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		<meneame:comment_id>20259845</meneame:comment_id>
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		<meneame:order>40</meneame:order>
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		<title>#40 ¿Qué es el Gran Atractor?</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/que-gran-atractor/c040#c-40</link>
		<pubDate>Sat, 03 Sep 2016 07:19:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[<p><a class="tooltip c:2666004-39" href="https://www.meneame.net/story/que-gran-atractor/c039#c-39" rel="nofollow">#39</a> (también puede ser efecto <del>borrego</del> llamada)</p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>--523223--</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<meneame:comment_id>20259815</meneame:comment_id>
		<meneame:link_id>2666004</meneame:link_id>
		<meneame:order>39</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>--523223--</meneame:user>
		<meneame:votes>2</meneame:votes>
		<meneame:karma>19</meneame:karma>
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		<title>#39 ¿Qué es el Gran Atractor?</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/que-gran-atractor/c039#c-39</link>
		<pubDate>Sat, 03 Sep 2016 07:14:19 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>--523223--</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[<p><a class="tooltip c:2666004-24" href="https://www.meneame.net/story/que-gran-atractor/c024#c-24" rel="nofollow">#24</a> Mucho amargado suelto <img data-src="https://cdn.mnmstatic.net/v_149/img/menemojis/36/undecided.png" alt=":-/" title=":-/ :/" width="18" height="18" src="https://cdn.mnmstatic.net/v_149/img/g.gif" class="emoji lazy" /> O eso, o alguien con varias VPNs y un ejército de clones</p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>--523223--</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<meneame:comment_id>20259460</meneame:comment_id>
		<meneame:link_id>2666004</meneame:link_id>
		<meneame:order>38</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>mcfgdbbn3</meneame:user>
		<meneame:votes>1</meneame:votes>
		<meneame:karma>20</meneame:karma>
		<meneame:url>https://www.meneame.net/story/que-gran-atractor</meneame:url>
		<title>#38 ¿Qué es el Gran Atractor?</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/que-gran-atractor/c038#c-38</link>
		<pubDate>Sat, 03 Sep 2016 02:49:23 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>mcfgdbbn3</dc:creator>
		<guid>https://www.meneame.net/story/que-gran-atractor/c038#c-38</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[<p><a class="tooltip c:2666004-13" href="https://www.meneame.net/story/que-gran-atractor/c013#c-13" rel="nofollow">#13</a>: No has entrado en Forocoches, ahí el <i>pwnage</i> es mucho mayor.<br />
<br />
De todas formas tampoco hay mucho que comentar, yo lo he leído, entendido y en general está bien.<br />
<br />
Si estaría bien quizás hablar del flujo oscuro.</p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>mcfgdbbn3</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<meneame:comment_id>20254902</meneame:comment_id>
		<meneame:link_id>2666004</meneame:link_id>
		<meneame:order>37</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>--520660--</meneame:user>
		<meneame:votes>2</meneame:votes>
		<meneame:karma>30</meneame:karma>
		<meneame:url>https://www.meneame.net/story/que-gran-atractor</meneame:url>
		<title>#37 ¿Qué es el Gran Atractor?</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/que-gran-atractor/c037#c-37</link>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Sep 2016 11:48:57 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>--520660--</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[<p><a class="tooltip c:2666004-33" href="https://www.meneame.net/story/que-gran-atractor/c033#c-33" rel="nofollow">#33</a>, <a class="tooltip c:2666004-31" href="https://www.meneame.net/story/que-gran-atractor/c031#c-31" rel="nofollow">#31</a>. Yo, esta moda de ser anti-todo no la veo...<br />
Si esos medios &#34;se venden&#34; y luego acceden a convertirse en &#34;panfletos&#34; tendrán la mitad de culpa..., digo yo.<br />
Y, si se ponen a la venta, suele ser por dificultades financieras.<br />
En el caso de la NatGeo, la última vez que la compré, hará ya dos años, pagué sobre siete euros por un tocho de anuncios en la páginas pares, con algo de info útil en la impares, además de faldones con más publi. Infumable. Una real mierda, no me extraña que se fuera poco a poco a pique y se vendiera al millonettis de turno.<br />
En este caso creo que el timado fue el tal Murdoch, ademas de los lectores habituales (si es que quedaba alguno.)</p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>--520660--</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<meneame:comment_id>20254378</meneame:comment_id>
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		<meneame:order>36</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>mauser_c96</meneame:user>
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		<meneame:karma>19</meneame:karma>
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		<title>#36 ¿Qué es el Gran Atractor?</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/que-gran-atractor/c036#c-36</link>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Sep 2016 10:58:33 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>mauser_c96</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[<p><a class="tooltip c:2666004-35" href="https://www.meneame.net/story/que-gran-atractor/c035#c-35" rel="nofollow">#35</a> edit</p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>mauser_c96</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<meneame:comment_id>20254359</meneame:comment_id>
