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		<meneame:user>estemenda</meneame:user>
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		<title>#54 El rayo tractor sónico</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/rayo-tractor-sonico/c054#c-54</link>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Jun 2018 17:07:43 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>estemenda</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[<p>Mola, yo quiero que lo haga con un huevo de gallina <img data-src="https://cdn.mnmstatic.net/v_149/img/menemojis/36/takemymoney.png" alt=":take:" title=":take:" width="29" height="18" src="https://cdn.mnmstatic.net/v_149/img/g.gif" class="emoji lazy" /></p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>estemenda</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<meneame:comment_id>24585831</meneame:comment_id>
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		<title>#53 El rayo tractor sónico</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/rayo-tractor-sonico/c053#c-53</link>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Jun 2018 15:41:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[<p><a class="tooltip c:2965688-2" href="https://www.meneame.net/story/rayo-tractor-sonico/c02#c-2" rel="nofollow">#2</a> Zidanes y pavones? <img data-src="https://cdn.mnmstatic.net/v_149/img/menemojis/36/palm.png" alt=":palm:" title=":palm:" width="18" height="18" src="https://cdn.mnmstatic.net/v_149/img/g.gif" class="emoji lazy" /></p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>--149313--</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<meneame:comment_id>24582473</meneame:comment_id>
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		<meneame:order>52</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>lolerman</meneame:user>
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		<title>#52 El rayo tractor sónico</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/rayo-tractor-sonico/c052#c-52</link>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Jun 2018 09:17:36 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>lolerman</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[<p><a class="tooltip c:2965688-50" href="https://www.meneame.net/story/rayo-tractor-sonico/c050#c-50" rel="nofollow">#50</a> Yo no se en que se basa su tesis ni discuto su doctorado. Yo solo hablo del video, y el resultado de lo que se consigue/muestra en el video no es nuevo. Lo demás lo dices tu, que como has demostrado en comentarios anteriores no tienes ni idea de lo que es (diciendo que 'vence' la gravedad'). De hecho el título es erróneo ya que de 'tractor' no tiene nada ya que no puedes definir distancias ni mover un objeto dentro del campo de acción. Simplemente es levitación sónica, que de hecho al ser sónica no vale para objetos de mayor masa que microgramos. Todos los ejemplos de levitación sonica se ven con gotitas o bolitas de poliexpan, algo muy poco util.<br />
<br />
Igual la 'novedad' consiste en hacerlo con una matriz parabólica en lugar de usar reflectores o emisores en el lado opuesto.<br />
<br />
En fin, antes de discutir mejor leer.</p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>lolerman</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<meneame:user>cawentó</meneame:user>
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		<title>#51 El rayo tractor sónico</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/rayo-tractor-sonico/c051#c-51</link>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Jun 2018 08:58:04 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>cawentó</dc:creator>
		<guid>https://www.meneame.net/story/rayo-tractor-sonico/c051#c-51</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[<p>Me encanta Andy Kaufman, no sabía que seguía vivo y que se dedicara a la ciencia <img data-src="https://cdn.mnmstatic.net/v_149/img/menemojis/36/shit.png" alt=":shit:" title=":shit:" width="18" height="18" src="https://cdn.mnmstatic.net/v_149/img/g.gif" class="emoji lazy" /></p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>cawentó</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<meneame:comment_id>24581663</meneame:comment_id>
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		<title>#50 El rayo tractor sónico</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/rayo-tractor-sonico/c050#c-50</link>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Jun 2018 07:41:02 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>swappen</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[<p><a class="tooltip c:2965688-49" href="https://www.meneame.net/story/rayo-tractor-sonico/c049#c-49" rel="nofollow">#49</a> Como digo yo: SÍ ES ALGO NUEVO. <br />
<br />
A ver si de esta vez se entiende: <br />
<br />
1º) NO SE PUEDE HACER UNA TESIS DOCTORAL SIN APORTAR CONTRIBUCIONES ORIGINALES.<br />
<br />
2º) La tesis está sustentada sobre la publicación de varios artículos científicos de impacto. Cuando mandas un paper a un revista, lo primero que deben comprobar cada de uno de los referees es que el material es inédito. Si no lo es, el paper es automáticamente rechazado. ¿Todos los referees de todos los papers que ha publicado este hombre (que son expertos en la materia) han sido tan lerdos de no encontrar que &#34;eso ya estaba inventado&#34;? ¿Los editores de la revista tampoco lo han visto? Anda hombre...</p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>swappen</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<meneame:comment_id>24581416</meneame:comment_id>
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		<meneame:order>49</meneame:order>
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		<title>#49 El rayo tractor sónico</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/rayo-tractor-sonico/c049#c-49</link>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Jun 2018 07:03:24 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>lolerman</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[<p><a class="tooltip c:2965688-12" href="https://www.meneame.net/story/rayo-tractor-sonico/c012#c-12" rel="nofollow">#12</a> <i>La levitación del cacharro que pones se da porque el foco del sonido apunta hacia arriba contrarrestando justo la fuerza de la gravedad.</i> No.<br />
<br />
La levitación se produce en la coincidencia o cruce de ondas ultrasonicas. Por eso funciona o con dos focos opuestos o con una parabólica, y solo se puede levitar en un cruce armónico, ni antes ni después.<br />
<br />
Como dice <a class="tooltip c:2965688-10" href="https://www.meneame.net/story/rayo-tractor-sonico/c010#c-10" rel="nofollow">#10</a>, no es nada nuevo: <a href="https://mattbdreaming.wordpress.com/3d-acoustic-levitation-printing/" title="mattbdreaming.wordpress.com/3d-acoustic-levitation-printing/" rel="nofollow">mattbdreaming.wordpress.com/3d-acoustic-levitation-printing/</a><br />
<br />
