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		<meneame:comment_id>22005699</meneame:comment_id>
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		<meneame:order>51</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>leto_ii</meneame:user>
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		<title>#51 ¡Basta Ya!</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Jun 2017 21:15:06 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>leto_ii</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[<p><a class="tooltip c:2788431-49" href="https://www.meneame.net/story/basta-ya-5/c049#c-49" rel="nofollow">#49</a> Götzche está sesgado por su ideología y mete mucho la pata, pero errores de bulto, nada de pequeños errores:<br />
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<a href="https://docs.google.com/a/gcloud.ua.es/document/d/1tTvmD3R6fM52NcDkHBmLNc25wakxo8zyse1qJ6eMKnk/edit?usp=drivesdk" title="docs.google.com/a/gcloud.ua.es/document/d/1tTvmD3R6fM52NcDkHBmLNc25wakxo8zyse1qJ6eMKnk/edit?usp=drivesdk" rel="nofollow">docs.google.com/a/gcloud.ua.es/document/d/1tTvmD3R6fM52NcDkHBmLNc25wak</a></p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>leto_ii</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<meneame:comment_id>22005668</meneame:comment_id>
		<meneame:link_id>2788431</meneame:link_id>
		<meneame:order>50</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>leto_ii</meneame:user>
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		<meneame:karma>6</meneame:karma>
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		<title>#50 ¡Basta Ya!</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/basta-ya-5/c050#c-50</link>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Jun 2017 21:11:08 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>leto_ii</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[<p>Me parece increíble que cada vez que se saca el tema de las pseudociencia y de los problemas sociales que provocan, siempre te atacan con la Iatrogenia, como si no luchar contra las pseudociencia se fuera a solventar los problemas de la sobremedicacion y de la mala praxis de los médicos como por arte de magia.<br />
<br />
Que tú consideres más importante la Iatrogenia que las muertes por pseudoterapias no me obliga a mí a considerarlo así también. Yo persigo las pseudociencias como otros perseguirán la tauromaquia y tú lucharás contra la Iatrogenia que me parece muy bien. Pero te diré dos cosas:<br />
<br />
1. No, no es verdad que la Iatrogenia es la tercera causa de muerte en el mundo:<br />
<br />
<a href="https://docs.google.com/a/gcloud.ua.es/document/d/1tTvmD3R6fM52NcDkHBmLNc25wakxo8zyse1qJ6eMKnk/edit?usp=drivesdk" title="docs.google.com/a/gcloud.ua.es/document/d/1tTvmD3R6fM52NcDkHBmLNc25wakxo8zyse1qJ6eMKnk/edit?usp=drivesdk" rel="nofollow">docs.google.com/a/gcloud.ua.es/document/d/1tTvmD3R6fM52NcDkHBmLNc25wak</a><br />
<br />
2. ¿Cómo sabes que hay más muertos por iatrogenia si desconocemos cuántos hay por culpa de las pseudoterapias? ¿No te has parado a pensar que quizás hayan incluso más muertes por esta causa? El problema es que con la medicina tenemos algunas estimaciones, burdas estimaciones sí, pero por lo menos alguna. Sin embargo con las pseudoterapias no tenemos ninguna y por lo tanto desconocemos la magnitud del problema. Pero te diré una cosa, yo no conozco a nadie que haya muerto por la medicina aunque sí que conozco agente que conoce a gente. Sin embargo, muertes por la pseudociencia conozco a varios.</p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>leto_ii</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<meneame:comment_id>22005477</meneame:comment_id>
		<meneame:link_id>2788431</meneame:link_id>
		<meneame:order>49</meneame:order>
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		<meneame:karma>6</meneame:karma>
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		<title>#49 ¡Basta Ya!</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Jun 2017 20:39:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[<p>[Usuario deshabilitado]</p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>--501427--</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<meneame:comment_id>22005432</meneame:comment_id>
		<meneame:link_id>2788431</meneame:link_id>
		<meneame:order>48</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>--501427--</meneame:user>
		<meneame:votes>0</meneame:votes>
		<meneame:karma>6</meneame:karma>
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		<title>#48 ¡Basta Ya!</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/basta-ya-5/c048#c-48</link>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Jun 2017 20:34:35 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>--501427--</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[<p>[Usuario deshabilitado]</p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>--501427--</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<meneame:comment_id>22005349</meneame:comment_id>
		<meneame:link_id>2788431</meneame:link_id>
		<meneame:order>47</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>leto_ii</meneame:user>
		<meneame:votes>0</meneame:votes>
		<meneame:karma>6</meneame:karma>
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		<title>#47 ¡Basta Ya!</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Jun 2017 20:22:34 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>leto_ii</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[<p><a class="tooltip c:2788431-12" href="https://www.meneame.net/story/basta-ya-5/c012#c-12" rel="nofollow">#12</a> pero es que encima esos datos son falsos, ni siquiera los propios autores del artículo daban por buena esa cifra. Pero ninguno de estos se ha molestado en ir a la fuente y comprobarlo solo repetir ese mito una y otra vez porque concuerdan con sus ideas preestablecidas:<br />
<br />
<a href="https://docs.google.com/a/gcloud.ua.es/document/d/1tTvmD3R6fM52NcDkHBmLNc25wakxo8zyse1qJ6eMKnk/edit?usp=drivesdk" title="docs.google.com/a/gcloud.ua.es/document/d/1tTvmD3R6fM52NcDkHBmLNc25wakxo8zyse1qJ6eMKnk/edit?usp=drivesdk" rel="nofollow">docs.google.com/a/gcloud.ua.es/document/d/1tTvmD3R6fM52NcDkHBmLNc25wak</a></p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>leto_ii</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<meneame:comment_id>22005325</meneame:comment_id>
		<meneame:link_id>2788431</meneame:link_id>
		<meneame:order>46</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>leto_ii</meneame:user>
		<meneame:votes>0</meneame:votes>