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		<meneame:order>35</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>mauser_c96</meneame:user>
		<meneame:votes>1</meneame:votes>
		<meneame:karma>18</meneame:karma>
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		<title>#35 ¿Qué es el Gran Atractor?</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/que-gran-atractor/c035#c-35</link>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Sep 2016 10:56:18 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>mauser_c96</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[<p><a class="tooltip c:2666004-30" href="https://www.meneame.net/story/que-gran-atractor/c030#c-30" rel="nofollow">#30</a> Mira, prefiero no escribirlo porque me podrían banear, así que te lo diré con un vídeo: <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ" title="www.youtube.com/watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ" rel="nofollow">www.youtube.com/watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ</a></p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>mauser_c96</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<meneame:comment_id>20254128</meneame:comment_id>
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		<meneame:order>34</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>jmav</meneame:user>
		<meneame:votes>3</meneame:votes>
		<meneame:karma>45</meneame:karma>
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		<title>#34 ¿Qué es el Gran Atractor?</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/que-gran-atractor/c034#c-34</link>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Sep 2016 10:27:39 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>jmav</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[<p><a class="tooltip c:2666004-6" href="https://www.meneame.net/story/que-gran-atractor/c06#c-6" rel="nofollow">#6</a> Los movimientos se deben a la:<br />
<br />
 .- Energía oscura (expansión del universo en referencia a l la constante cosmológica).<br />
 <br />
.- Materia bariónica con el efecto de la gravedad: Toda materia constituida por bariones y leptones (a excepción de determinados tipos de neutrinos).<br />
<br />
.- Materia oscura con el efecto de la gravedad (no detectada). <br />
<br />
Todo esto sin tener en cuenta los movimientos a nivel cuántico: Electrones, átomos, etc.  Y por qué no a nivel superior personas con su energía. <br />
<br />
Desde el punto de vista del universo es el movimiento de la expansión (energía oscura), y en el interior de ese espacio expansionándose tenemos los movimientos por la gravedad (que es el caso de la noticia como consecuencia de las galaxias (materia oscura y bariónica). <br />
<br />
Pueden existir otros movimientos, pero prefiero dejarlo y solo mencionarlo para determinar lo complicado y lo que queda por saber: se han detectado ondas gravitatorias (espacio comprimido o dilatado activo (es decir en movimiento))</p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>jmav</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<meneame:comment_id>20253971</meneame:comment_id>
		<meneame:link_id>2666004</meneame:link_id>
		<meneame:order>33</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>pedrobz</meneame:user>
		<meneame:votes>2</meneame:votes>
		<meneame:karma>24</meneame:karma>
		<meneame:url>https://www.meneame.net/story/que-gran-atractor</meneame:url>
		<title>#33 ¿Qué es el Gran Atractor?</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/que-gran-atractor/c033#c-33</link>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Sep 2016 10:12:09 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>pedrobz</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[<p><a class="tooltip c:2666004-27" href="https://www.meneame.net/story/que-gran-atractor/c027#c-27" rel="nofollow">#27</a> No, si el no se queja de la cantidad de publicidad, se queja de que se esta promocionando una revista de alguien que compra medios buenos y los convierte en panfletos, además de otras hijoputeces monopolísticas...</p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>pedrobz</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<meneame:comment_id>20253747</meneame:comment_id>
		<meneame:link_id>2666004</meneame:link_id>
		<meneame:order>32</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>m4t1t0</meneame:user>
		<meneame:votes>2</meneame:votes>
		<meneame:karma>-20</meneame:karma>
		<meneame:url>https://www.meneame.net/story/que-gran-atractor</meneame:url>
		<title>#32 ¿Qué es el Gran Atractor?</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/que-gran-atractor/c032#c-32</link>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Sep 2016 09:50:20 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>m4t1t0</dc:creator>
		<guid>https://www.meneame.net/story/que-gran-atractor/c032#c-32</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[<p>Ostia, han descubierto la localización de Falete en el espacio!</p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>m4t1t0</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<meneame:comment_id>20253714</meneame:comment_id>
		<meneame:link_id>2666004</meneame:link_id>
		<meneame:order>31</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>Jakeukalane</meneame:user>
		<meneame:votes>3</meneame:votes>