Y se puede comprar: <a href="https://www.tindie.com/products/Makerfabs/acoustic-levitator-kit/" title="www.tindie.com/products/Makerfabs/acoustic-levitator-kit/" rel="nofollow">www.tindie.com/products/Makerfabs/acoustic-levitator-kit/</a></p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>lolerman</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<title>#48 El rayo tractor sónico</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/rayo-tractor-sonico/c048#c-48</link>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Jun 2018 06:50:15 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>fjcm_xx</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[<p><a class="tooltip c:2965688-2" href="https://www.meneame.net/story/rayo-tractor-sonico/c02#c-2" rel="nofollow">#2</a> Pedro Duque, a por ellos, oeeeeee.</p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>fjcm_xx</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<meneame:comment_id>24581322</meneame:comment_id>
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		<meneame:user>acastro</meneame:user>
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		<title>#47 El rayo tractor sónico</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/rayo-tractor-sonico/c047#c-47</link>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Jun 2018 06:49:07 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>acastro</dc:creator>
		<guid>https://www.meneame.net/story/rayo-tractor-sonico/c047#c-47</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[<p>Muy impactante por su novedad pero lo explica bastante bien. Es flipante.<br />
Toda tecnología lo suficientemente avanzada es indistinguible de la magia (Arthur C. Clarke)</p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>acastro</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<meneame:comment_id>24580963</meneame:comment_id>
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		<title>#46 El rayo tractor sónico</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/rayo-tractor-sonico/c046#c-46</link>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Jun 2018 05:30:06 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>--405202--</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[<p>[Usuario deshabilitado]</p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>--405202--</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<meneame:comment_id>24580709</meneame:comment_id>
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		<meneame:user>luiggi</meneame:user>
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		<title>#45 El rayo tractor sónico</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/rayo-tractor-sonico/c045#c-45</link>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Jun 2018 00:40:03 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>luiggi</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[<p><a class="tooltip c:2965688-41" href="https://www.meneame.net/story/rayo-tractor-sonico/c041#c-41" rel="nofollow">#41</a> muy interesante experimento</p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>luiggi</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<title>#44 El rayo tractor sónico</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/rayo-tractor-sonico/c044#c-44</link>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Jun 2018 00:15:06 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>darkdead4</dc:creator>
		<guid>https://www.meneame.net/story/rayo-tractor-sonico/c044#c-44</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[<p><a class="tooltip c:2965688-42" href="https://www.meneame.net/story/rayo-tractor-sonico/c042#c-42" rel="nofollow">#42</a> Si si al chaval les saca trabajo en el futuro mejor para el.</p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>darkdead4</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<meneame:user>darkdead4</meneame:user>
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		<title>#43 El rayo tractor sónico</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/rayo-tractor-sonico/c043#c-43</link>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Jun 2018 00:03:57 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>darkdead4</dc:creator>
		<guid>https://www.meneame.net/story/rayo-tractor-sonico/c043#c-43</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[<p><a class="tooltip c:2965688-37" href="https://www.meneame.net/story/rayo-tractor-sonico/c037#c-37" rel="nofollow">#37</a> Que ya me di cuenta o no viste el positivo tu has visto algún negativo señor gatillo fácil</p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>darkdead4</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<meneame:comment_id>24580676</meneame:comment_id>
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		<meneame:user>swappen</meneame:user>
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		<title>#42 El rayo tractor sónico</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/rayo-tractor-sonico/c042#c-42</link>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Jun 2018 00:03:40 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>swappen</dc:creator>
		<guid>https://www.meneame.net/story/rayo-tractor-sonico/c042#c-42</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[<p><a class="tooltip c:2965688-39" href="https://www.meneame.net/story/rayo-tractor-sonico/c039#c-39" rel="nofollow">#39</a> Jeje, pueden hacerlo, las tesis en cotutela equivalen a hacer la tesis en las dos universidades. En los papers hay investigadores de ambas universidades. Y para el autor, cuanta más publicidad mejor.</p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>swappen</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<title>#41 El rayo tractor sónico</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/rayo-tractor-sonico/c041#c-41</link>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Jun 2018 00:00:53 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>EmuAGR</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[<p><a class="tooltip c:2965688-20" href="https://www.meneame.net/story/rayo-tractor-sonico/c020#c-20" rel="nofollow">#20</a> Lo puedes hacer en un editor de sonido tú mismo en tu casa: Pilla una canción que tenga versión karaoke, pon ambas pistas sincronizadas en el editor, invierte la onda de la versión karaoke y dale al <i>play</i>. Ahora tienes la voz cantando sin la música de fondo.<br />
<br />
Al invertir una onda y sumarla lo que haces es <i>restar</i> la onda. Como resto quedan las diferencias entre una y otra, es decir, ¡la voz sola! <img data-src="https://cdn.mnmstatic.net/v_149/img/menemojis/36/grin.png" alt=":-D" title=":-D" width="18" height="18" src="https://cdn.mnmstatic.net/v_149/img/g.gif" class="emoji lazy" /></p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>EmuAGR</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<title>#40 El rayo tractor sónico</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Jun 2018 23:58:37 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>--542333--</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[<p>[Usuario deshabilitado]</p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>--542333--</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<title>#39 El rayo tractor sónico</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Jun 2018 23:58:19 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>darkdead4</dc:creator>
		<guid>https://www.meneame.net/story/rayo-tractor-sonico/c039#c-39</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[<p><a class="tooltip c:2965688-36" href="https://www.meneame.net/story/rayo-tractor-sonico/c036#c-36" rel="nofollow">#36</a> Pues que rápido los de bristol se adjudican el tanto....</p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>darkdead4</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<meneame:comment_id>24580660</meneame:comment_id>