		<meneame:karma>6</meneame:karma>
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		<title>#46 ¡Basta Ya!</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/basta-ya-5/c046#c-46</link>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Jun 2017 20:18:27 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>leto_ii</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[<p><a class="tooltip c:2788431-2" href="https://www.meneame.net/story/basta-ya-5/c02#c-2" rel="nofollow">#2</a> eso es más falso que un billete de 3 €, pero seguid difundiendo ese mito, seguid, que vale más una mentira que confirme nuestros prejuicios que la verdad.</p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>leto_ii</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<meneame:comment_id>22005313</meneame:comment_id>
		<meneame:link_id>2788431</meneame:link_id>
		<meneame:order>45</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>leto_ii</meneame:user>
		<meneame:votes>0</meneame:votes>
		<meneame:karma>6</meneame:karma>
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		<title>#45 ¡Basta Ya!</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/basta-ya-5/c045#c-45</link>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Jun 2017 20:16:06 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>leto_ii</dc:creator>
		<guid>https://www.meneame.net/story/basta-ya-5/c045#c-45</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[<p><a class="tooltip c:2788431-19" href="https://www.meneame.net/story/basta-ya-5/c019#c-19" rel="nofollow">#19</a> si te parece difícil demandar a un médico por mala praxis, que no te lo niego, intenta de mandar a un curandero: es imposible.</p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>leto_ii</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<meneame:comment_id>22005067</meneame:comment_id>
		<meneame:link_id>2788431</meneame:link_id>
		<meneame:order>44</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>--516070--</meneame:user>
		<meneame:votes>0</meneame:votes>
		<meneame:karma>8</meneame:karma>
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		<title>#44 ¡Basta Ya!</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/basta-ya-5/c044#c-44</link>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Jun 2017 19:36:08 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>--516070--</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[<p><a class="tooltip c:2788431-43" href="https://www.meneame.net/story/basta-ya-5/c043#c-43" rel="nofollow">#43</a> <a href="http://www.eldiario.es/consumoclaro/cuidarse/peter-g-tzsche-psicofarmacos-libros_0_526347508.html" title="www.eldiario.es/consumoclaro/cuidarse/peter-g-tzsche-psicofarmacos-libros_0_526347508.html" rel="nofollow">www.eldiario.es/consumoclaro/cuidarse/peter-g-tzsche-psicofarmacos-lib</a><br />
<br />
De todas formas, no tengo ninguna duda de la corrupción en las empresas farmacéuticas.<br />
<br />
Pero de ahí a vender homeopatía hay un universo.</p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>--516070--</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<meneame:comment_id>22004989</meneame:comment_id>
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		<meneame:order>43</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>--501427--</meneame:user>
		<meneame:votes>0</meneame:votes>
		<meneame:karma>7</meneame:karma>
		<meneame:url>https://www.meneame.net/story/basta-ya-5</meneame:url>
		<title>#43 ¡Basta Ya!</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/basta-ya-5/c043#c-43</link>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Jun 2017 19:20:28 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>--501427--</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[<p>[Usuario deshabilitado]</p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>--501427--</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<meneame:comment_id>22004408</meneame:comment_id>
		<meneame:link_id>2788431</meneame:link_id>
		<meneame:order>42</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>Ripio</meneame:user>
		<meneame:votes>0</meneame:votes>
		<meneame:karma>20</meneame:karma>
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		<title>#42 ¡Basta Ya!</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/basta-ya-5/c042#c-42</link>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Jun 2017 17:35:15 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Ripio</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[<p><a class="tooltip c:2788431-40" href="https://www.meneame.net/story/basta-ya-5/c040#c-40" rel="nofollow">#40</a> <img data-src="https://cdn.mnmstatic.net/v_149/img/menemojis/36/cheesy.png" alt=":-&#62;" title=":-&#62;" width="18" height="18" src="https://cdn.mnmstatic.net/v_149/img/g.gif" class="emoji lazy" /> <img data-src="https://cdn.mnmstatic.net/v_149/img/menemojis/36/cheesy.png" alt=":-&#62;" title=":-&#62;" width="18" height="18" src="https://cdn.mnmstatic.net/v_149/img/g.gif" class="emoji lazy" /> <img data-src="https://cdn.mnmstatic.net/v_149/img/menemojis/36/cheesy.png" alt=":-&#62;" title=":-&#62;" width="18" height="18" src="https://cdn.mnmstatic.net/v_149/img/g.gif" class="emoji lazy" /></p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>Ripio</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<meneame:comment_id>22004318</meneame:comment_id>
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		<meneame:order>41</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>--501427--</meneame:user>
		<meneame:votes>1</meneame:votes>
		<meneame:karma>-1</meneame:karma>
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		<title>#41 ¡Basta Ya!</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/basta-ya-5/c041#c-41</link>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Jun 2017 17:15:28 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>--501427--</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[<p>[Usuario deshabilitado]</p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>--501427--</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<meneame:comment_id>22003912</meneame:comment_id>
		<meneame:link_id>2788431</meneame:link_id>
		<meneame:order>40</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>--516070--</meneame:user>
		<meneame:votes>0</meneame:votes>
		<meneame:karma>8</meneame:karma>
		<meneame:url>https://www.meneame.net/story/basta-ya-5</meneame:url>
