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		<title>#12 [ENG] Auténtica Pesadilla: USB-C y Thunderbolt 3</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/eng-autentica-pesadilla-usb-c-thunderbolt-3/c012#c-12</link>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Nov 2016 21:00:53 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>notanexpert</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[<p><a class="tooltip c:2694578-11" href="https://www.meneame.net/story/eng-autentica-pesadilla-usb-c-thunderbolt-3/c011#c-11" rel="nofollow">#11</a> Porque el cable USB engaña al negociador y le hace creer que es un dispositivo en vez de un cable (En los USB-C existe una negociación para que ambas partes sepan quién es quién y qué es lo que van a hacer.</p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>notanexpert</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<title>#11 [ENG] Auténtica Pesadilla: USB-C y Thunderbolt 3</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/eng-autentica-pesadilla-usb-c-thunderbolt-3/c011#c-11</link>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Nov 2016 20:50:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[<p>[Usuario deshabilitado]</p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>--524097--</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<meneame:order>10</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>notanexpert</meneame:user>
		<meneame:votes>1</meneame:votes>
		<meneame:karma>20</meneame:karma>
		<meneame:url>https://www.meneame.net/story/eng-autentica-pesadilla-usb-c-thunderbolt-3</meneame:url>
		<title>#10 [ENG] Auténtica Pesadilla: USB-C y Thunderbolt 3</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/eng-autentica-pesadilla-usb-c-thunderbolt-3/c010#c-10</link>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Nov 2016 20:40:47 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>notanexpert</dc:creator>
		<guid>https://www.meneame.net/story/eng-autentica-pesadilla-usb-c-thunderbolt-3/c010#c-10</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[<p><a class="tooltip c:2694578-9" href="https://www.meneame.net/story/eng-autentica-pesadilla-usb-c-thunderbolt-3/c09#c-9" rel="nofollow">#9</a> Nunca digas nunca jamás: <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SjeZB12985c" title="www.youtube.com/watch?v=SjeZB12985c" rel="nofollow">www.youtube.com/watch?v=SjeZB12985c</a></p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>notanexpert</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<meneame:order>9</meneame:order>
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		<title>#9 [ENG] Auténtica Pesadilla: USB-C y Thunderbolt 3</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Nov 2016 20:39:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<meneame:order>8</meneame:order>
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		<title>#8 [ENG] Auténtica Pesadilla: USB-C y Thunderbolt 3</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Nov 2016 20:37:21 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>notanexpert</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[<p><a class="tooltip c:2694578-5" href="https://www.meneame.net/story/eng-autentica-pesadilla-usb-c-thunderbolt-3/c05#c-5" rel="nofollow">#5</a> Pues ten cuidado porque algunos de esos dongles están mal hechos y pueden darle una potencia inadecuada a uno de los dispositivos conectados y acabar friéndolo.</p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>notanexpert</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<title>#7 [ENG] Auténtica Pesadilla: USB-C y Thunderbolt 3</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Nov 2016 20:35:35 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>notanexpert</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[<p><a class="tooltip c:2694578-6" href="https://www.meneame.net/story/eng-autentica-pesadilla-usb-c-thunderbolt-3/c06#c-6" rel="nofollow">#6</a> No es problema de Apple. Es un problema de USB. De hecho, probablemente el Nuevo Macbook Pro sea el dispositivo más compatible que haya con los estándares actuales. El problema es que los estándares de USB-C van cambiando...</p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>notanexpert</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<meneame:comment_id>20665976</meneame:comment_id>
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		<meneame:order>6</meneame:order>
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		<title>#6 [ENG] Auténtica Pesadilla: USB-C y Thunderbolt 3</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Nov 2016 20:22:36 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>--504295--</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[<p>Vaya marrones está sacando Apple últimamente. Y mira que si por algo destacaban sus dispositivos era por la sencillez de uso.</p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>--504295--</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<title>#5 [ENG] Auténtica Pesadilla: USB-C y Thunderbolt 3</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Nov 2016 20:07:26 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>--524097--</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[<p>[Usuario deshabilitado]</p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>--524097--</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<meneame:order>4</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>notanexpert</meneame:user>
