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		<meneame:comment_id>1376899</meneame:comment_id>
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		<meneame:order>17</meneame:order>
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		<meneame:karma>5</meneame:karma>
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		<title>#17 A ver si aprendemos. Subida salarial del 11% a maquinistas alemanes</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/ver-si-aprendemos-subida-salarial-11-maquinistas-alemanes/c017#c-17</link>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Jan 2008 14:43:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<guid>https://www.meneame.net/story/ver-si-aprendemos-subida-salarial-11-maquinistas-alemanes/c017#c-17</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[<p>[Usuario deshabilitado]</p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>--50874--</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<meneame:comment_id>1375548</meneame:comment_id>
		<meneame:link_id>287772</meneame:link_id>
		<meneame:order>16</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>iramosjan</meneame:user>
		<meneame:votes>2</meneame:votes>
		<meneame:karma>24</meneame:karma>
		<meneame:url>https://www.meneame.net/story/ver-si-aprendemos-subida-salarial-11-maquinistas-alemanes</meneame:url>
		<title>#16 A ver si aprendemos. Subida salarial del 11% a maquinistas alemanes</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/ver-si-aprendemos-subida-salarial-11-maquinistas-alemanes/c016#c-16</link>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Jan 2008 10:01:53 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>iramosjan</dc:creator>
		<guid>https://www.meneame.net/story/ver-si-aprendemos-subida-salarial-11-maquinistas-alemanes/c016#c-16</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[<p><a class="tooltip c:287772-14" href="https://www.meneame.net/story/ver-si-aprendemos-subida-salarial-11-maquinistas-alemanes/c014#c-14" rel="nofollow">#14</a> Ya, pero es que los maquinistas de la RENFE toman como modelo a los pilotos de avión, y aún les parece que les tratan mal...</p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>iramosjan</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<meneame:comment_id>1375212</meneame:comment_id>
		<meneame:link_id>287772</meneame:link_id>
		<meneame:order>15</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>--48356--</meneame:user>
		<meneame:votes>1</meneame:votes>
		<meneame:karma>-4</meneame:karma>
		<meneame:url>https://www.meneame.net/story/ver-si-aprendemos-subida-salarial-11-maquinistas-alemanes</meneame:url>
		<title>#15 A ver si aprendemos. Subida salarial del 11% a maquinistas alemanes</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/ver-si-aprendemos-subida-salarial-11-maquinistas-alemanes/c015#c-15</link>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Jan 2008 08:37:11 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>--48356--</dc:creator>
		<guid>https://www.meneame.net/story/ver-si-aprendemos-subida-salarial-11-maquinistas-alemanes/c015#c-15</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[<p>Y eso que el crecimiento economico en Alemania ha sido inferior al de España.</p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>--48356--</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<meneame:comment_id>1375086</meneame:comment_id>
		<meneame:link_id>287772</meneame:link_id>
		<meneame:order>14</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>--38336--</meneame:user>
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		<meneame:url>https://www.meneame.net/story/ver-si-aprendemos-subida-salarial-11-maquinistas-alemanes</meneame:url>
		<title>#14 A ver si aprendemos. Subida salarial del 11% a maquinistas alemanes</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/ver-si-aprendemos-subida-salarial-11-maquinistas-alemanes/c014#c-14</link>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Jan 2008 08:01:59 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>--38336--</dc:creator>
		<guid>https://www.meneame.net/story/ver-si-aprendemos-subida-salarial-11-maquinistas-alemanes/c014#c-14</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[<p>Si los maquinistas de RENFE tienen unos sueldos de la ostia, un familiar mío que llevaba un cercanías andaba por los 2400 euros al mes...</p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>--38336--</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<meneame:comment_id>1375073</meneame:comment_id>
		<meneame:link_id>287772</meneame:link_id>
		<meneame:order>13</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>iramosjan</meneame:user>
		<meneame:votes>2</meneame:votes>
		<meneame:karma>24</meneame:karma>