		<title>#40 ¡Basta Ya!</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/basta-ya-5/c040#c-40</link>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Jun 2017 16:14:24 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>--516070--</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[<p><a class="tooltip c:2788431-39" href="https://www.meneame.net/story/basta-ya-5/c039#c-39" rel="nofollow">#39</a> Uau, qué bien.</p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>--516070--</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<meneame:comment_id>22003806</meneame:comment_id>
		<meneame:link_id>2788431</meneame:link_id>
		<meneame:order>39</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>Ripio</meneame:user>
		<meneame:votes>0</meneame:votes>
		<meneame:karma>20</meneame:karma>
		<meneame:url>https://www.meneame.net/story/basta-ya-5</meneame:url>
		<title>#39 ¡Basta Ya!</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/basta-ya-5/c039#c-39</link>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Jun 2017 16:02:18 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Ripio</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[<p><a class="tooltip c:2788431-33" href="https://www.meneame.net/story/basta-ya-5/c033#c-33" rel="nofollow">#33</a> ¿Conmigo no vas a fallar?<br />
Mira, el mio pesa mas.<br />
<img data-src="https://cdn.mnmstatic.net/v_149/img/menemojis/36/lol.gif" alt="xD" title=":lol: xD" width="18" height="18" src="https://cdn.mnmstatic.net/v_149/img/g.gif" class="emoji lazy" /> <img data-src="https://cdn.mnmstatic.net/v_149/img/menemojis/36/lol.gif" alt="xD" title=":lol: xD" width="18" height="18" src="https://cdn.mnmstatic.net/v_149/img/g.gif" class="emoji lazy" /> <img data-src="https://cdn.mnmstatic.net/v_149/img/menemojis/36/lol.gif" alt="xD" title=":lol: xD" width="18" height="18" src="https://cdn.mnmstatic.net/v_149/img/g.gif" class="emoji lazy" /></p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>Ripio</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<meneame:comment_id>22003741</meneame:comment_id>
		<meneame:link_id>2788431</meneame:link_id>
		<meneame:order>38</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>--516070--</meneame:user>
		<meneame:votes>1</meneame:votes>
		<meneame:karma>1</meneame:karma>
		<meneame:url>https://www.meneame.net/story/basta-ya-5</meneame:url>
		<title>#38 ¡Basta Ya!</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/basta-ya-5/c038#c-38</link>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Jun 2017 15:56:06 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>--516070--</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[<p><a class="tooltip c:2788431-37" href="https://www.meneame.net/story/basta-ya-5/c037#c-37" rel="nofollow">#37</a> ¿Qué estudio? ¿Estudios del año 2000 en UN país para hablar sobre la mortalidad en 2017 en TODO EL MUNDO? <img data-src="https://cdn.mnmstatic.net/v_149/img/menemojis/36/grin.png" alt=":-D" title=":-D" width="18" height="18" src="https://cdn.mnmstatic.net/v_149/img/g.gif" class="emoji lazy" /><br />
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O espera, mejor aún. ¿Estudio el éxito de los tratamientos homeopáticos sobre pacientes de cáncer? <img data-src="https://cdn.mnmstatic.net/v_149/img/menemojis/36/wink.png" alt=";)" title=";)" width="18" height="18" src="https://cdn.mnmstatic.net/v_149/img/g.gif" class="emoji lazy" /></p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>--516070--</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<meneame:comment_id>22003710</meneame:comment_id>
		<meneame:link_id>2788431</meneame:link_id>
		<meneame:order>37</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>--501427--</meneame:user>
		<meneame:votes>1</meneame:votes>
		<meneame:karma>27</meneame:karma>
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		<title>#37 ¡Basta Ya!</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/basta-ya-5/c037#c-37</link>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Jun 2017 15:53:34 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>--501427--</dc:creator>
		<guid>https://www.meneame.net/story/basta-ya-5/c037#c-37</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[<p>[Usuario deshabilitado]</p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>--501427--</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<meneame:comment_id>22003692</meneame:comment_id>
		<meneame:link_id>2788431</meneame:link_id>
		<meneame:order>36</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>--516070--</meneame:user>
		<meneame:votes>0</meneame:votes>
		<meneame:karma>8</meneame:karma>
		<meneame:url>https://www.meneame.net/story/basta-ya-5</meneame:url>
		<title>#36 ¡Basta Ya!</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/basta-ya-5/c036#c-36</link>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Jun 2017 15:51:45 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>--516070--</dc:creator>
		<guid>https://www.meneame.net/story/basta-ya-5/c036#c-36</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[<p><a class="tooltip c:2788431-29" href="https://www.meneame.net/story/basta-ya-5/c029#c-29" rel="nofollow">#29</a> Permite que trabaje por ti y te encuentre tus fuentes.<br />
<br />
<a href="http://lmgtfy.com/?q=homeopatia+cáncer" title="lmgtfy.com/?q=homeopatia+cáncer" rel="nofollow">lmgtfy.com/?q=homeopatia+cáncer</a><br />
<br />
Ya está, la próxima noticia sobre el agua milagrosa homeopática podrás poner todos esos enlaces para hablar cómo cura el cáncer.</p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>--516070--</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<meneame:comment_id>22003679</meneame:comment_id>
		<meneame:link_id>2788431</meneame:link_id>
		<meneame:order>35</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>--501427--</meneame:user>
		<meneame:votes>2</meneame:votes>
		<meneame:karma>19</meneame:karma>
		<meneame:url>https://www.meneame.net/story/basta-ya-5</meneame:url>
		<title>#35 ¡Basta Ya!</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/basta-ya-5/c035#c-35</link>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Jun 2017 15:50:31 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>--501427--</dc:creator>
		<guid>https://www.meneame.net/story/basta-ya-5/c035#c-35</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[<p>[Usuario deshabilitado]</p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>--501427--</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<meneame:comment_id>22003665</meneame:comment_id>
		<meneame:link_id>2788431</meneame:link_id>
