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		<meneame:comment_id>24637549</meneame:comment_id>
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		<meneame:order>17</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>valzin</meneame:user>
		<meneame:votes>0</meneame:votes>
		<meneame:karma>9</meneame:karma>
		<meneame:url>https://www.meneame.net/story/machistas-del-bikini</meneame:url>
		<title>#17 Las machistas del bikini</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/machistas-del-bikini/c017#c-17</link>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Jun 2018 14:26:45 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>valzin</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[<p><a class="tooltip c:2969619-16" href="https://www.meneame.net/story/machistas-del-bikini/c016#c-16" rel="nofollow">#16</a>  Pues yo también lo veo machista pero por otras razones...<br />
¿Por qué he de tapar lo que el hombre lleva destapado?<br />
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Mis domingas están morenas pero si echamos la vista atrás la censura prohibía a las mujeres enseñar algo más del tobillo en la playa, y fuera de ella. Luego pasó hasta la rodilla y más tarde al bañador. <br />
<br />
Quien ponía esas normas era la iglesia y el estado, hombres siempre.<br />
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Culturalmente seguimos influenciados por aquellas épocas (40, 50, 60 años atrás no son tantos) y ahí andamos... enseñando los pechos con cierto pudor. O pensando que el bikini no tapa suficiente <img data-src="https://cdn.mnmstatic.net/v_149/img/menemojis/36/undecided.png" alt=":-/" title=":-/ :/" width="18" height="18" src="https://cdn.mnmstatic.net/v_149/img/g.gif" class="emoji lazy" /></p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>valzin</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<meneame:comment_id>24637347</meneame:comment_id>
		<meneame:link_id>2969619</meneame:link_id>
		<meneame:order>16</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>Ramsay_Bolton</meneame:user>
		<meneame:votes>0</meneame:votes>
		<meneame:karma>7</meneame:karma>
		<meneame:url>https://www.meneame.net/story/machistas-del-bikini</meneame:url>
		<title>#16 Las machistas del bikini</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/machistas-del-bikini/c016#c-16</link>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Jun 2018 13:58:55 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Ramsay_Bolton</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[<p>El otro dia una loca de twitter decia que el bikini era machista ya que lo inventaron los hombres para ver casi desnudas a las mujeres <img data-src="https://cdn.mnmstatic.net/v_149/img/menemojis/36/lol.gif" alt="xD" title=":lol: xD" width="18" height="18" src="https://cdn.mnmstatic.net/v_149/img/g.gif" class="emoji lazy" /> <img data-src="https://cdn.mnmstatic.net/v_149/img/menemojis/36/lol.gif" alt="xD" title=":lol: xD" width="18" height="18" src="https://cdn.mnmstatic.net/v_149/img/g.gif" class="emoji lazy" /> <img data-src="https://cdn.mnmstatic.net/v_149/img/menemojis/36/lol.gif" alt="xD" title=":lol: xD" width="18" height="18" src="https://cdn.mnmstatic.net/v_149/img/g.gif" class="emoji lazy" /></p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>Ramsay_Bolton</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<meneame:comment_id>24636915</meneame:comment_id>
		<meneame:link_id>2969619</meneame:link_id>
		<meneame:order>15</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>Nova6K0</meneame:user>
		<meneame:votes>1</meneame:votes>
		<meneame:karma>17</meneame:karma>
		<meneame:url>https://www.meneame.net/story/machistas-del-bikini</meneame:url>
		<title>#15 Las machistas del bikini</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/machistas-del-bikini/c015#c-15</link>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Jun 2018 13:08:51 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Nova6K0</dc:creator>
		<guid>https://www.meneame.net/story/machistas-del-bikini/c015#c-15</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[<p>Cosificación vs neo-puritanismo. <img data-src="https://cdn.mnmstatic.net/v_149/img/menemojis/36/popcorn.gif" alt=":popcorn:" title=":popcorn:" width="29" height="18" src="https://cdn.mnmstatic.net/v_149/img/g.gif" class="emoji lazy" /> <img data-src="https://cdn.mnmstatic.net/v_149/img/menemojis/36/popcorn.gif" alt=":popcorn:" title=":popcorn:" width="29" height="18" src="https://cdn.mnmstatic.net/v_149/img/g.gif" class="emoji lazy" /> <br />
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Salu2</p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>Nova6K0</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<meneame:comment_id>24636788</meneame:comment_id>
		<meneame:link_id>2969619</meneame:link_id>
		<meneame:order>14</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>--443967--</meneame:user>
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		<meneame:url>https://www.meneame.net/story/machistas-del-bikini</meneame:url>
		<title>#14 Las machistas del bikini</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/machistas-del-bikini/c014#c-14</link>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Jun 2018 12:55:14 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>--443967--</dc:creator>
		<guid>https://www.meneame.net/story/machistas-del-bikini/c014#c-14</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[<p><a class="tooltip c:2969619-13" href="https://www.meneame.net/story/machistas-del-bikini/c013#c-13" rel="nofollow">#13</a> En el sur de Italia impresionate Matera, donde se rodó parte de Juego de Tronos. <br />
<br />
Llevo toda la vida con el arte romano, románico / normando, gótico, renacimiento, barroco...  He visto tanto que tiene que ser algo muy especial para que me motive.</p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>--443967--</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<meneame:comment_id>24636733</meneame:comment_id>
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		<meneame:order>13</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>Dene</meneame:user>
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		<meneame:karma>11</meneame:karma>
