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		<meneame:comment_id>26598479</meneame:comment_id>
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		<meneame:order>16</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>--46835--</meneame:user>
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		<meneame:karma>18</meneame:karma>
		<meneame:url>https://www.meneame.net/story/copias-chinas-coches-populares-todo-mundo-ing</meneame:url>
		<title>#16 Copias chinas de coches populares en todo el mundo  [ ing ]</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/copias-chinas-coches-populares-todo-mundo-ing/c016#c-16</link>
		<pubDate>Sun, 17 Mar 2019 12:58:29 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>--46835--</dc:creator>
		<guid>https://www.meneame.net/story/copias-chinas-coches-populares-todo-mundo-ing/c016#c-16</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[<p><a class="tooltip c:3098097-15" href="https://www.meneame.net/story/copias-chinas-coches-populares-todo-mundo-ing/c015#c-15" rel="nofollow">#15</a> pues el Smart de primera generación se vendía a pérdida donde todo el tiempo que estuvo en venta, era un coche más caro que esos 20.000 €, situación habitual, pero el Smart era porcentualmente unos de los coches con mayor venta a pérdida.<br />
Fabricar el Smart como coche, con sus medidas de seguridad es mucho más complicado que un coche de mayores dimensiones, de hecho supera a bastantes coches del mismo segmento, el B, de mayores dimensiones de marcas generales, se suma a unas predicciones de ventas muy optimistas(que impidieron cancelar la producción, uno de los ejemplos de manual del problema del sobrecoste de automatizar). <br />
Lo del precio pasa con el Toyota IQ y los keicar japoneses, ahí ya menos por estar menos gravados que los coches normales, también es un mercado adaptado a ese tamaño, el Smart los primeros años salía con viajes en barcos y tren de varías compañías más barato, y se intentó lo mismo con los aparcamientos, no cuajó. En Japón si hay mercado adaptado a coches así, un keicar tiene ventajas económicas en aparcamientos y trasporte embarcado(creo que no hay ya servicios de transporte de coches en tren).<br />
<br />
Otra cosa es que el Smart puedes remolcarlo con anclaje simple.</p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>--46835--</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<meneame:comment_id>26597867</meneame:comment_id>
		<meneame:link_id>3098097</meneame:link_id>
		<meneame:order>15</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>donsoul</meneame:user>
		<meneame:votes>0</meneame:votes>
		<meneame:karma>8</meneame:karma>
		<meneame:url>https://www.meneame.net/story/copias-chinas-coches-populares-todo-mundo-ing</meneame:url>
		<title>#15 Copias chinas de coches populares en todo el mundo  [ ing ]</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/copias-chinas-coches-populares-todo-mundo-ing/c015#c-15</link>
		<pubDate>Sun, 17 Mar 2019 11:09:38 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>donsoul</dc:creator>
		<guid>https://www.meneame.net/story/copias-chinas-coches-populares-todo-mundo-ing/c015#c-15</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[<p>20000 pavos por un Smart me parece una locura. Y 13000 también. Un coche así hubiera esperado que costase menos de 10000 la verdad.</p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>donsoul</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<meneame:comment_id>26596711</meneame:comment_id>
		<meneame:link_id>3098097</meneame:link_id>
		<meneame:order>14</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>--584079--</meneame:user>
		<meneame:votes>0</meneame:votes>
		<meneame:karma>11</meneame:karma>
		<meneame:url>https://www.meneame.net/story/copias-chinas-coches-populares-todo-mundo-ing</meneame:url>
		<title>#14 Copias chinas de coches populares en todo el mundo  [ ing ]</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/copias-chinas-coches-populares-todo-mundo-ing/c014#c-14</link>
		<pubDate>Sun, 17 Mar 2019 07:00:26 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>--584079--</dc:creator>
		<guid>https://www.meneame.net/story/copias-chinas-coches-populares-todo-mundo-ing/c014#c-14</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[<p>¿Serán luego por dentro tan malos como las copias de relojes de marca? <br />
Los chinos, siempre cambiando oro por baratijas.</p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>--584079--</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<meneame:comment_id>26595183</meneame:comment_id>
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		<meneame:order>13</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>johel</meneame:user>
		<meneame:votes>0</meneame:votes>
		<meneame:karma>7</meneame:karma>