		<meneame:order>34</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>--516070--</meneame:user>
		<meneame:votes>0</meneame:votes>
		<meneame:karma>8</meneame:karma>
		<meneame:url>https://www.meneame.net/story/basta-ya-5</meneame:url>
		<title>#34 ¡Basta Ya!</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/basta-ya-5/c034#c-34</link>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Jun 2017 15:49:42 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>--516070--</dc:creator>
		<guid>https://www.meneame.net/story/basta-ya-5/c034#c-34</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[<p><a class="tooltip c:2788431-21" href="https://www.meneame.net/story/basta-ya-5/c021#c-21" rel="nofollow">#21</a> Ah, qué bien. Decir esto precisamente en la noticia en el que se me insulta por decir que un estudio centífico de hace veinte años no es una fuente fiable actual.</p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>--516070--</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<meneame:comment_id>22003630</meneame:comment_id>
		<meneame:link_id>2788431</meneame:link_id>
		<meneame:order>33</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>--516070--</meneame:user>
		<meneame:votes>1</meneame:votes>
		<meneame:karma>-12</meneame:karma>
		<meneame:url>https://www.meneame.net/story/basta-ya-5</meneame:url>
		<title>#33 ¡Basta Ya!</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/basta-ya-5/c033#c-33</link>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Jun 2017 15:46:16 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>--516070--</dc:creator>
		<guid>https://www.meneame.net/story/basta-ya-5/c033#c-33</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[<p><a class="tooltip c:2788431-32" href="https://www.meneame.net/story/basta-ya-5/c032#c-32" rel="nofollow">#32</a> Pensaba que le había puesto negativo <img data-src="https://cdn.mnmstatic.net/v_149/img/menemojis/36/confused.png" alt=":-S" title=":-S :S" width="18" height="18" src="https://cdn.mnmstatic.net/v_149/img/g.gif" class="emoji lazy" /><br />
<br />
pero mira, como ahora estoy con el PC y no con el móvil contigo no voy a fallar.<br />
<br />
De verdad, no entiendo por qué os cuesta tanto defender vuestras ideas, que serán defendibles de alguna forma, con educación.</p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>--516070--</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<meneame:comment_id>22003255</meneame:comment_id>
		<meneame:link_id>2788431</meneame:link_id>
		<meneame:order>32</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>Ripio</meneame:user>
		<meneame:votes>2</meneame:votes>
		<meneame:karma>-8</meneame:karma>
		<meneame:url>https://www.meneame.net/story/basta-ya-5</meneame:url>
		<title>#32 ¡Basta Ya!</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/basta-ya-5/c032#c-32</link>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Jun 2017 15:10:56 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Ripio</dc:creator>
		<guid>https://www.meneame.net/story/basta-ya-5/c032#c-32</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[<p><a class="tooltip c:2788431-31" href="https://www.meneame.net/story/basta-ya-5/c031#c-31" rel="nofollow">#31</a> Reportas a <a class="tooltip c:2788431-27" href="https://www.meneame.net/story/basta-ya-5/c027#c-27" rel="nofollow">#27</a> pero jaleas con tu positivo a quien le insulta en <a class="tooltip c:2788431-14" href="https://www.meneame.net/story/basta-ya-5/c014#c-14" rel="nofollow">#14</a> ?<br />
<br />
Tu eres un hipócrita.<br />
Y punto pelota.</p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>Ripio</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<meneame:comment_id>22003169</meneame:comment_id>
		<meneame:link_id>2788431</meneame:link_id>
		<meneame:order>31</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>--516070--</meneame:user>
		<meneame:votes>0</meneame:votes>
		<meneame:karma>8</meneame:karma>
		<meneame:url>https://www.meneame.net/story/basta-ya-5</meneame:url>
		<title>#31 ¡Basta Ya!</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/basta-ya-5/c031#c-31</link>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Jun 2017 15:02:34 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>--516070--</dc:creator>
		<guid>https://www.meneame.net/story/basta-ya-5/c031#c-31</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[<p><a class="tooltip c:2788431-30" href="https://www.meneame.net/story/basta-ya-5/c030#c-30" rel="nofollow">#30</a> Reportado por insultos.<br />
<br />
Si vas a vender agua con azúcar para curar el cáncer, al menos hazlo con educación y respeto.</p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>--516070--</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<meneame:comment_id>22002338</meneame:comment_id>
		<meneame:link_id>2788431</meneame:link_id>
		<meneame:order>30</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>--501427--</meneame:user>
		<meneame:votes>2</meneame:votes>
		<meneame:karma>19</meneame:karma>
		<meneame:url>https://www.meneame.net/story/basta-ya-5</meneame:url>
		<title>#30 ¡Basta Ya!</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/basta-ya-5/c030#c-30</link>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Jun 2017 13:20:58 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>--501427--</dc:creator>
		<guid>https://www.meneame.net/story/basta-ya-5/c030#c-30</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[<p>[Usuario deshabilitado]</p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>--501427--</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<meneame:comment_id>22002322</meneame:comment_id>
		<meneame:link_id>2788431</meneame:link_id>
		<meneame:order>29</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>--501427--</meneame:user>
		<meneame:votes>0</meneame:votes>
		<meneame:karma>7</meneame:karma>
		<meneame:url>https://www.meneame.net/story/basta-ya-5</meneame:url>
		<title>#29 ¡Basta Ya!</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/basta-ya-5/c029#c-29</link>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Jun 2017 13:19:32 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>--501427--</dc:creator>
		<guid>https://www.meneame.net/story/basta-ya-5/c029#c-29</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[<p>[Usuario deshabilitado]</p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>--501427--</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<meneame:comment_id>22002117</meneame:comment_id>
		<meneame:link_id>2788431</meneame:link_id>