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		<meneame:order>38</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>--542333--</meneame:user>
		<meneame:votes>1</meneame:votes>
		<meneame:karma>10</meneame:karma>
		<meneame:url>https://www.meneame.net/story/rayo-tractor-sonico</meneame:url>
		<title>#38 El rayo tractor sónico</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/rayo-tractor-sonico/c038#c-38</link>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Jun 2018 23:55:16 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>--542333--</dc:creator>
		<guid>https://www.meneame.net/story/rayo-tractor-sonico/c038#c-38</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[<p>[Usuario deshabilitado]</p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>--542333--</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<meneame:comment_id>24580659</meneame:comment_id>
		<meneame:link_id>2965688</meneame:link_id>
		<meneame:order>37</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>EmuAGR</meneame:user>
		<meneame:votes>3</meneame:votes>
		<meneame:karma>31</meneame:karma>
		<meneame:url>https://www.meneame.net/story/rayo-tractor-sonico</meneame:url>
		<title>#37 El rayo tractor sónico</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/rayo-tractor-sonico/c037#c-37</link>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Jun 2018 23:55:09 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>EmuAGR</dc:creator>
		<guid>https://www.meneame.net/story/rayo-tractor-sonico/c037#c-37</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[<p><a class="tooltip c:2965688-34" href="https://www.meneame.net/story/rayo-tractor-sonico/c034#c-34" rel="nofollow">#34</a> Ese vídeo tiene de imagen al mismo muchacho que aparece en este vídeo. Cómo nos gusta a los españoles el <i>malinchismo</i> en vez de apoyar a nuestros científicos. Encima te lo avisan y en vez de retractarte te reafirmas, lee <a class="tooltip c:2965688-29" href="https://www.meneame.net/story/rayo-tractor-sonico/c029#c-29" rel="nofollow">#29</a> .</p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>EmuAGR</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<meneame:comment_id>24580647</meneame:comment_id>
		<meneame:link_id>2965688</meneame:link_id>
		<meneame:order>36</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>swappen</meneame:user>
		<meneame:votes>2</meneame:votes>
		<meneame:karma>27</meneame:karma>
		<meneame:url>https://www.meneame.net/story/rayo-tractor-sonico</meneame:url>
		<title>#36 El rayo tractor sónico</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/rayo-tractor-sonico/c036#c-36</link>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Jun 2018 23:47:47 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>swappen</dc:creator>
		<guid>https://www.meneame.net/story/rayo-tractor-sonico/c036#c-36</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[<p><a class="tooltip c:2965688-34" href="https://www.meneame.net/story/rayo-tractor-sonico/c034#c-34" rel="nofollow">#34</a> Si te fijas, el primer autor del paper que dices es el chaval del vídeo del envío (es el mismo en ambos vídeos). La tesis es cotutelada por la Universidad de Navarra y la de Bristol. Las cutradas de las que hablas son comunes en prototipos, sobre todo cuando el área del grupo no es la electrónica o afín. Estuve trabajando en un centro de robótica de cierto prestigio en Francia y me llamó la atención que para el control usaran arduinos churripuercos y no electrónica dedicada. Al final, con los prototipos sólo se busca testear la idea, ya habrá tiempo para &#34;hacerlo bien&#34; en próximas versiones. No soy informático, soy ingeniero en telecomunicaciones, ingeniero en electrónica y doctor en ingenieria mecatrónica.</p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>swappen</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<meneame:comment_id>24580642</meneame:comment_id>
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		<meneame:order>35</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>EmuAGR</meneame:user>
		<meneame:votes>2</meneame:votes>
		<meneame:karma>37</meneame:karma>
		<meneame:url>https://www.meneame.net/story/rayo-tractor-sonico</meneame:url>
		<title>#35 El rayo tractor sónico</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/rayo-tractor-sonico/c035#c-35</link>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Jun 2018 23:46:22 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>EmuAGR</dc:creator>
		<guid>https://www.meneame.net/story/rayo-tractor-sonico/c035#c-35</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[<p><a class="tooltip c:2965688-13" href="https://www.meneame.net/story/rayo-tractor-sonico/c013#c-13" rel="nofollow">#13</a> Como indica <a class="tooltip c:2965688-19" href="https://www.meneame.net/story/rayo-tractor-sonico/c019#c-19" rel="nofollow">#19</a> , la fusión nucelar se produce en el vacío (cómo vas a fusionar átomos si tienes otros entre medias estorbando a los que quieres fusionar), y por el vacío no viaja el sonido.</p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>EmuAGR</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<meneame:comment_id>24580624</meneame:comment_id>
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		<meneame:order>34</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>darkdead4</meneame:user>
		<meneame:votes>2</meneame:votes>
		<meneame:karma>-3</meneame:karma>
		<meneame:url>https://www.meneame.net/story/rayo-tractor-sonico</meneame:url>
		<title>#34 El rayo tractor sónico</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/rayo-tractor-sonico/c034#c-34</link>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Jun 2018 23:37:21 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>darkdead4</dc:creator>
		<guid>https://www.meneame.net/story/rayo-tractor-sonico/c034#c-34</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[<p><a class="tooltip c:2965688-32" href="https://www.meneame.net/story/rayo-tractor-sonico/c032#c-32" rel="nofollow">#32</a> Pues ese es de la uni de bristol y tiene su propio paper publicado.<br />
Los informáticos dais grima cableando prototipos el de bristol con DC to Dc chino de mierdas y parece que no hay ajuste impedancias o nulo el los transductores y eso suele ser un 30% en perdidas la puta coña.</p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>darkdead4</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<meneame:comment_id>24580608</meneame:comment_id>
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		<meneame:order>33</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>swappen</meneame:user>
		<meneame:votes>1</meneame:votes>
		<meneame:karma>20</meneame:karma>
		<meneame:url>https://www.meneame.net/story/rayo-tractor-sonico</meneame:url>
		<title>#33 El rayo tractor sónico</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/rayo-tractor-sonico/c033#c-33</link>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Jun 2018 23:26:22 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>swappen</dc:creator>