		<meneame:url>https://www.meneame.net/story/ver-si-aprendemos-subida-salarial-11-maquinistas-alemanes</meneame:url>
		<title>#13 A ver si aprendemos. Subida salarial del 11% a maquinistas alemanes</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/ver-si-aprendemos-subida-salarial-11-maquinistas-alemanes/c013#c-13</link>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Jan 2008 07:57:30 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>iramosjan</dc:creator>
		<guid>https://www.meneame.net/story/ver-si-aprendemos-subida-salarial-11-maquinistas-alemanes/c013#c-13</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[<p>Si los maquinistas de la RENFE hicieran una huelga como la que hicieron los alemanes, me pregunto si les ibáis a aplaudir, compañeros...</p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>iramosjan</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<meneame:comment_id>1374983</meneame:comment_id>
		<meneame:link_id>287772</meneame:link_id>
		<meneame:order>12</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>--31316--</meneame:user>
		<meneame:votes>0</meneame:votes>
		<meneame:karma>6</meneame:karma>
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		<title>#12 A ver si aprendemos. Subida salarial del 11% a maquinistas alemanes</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/ver-si-aprendemos-subida-salarial-11-maquinistas-alemanes/c012#c-12</link>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Jan 2008 07:10:05 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>--31316--</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[<p>[Usuario deshabilitado]</p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>--31316--</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<meneame:comment_id>1374471</meneame:comment_id>
		<meneame:link_id>287772</meneame:link_id>
		<meneame:order>11</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>kilokilo</meneame:user>
		<meneame:votes>1</meneame:votes>
		<meneame:karma>17</meneame:karma>
		<meneame:url>https://www.meneame.net/story/ver-si-aprendemos-subida-salarial-11-maquinistas-alemanes</meneame:url>
		<title>#11 A ver si aprendemos. Subida salarial del 11% a maquinistas alemanes</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/ver-si-aprendemos-subida-salarial-11-maquinistas-alemanes/c011#c-11</link>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Jan 2008 22:49:29 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>kilokilo</dc:creator>
		<guid>https://www.meneame.net/story/ver-si-aprendemos-subida-salarial-11-maquinistas-alemanes/c011#c-11</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[<p>Meses y meses de huelga, con el apoyo mayoritario de la población. Y eso que muchos no hemos podido llegar al curro algún que otro día.</p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>kilokilo</strong></p>]]></description>
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	<item>
		<meneame:comment_id>1374046</meneame:comment_id>
		<meneame:link_id>287772</meneame:link_id>
		<meneame:order>10</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>alexwing</meneame:user>
		<meneame:votes>1</meneame:votes>
		<meneame:karma>19</meneame:karma>
		<meneame:url>https://www.meneame.net/story/ver-si-aprendemos-subida-salarial-11-maquinistas-alemanes</meneame:url>
		<title>#10 A ver si aprendemos. Subida salarial del 11% a maquinistas alemanes</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/ver-si-aprendemos-subida-salarial-11-maquinistas-alemanes/c010#c-10</link>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Jan 2008 21:05:43 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>alexwing</dc:creator>
		<guid>https://www.meneame.net/story/ver-si-aprendemos-subida-salarial-11-maquinistas-alemanes/c010#c-10</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[<p>En España los únicos que arman escandalo en vez de los maquinistas son los maquineros, Chunta chunta!!! <img data-src="https://cdn.mnmstatic.net/v_149/img/menemojis/36/grin.png" alt=":-D" title=":-D" width="18" height="18" src="https://cdn.mnmstatic.net/v_149/img/g.gif" class="emoji lazy" /></p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>alexwing</strong></p>]]></description>
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	<item>
		<meneame:comment_id>1373853</meneame:comment_id>
		<meneame:link_id>287772</meneame:link_id>
		<meneame:order>9</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>Txibit</meneame:user>
		<meneame:votes>1</meneame:votes>
		<meneame:karma>18</meneame:karma>
		<meneame:url>https://www.meneame.net/story/ver-si-aprendemos-subida-salarial-11-maquinistas-alemanes</meneame:url>