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		<title>#13 Las machistas del bikini</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/machistas-del-bikini/c013#c-13</link>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Jun 2018 12:49:47 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Dene</dc:creator>
		<guid>https://www.meneame.net/story/machistas-del-bikini/c013#c-13</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[<p><a class="tooltip c:2969619-12" href="https://www.meneame.net/story/machistas-del-bikini/c012#c-12" rel="nofollow">#12</a> Pues Sicilia es una gozada, porque en un pais pequeñito que te lo recorres en unas horas de punta a punta tienes templos griegos, teatros romanos, catedral cristiana medio oriental, varios castillos de estilo normando... y era barato, al menos cuando fui yo, y se comía muy bien.. Segesta, Agrigento,Taormina,Siracusa.. una gozada</p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>Dene</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<meneame:comment_id>24636592</meneame:comment_id>
		<meneame:link_id>2969619</meneame:link_id>
		<meneame:order>12</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>--443967--</meneame:user>
		<meneame:votes>0</meneame:votes>
		<meneame:karma>7</meneame:karma>
		<meneame:url>https://www.meneame.net/story/machistas-del-bikini</meneame:url>
		<title>#12 Las machistas del bikini</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/machistas-del-bikini/c012#c-12</link>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Jun 2018 12:33:57 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>--443967--</dc:creator>
		<guid>https://www.meneame.net/story/machistas-del-bikini/c012#c-12</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[<p><a class="tooltip c:2969619-11" href="https://www.meneame.net/story/machistas-del-bikini/c011#c-11" rel="nofollow">#11</a> El año pasado estuvimos dos semanas recorriendo Grecia: bueno, bonito y barato. Tenía ganas de visitar el templo de Segesta, pero tras el Hefestión de Atenas o el Partenon, poco me queda ya por ver. Este año toca fiordos y pronto voy a tener que preparar Egipto.</p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>--443967--</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<meneame:comment_id>24636550</meneame:comment_id>
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		<meneame:order>11</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>Dene</meneame:user>
		<meneame:votes>0</meneame:votes>
		<meneame:karma>11</meneame:karma>
		<meneame:url>https://www.meneame.net/story/machistas-del-bikini</meneame:url>
		<title>#11 Las machistas del bikini</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/machistas-del-bikini/c011#c-11</link>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Jun 2018 12:28:59 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Dene</dc:creator>
		<guid>https://www.meneame.net/story/machistas-del-bikini/c011#c-11</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[<p><a class="tooltip c:2969619-10" href="https://www.meneame.net/story/machistas-del-bikini/c010#c-10" rel="nofollow">#10</a> estuve hace ya 10 años viendo esa villa.. una preciosidad</p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>Dene</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<meneame:comment_id>24636466</meneame:comment_id>
		<meneame:link_id>2969619</meneame:link_id>
		<meneame:order>10</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>--443967--</meneame:user>
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		<meneame:karma>7</meneame:karma>
		<meneame:url>https://www.meneame.net/story/machistas-del-bikini</meneame:url>
		<title>#10 Las machistas del bikini</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/machistas-del-bikini/c010#c-10</link>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Jun 2018 12:21:07 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>--443967--</dc:creator>
		<guid>https://www.meneame.net/story/machistas-del-bikini/c010#c-10</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[<p><a class="tooltip c:2969619-9" href="https://www.meneame.net/story/machistas-del-bikini/c09#c-9" rel="nofollow">#9</a> ¡Intelectual!</p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>--443967--</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<meneame:comment_id>24636259</meneame:comment_id>
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		<meneame:order>9</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>Dene</meneame:user>
		<meneame:votes>0</meneame:votes>
		<meneame:karma>11</meneame:karma>
		<meneame:url>https://www.meneame.net/story/machistas-del-bikini</meneame:url>
		<title>#9 Las machistas del bikini</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/machistas-del-bikini/c09#c-9</link>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Jun 2018 11:58:49 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Dene</dc:creator>
		<guid>https://www.meneame.net/story/machistas-del-bikini/c09#c-9</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[<p><a class="tooltip c:2969619-2" href="https://www.meneame.net/story/machistas-del-bikini/c02#c-2" rel="nofollow">#2</a> mas bien en sicilia</p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>Dene</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<meneame:comment_id>24636194</meneame:comment_id>
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		<meneame:order>8</meneame:order>
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		<meneame:url>https://www.meneame.net/story/machistas-del-bikini</meneame:url>
		<title>#8 Las machistas del bikini</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/machistas-del-bikini/c08#c-8</link>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Jun 2018 11:53:28 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>--443967--</dc:creator>
		<guid>https://www.meneame.net/story/machistas-del-bikini/c08#c-8</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[<p><a class="tooltip c:2969619-7" href="https://www.meneame.net/story/machistas-del-bikini/c07#c-7" rel="nofollow">#7</a> ¡Y nosotras!</p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>--443967--</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<meneame:comment_id>24636179</meneame:comment_id>
