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		<title>#14 ¿Es el cero un NÚMERO NATURAL?</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/cero-numero-natural/c014#c-14</link>
		<pubDate>Sat, 11 Jul 2020 10:46:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[<p><a class="tooltip c:3345464-11" href="https://www.meneame.net/story/cero-numero-natural/c011#c-11" rel="nofollow">#11</a> cierto. En cualquier caso 0 es un número natural porque es el cardinal del conjunto vacío.</p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>hasta_los_cojones</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<meneame:comment_id>30357616</meneame:comment_id>
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		<meneame:order>13</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>mistral</meneame:user>
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		<title>#13 ¿Es el cero un NÚMERO NATURAL?</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/cero-numero-natural/c013#c-13</link>
		<pubDate>Sat, 11 Jul 2020 08:06:42 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>mistral</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[<p><a class="tooltip c:3345464-1" href="https://www.meneame.net/story/cero-numero-natural/c01#c-1" rel="nofollow">#1</a> No <a href="/search?w=comments&#38;q=%23Boroman&#38;o=date">#Boroman</a>, este es el guapo riojano de Derivando. Eduardo Sáenz de Cabezón. Un profesor de la Universidad de La Rioja que me parece que comunica muy bien. Yo lo vi en una conferencia sobre el &#34;Espejismo de la mayoría&#34; que me pareció muy muy interesante. Han subido la charla y se puede disfrutar en: <a href="https://blogs.vitoria-gasteiz.org/vgaztea/2019/12/13/charla-el-espejismo-de-la-mayoria-youtuber-matematico-eduardo-saenz-de-cabezon-el-9-de-enero/" title="blogs.vitoria-gasteiz.org/vgaztea/2019/12/13/charla-el-espejismo-de-la-mayoria-youtuber-matematico-eduardo-saenz-de-cabezon-el-9-de-enero/" rel="nofollow">blogs.vitoria-gasteiz.org/vgaztea/2019/12/13/charla-el-espejismo-de-la</a><br />
<br />
Un saludo.</p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>mistral</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<meneame:comment_id>30356744</meneame:comment_id>
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		<meneame:order>12</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>zoezoe</meneame:user>
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		<meneame:karma>11</meneame:karma>
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		<title>#12 ¿Es el cero un NÚMERO NATURAL?</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/cero-numero-natural/c012#c-12</link>
		<pubDate>Sat, 11 Jul 2020 01:38:03 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>zoezoe</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[<p><a class="tooltip c:3345464-11" href="https://www.meneame.net/story/cero-numero-natural/c011#c-11" rel="nofollow">#11</a> <br />
<br />
-&#62; <a href="https://www.meneame.net/search?q=cero+numero+natural" title="www.meneame.net/search?q=cero+numero+natural" rel="nofollow">www.meneame.net/search?q=cero+numero+natural</a><br />
-&#62; <a href="https://www.meneame.net/search?q=cero+numero&#38;w=links&#38;p=&#38;s=&#38;h=&#38;o=&#38;u=" title="www.meneame.net/search?q=cero+numero&#38;w=links&#38;p=&#38;s=&#38;h=&#38;o=&#38;u=" rel="nofollow">www.meneame.net/search?q=cero+numero&#38;w=links&#38;p=&#38;s=&#38;h=&</a></p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>zoezoe</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<meneame:comment_id>30356587</meneame:comment_id>
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		<meneame:order>11</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>Rorschach_</meneame:user>
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		<title>#11 ¿Es el cero un NÚMERO NATURAL?</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/cero-numero-natural/c011#c-11</link>
		<pubDate>Sat, 11 Jul 2020 00:05:34 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Rorschach_</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[<p><a class="tooltip c:3345464-9" href="https://www.meneame.net/story/cero-numero-natural/c09#c-9" rel="nofollow">#9</a> Atendiendo sólo a la entradilla y sin ser matemático como tú: 'Los números naturales son los enteros positivos, ...'; un cero no es positivo.</p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>Rorschach_</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<meneame:comment_id>30356471</meneame:comment_id>
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		<meneame:order>10</meneame:order>
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		<meneame:votes>0</meneame:votes>
		<meneame:karma>16</meneame:karma>
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		<title>#10 ¿Es el cero un NÚMERO NATURAL?</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Jul 2020 23:22:17 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>--165145--</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[<p><a class="tooltip c:3345464-9" href="https://www.meneame.net/story/cero-numero-natural/c09#c-9" rel="nofollow">#9</a>, de los conjuntos numerales quería decir. Vamos, que hay conjuntos numerales infinitos.</p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>--165145--</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<meneame:comment_id>30356446</meneame:comment_id>
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		<meneame:order>9</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>--165145--</meneame:user>
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		<meneame:karma>16</meneame:karma>
		<meneame:url>https://www.meneame.net/story/cero-numero-natural</meneame:url>
		<title>#9 ¿Es el cero un NÚMERO NATURAL?</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/cero-numero-natural/c09#c-9</link>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Jul 2020 23:15:43 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>--165145--</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[<p><a class="tooltip c:3345464-3" href="https://www.meneame.net/story/cero-numero-natural/c03#c-3" rel="nofollow">#3</a>, uhm, no, los naturales no son  cardinales de los conjuntos naturales, sino de los conjuntos finitos.</p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>--165145--</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<meneame:comment_id>30354350</meneame:comment_id>
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		<meneame:order>8</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>Miguel_Martinez_1</meneame:user>
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		<meneame:karma>9</meneame:karma>
