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		<meneame:order>12</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>Nylo</meneame:user>
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		<meneame:url>https://www.meneame.net/story/paises-podrian-ser-inhabitables-2070</meneame:url>
		<title>#12 Los países que podrían ser inhabitables en 2070</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/paises-podrian-ser-inhabitables-2070/c012#c-12</link>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Sep 2018 07:16:11 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Nylo</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[<p><a class="tooltip c:3014896-11" href="https://www.meneame.net/story/paises-podrian-ser-inhabitables-2070/c011#c-11" rel="nofollow">#11</a> La temperatura media anual de Beijing (Pekin) anda en los 13-14 grados:<br />
<a href="https://www.worldweatheronline.com/beijing-weather-averages/beijing/cn.aspx" title="www.worldweatheronline.com/beijing-weather-averages/beijing/cn.aspx" rel="nofollow">www.worldweatheronline.com/beijing-weather-averages/beijing/cn.aspx</a><br />
La temperatura media incluso de los meses más fríos en Riad, Arabia Saudita, es superior a esa media:<br />
<a href="https://www.worldweatheronline.com/riyadh-weather-averages/ar-riyad/sa.aspx" title="www.worldweatheronline.com/riyadh-weather-averages/ar-riyad/sa.aspx" rel="nofollow">www.worldweatheronline.com/riyadh-weather-averages/ar-riyad/sa.aspx</a><br />
Dale a un tonto un martillo... o a un periodista o meneante un teclado.</p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>Nylo</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<meneame:comment_id>25329707</meneame:comment_id>
		<meneame:link_id>3014896</meneame:link_id>
		<meneame:order>11</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>pipe1976</meneame:user>
		<meneame:votes>0</meneame:votes>
		<meneame:karma>6</meneame:karma>
		<meneame:url>https://www.meneame.net/story/paises-podrian-ser-inhabitables-2070</meneame:url>
		<title>#11 Los países que podrían ser inhabitables en 2070</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/paises-podrian-ser-inhabitables-2070/c011#c-11</link>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Sep 2018 22:10:46 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>pipe1976</dc:creator>
		<guid>https://www.meneame.net/story/paises-podrian-ser-inhabitables-2070/c011#c-11</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[<p><a class="tooltip c:3014896-3" href="https://www.meneame.net/story/paises-podrian-ser-inhabitables-2070/c03#c-3" rel="nofollow">#3</a> será que tú sabes más que gente que se dedica a esto oye. Cuéntame mas</p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>pipe1976</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<meneame:comment_id>25329706</meneame:comment_id>
		<meneame:link_id>3014896</meneame:link_id>
		<meneame:order>10</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>pipe1976</meneame:user>
		<meneame:votes>0</meneame:votes>
		<meneame:karma>6</meneame:karma>
		<meneame:url>https://www.meneame.net/story/paises-podrian-ser-inhabitables-2070</meneame:url>
		<title>#10 Los países que podrían ser inhabitables en 2070</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/paises-podrian-ser-inhabitables-2070/c010#c-10</link>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Sep 2018 22:10:06 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>pipe1976</dc:creator>
		<guid>https://www.meneame.net/story/paises-podrian-ser-inhabitables-2070/c010#c-10</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[<p><a class="tooltip c:3014896-2" href="https://www.meneame.net/story/paises-podrian-ser-inhabitables-2070/c02#c-2" rel="nofollow">#2</a> dale a un tonto un martillo....</p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>pipe1976</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<meneame:comment_id>25328172</meneame:comment_id>
		<meneame:link_id>3014896</meneame:link_id>
		<meneame:order>9</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>--561105--</meneame:user>
		<meneame:votes>0</meneame:votes>
		<meneame:karma>9</meneame:karma>
		<meneame:url>https://www.meneame.net/story/paises-podrian-ser-inhabitables-2070</meneame:url>
		<title>#9 Los países que podrían ser inhabitables en 2070</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/paises-podrian-ser-inhabitables-2070/c09#c-9</link>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Sep 2018 17:39:59 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>--561105--</dc:creator>
		<guid>https://www.meneame.net/story/paises-podrian-ser-inhabitables-2070/c09#c-9</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[<p><a class="tooltip c:3014896-8" href="https://www.meneame.net/story/paises-podrian-ser-inhabitables-2070/c08#c-8" rel="nofollow">#8</a> seguramente, pero no he mirado cómo han hecho el estudio... pero vamos, fijo q son 40. a no ser que hayan hecho algún cálculo exponencial de sajeraos!</p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>--561105--</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<meneame:comment_id>25328019</meneame:comment_id>
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		<meneame:order>8</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>XavierGEltroll</meneame:user>
		<meneame:votes>1</meneame:votes>
		<meneame:karma>17</meneame:karma>