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		<meneame:order>7</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>--32547--</meneame:user>
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		<meneame:karma>27</meneame:karma>
		<meneame:url>https://www.meneame.net/story/machistas-del-bikini</meneame:url>
		<title>#7 Las machistas del bikini</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/machistas-del-bikini/c07#c-7</link>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Jun 2018 11:51:34 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>--32547--</dc:creator>
		<guid>https://www.meneame.net/story/machistas-del-bikini/c07#c-7</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[<p><a class="tooltip c:2969619-2" href="https://www.meneame.net/story/machistas-del-bikini/c02#c-2" rel="nofollow">#2</a> Sí, pero aparte del bikini, ¿qué han hecho los romanos por nosotros?</p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>--32547--</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<meneame:comment_id>24636082</meneame:comment_id>
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		<meneame:order>6</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>Unsiquiatra123</meneame:user>
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		<title>#6 Las machistas del bikini</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/machistas-del-bikini/c06#c-6</link>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Jun 2018 11:42:21 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Unsiquiatra123</dc:creator>
		<guid>https://www.meneame.net/story/machistas-del-bikini/c06#c-6</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[<p>Joder me lo he leído entero y la verdad es que es un cacao de la leche.<br />
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Con tal de decir que hay que estar abiertos al diálogo comienza a hablar mal y bien de todo hasta el punto en el que uno no sabe que es lo que opina la escritora exactamente.<br />
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Me llama la atención que en dos casos donde la veo comentar su opinión ya una no estoy de acuerdo.<br />
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En que lo de los bikinis eran antiguamente una lucha contra el machismo y ahora parece lo contrario estoy con ella. Es que llegamos a unos niveles absurdos.<br />
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En cuanto a que cuando la publicidad es sexista es mala  pero cuando ponen a unas mujeres en traje encima de un grupo de hombres desnudos le parece parte de la lucha, me parece gravemente mal. Eso se llama ley del talión y nunca estaré de acuerdo con ese proceder.<br />
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En el resto básicamente lo que entiendo es que hay que mantenerse abierta a dialogar, aunque no sé si con todo el mundo o sólo con las mujeres que opinen distinto.</p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>Unsiquiatra123</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<title>#5 Las machistas del bikini</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/machistas-del-bikini/c05#c-5</link>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Jun 2018 11:07:05 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>--583024--</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[<p>[Usuario deshabilitado]</p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>--583024--</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<meneame:comment_id>24635708</meneame:comment_id>
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		<title>#4 Las machistas del bikini</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/machistas-del-bikini/c04#c-4</link>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Jun 2018 11:05:53 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>--489417--</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[<p><a class="tooltip c:2969619-2" href="https://www.meneame.net/story/machistas-del-bikini/c02#c-2" rel="nofollow">#2</a> Lo que se conoce como Romachismo <img data-src="https://cdn.mnmstatic.net/v_149/img/menemojis/36/roll.gif" alt=":roll:" title=":roll:" width="18" height="18" src="https://cdn.mnmstatic.net/v_149/img/g.gif" class="emoji lazy" /></p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>--489417--</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<title>#3 Las machistas del bikini</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/machistas-del-bikini/c03#c-3</link>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Jun 2018 11:03:27 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>--54026--</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[<p>[Usuario deshabilitado]</p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>--54026--</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<title>#2 Las machistas del bikini</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/machistas-del-bikini/c02#c-2</link>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Jun 2018 10:59:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<guid>https://www.meneame.net/story/machistas-del-bikini/c02#c-2</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[<p>El bikini lo inventaron en Roma.</p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>--443967--</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<meneame:comment_id>24635641</meneame:comment_id>
		<meneame:link_id>2969619</meneame:link_id>
		<meneame:order>1</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>--11417--</meneame:user>
		<meneame:votes>1</meneame:votes>
		<meneame:karma>27</meneame:karma>
		<meneame:url>https://www.meneame.net/story/machistas-del-bikini</meneame:url>
		<title>#1 Las machistas del bikini</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/machistas-del-bikini/c01#c-1</link>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Jun 2018 10:59:20 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>--11417--</dc:creator>
		<guid>https://www.meneame.net/story/machistas-del-bikini/c01#c-1</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[<p>Sin foto no se que decir</p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>--11417--</strong></p>]]></description>
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