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		<meneame:user>uruK</meneame:user>
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		<title>#17 Pignora imperii, los 7 objetos que garantizaban el dominio de Roma</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/pignora-imperii-7-objetos-garantizaban-dominio-roma/c017#c-17</link>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Jul 2020 08:18:21 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>uruK</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[<p><a class="tooltip c:3354301-16" href="https://www.meneame.net/story/pignora-imperii-7-objetos-garantizaban-dominio-roma/c016#c-16" rel="nofollow">#16</a>&#194;200 años no son nada <img data-src="https://cdn.mnmstatic.net/v_149/img/menemojis/36/grin.png" alt=":-D" title=":-D" width="18" height="18" src="https://cdn.mnmstatic.net/v_149/img/g.gif" class="emoji lazy" /></p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>uruK</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<meneame:comment_id>30513777</meneame:comment_id>
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		<meneame:order>16</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>Varlak</meneame:user>
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		<title>#16 Pignora imperii, los 7 objetos que garantizaban el dominio de Roma</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/pignora-imperii-7-objetos-garantizaban-dominio-roma/c016#c-16</link>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Jul 2020 07:24:32 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Varlak</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[<p><a class="tooltip c:3354301-15" href="https://www.meneame.net/story/pignora-imperii-7-objetos-garantizaban-dominio-roma/c015#c-15" rel="nofollow">#15</a> &#34;&#34;&#34;al poco&#34;&#34;&#34;</p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>Varlak</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<meneame:comment_id>30510532</meneame:comment_id>
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		<meneame:order>15</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>uruK</meneame:user>
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		<meneame:karma>6</meneame:karma>
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		<title>#15 Pignora imperii, los 7 objetos que garantizaban el dominio de Roma</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/pignora-imperii-7-objetos-garantizaban-dominio-roma/c015#c-15</link>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Jul 2020 18:36:32 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>uruK</dc:creator>
		<guid>https://www.meneame.net/story/pignora-imperii-7-objetos-garantizaban-dominio-roma/c015#c-15</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[<p><a class="tooltip c:3354301-14" href="https://www.meneame.net/story/pignora-imperii-7-objetos-garantizaban-dominio-roma/c014#c-14" rel="nofollow">#14</a> Los objetos garantizaban el dominio de Roma, al poco de hacerse cristianos se vinieron abajo ¿casualidad?</p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>uruK</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<meneame:comment_id>30510175</meneame:comment_id>
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		<meneame:order>14</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>montag</meneame:user>
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		<title>#14 Pignora imperii, los 7 objetos que garantizaban el dominio de Roma</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/pignora-imperii-7-objetos-garantizaban-dominio-roma/c014#c-14</link>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Jul 2020 17:43:31 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>montag</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[<p>Spoiler: Al final se hacen cristianos y dejan de funcionar. <img data-src="https://cdn.mnmstatic.net/v_149/img/menemojis/36/troll.png" alt=":troll:" title=":troll:" width="18" height="18" src="https://cdn.mnmstatic.net/v_149/img/g.gif" class="emoji lazy" /></p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>montag</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<meneame:comment_id>30509574</meneame:comment_id>
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		<meneame:order>13</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>soberao</meneame:user>
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		<title>#13 Pignora imperii, los 7 objetos que garantizaban el dominio de Roma</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/pignora-imperii-7-objetos-garantizaban-dominio-roma/c013#c-13</link>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Jul 2020 16:37:07 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>soberao</dc:creator>
