamblado-microcodigo-intel-8086-eng/c022#c-22" rel="nofollow">#22</a> Lo sé pero solo los fabrica Apple y ni siquiera dan soporte para otros SO. Por eso digo que son muy cerrados.</p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>tokzilla</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<meneame:comment_id>30856250</meneame:comment_id>
		<meneame:link_id>3374686</meneame:link_id>
		<meneame:order>22</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>piquillo</meneame:user>
		<meneame:votes>0</meneame:votes>
		<meneame:karma>8</meneame:karma>
		<meneame:url>https://www.meneame.net/story/desensamblado-microcodigo-intel-8086-eng</meneame:url>
		<title>#22 Desensamblado del microcódigo del Intel 8086 [ENG]</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/desensamblado-microcodigo-intel-8086-eng/c022#c-22</link>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Sep 2020 07:57:39 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>piquillo</dc:creator>
		<guid>https://www.meneame.net/story/desensamblado-microcodigo-intel-8086-eng/c022#c-22</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[<p><a class="tooltip c:3374686-21" href="https://www.meneame.net/story/desensamblado-microcodigo-intel-8086-eng/c021#c-21" rel="nofollow">#21</a> Los de Apple son ARM.</p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>piquillo</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<meneame:comment_id>30856195</meneame:comment_id>
		<meneame:link_id>3374686</meneame:link_id>
		<meneame:order>21</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>tokzilla</meneame:user>
		<meneame:votes>0</meneame:votes>
		<meneame:karma>6</meneame:karma>
		<meneame:url>https://www.meneame.net/story/desensamblado-microcodigo-intel-8086-eng</meneame:url>
		<title>#21 Desensamblado del microcódigo del Intel 8086 [ENG]</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/desensamblado-microcodigo-intel-8086-eng/c021#c-21</link>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Sep 2020 07:50:47 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>tokzilla</dc:creator>
		<guid>https://www.meneame.net/story/desensamblado-microcodigo-intel-8086-eng/c021#c-21</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[<p><a class="tooltip c:3374686-19" href="https://www.meneame.net/story/desensamblado-microcodigo-intel-8086-eng/c019#c-19" rel="nofollow">#19</a> Pierdes mucho rendimiento, los Axx de Apple parecen los únicos que compiten de tú a tú con Intel/AMD</p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>tokzilla</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<meneame:comment_id>30856186</meneame:comment_id>
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		<meneame:user>exeware</meneame:user>
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		<meneame:karma>10</meneame:karma>
		<meneame:url>https://www.meneame.net/story/desensamblado-microcodigo-intel-8086-eng</meneame:url>
		<title>#20 Desensamblado del microcódigo del Intel 8086 [ENG]</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/desensamblado-microcodigo-intel-8086-eng/c020#c-20</link>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Sep 2020 07:48:52 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>exeware</dc:creator>
		<guid>https://www.meneame.net/story/desensamblado-microcodigo-intel-8086-eng/c020#c-20</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[<p><a class="tooltip c:3374686-9" href="https://www.meneame.net/story/desensamblado-microcodigo-intel-8086-eng/c09#c-9" rel="nofollow">#9</a> creo que te entiendo, he visto burradas pero por otro lado creo que con los procesadores actuales, el precio y disponibilidad de ram actual, cuando resulta que por mal q lo hagas sigues teniendo procesador de mas y memoria de mas.... Para que volverse locos controlando los recursos... Yo me he visto peleando sobre usar enteros de 8 16 o 32 bits... en una aplicación que total... Se ejecuta una vez cada... El impacto de mi optimizacion se mide en millonesima de segundo y yo rompiendome los eggs? Non sense</p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>exeware</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<meneame:comment_id>30856178</meneame:comment_id>
		<meneame:link_id>3374686</meneame:link_id>
		<meneame:order>19</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>piquillo</meneame:user>
		<meneame:votes>0</meneame:votes>
		<meneame:karma>8</meneame:karma>
		<meneame:url>https://www.meneame.net/story/desensamblado-microcodigo-intel-8086-eng</meneame:url>