		<meneame:karma>48</meneame:karma>
		<meneame:url>https://www.meneame.net/story/que-gran-atractor</meneame:url>
		<title>#31 ¿Qué es el Gran Atractor?</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/que-gran-atractor/c031#c-31</link>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Sep 2016 09:47:27 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Jakeukalane</dc:creator>
		<guid>https://www.meneame.net/story/que-gran-atractor/c031#c-31</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[<p><a class="tooltip c:2666004-27" href="https://www.meneame.net/story/que-gran-atractor/c027#c-27" rel="nofollow">#27</a> <a class="tooltip c:2666004-22" href="https://www.meneame.net/story/que-gran-atractor/c022#c-22" rel="nofollow">#22</a> el problema no es la publi, es que NG sea de Murdoch...</p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>Jakeukalane</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<meneame:comment_id>20253709</meneame:comment_id>
		<meneame:link_id>2666004</meneame:link_id>
		<meneame:order>30</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>SenorLobo</meneame:user>
		<meneame:votes>1</meneame:votes>
		<meneame:karma>18</meneame:karma>
		<meneame:url>https://www.meneame.net/story/que-gran-atractor</meneame:url>
		<title>#30 ¿Qué es el Gran Atractor?</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/que-gran-atractor/c030#c-30</link>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Sep 2016 09:46:49 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>SenorLobo</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[<p><a class="tooltip c:2666004-23" href="https://www.meneame.net/story/que-gran-atractor/c023#c-23" rel="nofollow">#23</a> Ahora me dejas con la intriga!!!!!!!!! ¿Qué ponía antes? ¿¿¿QUÉ???</p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>SenorLobo</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<meneame:comment_id>20253655</meneame:comment_id>
		<meneame:link_id>2666004</meneame:link_id>
		<meneame:order>29</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>LuisPas</meneame:user>
		<meneame:votes>2</meneame:votes>
		<meneame:karma>37</meneame:karma>
		<meneame:url>https://www.meneame.net/story/que-gran-atractor</meneame:url>
		<title>#29 ¿Qué es el Gran Atractor?</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/que-gran-atractor/c029#c-29</link>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Sep 2016 09:41:38 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>LuisPas</dc:creator>
		<guid>https://www.meneame.net/story/que-gran-atractor/c029#c-29</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[<p><a class="tooltip c:2666004-19" href="https://www.meneame.net/story/que-gran-atractor/c019#c-19" rel="nofollow">#19</a> pues si, articulo muy bueno</p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>LuisPas</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<meneame:comment_id>20253532</meneame:comment_id>
		<meneame:link_id>2666004</meneame:link_id>
		<meneame:order>28</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>donsoul</meneame:user>
		<meneame:votes>1</meneame:votes>
		<meneame:karma>17</meneame:karma>
		<meneame:url>https://www.meneame.net/story/que-gran-atractor</meneame:url>
		<title>#28 ¿Qué es el Gran Atractor?</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/que-gran-atractor/c028#c-28</link>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Sep 2016 09:27:44 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>donsoul</dc:creator>
		<guid>https://www.meneame.net/story/que-gran-atractor/c028#c-28</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[<p><a class="tooltip c:2666004-6" href="https://www.meneame.net/story/que-gran-atractor/c06#c-6" rel="nofollow">#6</a> A lo mejor esto te lo aclaro un poco (o a lo mejor no): <a href="http://physics.stackexchange.com/questions/10933/why-do-we-say-that-the-earth-moves-around-the-sun" title="physics.stackexchange.com/questions/10933/why-do-we-say-that-the-earth-moves-around-the-sun" rel="nofollow">physics.stackexchange.com/questions/10933/why-do-we-say-that-the-earth</a></p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>donsoul</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<meneame:comment_id>20253279</meneame:comment_id>
		<meneame:link_id>2666004</meneame:link_id>
		<meneame:order>27</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>--520660--</meneame:user>
		<meneame:votes>2</meneame:votes>
		<meneame:karma>30</meneame:karma>
		<meneame:url>https://www.meneame.net/story/que-gran-atractor</meneame:url>
		<title>#27 ¿Qué es el Gran Atractor?</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/que-gran-atractor/c027#c-27</link>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Sep 2016 08:57:03 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>--520660--</dc:creator>
		<guid>https://www.meneame.net/story/que-gran-atractor/c027#c-27</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[<p><a class="tooltip c:2666004-22" href="https://www.meneame.net/story/que-gran-atractor/c022#c-22" rel="nofollow">#22</a>. Más publi para <a class="tooltip c:2666004-11" href="https://www.meneame.net/story/que-gran-atractor/c011#c-11" rel="nofollow">#11</a>...<br />
Si no querías <em>taza</em>, taza y media.</p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>--520660--</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<meneame:comment_id>20253251</meneame:comment_id>
		<meneame:link_id>2666004</meneame:link_id>
		<meneame:order>26</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>--520660--</meneame:user>