		<meneame:url>https://www.meneame.net/story/copias-chinas-coches-populares-todo-mundo-ing</meneame:url>
		<title>#13 Copias chinas de coches populares en todo el mundo  [ ing ]</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/copias-chinas-coches-populares-todo-mundo-ing/c013#c-13</link>
		<pubDate>Sat, 16 Mar 2019 18:55:51 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>johel</dc:creator>
		<guid>https://www.meneame.net/story/copias-chinas-coches-populares-todo-mundo-ing/c013#c-13</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[<p><a class="tooltip c:3098097-12" href="https://www.meneame.net/story/copias-chinas-coches-populares-todo-mundo-ing/c012#c-12" rel="nofollow">#12</a> puede ser, no soy ningun experto, ni siquiera aficionadillo. Me ha recordado mucho mas al diseño general del 911, y las parrillas grandes estan de moda hoy dia o esa impresion me da.</p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>johel</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<meneame:comment_id>26594741</meneame:comment_id>
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		<meneame:order>12</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>--46835--</meneame:user>
		<meneame:votes>0</meneame:votes>
		<meneame:karma>10</meneame:karma>
		<meneame:url>https://www.meneame.net/story/copias-chinas-coches-populares-todo-mundo-ing</meneame:url>
		<title>#12 Copias chinas de coches populares en todo el mundo  [ ing ]</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/copias-chinas-coches-populares-todo-mundo-ing/c012#c-12</link>
		<pubDate>Sat, 16 Mar 2019 17:28:10 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>--46835--</dc:creator>
		<guid>https://www.meneame.net/story/copias-chinas-coches-populares-todo-mundo-ing/c012#c-12</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[<p><a class="tooltip c:3098097-3" href="https://www.meneame.net/story/copias-chinas-coches-populares-todo-mundo-ing/c03#c-3" rel="nofollow">#3</a> La parrilla frontal es casi inexistente en el 911 hasta los GT3, ni siquiera el Panamera tiene semejante parrilla.</p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>--46835--</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<meneame:comment_id>26593881</meneame:comment_id>
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		<meneame:order>11</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>--272179--</meneame:user>
		<meneame:votes>0</meneame:votes>
		<meneame:karma>16</meneame:karma>
		<meneame:url>https://www.meneame.net/story/copias-chinas-coches-populares-todo-mundo-ing</meneame:url>
		<title>#11 Copias chinas de coches populares en todo el mundo  [ ing ]</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/copias-chinas-coches-populares-todo-mundo-ing/c011#c-11</link>
		<pubDate>Sat, 16 Mar 2019 14:19:19 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>--272179--</dc:creator>
		<guid>https://www.meneame.net/story/copias-chinas-coches-populares-todo-mundo-ing/c011#c-11</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[<p><a href="/m/motor" title="|motor">|motor</a></p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>--272179--</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<meneame:comment_id>26593515</meneame:comment_id>
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		<meneame:order>10</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>--516568--</meneame:user>
		<meneame:votes>4</meneame:votes>
		<meneame:karma>61</meneame:karma>
		<meneame:url>https://www.meneame.net/story/copias-chinas-coches-populares-todo-mundo-ing</meneame:url>
		<title>#10 Copias chinas de coches populares en todo el mundo  [ ing ]</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/copias-chinas-coches-populares-todo-mundo-ing/c010#c-10</link>
		<pubDate>Sat, 16 Mar 2019 12:58:44 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>--516568--</dc:creator>
		<guid>https://www.meneame.net/story/copias-chinas-coches-populares-todo-mundo-ing/c010#c-10</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[<p>Reiros de las copias... pero en cualquier ámbito, copiar a quienes lo hacen bien es el paso previo a superarlos.</p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>--516568--</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<meneame:comment_id>26592112</meneame:comment_id>
		<meneame:link_id>3098097</meneame:link_id>
		<meneame:order>9</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>kurro</meneame:user>
		<meneame:votes>0</meneame:votes>
		<meneame:karma>9</meneame:karma>
		<meneame:url>https://www.meneame.net/story/copias-chinas-coches-populares-todo-mundo-ing</meneame:url>
		<title>#9 Copias chinas de coches populares en todo el mundo  [ ing ]</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/copias-chinas-coches-populares-todo-mundo-ing/c09#c-9</link>