		<title>#19 Desensamblado del microcódigo del Intel 8086 [ENG]</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/desensamblado-microcodigo-intel-8086-eng/c019#c-19</link>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Sep 2020 07:47:57 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>piquillo</dc:creator>
		<guid>https://www.meneame.net/story/desensamblado-microcodigo-intel-8086-eng/c019#c-19</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[<p><a class="tooltip c:3374686-18" href="https://www.meneame.net/story/desensamblado-microcodigo-intel-8086-eng/c018#c-18" rel="nofollow">#18</a> No es la unica alternativa. Empiezan a salir ahora ordenadores con procesadores ARM.</p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>piquillo</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<meneame:comment_id>30856069</meneame:comment_id>
		<meneame:link_id>3374686</meneame:link_id>
		<meneame:order>18</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>tokzilla</meneame:user>
		<meneame:votes>0</meneame:votes>
		<meneame:karma>6</meneame:karma>
		<meneame:url>https://www.meneame.net/story/desensamblado-microcodigo-intel-8086-eng</meneame:url>
		<title>#18 Desensamblado del microcódigo del Intel 8086 [ENG]</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/desensamblado-microcodigo-intel-8086-eng/c018#c-18</link>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Sep 2020 07:30:28 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>tokzilla</dc:creator>
		<guid>https://www.meneame.net/story/desensamblado-microcodigo-intel-8086-eng/c018#c-18</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[<p><a class="tooltip c:3374686-4" href="https://www.meneame.net/story/desensamblado-microcodigo-intel-8086-eng/c04#c-4" rel="nofollow">#4</a> Tengo sentimientos encontrados con que la alternativa a los x86 esté a la vuelta de la esquina pero sea un ecosistema tan cerrado como como los Mac.</p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>tokzilla</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<meneame:comment_id>30855900</meneame:comment_id>
		<meneame:link_id>3374686</meneame:link_id>
		<meneame:order>17</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>six.pack</meneame:user>
		<meneame:votes>2</meneame:votes>
		<meneame:karma>21</meneame:karma>
		<meneame:url>https://www.meneame.net/story/desensamblado-microcodigo-intel-8086-eng</meneame:url>
		<title>#17 Desensamblado del microcódigo del Intel 8086 [ENG]</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/desensamblado-microcodigo-intel-8086-eng/c017#c-17</link>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Sep 2020 06:47:31 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>six.pack</dc:creator>
		<guid>https://www.meneame.net/story/desensamblado-microcodigo-intel-8086-eng/c017#c-17</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[<p><a class="tooltip c:3374686-15" href="https://www.meneame.net/story/desensamblado-microcodigo-intel-8086-eng/c015#c-15" rel="nofollow">#15</a> Efectivamente tal como dice <a class="tooltip c:3374686-16" href="https://www.meneame.net/story/desensamblado-microcodigo-intel-8086-eng/c016#c-16" rel="nofollow">#16</a> en ese caso me refiero al nivel de conocimientos  que demuestra el autor y la cantidad de trabajo que supone hacer todo esto. Que a lo mejor el tío es diseñador de circuitos integrados y para él esto es un juego de niños  jeje, pero aun así me parece impresionante.</p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>six.pack</strong></p>]]></description>
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	<item>
		<meneame:comment_id>30855756</meneame:comment_id>
		<meneame:link_id>3374686</meneame:link_id>
		<meneame:order>16</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>piquillo</meneame:user>
		<meneame:votes>2</meneame:votes>
		<meneame:karma>21</meneame:karma>
		<meneame:url>https://www.meneame.net/story/desensamblado-microcodigo-intel-8086-eng</meneame:url>
		<title>#16 Desensamblado del microcódigo del Intel 8086 [ENG]</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/desensamblado-microcodigo-intel-8086-eng/c016#c-16</link>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Sep 2020 06:10:52 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>piquillo</dc:creator>