		<meneame:votes>2</meneame:votes>
		<meneame:karma>31</meneame:karma>
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		<title>#26 ¿Qué es el Gran Atractor?</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/que-gran-atractor/c026#c-26</link>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Sep 2016 08:53:24 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>--520660--</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[<p><a class="tooltip c:2666004-8" href="https://www.meneame.net/story/que-gran-atractor/c08#c-8" rel="nofollow">#8</a>. En cierto modo. El Gran Atractor sólo explicaba un 40 % del tirón gravitacional, y coincide en rumbo hacia el supercúmulo de Shapley, que pilla justo detrás. Casualidades...</p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>--520660--</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<meneame:comment_id>20253123</meneame:comment_id>
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		<meneame:order>25</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>RojoVelasco</meneame:user>
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		<meneame:karma>40</meneame:karma>
		<meneame:url>https://www.meneame.net/story/que-gran-atractor</meneame:url>
		<title>#25 ¿Qué es el Gran Atractor?</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/que-gran-atractor/c025#c-25</link>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Sep 2016 08:34:48 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>RojoVelasco</dc:creator>
		<guid>https://www.meneame.net/story/que-gran-atractor/c025#c-25</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[<p><a class="tooltip c:2666004-16" href="https://www.meneame.net/story/que-gran-atractor/c016#c-16" rel="nofollow">#16</a> Yo creo que el lenguaje nos engaña a ese respecto. Lo que se expande es el espacio-tiempo, y en consecuencia la matería que lo ocupa.</p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>RojoVelasco</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<meneame:comment_id>20252804</meneame:comment_id>
		<meneame:link_id>2666004</meneame:link_id>
		<meneame:order>24</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>xizor</meneame:user>
		<meneame:votes>4</meneame:votes>
		<meneame:karma>23</meneame:karma>
		<meneame:url>https://www.meneame.net/story/que-gran-atractor</meneame:url>
		<title>#24 ¿Qué es el Gran Atractor?</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/que-gran-atractor/c024#c-24</link>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Sep 2016 07:53:33 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>xizor</dc:creator>
		<guid>https://www.meneame.net/story/que-gran-atractor/c024#c-24</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[<p><a class="tooltip c:2666004-1" href="https://www.meneame.net/story/que-gran-atractor/c01#c-1" rel="nofollow">#1</a> ¿Por que los negativos? Es el tipico chiste tontaina que se pone en el comentario numero 1...</p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>xizor</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<meneame:comment_id>20252766</meneame:comment_id>
		<meneame:link_id>2666004</meneame:link_id>
		<meneame:order>23</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>mauser_c96</meneame:user>
		<meneame:votes>0</meneame:votes>
		<meneame:karma>10</meneame:karma>
		<meneame:url>https://www.meneame.net/story/que-gran-atractor</meneame:url>
		<title>#23 ¿Qué es el Gran Atractor?</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/que-gran-atractor/c023#c-23</link>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Sep 2016 07:45:56 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>mauser_c96</dc:creator>
		<guid>https://www.meneame.net/story/que-gran-atractor/c023#c-23</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[<p><a class="tooltip c:2666004-10" href="https://www.meneame.net/story/que-gran-atractor/c010#c-10" rel="nofollow">#10</a> edit</p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>mauser_c96</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<meneame:comment_id>20252670</meneame:comment_id>
		<meneame:link_id>2666004</meneame:link_id>
		<meneame:order>22</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>pedrobz</meneame:user>
		<meneame:votes>5</meneame:votes>
		<meneame:karma>61</meneame:karma>
		<meneame:url>https://www.meneame.net/story/que-gran-atractor</meneame:url>
		<title>#22 ¿Qué es el Gran Atractor?</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/que-gran-atractor/c022#c-22</link>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Sep 2016 07:27:40 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>pedrobz</dc:creator>
		<guid>https://www.meneame.net/story/que-gran-atractor/c022#c-22</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[<p><a class="tooltip c:2666004-11" href="https://www.meneame.net/story/que-gran-atractor/c011#c-11" rel="nofollow">#11</a> Yo entiendo que chafe, y como es inevitable, te sugiero que al menos te relajes un poco, por ejemplo, tomando una taza de café <a href="http://www.amazon.es/Universo-Taza-Café-Para-curiosos/dp/8449331560" title="www.amazon.es/Universo-Taza-Café-Para-curiosos/dp/8449331560" rel="nofollow">www.amazon.es/Universo-Taza-Café-Para-curiosos/dp/8449331560</a></p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>pedrobz</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<meneame:comment_id>20252635</meneame:comment_id>
		<meneame:link_id>2666004</meneame:link_id>
		<meneame:order>21</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>--423823--</meneame:user>