		<guid>https://www.meneame.net/story/pignora-imperii-7-objetos-garantizaban-dominio-roma/c013#c-13</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[<p><a class="tooltip c:3354301-5" href="https://www.meneame.net/story/pignora-imperii-7-objetos-garantizaban-dominio-roma/c05#c-5" rel="nofollow">#5</a> Desde que aprendimos a controlar la imaginación, el mundo se llenó de dioses, magia y distintos objetos de poder, que no tenían más valor que el que nuestra imaginación puede darles y nuestra cultura transmitirles.</p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>soberao</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<meneame:comment_id>30509552</meneame:comment_id>
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		<meneame:order>12</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>orestes</meneame:user>
		<meneame:votes>0</meneame:votes>
		<meneame:karma>6</meneame:karma>
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		<title>#12 Pignora imperii, los 7 objetos que garantizaban el dominio de Roma</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/pignora-imperii-7-objetos-garantizaban-dominio-roma/c012#c-12</link>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Jul 2020 16:33:52 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>orestes</dc:creator>
		<guid>https://www.meneame.net/story/pignora-imperii-7-objetos-garantizaban-dominio-roma/c012#c-12</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[<p>Que poco respeto <img data-src="https://cdn.mnmstatic.net/v_149/img/menemojis/36/angry.png" alt="&#62;&#58;-(" title="&#62;&#58;-(" width="18" height="18" src="https://cdn.mnmstatic.net/v_149/img/g.gif" class="emoji lazy" /> <br />
<img data-src="https://cdn.mnmstatic.net/v_149/img/menemojis/36/tongue.png" alt=":-P" title=":-P" width="18" height="18" src="https://cdn.mnmstatic.net/v_149/img/g.gif" class="emoji lazy" /></p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>orestes</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<meneame:comment_id>30509460</meneame:comment_id>
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		<meneame:order>11</meneame:order>
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		<title>#11 Pignora imperii, los 7 objetos que garantizaban el dominio de Roma</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/pignora-imperii-7-objetos-garantizaban-dominio-roma/c011#c-11</link>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Jul 2020 16:23:45 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>--555981--</dc:creator>
		<guid>https://www.meneame.net/story/pignora-imperii-7-objetos-garantizaban-dominio-roma/c011#c-11</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[<p>Las bolas de drac romanas</p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>--555981--</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<meneame:comment_id>30509301</meneame:comment_id>
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		<meneame:order>10</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>themarquesito</meneame:user>
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		<title>#10 Pignora imperii, los 7 objetos que garantizaban el dominio de Roma</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/pignora-imperii-7-objetos-garantizaban-dominio-roma/c010#c-10</link>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Jul 2020 16:08:01 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>themarquesito</dc:creator>
		<guid>https://www.meneame.net/story/pignora-imperii-7-objetos-garantizaban-dominio-roma/c010#c-10</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[<p><a class="tooltip c:3354301-8" href="https://www.meneame.net/story/pignora-imperii-7-objetos-garantizaban-dominio-roma/c08#c-8" rel="nofollow">#8</a> Bueno, pues aquí dejo la otra, acuñada por Antonino Pío.</p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>themarquesito</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<meneame:comment_id>30509234</meneame:comment_id>
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		<meneame:order>9</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>pedrobz</meneame:user>
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		<meneame:karma>25</meneame:karma>
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		<title>#9 Pignora imperii, los 7 objetos que garantizaban el dominio de Roma</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/pignora-imperii-7-objetos-garantizaban-dominio-roma/c09#c-9</link>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Jul 2020 15:57:08 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>pedrobz</dc:creator>
		<guid>https://www.meneame.net/story/pignora-imperii-7-objetos-garantizaban-dominio-roma/c09#c-9</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[<p><a class="tooltip c:3354301-7" href="https://www.meneame.net/story/pignora-imperii-7-objetos-garantizaban-dominio-roma/c07#c-7" rel="nofollow">#7</a> Rima en latín culto <img data-src="https://cdn.mnmstatic.net/v_149/img/menemojis/36/troll.png" alt=":troll:" title=":troll:" width="18" height="18" src="https://cdn.mnmstatic.net/v_149/img/g.gif" class="emoji lazy" /></p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>pedrobz</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<meneame:comment_id>30509229</meneame:comment_id>