		<title>#9 A ver si aprendemos. Subida salarial del 11% a maquinistas alemanes</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/ver-si-aprendemos-subida-salarial-11-maquinistas-alemanes/c09#c-9</link>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Jan 2008 20:13:51 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Txibit</dc:creator>
		<guid>https://www.meneame.net/story/ver-si-aprendemos-subida-salarial-11-maquinistas-alemanes/c09#c-9</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[<p>Estoy convencido de que si en España consiguiéramos que nos subiesen a todos un 100% el sueldo, nosotros mismos provocaríamos que los pisos subiesen otro 100%. Lo llevamos en los genes.</p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>Txibit</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<meneame:comment_id>1373845</meneame:comment_id>
		<meneame:link_id>287772</meneame:link_id>
		<meneame:order>8</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>--7398--</meneame:user>
		<meneame:votes>1</meneame:votes>
		<meneame:karma>1</meneame:karma>
		<meneame:url>https://www.meneame.net/story/ver-si-aprendemos-subida-salarial-11-maquinistas-alemanes</meneame:url>
		<title>#8 A ver si aprendemos. Subida salarial del 11% a maquinistas alemanes</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/ver-si-aprendemos-subida-salarial-11-maquinistas-alemanes/c08#c-8</link>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Jan 2008 20:10:31 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>--7398--</dc:creator>
		<guid>https://www.meneame.net/story/ver-si-aprendemos-subida-salarial-11-maquinistas-alemanes/c08#c-8</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[<p>[Usuario deshabilitado]</p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>--7398--</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<meneame:comment_id>1373831</meneame:comment_id>
		<meneame:link_id>287772</meneame:link_id>
		<meneame:order>7</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>--2516--</meneame:user>
		<meneame:votes>1</meneame:votes>
		<meneame:karma>22</meneame:karma>
		<meneame:url>https://www.meneame.net/story/ver-si-aprendemos-subida-salarial-11-maquinistas-alemanes</meneame:url>
		<title>#7 A ver si aprendemos. Subida salarial del 11% a maquinistas alemanes</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/ver-si-aprendemos-subida-salarial-11-maquinistas-alemanes/c07#c-7</link>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Jan 2008 20:08:19 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>--2516--</dc:creator>
		<guid>https://www.meneame.net/story/ver-si-aprendemos-subida-salarial-11-maquinistas-alemanes/c07#c-7</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[<p>[Usuario deshabilitado]</p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>--2516--</strong></p>]]></description>
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	<item>
		<meneame:comment_id>1373520</meneame:comment_id>
		<meneame:link_id>287772</meneame:link_id>
		<meneame:order>6</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>acastro</meneame:user>
		<meneame:votes>1</meneame:votes>
		<meneame:karma>0</meneame:karma>
		<meneame:url>https://www.meneame.net/story/ver-si-aprendemos-subida-salarial-11-maquinistas-alemanes</meneame:url>
		<title>#6 A ver si aprendemos. Subida salarial del 11% a maquinistas alemanes</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/ver-si-aprendemos-subida-salarial-11-maquinistas-alemanes/c06#c-6</link>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Jan 2008 18:41:43 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>acastro</dc:creator>
		<guid>https://www.meneame.net/story/ver-si-aprendemos-subida-salarial-11-maquinistas-alemanes/c06#c-6</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[<p>Mas sueldos y las cosas mas baratas en casi todos los paises de nuestro entorno. Lo de estamos en la champión ligue de la economía europea debe ser por los beneficios de nuestras grandes empresas que esas si que se están forrando.</p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>acastro</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<meneame:comment_id>1373511</meneame:comment_id>
		<meneame:link_id>287772</meneame:link_id>
		<meneame:order>5</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>iberiaroja</meneame:user>
		<meneame:votes>2</meneame:votes>
		<meneame:karma>30</meneame:karma>
		<meneame:url>https://www.meneame.net/story/ver-si-aprendemos-subida-salarial-11-maquinistas-alemanes</meneame:url>
		<title>#5 A ver si aprendemos. Subida salarial del 11% a maquinistas alemanes</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/ver-si-aprendemos-subida-salarial-11-maquinistas-alemanes/c05#c-5</link>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Jan 2008 18:39:36 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>iberiaroja</dc:creator>
