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		<title>#15 [ENG] &#34;Salvamos vuestro kebab&#34;: el parlamento europeo vota en contra de prohibir los fosfatos en los kebab</title>
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		<dc:creator>rutas</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[<p><a class="tooltip c:2874142-13" href="https://www.meneame.net/story/eng-salvamos-vuestro-kebab-parlamento-europeo-vota-contra-kebab/c013#c-13" rel="nofollow">#13</a> Uf... Gracias por tanta información. Veo que has estado indagando bien en el asunto. Me interesa mucho, pero voy a necesitar tiempo para leerlo todo.</p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>rutas</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<title>#14 [ENG] &#34;Salvamos vuestro kebab&#34;: el parlamento europeo vota en contra de prohibir los fosfatos en los kebab</title>
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		<title>#13 [ENG] &#34;Salvamos vuestro kebab&#34;: el parlamento europeo vota en contra de prohibir los fosfatos en los kebab</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Dec 2017 17:12:12 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>capitan__nemo</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[<p><a class="tooltip c:2874142-12" href="https://www.meneame.net/story/eng-salvamos-vuestro-kebab-parlamento-europeo-vota-contra-kebab/c012#c-12" rel="nofollow">#12</a> En una respuesta al articulo cientifico:<br />
 <a href="https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3402076/" title="www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3402076/" rel="nofollow">www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3402076/</a> <br />
<i>&#34;I want to add that phosphates for some time have been suspected of being associated with behavioral abnormalities. The doctor and children’s book author Heinrich Hoffmann described in his character of Fidgety Philip not only a child in whom nowadays <b>attention deficit hyperactivity disorder (ADHD) would be diagnosed</b>, but he also adds that “a normal human being has only 1.5/1000 phosphorus in their brain”, and wonders if it should be investigated whether “any fellow who was happy as a lark did not carry two or three times of that amount in his head” (2).<br />
<br />
The association of phosphorus and behavioral abnormalities has been the subject of a controversial discussion ever since, and in ADHD, a low-phosphate diet has been recommended. However, only recently, several clinical studies have suggested an association between (organo-)phosphates and ADHD (3, 4).<br />
<br />
Bearing in mind the rising incidence of ADHD and increasing numbers of prescriptions for methylphenidate, it would be interesting to study the association between dietary components such as in fast food and processed food with a high phosphate content and a causal association with the development of ADHD.<br />
</i><br />
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Ale y mas.<br />
Podría estar relacionado con el,<br />
Transtorno por deficit de atencion, tdah, hiperactividad.<br />
<br />
Todos los niños (y mas mayores) al burger king y al macdonalds, a beber coca cola light (ya no lleva tanta azucar) pero con fosfatos a destajo. Kfc, kebab, burguers, pizzas de carne, embutidos, ...<br />
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<a class="tooltip l:2874142" href="https://www.meneame.net/story/eng-salvamos-vuestro-kebab-parlamento-europeo-vota-contra-kebab" rel="nofollow">#0</a> <a class="tooltip c:2874142-6" href="https://www.meneame.net/story/eng-salvamos-vuestro-kebab-parlamento-europeo-vota-contra-kebab/c06#c-6" rel="nofollow">#6</a><br />
<br />
¿Y dicen que el año que viene harán un estudio?<br />
&#34; The European Food Safety Agency is due to investigate the use of phosphates next year, which could reignite the debate.&#34; <br />
<br />
<b>¿Qué coño han estado haciendo hasta ahora?</b></p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>capitan__nemo</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<title>#12 [ENG] &#34;Salvamos vuestro kebab&#34;: el parlamento europeo vota en contra de prohibir los fosfatos en los kebab</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Dec 2017 16:51:06 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>capitan__nemo</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[<p><a class="tooltip c:2874142-9" href="https://www.meneame.net/story/eng-salvamos-vuestro-kebab-parlamento-europeo-vota-contra-kebab/c09#c-9" rel="nofollow">#9</a> <br />
<i>&#34;...<br />