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		<meneame:order>8</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>AubreyDG</meneame:user>
		<meneame:votes>0</meneame:votes>
		<meneame:karma>8</meneame:karma>
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		<title>#8 Pignora imperii, los 7 objetos que garantizaban el dominio de Roma</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/pignora-imperii-7-objetos-garantizaban-dominio-roma/c08#c-8</link>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Jul 2020 15:56:56 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>AubreyDG</dc:creator>
		<guid>https://www.meneame.net/story/pignora-imperii-7-objetos-garantizaban-dominio-roma/c08#c-8</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[<p><a class="tooltip c:3354301-3" href="https://www.meneame.net/story/pignora-imperii-7-objetos-garantizaban-dominio-roma/c03#c-3" rel="nofollow">#3</a> Esa misma moneda viene en el propio artículo.</p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>AubreyDG</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<meneame:comment_id>30509227</meneame:comment_id>
		<meneame:link_id>3354301</meneame:link_id>
		<meneame:order>7</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>AubreyDG</meneame:user>
		<meneame:votes>0</meneame:votes>
		<meneame:karma>8</meneame:karma>
		<meneame:url>https://www.meneame.net/story/pignora-imperii-7-objetos-garantizaban-dominio-roma</meneame:url>
		<title>#7 Pignora imperii, los 7 objetos que garantizaban el dominio de Roma</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/pignora-imperii-7-objetos-garantizaban-dominio-roma/c07#c-7</link>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Jul 2020 15:56:15 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>AubreyDG</dc:creator>
		<guid>https://www.meneame.net/story/pignora-imperii-7-objetos-garantizaban-dominio-roma/c07#c-7</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[<p><a class="tooltip c:3354301-1" href="https://www.meneame.net/story/pignora-imperii-7-objetos-garantizaban-dominio-roma/c01#c-1" rel="nofollow">#1</a> Me vas a perdonar, pero esperaba que rimase.</p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>AubreyDG</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<meneame:comment_id>30508728</meneame:comment_id>
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		<meneame:order>6</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>--38321--</meneame:user>
		<meneame:votes>5</meneame:votes>
		<meneame:karma>59</meneame:karma>
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		<title>#6 Pignora imperii, los 7 objetos que garantizaban el dominio de Roma</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/pignora-imperii-7-objetos-garantizaban-dominio-roma/c06#c-6</link>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Jul 2020 14:58:57 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>--38321--</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[<p>Es curioso, pero mirando la tradición celta, me recuerda a los Trece Tesoros de la Isla de Gran Bretaña (que obviamente, de aquella no tenía el nombre <i>afrancesado </i>de Gran Bretaña) o a los cuatro Tesoros de Irlanda (o de algo parecido)<br />
<br />
<a href="https://es.qwe.wiki/wiki/Thirteen_Treasures_of_the_Island_of_Britain" title="es.qwe.wiki/wiki/Thirteen_Treasures_of_the_Island_of_Britain" rel="nofollow">es.qwe.wiki/wiki/Thirteen_Treasures_of_the_Island_of_Britain</a><br />
<br />
<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Four_Treasures_of_the_Tuatha_Dé_Danann" title="en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Four_Treasures_of_the_Tuatha_Dé_Danann" rel="nofollow">en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Four_Treasures_of_the_Tuatha_Dé_Danann</a></p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>--38321--</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<meneame:comment_id>30508708</meneame:comment_id>
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		<meneame:order>5</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>--172335--</meneame:user>
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		<meneame:karma>59</meneame:karma>
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		<title>#5 Pignora imperii, los 7 objetos que garantizaban el dominio de Roma</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/pignora-imperii-7-objetos-garantizaban-dominio-roma/c05#c-5</link>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Jul 2020 14:57:10 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>--172335--</dc:creator>