		<meneame:votes>5</meneame:votes>
		<meneame:karma>-1</meneame:karma>
		<meneame:url>https://www.meneame.net/story/que-gran-atractor</meneame:url>
		<title>#21 ¿Qué es el Gran Atractor?</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/que-gran-atractor/c021#c-21</link>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Sep 2016 07:22:25 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>--423823--</dc:creator>
		<guid>https://www.meneame.net/story/que-gran-atractor/c021#c-21</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[<p>El coño de mi vecina</p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>--423823--</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<meneame:comment_id>20252548</meneame:comment_id>
		<meneame:link_id>2666004</meneame:link_id>
		<meneame:order>20</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>joseac</meneame:user>
		<meneame:votes>3</meneame:votes>
		<meneame:karma>14</meneame:karma>
		<meneame:url>https://www.meneame.net/story/que-gran-atractor</meneame:url>
		<title>#20 ¿Qué es el Gran Atractor?</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/que-gran-atractor/c020#c-20</link>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Sep 2016 07:05:24 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>joseac</dc:creator>
		<guid>https://www.meneame.net/story/que-gran-atractor/c020#c-20</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[<p>El rayo tractor de la estrella de la muerte.</p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>joseac</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<meneame:comment_id>20252322</meneame:comment_id>
		<meneame:link_id>2666004</meneame:link_id>
		<meneame:order>19</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>SpeakerBR</meneame:user>
		<meneame:votes>3</meneame:votes>
		<meneame:karma>47</meneame:karma>
		<meneame:url>https://www.meneame.net/story/que-gran-atractor</meneame:url>
		<title>#19 ¿Qué es el Gran Atractor?</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/que-gran-atractor/c019#c-19</link>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Sep 2016 06:26:29 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>SpeakerBR</dc:creator>
		<guid>https://www.meneame.net/story/que-gran-atractor/c019#c-19</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[<p>Articulo muy interesante sobre los últimos descubrimientos sobre el Gran Atractor. Me ha sido grato descubrir algo nuevo.</p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>SpeakerBR</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<meneame:comment_id>20252207</meneame:comment_id>
		<meneame:link_id>2666004</meneame:link_id>
		<meneame:order>18</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>--54026--</meneame:user>
		<meneame:votes>5</meneame:votes>
		<meneame:karma>51</meneame:karma>
		<meneame:url>https://www.meneame.net/story/que-gran-atractor</meneame:url>
		<title>#18 ¿Qué es el Gran Atractor?</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/que-gran-atractor/c018#c-18</link>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Sep 2016 05:57:28 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>--54026--</dc:creator>
		<guid>https://www.meneame.net/story/que-gran-atractor/c018#c-18</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[<p>[Usuario deshabilitado]</p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>--54026--</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<meneame:comment_id>20252206</meneame:comment_id>
		<meneame:link_id>2666004</meneame:link_id>
		<meneame:order>17</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>EdmundoDantes</meneame:user>
		<meneame:votes>12</meneame:votes>
		<meneame:karma>96</meneame:karma>
		<meneame:url>https://www.meneame.net/story/que-gran-atractor</meneame:url>
		<title>#17 ¿Qué es el Gran Atractor?</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/que-gran-atractor/c017#c-17</link>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Sep 2016 05:57:20 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>EdmundoDantes</dc:creator>
		<guid>https://www.meneame.net/story/que-gran-atractor/c017#c-17</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[<p><a class="tooltip c:2666004-6" href="https://www.meneame.net/story/que-gran-atractor/c06#c-6" rel="nofollow">#6</a> No es fácil de visualizar, pero yo lo veo así. Antes de empezar, un disclaimer, estudié física, pero hace ya unos cuantos años, puede que no recuerde bien algo (o que esté completamente equivocado <img data-src="https://cdn.mnmstatic.net/v_149/img/menemojis/36/lol.gif" alt="xD" title=":lol: xD" width="18" height="18" src="https://cdn.mnmstatic.net/v_149/img/g.gif" class="emoji lazy" />). <br />
<br />
Tú imagina que estás en un barco en planeta que es todo agua, estilo waterworld, pero que además no gira alrededor de ningún sol ni nada, es solo una bola de agua en mitad del universo. Este planeta tiene un viento en cada dirección que da la vuelta al planeta constantemente, y de alguna manera los vientos opuestos no se cancelan. Mientras estés quieto, todos los vientos te llegan con la misma fuerza y no notas nada. Pero si empiezas a moverte en una dirección de pronto hay un viento que te da con más fuerza, el que viene en dirección contraria, y otro que te da con menos fuerza, el que va en tu dirección. ¿Significa esto que haya algún punto privilegiado de referencia en el mapa? No, si tú pones el mapa del planeta en 2D, el centro puedes ser siempre tú, porque no hay nada más y el resto es todo agua. Lo que sí pasa es que hay algo que te indica que te mueves en una dirección.</p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>EdmundoDantes</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<meneame:comment_id>20252184</meneame:comment_id>