		<meneame:order>28</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>--516070--</meneame:user>
		<meneame:votes>0</meneame:votes>
		<meneame:karma>8</meneame:karma>
		<meneame:url>https://www.meneame.net/story/basta-ya-5</meneame:url>
		<title>#28 ¡Basta Ya!</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/basta-ya-5/c028#c-28</link>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Jun 2017 12:57:34 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>--516070--</dc:creator>
		<guid>https://www.meneame.net/story/basta-ya-5/c028#c-28</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[<p><a class="tooltip c:2788431-15" href="https://www.meneame.net/story/basta-ya-5/c015#c-15" rel="nofollow">#15</a> Claro que mata. Convences a gente para que se tome un placebo en vez de salvarse la vida con medicamentos.<br />
<br />
Y mueren, claro que mueren.</p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>--516070--</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<meneame:comment_id>22002091</meneame:comment_id>
		<meneame:link_id>2788431</meneame:link_id>
		<meneame:order>27</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>--516070--</meneame:user>
		<meneame:votes>0</meneame:votes>
		<meneame:karma>8</meneame:karma>
		<meneame:url>https://www.meneame.net/story/basta-ya-5</meneame:url>
		<title>#27 ¡Basta Ya!</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/basta-ya-5/c027#c-27</link>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Jun 2017 12:54:58 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>--516070--</dc:creator>
		<guid>https://www.meneame.net/story/basta-ya-5/c027#c-27</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[<p><a class="tooltip c:2788431-26" href="https://www.meneame.net/story/basta-ya-5/c026#c-26" rel="nofollow">#26</a> Comentabas que habías puesto enlaces por lo cual las malas prácticas médicas eran la tercera causa de muerte en el mundo.<br />
<br />
Te he demostrado que esos enlaces eran absurdos.<br />
<br />
Ahora cambia de tema y patalea todo lo que quieras <img data-src="https://cdn.mnmstatic.net/v_149/img/menemojis/36/shame.png" alt="¬¬" title="¬¬ :shame:" width="18" height="18" src="https://cdn.mnmstatic.net/v_149/img/g.gif" class="emoji lazy" /></p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>--516070--</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<meneame:comment_id>22001404</meneame:comment_id>
		<meneame:link_id>2788431</meneame:link_id>
		<meneame:order>26</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>--501427--</meneame:user>
		<meneame:votes>0</meneame:votes>
		<meneame:karma>7</meneame:karma>
		<meneame:url>https://www.meneame.net/story/basta-ya-5</meneame:url>
		<title>#26 ¡Basta Ya!</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/basta-ya-5/c026#c-26</link>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Jun 2017 11:36:05 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>--501427--</dc:creator>
		<guid>https://www.meneame.net/story/basta-ya-5/c026#c-26</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[<p>[Usuario deshabilitado]</p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>--501427--</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<meneame:comment_id>22001278</meneame:comment_id>
		<meneame:link_id>2788431</meneame:link_id>
		<meneame:order>25</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>--516070--</meneame:user>
		<meneame:votes>0</meneame:votes>
		<meneame:karma>8</meneame:karma>
		<meneame:url>https://www.meneame.net/story/basta-ya-5</meneame:url>
		<title>#25 ¡Basta Ya!</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/basta-ya-5/c025#c-25</link>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Jun 2017 11:22:56 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>--516070--</dc:creator>
		<guid>https://www.meneame.net/story/basta-ya-5/c025#c-25</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[<p><a class="tooltip c:2788431-17" href="https://www.meneame.net/story/basta-ya-5/c017#c-17" rel="nofollow">#17</a> No soy yo el que tiene que buscar esos datos. Con desmentir los tuyos me ha sobrado.</p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>--516070--</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<meneame:comment_id>22000735</meneame:comment_id>
		<meneame:link_id>2788431</meneame:link_id>
		<meneame:order>24</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>skaworld</meneame:user>
		<meneame:votes>1</meneame:votes>
		<meneame:karma>27</meneame:karma>
		<meneame:url>https://www.meneame.net/story/basta-ya-5</meneame:url>
		<title>#24 ¡Basta Ya!</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/basta-ya-5/c024#c-24</link>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Jun 2017 10:17:07 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>skaworld</dc:creator>
		<guid>https://www.meneame.net/story/basta-ya-5/c024#c-24</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[<p><a class="tooltip c:2788431-21" href="https://www.meneame.net/story/basta-ya-5/c021#c-21" rel="nofollow">#21</a> Ajam, mira, siendo del todo sinceros, este sabado he tenido bodorrio y tengo resaca, no me apetece perder mucho el tiempo.<br />
<br />
Puedes comerme la polla.<br />
<br />
Ahora, que ya si te puedes enarbolar la bandera del victimismo con razón, te invito a que vayas a darle el coñazo a otro.</p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>skaworld</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<meneame:comment_id>22000726</meneame:comment_id>
		<meneame:link_id>2788431</meneame:link_id>
		<meneame:order>23</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>--550151--</meneame:user>
		<meneame:votes>3</meneame:votes>
		<meneame:karma>33</meneame:karma>
		<meneame:url>https://www.meneame.net/story/basta-ya-5</meneame:url>
		<title>#23 ¡Basta Ya!</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/basta-ya-5/c023#c-23</link>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Jun 2017 10:16:28 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>--550151--</dc:creator>
		<guid>https://www.meneame.net/story/basta-ya-5/c023#c-23</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[<p><a class="tooltip c:2788431-1" href="https://www.meneame.net/story/basta-ya-5/c01#c-1" rel="nofollow">#1</a> Actuar como un magufo es mucho más facil que rebatir a un magufo.<br />
<br />
Un magufo:<br />
- No necesita entender nada<br />
- Puede soltar una frase que le viene bien en cualquier momento sin necesidad de que sea coherente con nada<br />
- Puede decirle a cada uno lo que desea oir<br />