		<guid>https://www.meneame.net/story/rayo-tractor-sonico/c033#c-33</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[<p><a class="tooltip c:2965688-28" href="https://www.meneame.net/story/rayo-tractor-sonico/c028#c-28" rel="nofollow">#28</a> No conozco al del vídeo, pero también sudé lo mío haciendo una tesis, admiro lo que ha hecho, reconozco su trabajo y, por eso, me tocan la moral ciertas cosas.</p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>swappen</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<meneame:comment_id>24580588</meneame:comment_id>
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		<meneame:order>32</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>swappen</meneame:user>
		<meneame:votes>4</meneame:votes>
		<meneame:karma>39</meneame:karma>
		<meneame:url>https://www.meneame.net/story/rayo-tractor-sonico</meneame:url>
		<title>#32 El rayo tractor sónico</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/rayo-tractor-sonico/c032#c-32</link>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Jun 2018 23:15:43 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>swappen</dc:creator>
		<guid>https://www.meneame.net/story/rayo-tractor-sonico/c032#c-32</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[<p><a class="tooltip c:2965688-27" href="https://www.meneame.net/story/rayo-tractor-sonico/c027#c-27" rel="nofollow">#27</a> Sólo por descartar, sabes que el del vídeo que enlazas es la misma persona del vídeo del envío y es un video grabado durante el desarrollo de la tesis, ¿verdad? Hace un rato un amigo me pasó ese video pensando que era de otro grupo.</p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>swappen</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<meneame:comment_id>24580576</meneame:comment_id>
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		<meneame:order>31</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>Varlak</meneame:user>
		<meneame:votes>0</meneame:votes>
		<meneame:karma>7</meneame:karma>
		<meneame:url>https://www.meneame.net/story/rayo-tractor-sonico</meneame:url>
		<title>#31 El rayo tractor sónico</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/rayo-tractor-sonico/c031#c-31</link>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Jun 2018 23:10:49 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Varlak</dc:creator>
		<guid>https://www.meneame.net/story/rayo-tractor-sonico/c031#c-31</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[<p><a class="tooltip c:2965688-20" href="https://www.meneame.net/story/rayo-tractor-sonico/c020#c-20" rel="nofollow">#20</a> creo que todo lo que escribió Asimov es ciencia ficción dura, es decir, absolutamente todo es posible según el conocimiento de la física (al menos la de aquel entonces)<br />
<br />
Edit: Incluso la Tiotimolina resublimada, que si me preguntas creo que fué su idea más loca (técnicamente) no rompe ninguna ley de la física.<br />
<a href="https://www.esepuntoazulpalido.com/2013/01/la-quimica-en-la-ciencia-ficcion-isaac.html" title="www.esepuntoazulpalido.com/2013/01/la-quimica-en-la-ciencia-ficcion-isaac.html" rel="nofollow">www.esepuntoazulpalido.com/2013/01/la-quimica-en-la-ciencia-ficcion-is</a><br />
<a href="https://sisoyyomismo.files.wordpress.com/2009/11/i-a-las-propiedades-endocronicas-de-la-tiotimolina-resublimada1.pdf" title="sisoyyomismo.files.wordpress.com/2009/11/i-a-las-propiedades-endocronicas-de-la-tiotimolina-resublimada1.pdf" rel="nofollow">sisoyyomismo.files.wordpress.com/2009/11/i-a-las-propiedades-endocroni</a></p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>Varlak</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<meneame:user>arrestenbrinker</meneame:user>
		<meneame:votes>2</meneame:votes>
		<meneame:karma>20</meneame:karma>
		<meneame:url>https://www.meneame.net/story/rayo-tractor-sonico</meneame:url>
		<title>#30 El rayo tractor sónico</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/rayo-tractor-sonico/c030#c-30</link>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Jun 2018 23:05:34 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>arrestenbrinker</dc:creator>
		<guid>https://www.meneame.net/story/rayo-tractor-sonico/c030#c-30</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[<p>Alucinante, esto es ciencia!<br />
<br />
Cabe decir que al principio me ha parecido un video en el estilo de los &#34;Vengamonjas&#34;. Los planos, el tono de la voz y la forma de narrar ...</p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>arrestenbrinker</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<meneame:order>29</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>swappen</meneame:user>
		<meneame:votes>2</meneame:votes>
		<meneame:karma>23</meneame:karma>
		<meneame:url>https://www.meneame.net/story/rayo-tractor-sonico</meneame:url>
		<title>#29 El rayo tractor sónico</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/rayo-tractor-sonico/c029#c-29</link>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Jun 2018 23:02:43 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>swappen</dc:creator>
		<guid>https://www.meneame.net/story/rayo-tractor-sonico/c029#c-29</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[<p><a class="tooltip c:2965688-26" href="https://www.meneame.net/story/rayo-tractor-sonico/c026#c-26" rel="nofollow">#26</a> A ver, alma de cántaro. Cuando durante tu tesis has producido al menos tres artículos científicos de impacto, segun el RD 99/2011, no estás obligado a hacer una monografía sino que te vale con introducir cada artículo y enlazar uno con el siguiente. Se llama tesis por compendio de publicaciones (lo he dicho en el comentario al que te refieres). Claro que la memoria es un compendio de artículos: de artículos suyos.<br />
<br />
Vamos, es que no sé qué carajo os pensáis que se hace en una tesis. Si no hay algo inédito, no tiene sentido.<br />
<br />
<a class="tooltip c:2965688-17" href="https://www.meneame.net/story/rayo-tractor-sonico/c017#c-17" rel="nofollow">#17</a> Quillo, que no hay na que me de más coraje que un cuñao sobrao pasao de Dunning-Kruger <img data-src="https://cdn.mnmstatic.net/v_149/img/menemojis/36/tongue.png" alt=":-P" title=":-P" width="18" height="18" src="https://cdn.mnmstatic.net/v_149/img/g.gif" class="emoji lazy" /></p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>swappen</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<meneame:order>28</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>pitger</meneame:user>
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		<title>#28 El rayo tractor sónico</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/rayo-tractor-sonico/c028#c-28</link>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Jun 2018 22:55:24 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>pitger</dc:creator>
		<guid>https://www.meneame.net/story/rayo-tractor-sonico/c028#c-28</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[<p><a class="tooltip c:2965688-17" href="https://www.meneame.net/story/rayo-tractor-sonico/c017#c-17" rel="nofollow">#17</a> jejeeje, ya ves... algunas personas las compran y punto.<br />
<br />
Tampoco te vayas a rasgar las vestiduras ahora, que va a parecer que eres el del video o alguien cercano haciéndole publicidad (y eso, antes al menos, aquí en menéame era muy mal visto).</p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>pitger</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<meneame:user>darkdead4</meneame:user>