		<meneame:link_id>2666004</meneame:link_id>
		<meneame:order>16</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>--32677--</meneame:user>
		<meneame:votes>1</meneame:votes>
		<meneame:karma>22</meneame:karma>
		<meneame:url>https://www.meneame.net/story/que-gran-atractor</meneame:url>
		<title>#16 ¿Qué es el Gran Atractor?</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/que-gran-atractor/c016#c-16</link>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Sep 2016 05:49:12 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>--32677--</dc:creator>
		<guid>https://www.meneame.net/story/que-gran-atractor/c016#c-16</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[<p><a class="tooltip c:2666004-6" href="https://www.meneame.net/story/que-gran-atractor/c06#c-6" rel="nofollow">#6</a> siempre he leido que las observaciones indican que el universo se expande. Y además parece ser que los objetos más lejanos lo hacen a mayor velocidad.<br />
No sé si te aclara algo eso.</p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>--32677--</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<meneame:comment_id>20252174</meneame:comment_id>
		<meneame:link_id>2666004</meneame:link_id>
		<meneame:order>15</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>--32677--</meneame:user>
		<meneame:votes>2</meneame:votes>
		<meneame:karma>25</meneame:karma>
		<meneame:url>https://www.meneame.net/story/que-gran-atractor</meneame:url>
		<title>#15 ¿Qué es el Gran Atractor?</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/que-gran-atractor/c015#c-15</link>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Sep 2016 05:47:07 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>--32677--</dc:creator>
		<guid>https://www.meneame.net/story/que-gran-atractor/c015#c-15</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[<p>Oye pos me he leído todo el artículo y me ha parecido muy interesante. Me atrae <img data-src="https://cdn.mnmstatic.net/v_149/img/menemojis/36/lol.gif" alt="xD" title=":lol: xD" width="18" height="18" src="https://cdn.mnmstatic.net/v_149/img/g.gif" class="emoji lazy" />.</p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>--32677--</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<meneame:comment_id>20252110</meneame:comment_id>
		<meneame:link_id>2666004</meneame:link_id>
		<meneame:order>14</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>panino</meneame:user>
		<meneame:votes>0</meneame:votes>
		<meneame:karma>6</meneame:karma>
		<meneame:url>https://www.meneame.net/story/que-gran-atractor</meneame:url>
		<title>#14 ¿Qué es el Gran Atractor?</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/que-gran-atractor/c014#c-14</link>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Sep 2016 05:27:01 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>panino</dc:creator>
		<guid>https://www.meneame.net/story/que-gran-atractor/c014#c-14</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[<p><a class="tooltip c:2666004-13" href="https://www.meneame.net/story/que-gran-atractor/c013#c-13" rel="nofollow">#13</a> ¿No era taringa?</p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>panino</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<meneame:comment_id>20252104</meneame:comment_id>
		<meneame:link_id>2666004</meneame:link_id>
		<meneame:order>13</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>taktak</meneame:user>
		<meneame:votes>9</meneame:votes>
		<meneame:karma>60</meneame:karma>
		<meneame:url>https://www.meneame.net/story/que-gran-atractor</meneame:url>
		<title>#13 ¿Qué es el Gran Atractor?</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/que-gran-atractor/c013#c-13</link>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Sep 2016 05:25:05 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>taktak</dc:creator>
		<guid>https://www.meneame.net/story/que-gran-atractor/c013#c-13</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[<p>No sabía que tenía cuenta en Forocoches...<br />
<br />
Genial artículo, bastante claro para los que como yo no tienen mucha idea del espacio.</p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>taktak</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<meneame:comment_id>20252047</meneame:comment_id>
		<meneame:link_id>2666004</meneame:link_id>
		<meneame:order>12</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>soundnessia</meneame:user>
		<meneame:votes>6</meneame:votes>
		<meneame:karma>-32</meneame:karma>
		<meneame:url>https://www.meneame.net/story/que-gran-atractor</meneame:url>
		<title>#12 ¿Qué es el Gran Atractor?</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/que-gran-atractor/c012#c-12</link>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Sep 2016 05:03:19 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>soundnessia</dc:creator>
		<guid>https://www.meneame.net/story/que-gran-atractor/c012#c-12</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[<p>Pues un tractor con la letra a delante</p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>soundnessia</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<meneame:comment_id>20252009</meneame:comment_id>
		<meneame:link_id>2666004</meneame:link_id>
		<meneame:order>11</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>Jakeukalane</meneame:user>