		<guid>https://www.meneame.net/story/desensamblado-microcodigo-intel-8086-eng/c016#c-16</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[<p><a class="tooltip c:3374686-15" href="https://www.meneame.net/story/desensamblado-microcodigo-intel-8086-eng/c015#c-15" rel="nofollow">#15</a> Creo que <a class="tooltip c:3374686-10" href="https://www.meneame.net/story/desensamblado-microcodigo-intel-8086-eng/c010#c-10" rel="nofollow">#10</a> se refiere a que el autor descifre las instrucciones viendo una fotografia de alta resolucion del procesador.</p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>piquillo</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<meneame:comment_id>30855685</meneame:comment_id>
		<meneame:link_id>3374686</meneame:link_id>
		<meneame:order>15</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>ColaKO</meneame:user>
		<meneame:votes>1</meneame:votes>
		<meneame:karma>16</meneame:karma>
		<meneame:url>https://www.meneame.net/story/desensamblado-microcodigo-intel-8086-eng</meneame:url>
		<title>#15 Desensamblado del microcódigo del Intel 8086 [ENG]</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/desensamblado-microcodigo-intel-8086-eng/c015#c-15</link>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Sep 2020 05:38:46 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>ColaKO</dc:creator>
		<guid>https://www.meneame.net/story/desensamblado-microcodigo-intel-8086-eng/c015#c-15</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[<p><a class="tooltip c:3374686-10" href="https://www.meneame.net/story/desensamblado-microcodigo-intel-8086-eng/c010#c-10" rel="nofollow">#10</a> a ver, es brutal, pero no es que se diseñe cada uno a mano. Hay un million de transistores de un mismo tipo, y el diseño por ordenador del chip te ayuda a colocarlos en su sitio.</p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>ColaKO</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<meneame:comment_id>30855667</meneame:comment_id>
		<meneame:link_id>3374686</meneame:link_id>
		<meneame:order>14</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>piquillo</meneame:user>
		<meneame:votes>1</meneame:votes>
		<meneame:karma>14</meneame:karma>
		<meneame:url>https://www.meneame.net/story/desensamblado-microcodigo-intel-8086-eng</meneame:url>
		<title>#14 Desensamblado del microcódigo del Intel 8086 [ENG]</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/desensamblado-microcodigo-intel-8086-eng/c014#c-14</link>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Sep 2020 05:31:20 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>piquillo</dc:creator>
		<guid>https://www.meneame.net/story/desensamblado-microcodigo-intel-8086-eng/c014#c-14</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[<p><a class="tooltip c:3374686-10" href="https://www.meneame.net/story/desensamblado-microcodigo-intel-8086-eng/c010#c-10" rel="nofollow">#10</a> Si. La verdad es que es espectacular.</p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>piquillo</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<meneame:comment_id>30855655</meneame:comment_id>
		<meneame:link_id>3374686</meneame:link_id>
		<meneame:order>13</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>--199805--</meneame:user>
		<meneame:votes>1</meneame:votes>
		<meneame:karma>27</meneame:karma>
		<meneame:url>https://www.meneame.net/story/desensamblado-microcodigo-intel-8086-eng</meneame:url>
		<title>#13 Desensamblado del microcódigo del Intel 8086 [ENG]</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/desensamblado-microcodigo-intel-8086-eng/c013#c-13</link>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Sep 2020 05:21:50 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>--199805--</dc:creator>
		<guid>https://www.meneame.net/story/desensamblado-microcodigo-intel-8086-eng/c013#c-13</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[<p><a class="tooltip c:3374686-12" href="https://www.meneame.net/story/desensamblado-microcodigo-intel-8086-eng/c012#c-12" rel="nofollow">#12</a> Disculpa, por dedazo me he equivocado con un negativo y hasta te he reportado en vez de a <a class="tooltip c:3374686-11" href="https://www.meneame.net/story/desensamblado-microcodigo-intel-8086-eng/c011#c-11" rel="nofollow">#11</a> (<a class='tooltip u:admin' href='/user/admin'>@admin</a> ruego lo tengáis en cuenta)</p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>--199805--</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<meneame:comment_id>30855612</meneame:comment_id>
		<meneame:link_id>3374686</meneame:link_id>
		<meneame:order>12</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>--13404--</meneame:user>
		<meneame:votes>3</meneame:votes>
		<meneame:karma>10</meneame:karma>
		<meneame:url>https://www.meneame.net/story/desensamblado-microcodigo-intel-8086-eng</meneame:url>