 On the other hand, an avoidable risk to health that has not attracted sufficient attention to date arises from the increased use of phosphate as a food additive and preservative. This “free” (not organically bound) phosphate is very effectively absorbed in the gastrointestinal tract. Typical foods with large amounts of added phosphate are <b>processed meat, ham, sausages, canned fish, baked goods, cola drinks, and other soft drinks</b>. Dietary counseling is all the more difficult because the phosphate content in food—and, in particular, the added phospate content—is not marked on the package.&#34;<br />
...<br />
&#34;The phosphate content of <b>industrially processed food</b> is much higher than that of natural food, because polyphosphates are commonly used as an additive in industrial food production (Table). In the European Union, <b>sodium phosphate (E 339), <br />
potassium phosphate (E 340), calcium phosphate (E 341), and salts of orthophosphoric acid diphosphate (E 450), triphosphate (E 451), and polyphosphate (E 452) can legally be added to food as preservatives, acidifying agents, acidity buffers, and emulsifying agents. Phosphate salts are also added to many foods as stabilizers or taste intensifiers.</b>&#34;<br />
...<br />
&#34; <b>Fast food and ready-to-eat processed foods are the main contributors to today’s rising dietary consumption of phosphate</b>. Because of the increased use of food additives, the estimated daily intake of phosphate-containing food additives has more than doubled since the 1990s, from just under 500 mg/day to 1000 mg/day&#34;<br />
...<br />
&#34;Phosphate additives play an especially important role in the meat industry, where they are used as preservatives. They are also used as a component of melting salts in the production of <b>soft cheese</b>&#34;<br />
...<br />
&#34;Phosphate additives are also found in large quantities in <b>flavored soft drinks and in sterilized, ultra heat treated, thickened, and powdered milk</b> A further use of phosphates is to prevent the agglomeration of food powders such as powdered coffee and pudding. <b>Cola drinks and flavored soft drinks often contain large quantities of phosphoric acid (E 338) as an acidifying agent</b>. Such agents are given to lower the pH of food and thereby inhibit the growth of yeast, fungi, and bacteria.&#34;<br />
...<br />
&#34; Thus, <b>cola drinks</b> owe their brown color to phosphate. European regulations allow up to 700 mg/L of phosphate in cola drinks; if this much phosphate were added, one liter of cola would already provide 50% to 75% of the recommended daily allowance of phosphate for adults. The actual amount of phosphate added to each liter of cola is somewhat less, however, about 520 mg.&#34;</i><br />
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<a class="tooltip l:2874142" href="https://www.meneame.net/story/eng-salvamos-vuestro-kebab-parlamento-europeo-vota-contra-kebab" rel="nofollow">#0</a> <a class="tooltip c:2874142-6" href="https://www.meneame.net/story/eng-salvamos-vuestro-kebab-parlamento-europeo-vota-contra-kebab/c06#c-6" rel="nofollow">#6</a></p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>capitan__nemo</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<title>#11 [ENG] &#34;Salvamos vuestro kebab&#34;: el parlamento europeo vota en contra de prohibir los fosfatos en los kebab</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Dec 2017 16:18:48 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>capitan__nemo</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[<p><a class="tooltip c:2874142-10" href="https://www.meneame.net/story/eng-salvamos-vuestro-kebab-parlamento-europeo-vota-contra-kebab/c010#c-10" rel="nofollow">#10</a> ahh que hay mas<br />
<br />
 E1410 Fosfato de monoalmidón<br />
 E1412 Fosfato de dialmidón<br />
 E1413 Fosfato de dialmidón fosfatado<br />
 E1414 Fosfato de dialmidón acetilado<br />
<br />
 E1442 Fosfato de hidroxipropil dialmidón<br />
<br />
 E541 Fosfato ácido de sodio y aluminio<br />
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 <a href="http://www.google.es/search?q=eu+food+additives+database&#38;oq=eu+food+additives" title="www.google.es/search?q=eu+food+additives+database&#38;oq=eu+food+additives" rel="nofollow">www.google.es/search?q=eu+food+additives+database&#38;oq=eu+food+addit</a></p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>capitan__nemo</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<title>#10 [ENG] &#34;Salvamos vuestro kebab&#34;: el parlamento europeo vota en contra de prohibir los fosfatos en los kebab</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/eng-salvamos-vuestro-kebab-parlamento-europeo-vota-contra-kebab/c010#c-10</link>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Dec 2017 16:06:08 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>capitan__nemo</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://cocina.facilisimo.com/blogs/general/aditivos-alimentarios_1006584.html" title="cocina.facilisimo.com/blogs/general/aditivos-alimentarios_1006584.html" rel="nofollow">cocina.facilisimo.com/blogs/general/aditivos-alimentarios_1006584.html</a> <br />