		<meneame:url>https://www.meneame.net/story/cero-numero-natural</meneame:url>
		<title>#8 ¿Es el cero un NÚMERO NATURAL?</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/cero-numero-natural/c08#c-8</link>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Jul 2020 18:23:33 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Miguel_Martinez_1</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[<p><a class="tooltip c:3345464-7" href="https://www.meneame.net/story/cero-numero-natural/c07#c-7" rel="nofollow">#7</a> natural...</p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>Miguel_Martinez_1</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<meneame:comment_id>30354203</meneame:comment_id>
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		<meneame:karma>7</meneame:karma>
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		<title>#7 ¿Es el cero un NÚMERO NATURAL?</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/cero-numero-natural/c07#c-7</link>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Jul 2020 18:00:59 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Mercaching</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[<p>El cero no existe, el siglo cero no existe, el cumpleaños tampoco.....</p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>Mercaching</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<meneame:comment_id>30354189</meneame:comment_id>
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		<meneame:karma>7</meneame:karma>
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		<title>#6 ¿Es el cero un NÚMERO NATURAL?</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/cero-numero-natural/c06#c-6</link>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Jul 2020 17:59:39 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>drocab2012</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[<p>Depende, si consideras que la penetración anal es natural, pues si....</p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>drocab2012</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<meneame:comment_id>30354141</meneame:comment_id>
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		<meneame:order>5</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>igorymi</meneame:user>
		<meneame:votes>0</meneame:votes>
		<meneame:karma>12</meneame:karma>
		<meneame:url>https://www.meneame.net/story/cero-numero-natural</meneame:url>
		<title>#5 ¿Es el cero un NÚMERO NATURAL?</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/cero-numero-natural/c05#c-5</link>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Jul 2020 17:54:39 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>igorymi</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[<p>Naturalmente que sí <img data-src="https://cdn.mnmstatic.net/v_149/img/menemojis/36/lol.gif" alt="xD" title=":lol: xD" width="18" height="18" src="https://cdn.mnmstatic.net/v_149/img/g.gif" class="emoji lazy" /></p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>igorymi</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<meneame:comment_id>30354075</meneame:comment_id>
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		<meneame:order>4</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>--639535--</meneame:user>
		<meneame:votes>0</meneame:votes>
		<meneame:karma>8</meneame:karma>
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		<title>#4 ¿Es el cero un NÚMERO NATURAL?</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/cero-numero-natural/c04#c-4</link>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Jul 2020 17:46:07 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>--639535--</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[<p>Interesante</p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>--639535--</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<meneame:comment_id>30353758</meneame:comment_id>
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		<meneame:order>3</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>hasta_los_cojones</meneame:user>
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		<title>#3 ¿Es el cero un NÚMERO NATURAL?</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/cero-numero-natural/c03#c-3</link>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Jul 2020 17:00:22 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>hasta_los_cojones</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[<p>Sí.<br />
<br />
Por varios motivos.<br />
<br />
0. Es el cardinal del conjunto vacío, y los naturales son cardinales de conjuntos numerables.<br />
<br />
1. La suma es operación interna dentro de los naturales, y si incluimos el cero como natural, lo sigue siendo.<br />
<br />
2. El producto es operación interna dentro del conjunto blablabla lo mismo que antes</p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>hasta_los_cojones</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<meneame:comment_id>30353693</meneame:comment_id>
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		<meneame:user>cuatroD2</meneame:user>
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		<meneame:karma>10</meneame:karma>
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		<title>#2 ¿Es el cero un NÚMERO NATURAL?</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Jul 2020 16:48:18 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>cuatroD2</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[<p>Los semi-grupos son para débiles mentales <img data-src="https://cdn.mnmstatic.net/v_149/img/menemojis/36/lol.gif" alt="xD" title=":lol: xD" width="18" height="18" src="https://cdn.mnmstatic.net/v_149/img/g.gif" class="emoji lazy" /> <img data-src="https://cdn.mnmstatic.net/v_149/img/menemojis/36/lol.gif" alt="xD" title=":lol: xD" width="18" height="18" src="https://cdn.mnmstatic.net/v_149/img/g.gif" class="emoji lazy" /> <img data-src="https://cdn.mnmstatic.net/v_149/img/menemojis/36/lol.gif" alt="xD" title=":lol: xD" width="18" height="18" src="https://cdn.mnmstatic.net/v_149/img/g.gif" class="emoji lazy" /></p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>cuatroD2</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<meneame:user>aunotrovago</meneame:user>
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		<title>#1 ¿Es el cero un NÚMERO NATURAL?</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Jul 2020 16:47:43 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>aunotrovago</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[<p>Mmmmm, el guapo chilenito de date un Vlog.</p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>aunotrovago</strong></p>]]></description>
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