		<title>#12 Desensamblado del microcódigo del Intel 8086 [ENG]</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/desensamblado-microcodigo-intel-8086-eng/c012#c-12</link>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Sep 2020 04:32:51 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>--13404--</dc:creator>
		<guid>https://www.meneame.net/story/desensamblado-microcodigo-intel-8086-eng/c012#c-12</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[<p>Impresionantes las fotos de aquí <a href="https://righto.com/2020/06/a-look-at-die-of-8086-processor.html?m=1" title="righto.com/2020/06/a-look-at-die-of-8086-processor.html?m=1" rel="nofollow">righto.com/2020/06/a-look-at-die-of-8086-processor.html?m=1</a><br />
Hoy en día puede no ser nada por características si se compara con lo que contienen las nuevas nVidia RTX 3000 pero incluso a mi me sorprende ese Inter de hace 50 años en 2020 al ver fotos</p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>--13404--</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<meneame:comment_id>30855588</meneame:comment_id>
		<meneame:link_id>3374686</meneame:link_id>
		<meneame:order>11</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>--661158--</meneame:user>
		<meneame:votes>11</meneame:votes>
		<meneame:karma>-57</meneame:karma>
		<meneame:url>https://www.meneame.net/story/desensamblado-microcodigo-intel-8086-eng</meneame:url>
		<title>#11 Desensamblado del microcódigo del Intel 8086 [ENG]</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/desensamblado-microcodigo-intel-8086-eng/c011#c-11</link>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Sep 2020 03:53:50 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>--661158--</dc:creator>
		<guid>https://www.meneame.net/story/desensamblado-microcodigo-intel-8086-eng/c011#c-11</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[<p>[Usuario deshabilitado]</p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>--661158--</strong></p>]]></description>
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	<item>
		<meneame:comment_id>30855398</meneame:comment_id>
		<meneame:link_id>3374686</meneame:link_id>
		<meneame:order>10</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>six.pack</meneame:user>
		<meneame:votes>1</meneame:votes>
		<meneame:karma>14</meneame:karma>
		<meneame:url>https://www.meneame.net/story/desensamblado-microcodigo-intel-8086-eng</meneame:url>
		<title>#10 Desensamblado del microcódigo del Intel 8086 [ENG]</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/desensamblado-microcodigo-intel-8086-eng/c010#c-10</link>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Sep 2020 00:47:48 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>six.pack</dc:creator>
		<guid>https://www.meneame.net/story/desensamblado-microcodigo-intel-8086-eng/c010#c-10</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[<p><a class="tooltip c:3374686-3" href="https://www.meneame.net/story/desensamblado-microcodigo-intel-8086-eng/c03#c-3" rel="nofollow">#3</a> Es absolutamente brutal...</p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>six.pack</strong></p>]]></description>
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	<item>
		<meneame:comment_id>30855272</meneame:comment_id>
		<meneame:link_id>3374686</meneame:link_id>
		<meneame:order>9</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>--44189--</meneame:user>
		<meneame:votes>3</meneame:votes>
		<meneame:karma>55</meneame:karma>
		<meneame:url>https://www.meneame.net/story/desensamblado-microcodigo-intel-8086-eng</meneame:url>
		<title>#9 Desensamblado del microcódigo del Intel 8086 [ENG]</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/desensamblado-microcodigo-intel-8086-eng/c09#c-9</link>
		<pubDate>Sat, 05 Sep 2020 23:56:37 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>--44189--</dc:creator>
		<guid>https://www.meneame.net/story/desensamblado-microcodigo-intel-8086-eng/c09#c-9</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[<p><a class="tooltip c:3374686-1" href="https://www.meneame.net/story/desensamblado-microcodigo-intel-8086-eng/c01#c-1" rel="nofollow">#1</a> Justo, estoy harto de ver programadores “high level” de ahora que comen memoria y recursos a lo loco como si no hubiera un mañana</p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>--44189--</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<meneame:comment_id>30855179</meneame:comment_id>
		<meneame:link_id>3374686</meneame:link_id>
		<meneame:order>8</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>paolagado</meneame:user>