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		<meneame:karma>4</meneame:karma>
		<meneame:url>https://www.meneame.net/story/rayo-tractor-sonico</meneame:url>
		<title>#27 El rayo tractor sónico</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/rayo-tractor-sonico/c027#c-27</link>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Jun 2018 22:51:42 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>darkdead4</dc:creator>
		<guid>https://www.meneame.net/story/rayo-tractor-sonico/c027#c-27</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[<p><a class="tooltip c:2965688-17" href="https://www.meneame.net/story/rayo-tractor-sonico/c017#c-17" rel="nofollow">#17</a> &#34;ted. Here, for the first time we show full acoustic <br />
trapping, translation and rotation of levitated particles using a single<br />
-<br />
sided phased array. Our <br />
approach  creates  optimum  traps  at  the  target  positions  for <br />
any  spatial  arrangement  and <br />
significantly enhances previous manipulators&#34;<br />
<a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6YV0lou4L4c" title="www.youtube.com/watch?v=6YV0lou4L4c" rel="nofollow">www.youtube.com/watch?v=6YV0lou4L4c</a><br />
2013<br />
Que no a inventado ni creado nada nuevo sobre vórtices con ondas sonoras de baja y alta frecuencia y su video mezcla términos como para darle de collejas.</p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>darkdead4</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<meneame:link_id>2965688</meneame:link_id>
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		<meneame:user>Varlak</meneame:user>
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		<meneame:karma>7</meneame:karma>
		<meneame:url>https://www.meneame.net/story/rayo-tractor-sonico</meneame:url>
		<title>#26 El rayo tractor sónico</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/rayo-tractor-sonico/c026#c-26</link>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Jun 2018 22:50:50 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Varlak</dc:creator>
		<guid>https://www.meneame.net/story/rayo-tractor-sonico/c026#c-26</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[<p><a class="tooltip c:2965688-17" href="https://www.meneame.net/story/rayo-tractor-sonico/c017#c-17" rel="nofollow">#17</a> edit</p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>Varlak</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<meneame:user>pitger</meneame:user>
		<meneame:votes>1</meneame:votes>
		<meneame:karma>14</meneame:karma>
		<meneame:url>https://www.meneame.net/story/rayo-tractor-sonico</meneame:url>
		<title>#25 El rayo tractor sónico</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/rayo-tractor-sonico/c025#c-25</link>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Jun 2018 22:50:19 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>pitger</dc:creator>
		<guid>https://www.meneame.net/story/rayo-tractor-sonico/c025#c-25</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[<p><a class="tooltip c:2965688-7" href="https://www.meneame.net/story/rayo-tractor-sonico/c07#c-7" rel="nofollow">#7</a> de todas formas es que aquí no se le debe haber dado la debida difusión.<br />
Los de Bristol si le han dado mas vida...este video llega a los 500k casi.<br />
<br />
<a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6YV0lou4L4c" title="www.youtube.com/watch?v=6YV0lou4L4c" rel="nofollow">www.youtube.com/watch?v=6YV0lou4L4c</a></p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>pitger</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<meneame:user>swappen</meneame:user>
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		<meneame:url>https://www.meneame.net/story/rayo-tractor-sonico</meneame:url>
		<title>#24 El rayo tractor sónico</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/rayo-tractor-sonico/c024#c-24</link>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Jun 2018 22:49:21 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>swappen</dc:creator>
		<guid>https://www.meneame.net/story/rayo-tractor-sonico/c024#c-24</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[<p><a class="tooltip c:2965688-20" href="https://www.meneame.net/story/rayo-tractor-sonico/c020#c-20" rel="nofollow">#20</a> Eso se llama interferencia destructiva (realmente tiene que ver con el desfase entre ondas, no con la frecuencia).</p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>swappen</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<meneame:comment_id>24580466</meneame:comment_id>
		<meneame:link_id>2965688</meneame:link_id>
		<meneame:order>23</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>papatango</meneame:user>
		<meneame:votes>0</meneame:votes>
		<meneame:karma>6</meneame:karma>
		<meneame:url>https://www.meneame.net/story/rayo-tractor-sonico</meneame:url>
		<title>#23 El rayo tractor sónico</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/rayo-tractor-sonico/c023#c-23</link>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Jun 2018 22:45:10 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>papatango</dc:creator>
		<guid>https://www.meneame.net/story/rayo-tractor-sonico/c023#c-23</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[<p>Imagina las posibilidades</p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>papatango</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<meneame:comment_id>24580447</meneame:comment_id>
		<meneame:link_id>2965688</meneame:link_id>
		<meneame:order>22</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>pitger</meneame:user>
		<meneame:votes>0</meneame:votes>
		<meneame:karma>6</meneame:karma>
		<meneame:url>https://www.meneame.net/story/rayo-tractor-sonico</meneame:url>
		<title>#22 El rayo tractor sónico</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/rayo-tractor-sonico/c022#c-22</link>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Jun 2018 22:39:50 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>pitger</dc:creator>
		<guid>https://www.meneame.net/story/rayo-tractor-sonico/c022#c-22</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[<p><a class="tooltip c:2965688-13" href="https://www.meneame.net/story/rayo-tractor-sonico/c013#c-13" rel="nofollow">#13</a> posiblemente (seguramente diría yo) porque la masa que querrían fusionar es bastante mas pesada que lo que este dispositivo podría retener suspendido.</p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>pitger</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<meneame:comment_id>24580437</meneame:comment_id>
		<meneame:link_id>2965688</meneame:link_id>
		<meneame:order>21</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>pitger</meneame:user>
		<meneame:votes>2</meneame:votes>
		<meneame:karma>21</meneame:karma>
		<meneame:url>https://www.meneame.net/story/rayo-tractor-sonico</meneame:url>
		<title>#21 El rayo tractor sónico</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/rayo-tractor-sonico/c021#c-21</link>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Jun 2018 22:37:24 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>pitger</dc:creator>