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E338 Ácido fosfórico<br />
E339 Fosfatos de sodio<br />
 (i) Fosfato monosódico<br />
 (ii) Fosfato disódico<br />
 (iii) Fosfato trisódico<br />
E340 Fosfatos de potasio<br />
(i) Fosfato monopotásico<br />
(ii) Fosfato dipotásico<br />
(iii) Fosfato tripotásico<br />
E341 Fosfatos de calcio<br />
 (i) Fosfato monocálcico<br />
 (ii) Fosfato dicálcico<br />
 (iii) Fosfato tricálcico<br />
 E343 Fosfatos de magnesio<br />
 (i) Fosfato de monomagnesio<br />
 (ii) Fosfato de dimagnesio<br />
<br />
 E450 Difosfatos<br />
 (i) Difosfato disódico<br />
 (ii) Difosfato trisódico<br />
 (iii) Difosfato tetrasódico<br />
 (iv) Difosfato dipotásico<br />
 (v) Difosfato tetrapotásico<br />
 (vi) Difosfato dicálcico<br />
 (vii) Difosfato ácido de calcio<br />
 E451 Trifosfatos<br />
 (i) Trifosfato de pentasodio<br />
 (ii) Trifosfato de pentapotasio<br />
 E452 Polifosfatos<br />
 (i) Polifosfato de sodio<br />
 (ii) Polifosfato de potasio<br />
 (iii) Polifosfato de socio y calcio<br />
 (iv) Polifosfatos de calcio<br />
 (v) Polifosfatos de amonio<br />
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¿Cuales son exactamente?</p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>capitan__nemo</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<title>#9 [ENG] &#34;Salvamos vuestro kebab&#34;: el parlamento europeo vota en contra de prohibir los fosfatos en los kebab</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Dec 2017 02:17:59 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>capitan__nemo</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[<p><a class="tooltip c:2874142-8" href="https://www.meneame.net/story/eng-salvamos-vuestro-kebab-parlamento-europeo-vota-contra-kebab/c08#c-8" rel="nofollow">#8</a> <a class="tooltip c:2874142-6" href="https://www.meneame.net/story/eng-salvamos-vuestro-kebab-parlamento-europeo-vota-contra-kebab/c06#c-6" rel="nofollow">#6</a><br />
Aquí parece estar alguno de los estudios cientificos.<br />
 Phosphate Additives in Food—a Health Risk <br />
 <a href="https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3278747/" title="www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3278747/" rel="nofollow">www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3278747/</a></p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>capitan__nemo</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<title>#8 [ENG] &#34;Salvamos vuestro kebab&#34;: el parlamento europeo vota en contra de prohibir los fosfatos en los kebab</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Dec 2017 02:03:35 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>capitan__nemo</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[<p><a class="tooltip c:2874142-6" href="https://www.meneame.net/story/eng-salvamos-vuestro-kebab-parlamento-europeo-vota-contra-kebab/c06#c-6" rel="nofollow">#6</a> ¿Entonces cómo aparecen los fosfatos en la lista de ingredientes?<br />
¿Con qué denominación de aditivo tipo E-XXX?<br />
¿Qué normas de concentración y porcentaje tienen?<br />
<br />
He visto esto<br />
 <a href="https://www.greens-efa.eu/en/article/news/q-a-on-phosphate-additives-in-kebab-meat/" title="www.greens-efa.eu/en/article/news/q-a-on-phosphate-additives-in-kebab-meat/" rel="nofollow">www.greens-efa.eu/en/article/news/q-a-on-phosphate-additives-in-kebab-</a><br />
<br />
¿Aparte de esto hay que estudiar los aditivos?<br />
<br />
 Carcinogenicidad del consumo de carne roja y de la carne procesada OMS<br />
 <a href="http://www.who.int/features/qa/cancer-red-meat/es/" title="www.who.int/features/qa/cancer-red-meat/es/" rel="nofollow">www.who.int/features/qa/cancer-red-meat/es/</a> <br />
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<i>&#34; 8. ¿La carne procesada fue clasificada como Grupo 1, cancerígeno para los seres humanos. ¿Qué significa esto?<br />
<br />
Esta categoría se utiliza cuando hay suficiente evidencia de carcinogenicidad en humanos. En otras palabras, hay pruebas convincentes de que el agente causa cáncer. La evaluación se basa generalmente en estudios epidemiológicos que muestran el desarrollo de cáncer en humanos expuestos.<br />