		<meneame:votes>6</meneame:votes>
		<meneame:karma>56</meneame:karma>
		<meneame:url>https://www.meneame.net/story/desensamblado-microcodigo-intel-8086-eng</meneame:url>
		<title>#8 Desensamblado del microcódigo del Intel 8086 [ENG]</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/desensamblado-microcodigo-intel-8086-eng/c08#c-8</link>
		<pubDate>Sat, 05 Sep 2020 23:30:48 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>paolagado</dc:creator>
		<guid>https://www.meneame.net/story/desensamblado-microcodigo-intel-8086-eng/c08#c-8</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[<p>Uno somos, y en cero nos convertiremos.</p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>paolagado</strong></p>]]></description>
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	<item>
		<meneame:comment_id>30855113</meneame:comment_id>
		<meneame:link_id>3374686</meneame:link_id>
		<meneame:order>7</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>arivero</meneame:user>
		<meneame:votes>2</meneame:votes>
		<meneame:karma>31</meneame:karma>
		<meneame:url>https://www.meneame.net/story/desensamblado-microcodigo-intel-8086-eng</meneame:url>
		<title>#7 Desensamblado del microcódigo del Intel 8086 [ENG]</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/desensamblado-microcodigo-intel-8086-eng/c07#c-7</link>
		<pubDate>Sat, 05 Sep 2020 23:11:57 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>arivero</dc:creator>
		<guid>https://www.meneame.net/story/desensamblado-microcodigo-intel-8086-eng/c07#c-7</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[<p><a class="tooltip c:3374686-1" href="https://www.meneame.net/story/desensamblado-microcodigo-intel-8086-eng/c01#c-1" rel="nofollow">#1</a> yo flipo de que haya tan pocas. <br />
<br />
Luego los seminarios de emprendedores se llenan.</p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>arivero</strong></p>]]></description>
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	<item>
		<meneame:comment_id>30855101</meneame:comment_id>
		<meneame:link_id>3374686</meneame:link_id>
		<meneame:order>6</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>Ehorus</meneame:user>
		<meneame:votes>3</meneame:votes>
		<meneame:karma>20</meneame:karma>
		<meneame:url>https://www.meneame.net/story/desensamblado-microcodigo-intel-8086-eng</meneame:url>
		<title>#6 Desensamblado del microcódigo del Intel 8086 [ENG]</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/desensamblado-microcodigo-intel-8086-eng/c06#c-6</link>
		<pubDate>Sat, 05 Sep 2020 23:09:48 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Ehorus</dc:creator>
		<guid>https://www.meneame.net/story/desensamblado-microcodigo-intel-8086-eng/c06#c-6</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[<p>Ver <i>especialmente</i> <b>DS=ES=SS=FLAGS=PC=0</b> me ha traído recuerdos muuuuy desagradable.</p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>Ehorus</strong></p>]]></description>
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	<item>
		<meneame:comment_id>30855100</meneame:comment_id>
		<meneame:link_id>3374686</meneame:link_id>
		<meneame:order>5</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>piquillo</meneame:user>
		<meneame:votes>2</meneame:votes>
		<meneame:karma>24</meneame:karma>
		<meneame:url>https://www.meneame.net/story/desensamblado-microcodigo-intel-8086-eng</meneame:url>
		<title>#5 Desensamblado del microcódigo del Intel 8086 [ENG]</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/desensamblado-microcodigo-intel-8086-eng/c05#c-5</link>
		<pubDate>Sat, 05 Sep 2020 23:09:35 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>piquillo</dc:creator>
		<guid>https://www.meneame.net/story/desensamblado-microcodigo-intel-8086-eng/c05#c-5</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[<p><a class="tooltip c:3374686-4" href="https://www.meneame.net/story/desensamblado-microcodigo-intel-8086-eng/c04#c-4" rel="nofollow">#4</a> Efectivamente. El problema de Spectre viene de la prediccion de instrucciones que se aplico en este procesador por primera vez y se ha mantenido ahi.<br />
<br />
<a href="https://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spectre_(vulnerabilidad)" title="es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spectre_(vulnerabilidad)" rel="nofollow">es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spectre_(vulnerabilidad)</a></p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>piquillo</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<meneame:comment_id>30855087</meneame:comment_id>