		<guid>https://www.meneame.net/story/rayo-tractor-sonico/c021#c-21</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[<p><a class="tooltip c:2965688-7" href="https://www.meneame.net/story/rayo-tractor-sonico/c07#c-7" rel="nofollow">#7</a> y basado en una tecnología que surge en los años  1960's<br />
<a href="https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/richardhaberkern/soundlazer?lang=es" title="www.kickstarter.com/projects/richardhaberkern/soundlazer?lang=es" rel="nofollow">www.kickstarter.com/projects/richardhaberkern/soundlazer?lang=es</a></p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>pitger</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<meneame:comment_id>24580434</meneame:comment_id>
		<meneame:link_id>2965688</meneame:link_id>
		<meneame:order>20</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>luiggi</meneame:user>
		<meneame:votes>0</meneame:votes>
		<meneame:karma>10</meneame:karma>
		<meneame:url>https://www.meneame.net/story/rayo-tractor-sonico</meneame:url>
		<title>#20 El rayo tractor sónico</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/rayo-tractor-sonico/c020#c-20</link>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Jun 2018 22:36:43 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>luiggi</dc:creator>
		<guid>https://www.meneame.net/story/rayo-tractor-sonico/c020#c-20</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[<p>Este experimento me recuerda a ese otro que con la frecuencia inversa de un sonido, logra silenciarlo ... La primera vez lo leí en una novela de Asimov y pensé que era ficción.<br />
<a href="https://youtu.be/7YvwK9EGSk4" title="youtu.be/7YvwK9EGSk4" rel="nofollow">youtu.be/7YvwK9EGSk4</a></p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>luiggi</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<meneame:comment_id>24580424</meneame:comment_id>
		<meneame:link_id>2965688</meneame:link_id>
		<meneame:order>19</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>darkdead4</meneame:user>
		<meneame:votes>1</meneame:votes>
		<meneame:karma>14</meneame:karma>
		<meneame:url>https://www.meneame.net/story/rayo-tractor-sonico</meneame:url>
		<title>#19 El rayo tractor sónico</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/rayo-tractor-sonico/c019#c-19</link>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Jun 2018 22:33:13 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>darkdead4</dc:creator>
		<guid>https://www.meneame.net/story/rayo-tractor-sonico/c019#c-19</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[<p><a class="tooltip c:2965688-13" href="https://www.meneame.net/story/rayo-tractor-sonico/c013#c-13" rel="nofollow">#13</a> Los ultra sonidos y el vació no son compatibles se usan súper conductores y laser lo mas potentes posible por eso están intentado construir lasers de rayos X de alta potencia para ello.</p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>darkdead4</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<meneame:comment_id>24580420</meneame:comment_id>
		<meneame:link_id>2965688</meneame:link_id>
		<meneame:order>18</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>swappen</meneame:user>
		<meneame:votes>0</meneame:votes>
		<meneame:karma>17</meneame:karma>
		<meneame:url>https://www.meneame.net/story/rayo-tractor-sonico</meneame:url>
		<title>#18 El rayo tractor sónico</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/rayo-tractor-sonico/c018#c-18</link>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Jun 2018 22:31:56 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>swappen</dc:creator>
		<guid>https://www.meneame.net/story/rayo-tractor-sonico/c018#c-18</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[<p><a class="tooltip c:2965688-16" href="https://www.meneame.net/story/rayo-tractor-sonico/c016#c-16" rel="nofollow">#16</a> A mi ese video me gustaba más, envié este por estar en castellano.</p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>swappen</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<meneame:comment_id>24580409</meneame:comment_id>
		<meneame:link_id>2965688</meneame:link_id>
		<meneame:order>17</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>swappen</meneame:user>
		<meneame:votes>2</meneame:votes>
		<meneame:karma>39</meneame:karma>
		<meneame:url>https://www.meneame.net/story/rayo-tractor-sonico</meneame:url>
		<title>#17 El rayo tractor sónico</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/rayo-tractor-sonico/c017#c-17</link>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Jun 2018 22:29:08 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>swappen</dc:creator>
		<guid>https://www.meneame.net/story/rayo-tractor-sonico/c017#c-17</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[<p>Yo flipo con la peña y su amor propio. Como si el tío hubiera inventado una pollada un fin de semana. O no se sabe qué implica hacer una tesis doctoral o se es un poco cuñado. Por cierto, para los curiosos, aquí está la tesis, publicada por compendio de artículos: <a href="https://www.google.es/url?sa=t&#38;source=web&#38;rct=j&#38;url=https://academica-e.unavarra.es/bitstream/handle/2454/20849/Tesis%20Asier%20Marzo%20Marc%20Ag.pdf?sequence=1&isAllowed=y&#38;ved=0ahUKEwiRofCc1MzbAhUMasAKHZrNBKgQFggnMAA&#38;usg=AOvVaw0oRL8j41aEQphehzRLM5fn" title="www.google.es/url?sa=t&#38;source=web&#38;rct=j&#38;url=https://academica-e.unavarra.es/bitstream/handle/2454/20849/Tesis%20Asier%20Marzo%20Marc%20Ag.pdf?sequence=1&isAllowed=y&#38;ved=0ahUKEwiRofCc1MzbAhUMasAKHZrNBKgQFggnMAA&#38;usg=AOvVaw0oRL8j41aEQphehzRLM5fn" rel="nofollow">www.google.es/url?sa=t&#38;source=web&#38;rct=j&#38;url=https://academ</a></p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>swappen</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<meneame:comment_id>24580397</meneame:comment_id>
		<meneame:link_id>2965688</meneame:link_id>
		<meneame:order>16</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>woody_alien</meneame:user>
		<meneame:votes>3</meneame:votes>
		<meneame:karma>40</meneame:karma>
		<meneame:url>https://www.meneame.net/story/rayo-tractor-sonico</meneame:url>
		<title>#16 El rayo tractor sónico</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/rayo-tractor-sonico/c016#c-16</link>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Jun 2018 22:26:12 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>woody_alien</dc:creator>
		<guid>https://www.meneame.net/story/rayo-tractor-sonico/c016#c-16</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[<p><a class="tooltip c:2965688-12" href="https://www.meneame.net/story/rayo-tractor-sonico/c012#c-12" rel="nofollow">#12</a> hay millones de videos e instrucciones diferentes, este es el mismo sistema tractor, pero con las instrucciones de montaje y todo <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6YV0lou4L4c" title="www.youtube.com/watch?v=6YV0lou4L4c" rel="nofollow">www.youtube.com/watch?v=6YV0lou4L4c</a></p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>woody_alien</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<meneame:comment_id>24580393</meneame:comment_id>
		<meneame:link_id>2965688</meneame:link_id>
		<meneame:order>15</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>--405202--</meneame:user>
		<meneame:votes>2</meneame:votes>
		<meneame:karma>12</meneame:karma>