		<pubDate>Sat, 16 Mar 2019 08:39:30 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>kurro</dc:creator>
		<guid>https://www.meneame.net/story/copias-chinas-coches-populares-todo-mundo-ing/c09#c-9</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[<p>Algunos tampoco se parecen tanto</p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>kurro</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<meneame:comment_id>26592086</meneame:comment_id>
		<meneame:link_id>3098097</meneame:link_id>
		<meneame:order>8</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>--2002--</meneame:user>
		<meneame:votes>4</meneame:votes>
		<meneame:karma>62</meneame:karma>
		<meneame:url>https://www.meneame.net/story/copias-chinas-coches-populares-todo-mundo-ing</meneame:url>
		<title>#8 Copias chinas de coches populares en todo el mundo  [ ing ]</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/copias-chinas-coches-populares-todo-mundo-ing/c08#c-8</link>
		<pubDate>Sat, 16 Mar 2019 08:30:34 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>--2002--</dc:creator>
		<guid>https://www.meneame.net/story/copias-chinas-coches-populares-todo-mundo-ing/c08#c-8</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[<p><a class="tooltip c:3098097-5" href="https://www.meneame.net/story/copias-chinas-coches-populares-todo-mundo-ing/c05#c-5" rel="nofollow">#5</a> Traducción chapucera de <em>copycat</em></p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>--2002--</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<meneame:comment_id>26592081</meneame:comment_id>
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		<meneame:order>7</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>--562296--</meneame:user>
		<meneame:votes>3</meneame:votes>
		<meneame:karma>43</meneame:karma>
		<meneame:url>https://www.meneame.net/story/copias-chinas-coches-populares-todo-mundo-ing</meneame:url>
		<title>#7 Copias chinas de coches populares en todo el mundo  [ ing ]</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/copias-chinas-coches-populares-todo-mundo-ing/c07#c-7</link>
		<pubDate>Sat, 16 Mar 2019 08:29:10 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>--562296--</dc:creator>
		<guid>https://www.meneame.net/story/copias-chinas-coches-populares-todo-mundo-ing/c07#c-7</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[<p>[Usuario deshabilitado]</p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>--562296--</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<meneame:comment_id>26592021</meneame:comment_id>
		<meneame:link_id>3098097</meneame:link_id>
		<meneame:order>6</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>xiobit</meneame:user>
		<meneame:votes>2</meneame:votes>
		<meneame:karma>33</meneame:karma>
		<meneame:url>https://www.meneame.net/story/copias-chinas-coches-populares-todo-mundo-ing</meneame:url>
		<title>#6 Copias chinas de coches populares en todo el mundo  [ ing ]</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/copias-chinas-coches-populares-todo-mundo-ing/c06#c-6</link>
		<pubDate>Sat, 16 Mar 2019 08:11:03 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>xiobit</dc:creator>
		<guid>https://www.meneame.net/story/copias-chinas-coches-populares-todo-mundo-ing/c06#c-6</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[<p>Algo así como el último SUV de Mercedes copiando al BMW X6?  <img data-src="https://cdn.mnmstatic.net/v_149/img/twemojis/36/1f601.png" alt="{0x1f601}" title="{0x1f601}" width="18" height="18" src="https://cdn.mnmstatic.net/v_149/img/g.gif" class="emoji lazy" />  <img data-src="https://cdn.mnmstatic.net/v_149/img/twemojis/36/1f601.png" alt="{0x1f601}" title="{0x1f601}" width="18" height="18" src="https://cdn.mnmstatic.net/v_149/img/g.gif" class="emoji lazy" />  <img data-src="https://cdn.mnmstatic.net/v_149/img/twemojis/36/1f601.png" alt="{0x1f601}" title="{0x1f601}" width="18" height="18" src="https://cdn.mnmstatic.net/v_149/img/g.gif" class="emoji lazy" /> </p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>xiobit</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<meneame:comment_id>26591864</meneame:comment_id>
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		<meneame:order>5</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>--119742--</meneame:user>
		<meneame:votes>3</meneame:votes>
		<meneame:karma>46</meneame:karma>
		<meneame:url>https://www.meneame.net/story/copias-chinas-coches-populares-todo-mundo-ing</meneame:url>
		<title>#5 Copias chinas de coches populares en todo el mundo  [ ing ]</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/copias-chinas-coches-populares-todo-mundo-ing/c05#c-5</link>
		<pubDate>Sat, 16 Mar 2019 07:09:27 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>--119742--</dc:creator>