		<meneame:votes>1</meneame:votes>
		<meneame:karma>23</meneame:karma>
		<meneame:url>https://www.meneame.net/story/que-gran-atractor</meneame:url>
		<title>#11 ¿Qué es el Gran Atractor?</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/que-gran-atractor/c011#c-11</link>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Sep 2016 04:27:32 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Jakeukalane</dc:creator>
		<guid>https://www.meneame.net/story/que-gran-atractor/c011#c-11</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[<p>Me chafa un poco el final con la publicidad de National Geographic, propiedad ahora de Rupert Murdoch.</p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>Jakeukalane</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<meneame:comment_id>20251998</meneame:comment_id>
		<meneame:link_id>2666004</meneame:link_id>
		<meneame:order>10</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>--174--</meneame:user>
		<meneame:votes>41</meneame:votes>
		<meneame:karma>294</meneame:karma>
		<meneame:url>https://www.meneame.net/story/que-gran-atractor</meneame:url>
		<title>#10 ¿Qué es el Gran Atractor?</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/que-gran-atractor/c010#c-10</link>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Sep 2016 04:18:46 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>--174--</dc:creator>
		<guid>https://www.meneame.net/story/que-gran-atractor/c010#c-10</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[<p><a class="tooltip c:2666004-1" href="https://www.meneame.net/story/que-gran-atractor/c01#c-1" rel="nofollow">#1</a>: Ay ke ber! Qué poca escultura tienes.<br />
Esto es el gran atractor.<br />
<br />
 </p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>--174--</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<meneame:comment_id>20251989</meneame:comment_id>
		<meneame:link_id>2666004</meneame:link_id>
		<meneame:order>9</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>Trompo</meneame:user>
		<meneame:votes>5</meneame:votes>
		<meneame:karma>53</meneame:karma>
		<meneame:url>https://www.meneame.net/story/que-gran-atractor</meneame:url>
		<title>#9 ¿Qué es el Gran Atractor?</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/que-gran-atractor/c09#c-9</link>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Sep 2016 04:04:29 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Trompo</dc:creator>
		<guid>https://www.meneame.net/story/que-gran-atractor/c09#c-9</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[<p><a class="tooltip c:2666004-8" href="https://www.meneame.net/story/que-gran-atractor/c08#c-8" rel="nofollow">#8</a> Más bien parece que ser que existe un Gran Gran Atractor.</p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>Trompo</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<meneame:comment_id>20251971</meneame:comment_id>
		<meneame:link_id>2666004</meneame:link_id>
		<meneame:order>8</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>--324579--</meneame:user>
		<meneame:votes>2</meneame:votes>
		<meneame:karma>26</meneame:karma>
		<meneame:url>https://www.meneame.net/story/que-gran-atractor</meneame:url>
		<title>#8 ¿Qué es el Gran Atractor?</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/que-gran-atractor/c08#c-8</link>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Sep 2016 03:34:18 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>--324579--</dc:creator>
		<guid>https://www.meneame.net/story/que-gran-atractor/c08#c-8</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[<p>¿ Se han cargado entonces la hipótesis del gran atractor, entonces ?</p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>--324579--</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<meneame:comment_id>20251802</meneame:comment_id>
		<meneame:link_id>2666004</meneame:link_id>
		<meneame:order>7</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>Zerberus</meneame:user>
		<meneame:votes>16</meneame:votes>
		<meneame:karma>5</meneame:karma>
		<meneame:url>https://www.meneame.net/story/que-gran-atractor</meneame:url>
		<title>#7 ¿Qué es el Gran Atractor?</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/que-gran-atractor/c07#c-7</link>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Sep 2016 00:30:13 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Zerberus</dc:creator>
		<guid>https://www.meneame.net/story/que-gran-atractor/c07#c-7</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[<p>¿Quién será?</p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>Zerberus</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<meneame:comment_id>20251663</meneame:comment_id>
		<meneame:link_id>2666004</meneame:link_id>
		<meneame:order>6</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>sergiobe</meneame:user>
		<meneame:votes>20</meneame:votes>
		<meneame:karma>147</meneame:karma>
		<meneame:url>https://www.meneame.net/story/que-gran-atractor</meneame:url>
		<title>#6 ¿Qué es el Gran Atractor?</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/que-gran-atractor/c06#c-6</link>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Sep 2016 23:33:54 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>sergiobe</dc:creator>
		<guid>https://www.meneame.net/story/que-gran-atractor/c06#c-6</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[<p>Vaya nivelón en los comentarios tenemos hoy en Menéame, ¿eh?<br />
<br />
De los del meneo me ha gustado éste:<br />