		<meneame:url>https://www.meneame.net/story/rayo-tractor-sonico</meneame:url>
		<title>#15 El rayo tractor sónico</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/rayo-tractor-sonico/c015#c-15</link>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Jun 2018 22:25:57 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>--405202--</dc:creator>
		<guid>https://www.meneame.net/story/rayo-tractor-sonico/c015#c-15</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[<p>[Usuario deshabilitado]</p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>--405202--</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<meneame:comment_id>24580381</meneame:comment_id>
		<meneame:link_id>2965688</meneame:link_id>
		<meneame:order>14</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>darkdead4</meneame:user>
		<meneame:votes>1</meneame:votes>
		<meneame:karma>14</meneame:karma>
		<meneame:url>https://www.meneame.net/story/rayo-tractor-sonico</meneame:url>
		<title>#14 El rayo tractor sónico</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/rayo-tractor-sonico/c014#c-14</link>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Jun 2018 22:21:35 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>darkdead4</dc:creator>
		<guid>https://www.meneame.net/story/rayo-tractor-sonico/c014#c-14</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[<p>El tío se le ve un poco perdido con radiación y ondas sonoras y no ha inventado nada que ya no se conozca sobre aplicaciones de baja media y alta potencia con ultrasonidos incluidos vortex.<br />
Lo mas avanzado es es uso de láser de femtosegundos para controlar átomos.</p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>darkdead4</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<meneame:comment_id>24580378</meneame:comment_id>
		<meneame:link_id>2965688</meneame:link_id>
		<meneame:order>13</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>snd</meneame:user>
		<meneame:votes>0</meneame:votes>
		<meneame:karma>6</meneame:karma>
		<meneame:url>https://www.meneame.net/story/rayo-tractor-sonico</meneame:url>
		<title>#13 El rayo tractor sónico</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/rayo-tractor-sonico/c013#c-13</link>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Jun 2018 22:20:42 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>snd</dc:creator>
		<guid>https://www.meneame.net/story/rayo-tractor-sonico/c013#c-13</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[<p>No parece muy complejo el invento, como dice el autor ya se hacía para empujar, ahora solo parece que se puede usar para atraer también. Lo que se me ha venido ahora a la mente... ¿por que no se usa para el material de reactores de fusión?</p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>snd</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<meneame:comment_id>24580361</meneame:comment_id>
		<meneame:link_id>2965688</meneame:link_id>
		<meneame:order>12</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>swappen</meneame:user>
		<meneame:votes>7</meneame:votes>
		<meneame:karma>58</meneame:karma>
		<meneame:url>https://www.meneame.net/story/rayo-tractor-sonico</meneame:url>
		<title>#12 El rayo tractor sónico</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/rayo-tractor-sonico/c012#c-12</link>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Jun 2018 22:15:54 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>swappen</dc:creator>
		<guid>https://www.meneame.net/story/rayo-tractor-sonico/c012#c-12</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[<p><a class="tooltip c:2965688-10" href="https://www.meneame.net/story/rayo-tractor-sonico/c010#c-10" rel="nofollow">#10</a> Si no es un estudio original, si no está aportando nada, no puede ser objeto de un Proyecto de Tesis Doctoral (por muchas semejanzas que haya con prototipos o dispositivos previos).<br />
<br />
Por cierto, eso que enlazas de basa en usar el sonido para empujar cosas (algo que el doctor del vídeo dice al principio que ya existía). La levitación del cacharro que pones se da porque el foco del sonido apunta hacia arriba contrarrestando justo la fuerza de la gravedad. No hay más.</p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>swappen</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<meneame:comment_id>24580334</meneame:comment_id>
		<meneame:link_id>2965688</meneame:link_id>
		<meneame:order>11</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>swappen</meneame:user>
		<meneame:votes>1</meneame:votes>
		<meneame:karma>24</meneame:karma>
		<meneame:url>https://www.meneame.net/story/rayo-tractor-sonico</meneame:url>
		<title>#11 El rayo tractor sónico</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/rayo-tractor-sonico/c011#c-11</link>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Jun 2018 22:10:02 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>swappen</dc:creator>
		<guid>https://www.meneame.net/story/rayo-tractor-sonico/c011#c-11</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[<p><a class="tooltip c:2965688-7" href="https://www.meneame.net/story/rayo-tractor-sonico/c07#c-7" rel="nofollow">#7</a> Yo también me lo he preguntado...</p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>swappen</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<meneame:comment_id>24580331</meneame:comment_id>
		<meneame:link_id>2965688</meneame:link_id>
		<meneame:order>10</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>--405202--</meneame:user>
		<meneame:votes>3</meneame:votes>
		<meneame:karma>5</meneame:karma>
		<meneame:url>https://www.meneame.net/story/rayo-tractor-sonico</meneame:url>
		<title>#10 El rayo tractor sónico</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/rayo-tractor-sonico/c010#c-10</link>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Jun 2018 22:08:53 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>--405202--</dc:creator>
		<guid>https://www.meneame.net/story/rayo-tractor-sonico/c010#c-10</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[<p>[Usuario deshabilitado]</p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>--405202--</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<meneame:comment_id>24580260</meneame:comment_id>
		<meneame:link_id>2965688</meneame:link_id>
		<meneame:order>9</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>jm22381</meneame:user>
		<meneame:votes>1</meneame:votes>
		<meneame:karma>38</meneame:karma>
		<meneame:url>https://www.meneame.net/story/rayo-tractor-sonico</meneame:url>
		<title>#9 El rayo tractor sónico</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/rayo-tractor-sonico/c09#c-9</link>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Jun 2018 21:53:40 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>jm22381</dc:creator>
		<guid>https://www.meneame.net/story/rayo-tractor-sonico/c09#c-9</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[<p>Relacionada: <a href="https://www.meneame.net/story/gauntlev-guante-levitar-particulas-ing" title="www.meneame.net/story/gauntlev-guante-levitar-particulas-ing" rel="nofollow">www.meneame.net/story/gauntlev-guante-levitar-particulas-ing</a></p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>jm22381</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<meneame:comment_id>24580257</meneame:comment_id>