		<guid>https://www.meneame.net/story/copias-chinas-coches-populares-todo-mundo-ing/c05#c-5</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[<p>Gatos de copia? <img data-src="https://cdn.mnmstatic.net/v_149/img/menemojis/36/shit.png" alt=":shit:" title=":shit:" width="18" height="18" src="https://cdn.mnmstatic.net/v_149/img/g.gif" class="emoji lazy" /></p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>--119742--</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<meneame:comment_id>26590781</meneame:comment_id>
		<meneame:link_id>3098097</meneame:link_id>
		<meneame:order>4</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>johel</meneame:user>
		<meneame:votes>3</meneame:votes>
		<meneame:karma>45</meneame:karma>
		<meneame:url>https://www.meneame.net/story/copias-chinas-coches-populares-todo-mundo-ing</meneame:url>
		<title>#4 Copias chinas de coches populares en todo el mundo  [ ing ]</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/copias-chinas-coches-populares-todo-mundo-ing/c04#c-4</link>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Mar 2019 20:34:58 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>johel</dc:creator>
		<guid>https://www.meneame.net/story/copias-chinas-coches-populares-todo-mundo-ing/c04#c-4</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[<p><a class="tooltip c:3098097-1" href="https://www.meneame.net/story/copias-chinas-coches-populares-todo-mundo-ing/c01#c-1" rel="nofollow">#1</a> No es del todo correcto, los rusos desarrollaron su industria automovilistica desde 1929 a base de que FORD hiciese dinero montandoles fabricas y a la ayuda de FIAT.<br />
Los chinos.. basicamente lo mismo, la historia se reptite.</p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>johel</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<meneame:comment_id>26590765</meneame:comment_id>
		<meneame:link_id>3098097</meneame:link_id>
		<meneame:order>3</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>johel</meneame:user>
		<meneame:votes>4</meneame:votes>
		<meneame:karma>55</meneame:karma>
		<meneame:url>https://www.meneame.net/story/copias-chinas-coches-populares-todo-mundo-ing</meneame:url>
		<title>#3 Copias chinas de coches populares en todo el mundo  [ ing ]</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/copias-chinas-coches-populares-todo-mundo-ing/c03#c-3</link>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Mar 2019 20:31:59 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>johel</dc:creator>
		<guid>https://www.meneame.net/story/copias-chinas-coches-populares-todo-mundo-ing/c03#c-3</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[<p>juas, la mejor el Suzhou Eagle Carrie basado on Ferrari California... el becario creo que  ha confundido el ferrari california con el porsche 911 carrera.</p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>johel</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<meneame:comment_id>26590601</meneame:comment_id>
		<meneame:link_id>3098097</meneame:link_id>
		<meneame:order>2</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>--596665--</meneame:user>
		<meneame:votes>8</meneame:votes>
		<meneame:karma>98</meneame:karma>
		<meneame:url>https://www.meneame.net/story/copias-chinas-coches-populares-todo-mundo-ing</meneame:url>
		<title>#2 Copias chinas de coches populares en todo el mundo  [ ing ]</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/copias-chinas-coches-populares-todo-mundo-ing/c02#c-2</link>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Mar 2019 19:52:26 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>--596665--</dc:creator>
		<guid>https://www.meneame.net/story/copias-chinas-coches-populares-todo-mundo-ing/c02#c-2</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[<p><a class="tooltip c:3098097-1" href="https://www.meneame.net/story/copias-chinas-coches-populares-todo-mundo-ing/c01#c-1" rel="nofollow">#1</a> cierto, ahora tienen Huawei, Xiaomi, marcas de coches como Byd pionera en coches eléctricos, tecnología a reventar, apostando por el futuro y mientras tanto, España, apostando al café torero, borrachera, burbuja inmobiliaria...China tiene de todo, bueno y malo.</p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>--596665--</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<title>#1 Copias chinas de coches populares en todo el mundo  [ ing ]</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/copias-chinas-coches-populares-todo-mundo-ing/c01#c-1</link>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Mar 2019 19:40:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[<p>Ni siquiera son originales en copiar. Los rusos desarrollaron su ineustria automovilística hace 60 años a base de copiar descaradamente los coches occidentales</p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>--136355--</strong></p>]]></description>
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