- Puede rechazar cualquier explicación con cualquier excusa<br />
- Tiene licencia para el uso de falacias lógicas.<br />
- Se pueden inventar nuevas excusas a petición</p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>--550151--</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<meneame:comment_id>22000684</meneame:comment_id>
		<meneame:link_id>2788431</meneame:link_id>
		<meneame:order>22</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>--550151--</meneame:user>
		<meneame:votes>3</meneame:votes>
		<meneame:karma>10</meneame:karma>
		<meneame:url>https://www.meneame.net/story/basta-ya-5</meneame:url>
		<title>#22 ¡Basta Ya!</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/basta-ya-5/c022#c-22</link>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Jun 2017 10:12:23 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>--550151--</dc:creator>
		<guid>https://www.meneame.net/story/basta-ya-5/c022#c-22</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[<p><a class="tooltip c:2788431-15" href="https://www.meneame.net/story/basta-ya-5/c015#c-15" rel="nofollow">#15</a> Todas las &#34;terapias alternativas&#34; son lo mismo con distintas apariencias. Son algo que no funciona y susceptible de ser usado en vez de lo que funciona, con el consiguiente riesgo por no haber recibido la terapia no-alternativa.</p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>--550151--</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<meneame:comment_id>22000663</meneame:comment_id>
		<meneame:link_id>2788431</meneame:link_id>
		<meneame:order>21</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>--546219--</meneame:user>
		<meneame:votes>0</meneame:votes>
		<meneame:karma>6</meneame:karma>
		<meneame:url>https://www.meneame.net/story/basta-ya-5</meneame:url>
		<title>#21 ¡Basta Ya!</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/basta-ya-5/c021#c-21</link>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Jun 2017 10:10:44 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>--546219--</dc:creator>
		<guid>https://www.meneame.net/story/basta-ya-5/c021#c-21</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[<p>[Usuario deshabilitado]</p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>--546219--</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<meneame:comment_id>22000581</meneame:comment_id>
		<meneame:link_id>2788431</meneame:link_id>
		<meneame:order>20</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>--11417--</meneame:user>
		<meneame:votes>0</meneame:votes>
		<meneame:karma>15</meneame:karma>
		<meneame:url>https://www.meneame.net/story/basta-ya-5</meneame:url>
		<title>#20 ¡Basta Ya!</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/basta-ya-5/c020#c-20</link>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Jun 2017 09:59:31 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>--11417--</dc:creator>
		<guid>https://www.meneame.net/story/basta-ya-5/c020#c-20</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[<p><a class="tooltip c:2788431-19" href="https://www.meneame.net/story/basta-ya-5/c019#c-19" rel="nofollow">#19</a> Tú debes creer que en medicina ya está todo inventado y que las enfermedades incurables lo son porque a alguien no le da la gana curarlas.</p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>--11417--</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<meneame:comment_id>22000570</meneame:comment_id>
		<meneame:link_id>2788431</meneame:link_id>
		<meneame:order>19</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>--546219--</meneame:user>
		<meneame:votes>1</meneame:votes>
		<meneame:karma>16</meneame:karma>
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		<title>#19 ¡Basta Ya!</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/basta-ya-5/c019#c-19</link>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Jun 2017 09:58:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[<p>[Usuario deshabilitado]</p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>--546219--</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<meneame:user>Maestro_Blaster</meneame:user>
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		<meneame:karma>13</meneame:karma>
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		<title>#18 ¡Basta Ya!</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/basta-ya-5/c018#c-18</link>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Jun 2017 09:34:19 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Maestro_Blaster</dc:creator>
		<guid>https://www.meneame.net/story/basta-ya-5/c018#c-18</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[<p><a class="tooltip c:2788431-16" href="https://www.meneame.net/story/basta-ya-5/c016#c-16" rel="nofollow">#16</a> Busca ayuda profesional</p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>Maestro_Blaster</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<title>#17 ¡Basta Ya!</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/basta-ya-5/c017#c-17</link>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Jun 2017 09:17:38 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>--501427--</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[<p>[Usuario deshabilitado]</p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>--501427--</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<title>#16 ¡Basta Ya!</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/basta-ya-5/c016#c-16</link>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Jun 2017 09:16:58 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>--501427--</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[<p>[Usuario deshabilitado]</p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>--501427--</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<meneame:order>15</meneame:order>
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		<meneame:karma>37</meneame:karma>
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		<title>#15 ¡Basta Ya!</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/basta-ya-5/c015#c-15</link>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Jun 2017 09:15:53 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>--501427--</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[<p>[Usuario deshabilitado]</p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>--501427--</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<meneame:comment_id>22000255</meneame:comment_id>
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		<meneame:order>14</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>Maestro_Blaster</meneame:user>