		<guid>https://www.meneame.net/story/ver-si-aprendemos-subida-salarial-11-maquinistas-alemanes/c05#c-5</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[<p>Los maquinistas de alemania unidos logran grandes cosas, a ver si hacemos algo aqui..<br />
<br />
Trabajadores del mundo ¡UNIOS!</p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>iberiaroja</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<meneame:comment_id>1373376</meneame:comment_id>
		<meneame:link_id>287772</meneame:link_id>
		<meneame:order>4</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>Harital</meneame:user>
		<meneame:votes>3</meneame:votes>
		<meneame:karma>35</meneame:karma>
		<meneame:url>https://www.meneame.net/story/ver-si-aprendemos-subida-salarial-11-maquinistas-alemanes</meneame:url>
		<title>#4 A ver si aprendemos. Subida salarial del 11% a maquinistas alemanes</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/ver-si-aprendemos-subida-salarial-11-maquinistas-alemanes/c04#c-4</link>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Jan 2008 17:59:09 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Harital</dc:creator>
		<guid>https://www.meneame.net/story/ver-si-aprendemos-subida-salarial-11-maquinistas-alemanes/c04#c-4</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[<p>Menos quejarnos y más hacer como en Alemania o en Francia. Allí los maquinistas llevan meses haciendo huelgas. De acuerdo que son un sector con mucha capacidad de presión, como los pilotos (que raro que en agosto no hicieran ninguna) o los conductores de autobús.<br />
<br />
Allí, en cuanto les tocan las narices, se movilizan todos para reivindicar lo que quieren. Hace cuanto que no hay una huelga general en este país? Cuando ha habido una huelga de profesionales de IT, por ejemplo? Y una huelga de ingenieros?</p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>Harital</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<meneame:comment_id>1373327</meneame:comment_id>
		<meneame:link_id>287772</meneame:link_id>
		<meneame:order>3</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>Vodker</meneame:user>
		<meneame:votes>6</meneame:votes>
		<meneame:karma>62</meneame:karma>
		<meneame:url>https://www.meneame.net/story/ver-si-aprendemos-subida-salarial-11-maquinistas-alemanes</meneame:url>
		<title>#3 A ver si aprendemos. Subida salarial del 11% a maquinistas alemanes</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/ver-si-aprendemos-subida-salarial-11-maquinistas-alemanes/c03#c-3</link>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Jan 2008 17:42:58 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Vodker</dc:creator>
		<guid>https://www.meneame.net/story/ver-si-aprendemos-subida-salarial-11-maquinistas-alemanes/c03#c-3</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[<p>Yo no quiero ser Europa. Quiero ser maquinista alemán.</p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>Vodker</strong></p>]]></description>
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	<item>
		<meneame:comment_id>1373233</meneame:comment_id>
		<meneame:link_id>287772</meneame:link_id>
		<meneame:order>2</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>Borg</meneame:user>
		<meneame:votes>2</meneame:votes>
		<meneame:karma>4</meneame:karma>
		<meneame:url>https://www.meneame.net/story/ver-si-aprendemos-subida-salarial-11-maquinistas-alemanes</meneame:url>
		<title>#2 A ver si aprendemos. Subida salarial del 11% a maquinistas alemanes</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/ver-si-aprendemos-subida-salarial-11-maquinistas-alemanes/c02#c-2</link>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Jan 2008 17:17:40 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Borg</dc:creator>
		<guid>https://www.meneame.net/story/ver-si-aprendemos-subida-salarial-11-maquinistas-alemanes/c02#c-2</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[<p>Yo quiero ser Europa también...</p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>Borg</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<meneame:comment_id>1373222</meneame:comment_id>
		<meneame:link_id>287772</meneame:link_id>
		<meneame:order>1</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>davidx</meneame:user>
		<meneame:votes>2</meneame:votes>
		<meneame:karma>36</meneame:karma>
		<meneame:url>https://www.meneame.net/story/ver-si-aprendemos-subida-salarial-11-maquinistas-alemanes</meneame:url>
		<title>#1 A ver si aprendemos. Subida salarial del 11% a maquinistas alemanes</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/ver-si-aprendemos-subida-salarial-11-maquinistas-alemanes/c01#c-1</link>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Jan 2008 17:14:05 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>davidx</dc:creator>
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