<br />
En el caso de la carne procesada, esta clasificación está basada en evidencia suficiente a partir de estudios epidemiológicos que muestran que el consumo de carne procesada provoca cáncer colorrectal. <br />
<br />
 13. ¿Se puede cuantificar el riesgo de comer carne roja y carne procesada?<br />
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En los estudios revisados, el consumo de carne procesada se asoció con pequeños aumentos en el riesgo de cáncer. En esos estudios, el riesgo generalmente aumentó con la cantidad de carne consumida. Un análisis de los datos de 10 estudios estima que cada porción de 50 gramos de carne procesada consumida diariamente aumenta el riesgo de cáncer colorrectal en aproximadamente un 18%.&#34;</i></p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>capitan__nemo</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<title>#7 [ENG] &#34;Salvamos vuestro kebab&#34;: el parlamento europeo vota en contra de prohibir los fosfatos en los kebab</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/eng-salvamos-vuestro-kebab-parlamento-europeo-vota-contra-kebab/c07#c-7</link>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Dec 2017 18:45:36 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>--402531--</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[<p>[Usuario deshabilitado]</p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>--402531--</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<meneame:comment_id>23277223</meneame:comment_id>
		<meneame:link_id>2874142</meneame:link_id>
		<meneame:order>6</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>rutas</meneame:user>
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		<title>#6 [ENG] &#34;Salvamos vuestro kebab&#34;: el parlamento europeo vota en contra de prohibir los fosfatos en los kebab</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/eng-salvamos-vuestro-kebab-parlamento-europeo-vota-contra-kebab/c06#c-6</link>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Dec 2017 17:33:58 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>rutas</dc:creator>
		<guid>https://www.meneame.net/story/eng-salvamos-vuestro-kebab-parlamento-europeo-vota-contra-kebab/c06#c-6</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[<p>Todos los productos cárnicos envasados o de comida rápida llevan fosfatos. Las salchichas, las hamburguesas, la mortadela, el jamón de york, el chorizo industrial... Todos llevan fosfatos. El kebab no es ni mejor ni peor que esos productos.<br />
<br />
<a href="http://www.larioja.org/innovacion/en/noticias/noticia-innovacion/fosfatos-industria-carnica" title="www.larioja.org/innovacion/en/noticias/noticia-innovacion/fosfatos-industria-carnica" rel="nofollow">www.larioja.org/innovacion/en/noticias/noticia-innovacion/fosfatos-ind</a></p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>rutas</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<meneame:comment_id>23277191</meneame:comment_id>
		<meneame:link_id>2874142</meneame:link_id>
		<meneame:order>5</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>andran</meneame:user>
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		<meneame:url>https://www.meneame.net/story/eng-salvamos-vuestro-kebab-parlamento-europeo-vota-contra-kebab</meneame:url>
		<title>#5 [ENG] &#34;Salvamos vuestro kebab&#34;: el parlamento europeo vota en contra de prohibir los fosfatos en los kebab</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/eng-salvamos-vuestro-kebab-parlamento-europeo-vota-contra-kebab/c05#c-5</link>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Dec 2017 17:26:41 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>andran</dc:creator>
		<guid>https://www.meneame.net/story/eng-salvamos-vuestro-kebab-parlamento-europeo-vota-contra-kebab/c05#c-5</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[<p>Habiendo bocatas de jamón ibérico con tomatico y aceite de oliva virgen extra por mi se pueden meter los kebabs por donde amargan los pepinos.</p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>andran</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<meneame:comment_id>23277064</meneame:comment_id>
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		<meneame:order>4</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>Pepethefrog</meneame:user>
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		<meneame:karma>6</meneame:karma>
		<meneame:url>https://www.meneame.net/story/eng-salvamos-vuestro-kebab-parlamento-europeo-vota-contra-kebab</meneame:url>