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		<title>#8 Los países que podrían ser inhabitables en 2070</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/paises-podrian-ser-inhabitables-2070/c08#c-8</link>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Sep 2018 17:07:29 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>XavierGEltroll</dc:creator>
		<guid>https://www.meneame.net/story/paises-podrian-ser-inhabitables-2070/c08#c-8</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[<p><a class="tooltip c:3014896-1" href="https://www.meneame.net/story/paises-podrian-ser-inhabitables-2070/c01#c-1" rel="nofollow">#1</a> pero Pekín o Pokón con 400.000.000 de habitantes ...¿Se les ha ido la olla, no?</p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>XavierGEltroll</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<meneame:comment_id>25327035</meneame:comment_id>
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		<meneame:order>7</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>Nylo</meneame:user>
		<meneame:votes>0</meneame:votes>
		<meneame:karma>10</meneame:karma>
		<meneame:url>https://www.meneame.net/story/paises-podrian-ser-inhabitables-2070</meneame:url>
		<title>#7 Los países que podrían ser inhabitables en 2070</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/paises-podrian-ser-inhabitables-2070/c07#c-7</link>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Sep 2018 14:58:53 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Nylo</dc:creator>
		<guid>https://www.meneame.net/story/paises-podrian-ser-inhabitables-2070/c07#c-7</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[<p><a href="https://judithcurry.com/2015/12/13/a-closer-look-at-scenario-rcp8-5/" title="judithcurry.com/2015/12/13/a-closer-look-at-scenario-rcp8-5/" rel="nofollow">judithcurry.com/2015/12/13/a-closer-look-at-scenario-rcp8-5/</a><br />
<i><b>Una mirada más de cerca al escenario 8.5</b><br />
[...] La población de Nigeria crecerá de los 175 millones de hoy a 1500 millones en 2100 [...] la tendencia de 300 años de evolución hacia fuentes de energía más eficientes da la vuelta y quemamos todas las reservas [...] el uso del carbón aumentará no sólo en China e India sino en todos los países emergentes, en contra de las tendencias actuales [...] el PIB mundial por kg de uso equivalente del petróleo caerá enormemente, pese a que la tendencia actual es a aumentar [...] </i></p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>Nylo</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<meneame:comment_id>25326824</meneame:comment_id>
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		<meneame:order>6</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>Nylo</meneame:user>
		<meneame:votes>0</meneame:votes>
		<meneame:karma>10</meneame:karma>
		<meneame:url>https://www.meneame.net/story/paises-podrian-ser-inhabitables-2070</meneame:url>
		<title>#6 Los países que podrían ser inhabitables en 2070</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/paises-podrian-ser-inhabitables-2070/c06#c-6</link>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Sep 2018 14:38:37 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Nylo</dc:creator>
		<guid>https://www.meneame.net/story/paises-podrian-ser-inhabitables-2070/c06#c-6</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[<p><a class="tooltip c:3014896-4" href="https://www.meneame.net/story/paises-podrian-ser-inhabitables-2070/c04#c-4" rel="nofollow">#4</a> Ya he encontrado yo el estudio, parece que es este:<br />
<a href="https://www.nature.com/articles/s41467-018-05252-y" title="www.nature.com/articles/s41467-018-05252-y" rel="nofollow">www.nature.com/articles/s41467-018-05252-y</a><br />
<br />
Y en él se lee lo de siempre en tooooooodos los estudios alarmistas:<br />
<i>&#34;We perform simulations for historical period (1975–2005), as well as future climate (2070–2100) assuming two scenarios of GHG emissions28 (<b>BAU scenario (RCP8.5)</b> and moderate mitigation scenario (RCP4.5))&#34;</i><br />
<br />
Llamar &#34;Business as usual&#34; (BAU) al escenario 8.5 es no tener ni puta idea de qué va ese escenario. De todos los escenarios que plantea el IPCC, es el único que podemos decir con total seguridad que NO OCURRIRÁ, porque requiere más emisiones de las que son posibles con nuestras reservas actuales y futuras de combustibles fósiles, y va acompañado de un incremento de población brutal que no sería posible en medio de unas calamidades climáticas como las que ese escenario dice que vendrían.<br />
Para entender con detalle las innumerables razones por las que el escenario RCP 8.5 no es posible y existe única y exclusivamente porque permite meter miedo al personal, recomiendo leer este artículo:<br />
<a href="https://wattsupwiththat.com/2016/04/05/rcp-8-5-the-mother-of-all-junk-climate-science/" title="wattsupwiththat.com/2016/04/05/rcp-8-5-the-mother-of-all-junk-climate-science/" rel="nofollow">wattsupwiththat.com/2016/04/05/rcp-8-5-the-mother-of-all-junk-climate-</a><br />
y luego<br />
<a href="https://wattsupwiththat.com/2016/04/06/rcp-8-5-part-deux-the-stuff-nightmares-are-made-from/" title="wattsupwiththat.com/2016/04/06/rcp-8-5-part-deux-the-stuff-nightmares-are-made-from/" rel="nofollow">wattsupwiththat.com/2016/04/06/rcp-8-5-part-deux-the-stuff-nightmares-</a></p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>Nylo</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<meneame:comment_id>25326801</meneame:comment_id>