		<meneame:link_id>3374686</meneame:link_id>
		<meneame:order>4</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>--159263--</meneame:user>
		<meneame:votes>4</meneame:votes>
		<meneame:karma>47</meneame:karma>
		<meneame:url>https://www.meneame.net/story/desensamblado-microcodigo-intel-8086-eng</meneame:url>
		<title>#4 Desensamblado del microcódigo del Intel 8086 [ENG]</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/desensamblado-microcodigo-intel-8086-eng/c04#c-4</link>
		<pubDate>Sat, 05 Sep 2020 23:06:35 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>--159263--</dc:creator>
		<guid>https://www.meneame.net/story/desensamblado-microcodigo-intel-8086-eng/c04#c-4</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[<p>8086: el origen de la catástrofe<br />
<br />
Quién iba a pensar que tantas décadas después seguiríamos sufriendo las consecuencias de esa mierda.</p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>--159263--</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<meneame:comment_id>30855056</meneame:comment_id>
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		<meneame:order>3</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>piquillo</meneame:user>
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		<meneame:url>https://www.meneame.net/story/desensamblado-microcodigo-intel-8086-eng</meneame:url>
		<title>#3 Desensamblado del microcódigo del Intel 8086 [ENG]</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/desensamblado-microcodigo-intel-8086-eng/c03#c-3</link>
		<pubDate>Sat, 05 Sep 2020 23:01:02 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>piquillo</dc:creator>
		<guid>https://www.meneame.net/story/desensamblado-microcodigo-intel-8086-eng/c03#c-3</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[<p><a class="tooltip c:3374686-2" href="https://www.meneame.net/story/desensamblado-microcodigo-intel-8086-eng/c02#c-2" rel="nofollow">#2</a> Lee el microcodigo del chip directamente viendo las intersecciones en las comunicaciones de los transistores del microprocesador y asi calcula las instrucciones en ensamblador. <br />
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De hecho ha leido las instrucciones ocultas del procesador no documentadas.<br />
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Comentar como anecdota que un procesador 8086 tiene unos 20.000 transistores, un procesador actual tiene unos 1.000 millones.</p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>piquillo</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<meneame:comment_id>30854773</meneame:comment_id>
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		<meneame:order>2</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>Jakeukalane</meneame:user>
		<meneame:votes>1</meneame:votes>
		<meneame:karma>22</meneame:karma>
		<meneame:url>https://www.meneame.net/story/desensamblado-microcodigo-intel-8086-eng</meneame:url>
		<title>#2 Desensamblado del microcódigo del Intel 8086 [ENG]</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/desensamblado-microcodigo-intel-8086-eng/c02#c-2</link>
		<pubDate>Sat, 05 Sep 2020 22:18:16 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Jakeukalane</dc:creator>
		<guid>https://www.meneame.net/story/desensamblado-microcodigo-intel-8086-eng/c02#c-2</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[<p>Esto es más difícil de entender que los artículos de Francis...</p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>Jakeukalane</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<meneame:comment_id>30854730</meneame:comment_id>
		<meneame:link_id>3374686</meneame:link_id>
		<meneame:order>1</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>--19782--</meneame:user>
		<meneame:votes>2</meneame:votes>
		<meneame:karma>39</meneame:karma>
		<meneame:url>https://www.meneame.net/story/desensamblado-microcodigo-intel-8086-eng</meneame:url>
		<title>#1 Desensamblado del microcódigo del Intel 8086 [ENG]</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/desensamblado-microcodigo-intel-8086-eng/c01#c-1</link>
		<pubDate>Sat, 05 Sep 2020 22:11:15 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>--19782--</dc:creator>
		<guid>https://www.meneame.net/story/desensamblado-microcodigo-intel-8086-eng/c01#c-1</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[<p>Yo lo flipo, por personas como esta el mundo avanza</p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>--19782--</strong></p>]]></description>
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