&#34;<i>El desplazamiento hacia el rojo y el azul lo entiendo cuando nos movemos en relación a algo concreto (entre nosotros y otra estrella, nosotros y otra galaxia…)<br />
Lo que no entiendo es en relación a qué nos movemos. Entiendo que veamos el supercúmulo con corrimiento hacia el azul, pero no entiendo ese efecto sobre el fondo de microondas. Nos movemos hacia la izquierda, pero cuál es el punto de referencia? Quien me dice que a la vez no me muevo hacia la derecha atraído por otro cúmulo más grande?<br />
Eso significa que sé la velocidad absoluta a la que me muevo? Es posible quedarse “quieto” en el universo?<br />
Yo creía que no había una referencia fija de movimiento…</i>&#34;</p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>sergiobe</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<meneame:comment_id>20251655</meneame:comment_id>
		<meneame:link_id>2666004</meneame:link_id>
		<meneame:order>5</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>JanSmite</meneame:user>
		<meneame:votes>6</meneame:votes>
		<meneame:karma>-11</meneame:karma>
		<meneame:url>https://www.meneame.net/story/que-gran-atractor</meneame:url>
		<title>#5 ¿Qué es el Gran Atractor?</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/que-gran-atractor/c05#c-5</link>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Sep 2016 23:31:38 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>JanSmite</dc:creator>
		<guid>https://www.meneame.net/story/que-gran-atractor/c05#c-5</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[<p>¿Yo?<br />
<br />
<img data-src="https://cdn.mnmstatic.net/v_149/img/menemojis/36/shit.png" alt=":shit:" title=":shit:" width="18" height="18" src="https://cdn.mnmstatic.net/v_149/img/g.gif" class="emoji lazy" /></p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>JanSmite</strong></p>]]></description>
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	<item>
		<meneame:comment_id>20251211</meneame:comment_id>
		<meneame:link_id>2666004</meneame:link_id>
		<meneame:order>4</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>--1397--</meneame:user>
		<meneame:votes>6</meneame:votes>
		<meneame:karma>13</meneame:karma>
		<meneame:url>https://www.meneame.net/story/que-gran-atractor</meneame:url>
		<title>#4 ¿Qué es el Gran Atractor?</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/que-gran-atractor/c04#c-4</link>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Sep 2016 21:49:55 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>--1397--</dc:creator>
		<guid>https://www.meneame.net/story/que-gran-atractor/c04#c-4</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[<p>Como una gran amoto.</p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>--1397--</strong></p>]]></description>
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	<item>
		<meneame:comment_id>20251158</meneame:comment_id>
		<meneame:link_id>2666004</meneame:link_id>
		<meneame:order>3</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>PJF</meneame:user>
		<meneame:votes>7</meneame:votes>
		<meneame:karma>-8</meneame:karma>
		<meneame:url>https://www.meneame.net/story/que-gran-atractor</meneame:url>
		<title>#3 ¿Qué es el Gran Atractor?</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/que-gran-atractor/c03#c-3</link>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Sep 2016 21:41:42 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>PJF</dc:creator>
		<guid>https://www.meneame.net/story/que-gran-atractor/c03#c-3</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[<p>El anillo único.</p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>PJF</strong></p>]]></description>
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	<item>
		<meneame:comment_id>20251092</meneame:comment_id>
		<meneame:link_id>2666004</meneame:link_id>
		<meneame:order>2</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>kullraith</meneame:user>
		<meneame:votes>11</meneame:votes>
		<meneame:karma>3</meneame:karma>
		<meneame:url>https://www.meneame.net/story/que-gran-atractor</meneame:url>
		<title>#2 ¿Qué es el Gran Atractor?</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/que-gran-atractor/c02#c-2</link>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Sep 2016 21:31:20 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>kullraith</dc:creator>
		<guid>https://www.meneame.net/story/que-gran-atractor/c02#c-2</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[<p>Una evolución de voltorp o de magnemite</p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>kullraith</strong></p>]]></description>
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	<item>
		<meneame:comment_id>20251076</meneame:comment_id>
		<meneame:link_id>2666004</meneame:link_id>
		<meneame:order>1</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>--523223--</meneame:user>
		<meneame:votes>19</meneame:votes>
		<meneame:karma>35</meneame:karma>
		<meneame:url>https://www.meneame.net/story/que-gran-atractor</meneame:url>
		<title>#1 ¿Qué es el Gran Atractor?</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/que-gran-atractor/c01#c-1</link>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Sep 2016 21:25:48 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>--523223--</dc:creator>
		<guid>https://www.meneame.net/story/que-gran-atractor/c01#c-1</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[<p>Pues un Julio Iglesias a nivel cósmico</p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>--523223--</strong></p>]]></description>
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