		<guid>https://www.meneame.net/story/pignora-imperii-7-objetos-garantizaban-dominio-roma/c05#c-5</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[<p>Parece que el gusto por las reliquias sagradas no lo inventaron los cristianos. Aunque fueran tan falsas como las cenizas de un héroe de troya, un trozo de madera de la cruz de Jesús o un pelo de Mahoma como los que hay en Estambul. Muy interesante el artículo. Al final aclara que solo 4 de ellas conocemos que existieron de verdad. Es importante ya que algunas se refieren a héroes mitológicos que puede que ni existieran.</p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>--172335--</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<meneame:comment_id>30508626</meneame:comment_id>
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		<meneame:karma>6</meneame:karma>
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		<title>#4 Pignora imperii, los 7 objetos que garantizaban el dominio de Roma</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Jul 2020 14:49:29 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>--578270--</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[<p>[Usuario deshabilitado]</p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>--578270--</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<meneame:order>3</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>themarquesito</meneame:user>
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		<meneame:karma>152</meneame:karma>
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		<title>#3 Pignora imperii, los 7 objetos que garantizaban el dominio de Roma</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/pignora-imperii-7-objetos-garantizaban-dominio-roma/c03#c-3</link>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Jul 2020 08:32:03 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>themarquesito</dc:creator>
		<guid>https://www.meneame.net/story/pignora-imperii-7-objetos-garantizaban-dominio-roma/c03#c-3</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[<p>De estos Pignora imperii, lo que más me llama la atención son los ancilia, unos escudos antiquísimos. A diferencia de la mayoría de los pignora, sí que hay representación de los ancilia, al menos en dos acuñaciones numismáticas que yo conozca: una en tiempos de César Octaviano, y otra en tiempos de Antonino Pío. Quizás los ancilia se parezcan más a lo que figura en la moneda augustea, que son unos escudos bilobulados con un refuerzo central alargado. <br />
Este tipo de escudo, al menos en su forma, se puede apreciar también en alguno de los frescos de Cnossos, aunque en los frescos cretenses se vean escudos claramente de piel animal y no de bronce.</p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>themarquesito</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<meneame:comment_id>30496332</meneame:comment_id>
		<meneame:link_id>3354301</meneame:link_id>
		<meneame:order>2</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>vet</meneame:user>
		<meneame:votes>4</meneame:votes>
		<meneame:karma>32</meneame:karma>
		<meneame:url>https://www.meneame.net/story/pignora-imperii-7-objetos-garantizaban-dominio-roma</meneame:url>
		<title>#2 Pignora imperii, los 7 objetos que garantizaban el dominio de Roma</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/pignora-imperii-7-objetos-garantizaban-dominio-roma/c02#c-2</link>
		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Jul 2020 10:46:18 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>vet</dc:creator>
		<guid>https://www.meneame.net/story/pignora-imperii-7-objetos-garantizaban-dominio-roma/c02#c-2</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[<p>Que no los reúna Thanos</p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>vet</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<meneame:comment_id>30495237</meneame:comment_id>
		<meneame:link_id>3354301</meneame:link_id>
		<meneame:order>1</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>ClaraBernardo</meneame:user>
		<meneame:votes>7</meneame:votes>
		<meneame:karma>86</meneame:karma>
		<meneame:url>https://www.meneame.net/story/pignora-imperii-7-objetos-garantizaban-dominio-roma</meneame:url>
		<title>#1 Pignora imperii, los 7 objetos que garantizaban el dominio de Roma</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/pignora-imperii-7-objetos-garantizaban-dominio-roma/c01#c-1</link>
		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Jul 2020 08:46:25 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>ClaraBernardo</dc:creator>
		<guid>https://www.meneame.net/story/pignora-imperii-7-objetos-garantizaban-dominio-roma/c01#c-1</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[<p>Siete fueron los objetos que aseguraban el dominio romano: la piedra de la madre de los dioses, la cuadriga de terracota de Veyes, las cenizas de Orestes, el cetro de Príamo, el velo de Iliona, el Paladio, los ancilia (escudos sagrados). A estos siete algunos autores suman el fuego sagrado de Vesta,</p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>ClaraBernardo</strong></p>]]></description>
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