		<meneame:link_id>2965688</meneame:link_id>
		<meneame:order>8</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>gale</meneame:user>
		<meneame:votes>1</meneame:votes>
		<meneame:karma>29</meneame:karma>
		<meneame:url>https://www.meneame.net/story/rayo-tractor-sonico</meneame:url>
		<title>#8 El rayo tractor sónico</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/rayo-tractor-sonico/c08#c-8</link>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Jun 2018 21:52:47 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>gale</dc:creator>
		<guid>https://www.meneame.net/story/rayo-tractor-sonico/c08#c-8</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[<p>Aitor,...</p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>gale</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<meneame:comment_id>24580236</meneame:comment_id>
		<meneame:link_id>2965688</meneame:link_id>
		<meneame:order>7</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>Minipunk</meneame:user>
		<meneame:votes>1</meneame:votes>
		<meneame:karma>19</meneame:karma>
		<meneame:url>https://www.meneame.net/story/rayo-tractor-sonico</meneame:url>
		<title>#7 El rayo tractor sónico</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/rayo-tractor-sonico/c07#c-7</link>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Jun 2018 21:48:38 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Minipunk</dc:creator>
		<guid>https://www.meneame.net/story/rayo-tractor-sonico/c07#c-7</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[<p>¿Vídeo de 2016 y aún no se ha hecho viral?</p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>Minipunk</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<meneame:comment_id>24580205</meneame:comment_id>
		<meneame:link_id>2965688</meneame:link_id>
		<meneame:order>6</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>--555981--</meneame:user>
		<meneame:votes>1</meneame:votes>
		<meneame:karma>16</meneame:karma>
		<meneame:url>https://www.meneame.net/story/rayo-tractor-sonico</meneame:url>
		<title>#6 El rayo tractor sónico</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/rayo-tractor-sonico/c06#c-6</link>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Jun 2018 21:42:11 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>--555981--</dc:creator>
		<guid>https://www.meneame.net/story/rayo-tractor-sonico/c06#c-6</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[<p>Erronea: no es un &#34;rayo tractor&#34; a lo star wars, mas bien es levitacion.</p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>--555981--</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<meneame:comment_id>24580194</meneame:comment_id>
		<meneame:link_id>2965688</meneame:link_id>
		<meneame:order>5</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>--525240--</meneame:user>
		<meneame:votes>0</meneame:votes>
		<meneame:karma>13</meneame:karma>
		<meneame:url>https://www.meneame.net/story/rayo-tractor-sonico</meneame:url>
		<title>#5 El rayo tractor sónico</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/rayo-tractor-sonico/c05#c-5</link>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Jun 2018 21:40:16 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>--525240--</dc:creator>
		<guid>https://www.meneame.net/story/rayo-tractor-sonico/c05#c-5</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[<p><i>¡Flípolo</i>! Me ponga un par para llevar</p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>--525240--</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<meneame:comment_id>24580156</meneame:comment_id>
		<meneame:link_id>2965688</meneame:link_id>
		<meneame:order>4</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>NinjaBoig</meneame:user>
		<meneame:votes>0</meneame:votes>
		<meneame:karma>7</meneame:karma>
		<meneame:url>https://www.meneame.net/story/rayo-tractor-sonico</meneame:url>
		<title>#4 El rayo tractor sónico</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/rayo-tractor-sonico/c04#c-4</link>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Jun 2018 21:34:41 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>NinjaBoig</dc:creator>
		<guid>https://www.meneame.net/story/rayo-tractor-sonico/c04#c-4</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[<p>Im-pezionante.</p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>NinjaBoig</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<meneame:comment_id>24580125</meneame:comment_id>
		<meneame:link_id>2965688</meneame:link_id>
		<meneame:order>3</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>--575044--</meneame:user>
		<meneame:votes>4</meneame:votes>
		<meneame:karma>51</meneame:karma>
		<meneame:url>https://www.meneame.net/story/rayo-tractor-sonico</meneame:url>
		<title>#3 El rayo tractor sónico</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/rayo-tractor-sonico/c03#c-3</link>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Jun 2018 21:28:32 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>--575044--</dc:creator>
		<guid>https://www.meneame.net/story/rayo-tractor-sonico/c03#c-3</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[<p>Me quedao flipao.<br />
<img data-src="https://cdn.mnmstatic.net/v_149/img/menemojis/36/wow.png" alt="o_o" title="o_o :wow:" width="18" height="18" src="https://cdn.mnmstatic.net/v_149/img/g.gif" class="emoji lazy" /></p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>--575044--</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<meneame:comment_id>24580117</meneame:comment_id>
		<meneame:link_id>2965688</meneame:link_id>
		<meneame:order>2</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>portera</meneame:user>
		<meneame:votes>5</meneame:votes>
		<meneame:karma>28</meneame:karma>
		<meneame:url>https://www.meneame.net/story/rayo-tractor-sonico</meneame:url>
		<title>#2 El rayo tractor sónico</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/rayo-tractor-sonico/c02#c-2</link>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Jun 2018 21:27:40 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>portera</dc:creator>
		<guid>https://www.meneame.net/story/rayo-tractor-sonico/c02#c-2</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[<p>Estos son los cracks que importan.</p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>portera</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<meneame:comment_id>24580065</meneame:comment_id>
		<meneame:link_id>2965688</meneame:link_id>
		<meneame:order>1</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>--405202--</meneame:user>
		<meneame:votes>2</meneame:votes>
		<meneame:karma>25</meneame:karma>
		<meneame:url>https://www.meneame.net/story/rayo-tractor-sonico</meneame:url>
		<title>#1 El rayo tractor sónico</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/rayo-tractor-sonico/c01#c-1</link>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Jun 2018 21:21:04 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>--405202--</dc:creator>
		<guid>https://www.meneame.net/story/rayo-tractor-sonico/c01#c-1</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[<p>[Usuario deshabilitado]</p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>--405202--</strong></p>]]></description>
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