		<title>#4 [ENG] &#34;Salvamos vuestro kebab&#34;: el parlamento europeo vota en contra de prohibir los fosfatos en los kebab</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/eng-salvamos-vuestro-kebab-parlamento-europeo-vota-contra-kebab/c04#c-4</link>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Dec 2017 17:03:57 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Pepethefrog</dc:creator>
		<guid>https://www.meneame.net/story/eng-salvamos-vuestro-kebab-parlamento-europeo-vota-contra-kebab/c04#c-4</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[<p><a class="tooltip c:2874142-2" href="https://www.meneame.net/story/eng-salvamos-vuestro-kebab-parlamento-europeo-vota-contra-kebab/c02#c-2" rel="nofollow">#2</a> omg dedazo! Ahora te doy positivo en otro sitio.</p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>Pepethefrog</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<meneame:comment_id>23277055</meneame:comment_id>
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		<meneame:order>3</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>Pezzonovante</meneame:user>
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		<meneame:karma>10</meneame:karma>
		<meneame:url>https://www.meneame.net/story/eng-salvamos-vuestro-kebab-parlamento-europeo-vota-contra-kebab</meneame:url>
		<title>#3 [ENG] &#34;Salvamos vuestro kebab&#34;: el parlamento europeo vota en contra de prohibir los fosfatos en los kebab</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/eng-salvamos-vuestro-kebab-parlamento-europeo-vota-contra-kebab/c03#c-3</link>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Dec 2017 17:02:38 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Pezzonovante</dc:creator>
		<guid>https://www.meneame.net/story/eng-salvamos-vuestro-kebab-parlamento-europeo-vota-contra-kebab/c03#c-3</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[<p><a class="tooltip c:2874142-1" href="https://www.meneame.net/story/eng-salvamos-vuestro-kebab-parlamento-europeo-vota-contra-kebab/c01#c-1" rel="nofollow">#1</a> Los detergentes líquidos también llevan monóxido de dihidrógeno.</p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>Pezzonovante</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<meneame:comment_id>23277015</meneame:comment_id>
		<meneame:link_id>2874142</meneame:link_id>
		<meneame:order>2</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>ElPerroDeLosCinco</meneame:user>
		<meneame:votes>6</meneame:votes>
		<meneame:karma>39</meneame:karma>
		<meneame:url>https://www.meneame.net/story/eng-salvamos-vuestro-kebab-parlamento-europeo-vota-contra-kebab</meneame:url>
		<title>#2 [ENG] &#34;Salvamos vuestro kebab&#34;: el parlamento europeo vota en contra de prohibir los fosfatos en los kebab</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/eng-salvamos-vuestro-kebab-parlamento-europeo-vota-contra-kebab/c02#c-2</link>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Dec 2017 16:55:34 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>ElPerroDeLosCinco</dc:creator>
		<guid>https://www.meneame.net/story/eng-salvamos-vuestro-kebab-parlamento-europeo-vota-contra-kebab/c02#c-2</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[<p>De algo hay que morir.<br />
<a href="/search?w=comments&#38;q=%23SalvemosNuestroKebab&#38;o=date">#SalvemosNuestroKebab</a></p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>ElPerroDeLosCinco</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<meneame:comment_id>23276995</meneame:comment_id>
		<meneame:link_id>2874142</meneame:link_id>
		<meneame:order>1</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>capitan__nemo</meneame:user>
		<meneame:votes>0</meneame:votes>
		<meneame:karma>10</meneame:karma>
		<meneame:url>https://www.meneame.net/story/eng-salvamos-vuestro-kebab-parlamento-europeo-vota-contra-kebab</meneame:url>
		<title>#1 [ENG] &#34;Salvamos vuestro kebab&#34;: el parlamento europeo vota en contra de prohibir los fosfatos en los kebab</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/eng-salvamos-vuestro-kebab-parlamento-europeo-vota-contra-kebab/c01#c-1</link>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Dec 2017 16:52:11 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>capitan__nemo</dc:creator>
		<guid>https://www.meneame.net/story/eng-salvamos-vuestro-kebab-parlamento-europeo-vota-contra-kebab/c01#c-1</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[<p>¿Pero los fosfatos no eran lo de los detergentes?</p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>capitan__nemo</strong></p>]]></description>
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