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		<meneame:karma>-22</meneame:karma>
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		<title>#14 ¡Basta Ya!</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/basta-ya-5/c014#c-14</link>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Jun 2017 09:15:52 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Maestro_Blaster</dc:creator>
		<guid>https://www.meneame.net/story/basta-ya-5/c014#c-14</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[<p><a class="tooltip c:2788431-12" href="https://www.meneame.net/story/basta-ya-5/c012#c-12" rel="nofollow">#12</a> Esta mal de la cabeza, ¿no ves cómo escribe?</p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>Maestro_Blaster</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<meneame:comment_id>22000251</meneame:comment_id>
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		<meneame:order>13</meneame:order>
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		<meneame:karma>7</meneame:karma>
		<meneame:url>https://www.meneame.net/story/basta-ya-5</meneame:url>
		<title>#13 ¡Basta Ya!</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/basta-ya-5/c013#c-13</link>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Jun 2017 09:14:57 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>--501427--</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[<p>[Usuario deshabilitado]</p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>--501427--</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<meneame:order>12</meneame:order>
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		<meneame:votes>1</meneame:votes>
		<meneame:karma>1</meneame:karma>
		<meneame:url>https://www.meneame.net/story/basta-ya-5</meneame:url>
		<title>#12 ¡Basta Ya!</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/basta-ya-5/c012#c-12</link>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Jun 2017 09:12:04 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>--516070--</dc:creator>
		<guid>https://www.meneame.net/story/basta-ya-5/c012#c-12</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[<p><a class="tooltip c:2788431-2" href="https://www.meneame.net/story/basta-ya-5/c02#c-2" rel="nofollow">#2</a> <a class="tooltip c:2788431-4" href="https://www.meneame.net/story/basta-ya-5/c04#c-4" rel="nofollow">#4</a> Tercera causa de muerte, en EEUU, hace 17 años.<br />
<br />
Yo intento tener la mente abierta, pero cuando ven la puerta abierta aprovecha cualquiera a meterte datos del siglo pasado, generalizando lo que ocurre en un sistema sanitario como el estadounidense en todo el mundo. <br />
<br />
Y se queda tan pancho oye.<br />
<br />
A mí se me caería la cara de vergüenza si apoyara mis argumentos por un estudio centífico de hace casi veinte años.</p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>--516070--</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<meneame:comment_id>22000206</meneame:comment_id>
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		<meneame:order>11</meneame:order>
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		<meneame:votes>4</meneame:votes>
		<meneame:karma>29</meneame:karma>
		<meneame:url>https://www.meneame.net/story/basta-ya-5</meneame:url>
		<title>#11 ¡Basta Ya!</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/basta-ya-5/c011#c-11</link>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Jun 2017 09:08:29 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>--516070--</dc:creator>
		<guid>https://www.meneame.net/story/basta-ya-5/c011#c-11</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[<p><a class="tooltip c:2788431-2" href="https://www.meneame.net/story/basta-ya-5/c02#c-2" rel="nofollow">#2</a> <i>&#34;También puede ser causado por un médico que practique terapias alternativas&#34;</i> (De la página de wikipedia que señalas)<br />
<br />
Ah, perfecto. Los homeópatas matando gente, aumentan las estadísticas de iatrogenia y las utilizan para seguir matando gente.</p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>--516070--</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<meneame:comment_id>22000196</meneame:comment_id>
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		<meneame:order>10</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>Maestro_Blaster</meneame:user>
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		<meneame:karma>13</meneame:karma>
		<meneame:url>https://www.meneame.net/story/basta-ya-5</meneame:url>
		<title>#10 ¡Basta Ya!</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/basta-ya-5/c010#c-10</link>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Jun 2017 09:07:14 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Maestro_Blaster</dc:creator>
		<guid>https://www.meneame.net/story/basta-ya-5/c010#c-10</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[<p><a class="tooltip c:2788431-8" href="https://www.meneame.net/story/basta-ya-5/c08#c-8" rel="nofollow">#8</a> Decenas de enlaces y profesionales que solo existen en tu mente.</p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>Maestro_Blaster</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<meneame:karma>7</meneame:karma>
		<meneame:url>https://www.meneame.net/story/basta-ya-5</meneame:url>
		<title>#9 ¡Basta Ya!</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/basta-ya-5/c09#c-9</link>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Jun 2017 08:54:18 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>--501427--</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[<p>[Usuario deshabilitado]</p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>--501427--</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<meneame:order>8</meneame:order>
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		<meneame:karma>16</meneame:karma>
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		<title>#8 ¡Basta Ya!</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/basta-ya-5/c08#c-8</link>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Jun 2017 08:53:30 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>--501427--</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[<p>[Usuario deshabilitado]</p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>--501427--</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<meneame:comment_id>22000087</meneame:comment_id>
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		<meneame:order>7</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>Maestro_Blaster</meneame:user>