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		<meneame:order>5</meneame:order>
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		<meneame:votes>0</meneame:votes>
		<meneame:karma>7</meneame:karma>
		<meneame:url>https://www.meneame.net/story/paises-podrian-ser-inhabitables-2070</meneame:url>
		<title>#5 Los países que podrían ser inhabitables en 2070</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/paises-podrian-ser-inhabitables-2070/c05#c-5</link>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Sep 2018 14:36:02 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>--111128--</dc:creator>
		<guid>https://www.meneame.net/story/paises-podrian-ser-inhabitables-2070/c05#c-5</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[<p>En el titular he leído planetas en lugar de países.</p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>--111128--</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<meneame:comment_id>25326736</meneame:comment_id>
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		<meneame:order>4</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>Nylo</meneame:user>
		<meneame:votes>0</meneame:votes>
		<meneame:karma>10</meneame:karma>
		<meneame:url>https://www.meneame.net/story/paises-podrian-ser-inhabitables-2070</meneame:url>
		<title>#4 Los países que podrían ser inhabitables en 2070</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/paises-podrian-ser-inhabitables-2070/c04#c-4</link>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Sep 2018 14:27:39 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Nylo</dc:creator>
		<guid>https://www.meneame.net/story/paises-podrian-ser-inhabitables-2070/c04#c-4</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[<p>Artículo dedicado por entero a hablar de un supuesto estudio del MIT que no enlaza a dicho estudio del MIT. Porque no existe el voto &#34;mal periodismo&#34; que si no...</p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>Nylo</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<meneame:comment_id>25326669</meneame:comment_id>
		<meneame:link_id>3014896</meneame:link_id>
		<meneame:order>3</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>Pedro_Chosco</meneame:user>
		<meneame:votes>0</meneame:votes>
		<meneame:karma>10</meneame:karma>
		<meneame:url>https://www.meneame.net/story/paises-podrian-ser-inhabitables-2070</meneame:url>
		<title>#3 Los países que podrían ser inhabitables en 2070</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/paises-podrian-ser-inhabitables-2070/c03#c-3</link>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Sep 2018 14:20:20 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Pedro_Chosco</dc:creator>
		<guid>https://www.meneame.net/story/paises-podrian-ser-inhabitables-2070/c03#c-3</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[<p><i>&#34;Pekín [...] podría convertirse de aquí a unos años en la zona más cálida del mundo.&#34;</i><br />
<br />
¿Más que el Sahara o Arabia? Ni de coña.</p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>Pedro_Chosco</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<meneame:comment_id>25326637</meneame:comment_id>
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		<meneame:order>2</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>Nylo</meneame:user>
		<meneame:votes>3</meneame:votes>
		<meneame:karma>34</meneame:karma>
		<meneame:url>https://www.meneame.net/story/paises-podrian-ser-inhabitables-2070</meneame:url>
		<title>#2 Los países que podrían ser inhabitables en 2070</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/paises-podrian-ser-inhabitables-2070/c02#c-2</link>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Sep 2018 14:16:12 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Nylo</dc:creator>
		<guid>https://www.meneame.net/story/paises-podrian-ser-inhabitables-2070/c02#c-2</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[<p>1-2 cansina. 3-4 errónea. 5-6 sensacionalista. Hmmm... ha salido un 3.</p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>Nylo</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<meneame:comment_id>25326616</meneame:comment_id>
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		<meneame:order>1</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>--561105--</meneame:user>
		<meneame:votes>0</meneame:votes>
		<meneame:karma>9</meneame:karma>
		<meneame:url>https://www.meneame.net/story/paises-podrian-ser-inhabitables-2070</meneame:url>
		<title>#1 Los países que podrían ser inhabitables en 2070</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/paises-podrian-ser-inhabitables-2070/c01#c-1</link>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Sep 2018 14:14:16 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>--561105--</dc:creator>
		<guid>https://www.meneame.net/story/paises-podrian-ser-inhabitables-2070/c01#c-1</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[<p>pues si no es en Pekín será en Pokón.<br />
<br />
<a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V3h6LlJPT9o" title="www.youtube.com/watch?v=V3h6LlJPT9o" rel="nofollow">www.youtube.com/watch?v=V3h6LlJPT9o</a></p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>--561105--</strong></p>]]></description>
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