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		<title>#4 [ENG] Auténtica Pesadilla: USB-C y Thunderbolt 3</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/eng-autentica-pesadilla-usb-c-thunderbolt-3/c04#c-4</link>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Nov 2016 19:52:15 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>notanexpert</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[<p>TL;DR<br />
<br />
<i>El problema principal con USB-C es la confusión: <b>No todos los cables USB-C, puertos, dispositivos y fuentes de alimentación serán compatibles</b>, y hay demasiadas combinaciones a tener en cuenta. Los modelos más nuevos y con compatibilidad completa (como el nuevo Touch Bar Macbook Pro) soportará la gran mayoría de los diferentes usos para el puerto USB-C, pero dispositivos más antiguos solo soportarán la velocidad USB 3.0 y (si tienes suerte) el Modo Alternativo DisplayPort.<br />
<br />
Y la cosa se pone peor, <b>Muchos periféricos USB-C están limitados en diversas formas también</b>. Considera un simple adaptador USB-C a HDMI: Podría implementar HDMI sobre USB 3.0 o podría utilizar el Modo Alternativo (nativo) HDMI. Podría también utilizar HDMI &#34;multiplexado&#34; con el Modo Alternativo de Thunderbolt o incluso (teóricamente) implementar HDMI sobre Thunderbolt utilizando una tarjeta gráfica externa. De estas opciones, solo los nuevos ordenadores, como el Macbook Pro, podrían utilizar las tres. ¿Eres capaz de imaginar la confusión de los consumidores cuando compren un adaptador &#34;USB-C a HDMI&#34; y comprobar que no funciona con su Macbook o Pixel o lo que sea?</i></p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>notanexpert</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<meneame:comment_id>20665745</meneame:comment_id>
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		<meneame:order>3</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>Vodker</meneame:user>
		<meneame:votes>0</meneame:votes>
		<meneame:karma>10</meneame:karma>
		<meneame:url>https://www.meneame.net/story/eng-autentica-pesadilla-usb-c-thunderbolt-3</meneame:url>
		<title>#3 [ENG] Auténtica Pesadilla: USB-C y Thunderbolt 3</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/eng-autentica-pesadilla-usb-c-thunderbolt-3/c03#c-3</link>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Nov 2016 19:42:15 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Vodker</dc:creator>
		<guid>https://www.meneame.net/story/eng-autentica-pesadilla-usb-c-thunderbolt-3/c03#c-3</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[<p><a class="tooltip c:2694578-2" href="https://www.meneame.net/story/eng-autentica-pesadilla-usb-c-thunderbolt-3/c02#c-2" rel="nofollow">#2</a> ok entonces. <img data-src="https://cdn.mnmstatic.net/v_149/img/menemojis/36/wink.png" alt=";)" title=";)" width="18" height="18" src="https://cdn.mnmstatic.net/v_149/img/g.gif" class="emoji lazy" /></p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>Vodker</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<meneame:comment_id>20665740</meneame:comment_id>
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		<meneame:order>2</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>notanexpert</meneame:user>
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		<meneame:url>https://www.meneame.net/story/eng-autentica-pesadilla-usb-c-thunderbolt-3</meneame:url>
		<title>#2 [ENG] Auténtica Pesadilla: USB-C y Thunderbolt 3</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/eng-autentica-pesadilla-usb-c-thunderbolt-3/c02#c-2</link>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Nov 2016 19:41:34 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>notanexpert</dc:creator>
		<guid>https://www.meneame.net/story/eng-autentica-pesadilla-usb-c-thunderbolt-3/c02#c-2</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[<p><a class="tooltip c:2694578-1" href="https://www.meneame.net/story/eng-autentica-pesadilla-usb-c-thunderbolt-3/c01#c-1" rel="nofollow">#1</a> No es lo mismo, es otro problema (además de éste)</p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>notanexpert</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<meneame:comment_id>20665732</meneame:comment_id>
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		<meneame:order>1</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>Vodker</meneame:user>
		<meneame:votes>0</meneame:votes>
		<meneame:karma>10</meneame:karma>
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		<title>#1 [ENG] Auténtica Pesadilla: USB-C y Thunderbolt 3</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/eng-autentica-pesadilla-usb-c-thunderbolt-3/c01#c-1</link>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Nov 2016 19:40:39 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Vodker</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[<p><a class="tooltip l:2694578" href="https://www.meneame.net/story/eng-autentica-pesadilla-usb-c-thunderbolt-3" rel="nofollow">#0</a> creo que <a href="https://www.meneame.net/story/nuevos-macbook-pro-son-incompatibles-mayoria-dispositivos-3-ale" title="www.meneame.net/story/nuevos-macbook-pro-son-incompatibles-mayoria-dispositivos-3-ale" rel="nofollow">www.meneame.net/story/nuevos-macbook-pro-son-incompatibles-mayoria-dis</a></p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>Vodker</strong></p>]]></description>
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