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		<meneame:karma>13</meneame:karma>
		<meneame:url>https://www.meneame.net/story/basta-ya-5</meneame:url>
		<title>#7 ¡Basta Ya!</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/basta-ya-5/c07#c-7</link>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Jun 2017 08:52:08 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Maestro_Blaster</dc:creator>
		<guid>https://www.meneame.net/story/basta-ya-5/c07#c-7</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[<p><a class="tooltip c:2788431-5" href="https://www.meneame.net/story/basta-ya-5/c05#c-5" rel="nofollow">#5</a> sí, un dato inventado</p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>Maestro_Blaster</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<meneame:comment_id>22000084</meneame:comment_id>
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		<meneame:order>6</meneame:order>
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		<meneame:karma>14</meneame:karma>
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		<title>#6 ¡Basta Ya!</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/basta-ya-5/c06#c-6</link>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Jun 2017 08:52:00 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>--11417--</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[<p><a class="tooltip c:2788431-5" href="https://www.meneame.net/story/basta-ya-5/c05#c-5" rel="nofollow">#5</a> seguro que sí lo sabe, pero vamos, que aquí no tiene mucha relación, salvo que hayas venido a hablar de tu libro</p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>--11417--</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<title>#5 ¡Basta Ya!</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/basta-ya-5/c05#c-5</link>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Jun 2017 08:50:03 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>--501427--</dc:creator>
		<guid>https://www.meneame.net/story/basta-ya-5/c05#c-5</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[<p>[Usuario deshabilitado]</p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>--501427--</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<meneame:order>4</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>Maestro_Blaster</meneame:user>
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		<meneame:karma>13</meneame:karma>
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		<title>#4 ¡Basta Ya!</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/basta-ya-5/c04#c-4</link>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Jun 2017 08:43:49 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Maestro_Blaster</dc:creator>
		<guid>https://www.meneame.net/story/basta-ya-5/c04#c-4</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[<p><a class="tooltip c:2788431-2" href="https://www.meneame.net/story/basta-ya-5/c02#c-2" rel="nofollow">#2</a> La iatrogenia es la 3a causa de sacarte datos de la manga.</p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>Maestro_Blaster</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<meneame:comment_id>22000029</meneame:comment_id>
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		<meneame:order>3</meneame:order>
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		<meneame:votes>1</meneame:votes>
		<meneame:karma>26</meneame:karma>
		<meneame:url>https://www.meneame.net/story/basta-ya-5</meneame:url>
		<title>#3 ¡Basta Ya!</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/basta-ya-5/c03#c-3</link>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Jun 2017 08:41:31 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>--11417--</dc:creator>
		<guid>https://www.meneame.net/story/basta-ya-5/c03#c-3</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[<p><a class="tooltip c:2788431-1" href="https://www.meneame.net/story/basta-ya-5/c01#c-1" rel="nofollow">#1</a> El problema es en muchos casos que para discutir con este tipo de gente has de ponerte a su nivel (si pretendes que te entiendan) y ahí ya has perdido, porque en su nivel son expertos. <img data-src="https://cdn.mnmstatic.net/v_149/img/menemojis/36/troll.png" alt=":troll:" title=":troll:" width="18" height="18" src="https://cdn.mnmstatic.net/v_149/img/g.gif" class="emoji lazy" /></p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>--11417--</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<meneame:karma>16</meneame:karma>
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		<title>#2 ¡Basta Ya!</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/basta-ya-5/c02#c-2</link>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Jun 2017 08:38:21 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>--501427--</dc:creator>
		<guid>https://www.meneame.net/story/basta-ya-5/c02#c-2</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[<p>[Usuario deshabilitado]</p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>--501427--</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<meneame:order>1</meneame:order>
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		<meneame:votes>2</meneame:votes>
		<meneame:karma>23</meneame:karma>
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		<title>#1 ¡Basta Ya!</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/basta-ya-5/c01#c-1</link>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Jun 2017 08:36:33 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>skaworld</dc:creator>
		<guid>https://www.meneame.net/story/basta-ya-5/c01#c-1</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[<p>El problema es que comportarse correctamente sale caro, cada vez que un magufo suelta una subnormalidad, y le corriges, el debate suele acabar mal, tu te acbas convirtiendo en el malo intransigente y flipado sabelotodo que va de guay. Frases del tipo &#34;si no eres médico tu que sabras&#34; o demuestrame esos datos (y cuando le enseñas estadísticas que apenas sabe leer intentando explicarle la nube de puntos que ve te suelta que si que si pero ni puto caso) y eso cansa.<br />
<br />
Al final les dejas decir idioteces solo con tal de estar tranquilo, cedes, y poco a poco van ganando espacio hasta la proxima vez que tanta idiotez te toque los cojones y estalles y vuelvas a ser el malo.<br />
<br />
Y así una y otra vez, es una batalla en la que no puedes ganar.</p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>skaworld</strong></p>]]></description>
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