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	<pubDate>Thu, 06 Jul 2006 20:42:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<meneame:comment_id>87332</meneame:comment_id>
		<meneame:link_id>24740</meneame:link_id>
		<meneame:order>10</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>jdeveloper</meneame:user>
		<meneame:votes>0</meneame:votes>
		<meneame:karma>8</meneame:karma>
		<meneame:url>https://www.meneame.net/story/cae-gran-muralla-electronica-china</meneame:url>
		<title>#10 Cae la gran &#34;muralla electrónica&#34; china</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/cae-gran-muralla-electronica-china/c010#c-10</link>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Jul 2006 20:42:42 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>jdeveloper</dc:creator>
		<guid>https://www.meneame.net/story/cae-gran-muralla-electronica-china/c010#c-10</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[<p>Esto es lo que convierte a unos grandes hackers en unos autenticos imbéciles.</p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>jdeveloper</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<meneame:comment_id>86533</meneame:comment_id>
		<meneame:link_id>24740</meneame:link_id>
		<meneame:order>9</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>bill_puertas</meneame:user>
		<meneame:votes>0</meneame:votes>
		<meneame:karma>6</meneame:karma>
		<meneame:url>https://www.meneame.net/story/cae-gran-muralla-electronica-china</meneame:url>
		<title>#9 Cae la gran &#34;muralla electrónica&#34; china</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/cae-gran-muralla-electronica-china/c09#c-9</link>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Jul 2006 21:12:19 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>bill_puertas</dc:creator>
		<guid>https://www.meneame.net/story/cae-gran-muralla-electronica-china/c09#c-9</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[<p>Una cosa es que espíen a los ciudadanos (eso lo hacen TODOS los gobiernos en mayor o menos medida) y otra cosa es que ni siquiera se tenga la oportunidad de expresarse.<br />
<br />
En USA te expresas, google te indexa, te espían y te censuran (aún seguimos disponiendo de la caché de google). En China te expresas, y el firewall te censura. No disponemos de nada.<br />
<br />
Y no sólo es el caso de expresarse, si no también a la hora de poder acceder a la información. En USA accedes, en China no.</p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>bill_puertas</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<meneame:comment_id>86477</meneame:comment_id>
		<meneame:link_id>24740</meneame:link_id>
		<meneame:order>8</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>--5066--</meneame:user>
		<meneame:votes>0</meneame:votes>
		<meneame:karma>8</meneame:karma>
		<meneame:url>https://www.meneame.net/story/cae-gran-muralla-electronica-china</meneame:url>
		<title>#8 Cae la gran &#34;muralla electrónica&#34; china</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/cae-gran-muralla-electronica-china/c08#c-8</link>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Jul 2006 19:28:06 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>--5066--</dc:creator>
		<guid>https://www.meneame.net/story/cae-gran-muralla-electronica-china/c08#c-8</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[<p>[Usuario deshabilitado]</p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>--5066--</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<meneame:comment_id>86458</meneame:comment_id>
		<meneame:link_id>24740</meneame:link_id>
		<meneame:order>7</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>dnnd</meneame:user>
		<meneame:votes>0</meneame:votes>
		<meneame:karma>6</meneame:karma>
		<meneame:url>https://www.meneame.net/story/cae-gran-muralla-electronica-china</meneame:url>
		<title>#7 Cae la gran &#34;muralla electrónica&#34; china</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/cae-gran-muralla-electronica-china/c07#c-7</link>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Jul 2006 18:33:58 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>dnnd</dc:creator>
		<guid>https://www.meneame.net/story/cae-gran-muralla-electronica-china/c07#c-7</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[<p>Workshop on Privacy Enhancing Technologies in Cambridge: thanks, the history will remember your &#34;good work&#34; against the liberty.<br />
<br />
La historia recordará no solo que un grupo de trabajo de Cambridge ayudó a limitar la libertad sino que lo hicieron sin ni siquiera evitar que se supiera.</p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>dnnd</strong></p>]]></description>
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	<item>
		<meneame:comment_id>86434</meneame:comment_id>
		<meneame:link_id>24740</meneame:link_id>
		<meneame:order>6</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>mini-d</meneame:user>
		<meneame:votes>0</meneame:votes>
		<meneame:karma>6</meneame:karma>
		<meneame:url>https://www.meneame.net/story/cae-gran-muralla-electronica-china</meneame:url>
		<title>#6 Cae la gran &#34;muralla electrónica&#34; china</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/cae-gran-muralla-electronica-china/c06#c-6</link>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Jul 2006 17:40:29 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>mini-d</dc:creator>
		<guid>https://www.meneame.net/story/cae-gran-muralla-electronica-china/c06#c-6</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[<p>habrán hecho el trabajito de forma &#34;altruísta&#34;?</p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>mini-d</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<meneame:comment_id>86385</meneame:comment_id>
		<meneame:link_id>24740</meneame:link_id>
		<meneame:order>5</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>bill_puertas</meneame:user>
		<meneame:votes>0</meneame:votes>
		<meneame:karma>6</meneame:karma>
		<meneame:url>https://www.meneame.net/story/cae-gran-muralla-electronica-china</meneame:url>
		<title>#5 Cae la gran &#34;muralla electrónica&#34; china</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/cae-gran-muralla-electronica-china/c05#c-5</link>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Jul 2006 15:52:08 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>bill_puertas</dc:creator>
		<guid>https://www.meneame.net/story/cae-gran-muralla-electronica-china/c05#c-5</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[<p>Eso es solidaridad ¿verdad?. A evr si es verdad lo de que Oxford en mejor que Cambridge <img data-src="https://cdn.mnmstatic.net/v_149/img/menemojis/36/lol.gif" alt="xD" title=":lol: xD" width="18" height="18" src="https://cdn.mnmstatic.net/v_149/img/g.gif" class="emoji lazy" />XD</p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>bill_puertas</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<meneame:comment_id>86267</meneame:comment_id>
		<meneame:link_id>24740</meneame:link_id>
		<meneame:order>4</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>--4780--</meneame:user>
		<meneame:votes>0</meneame:votes>
		<meneame:karma>7</meneame:karma>
		<meneame:url>https://www.meneame.net/story/cae-gran-muralla-electronica-china</meneame:url>
		<title>#4 Cae la gran &#34;muralla electrónica&#34; china</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/cae-gran-muralla-electronica-china/c04#c-4</link>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Jul 2006 13:24:18 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>--4780--</dc:creator>
		<guid>https://www.meneame.net/story/cae-gran-muralla-electronica-china/c04#c-4</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[<p>[Usuario deshabilitado]</p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>--4780--</strong></p>]]></description>
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	<item>
		<meneame:comment_id>86168</meneame:comment_id>
		<meneame:link_id>24740</meneame:link_id>
		<meneame:order>3</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>vicious</meneame:user>
		<meneame:votes>0</meneame:votes>
		<meneame:karma>7</meneame:karma>
		<meneame:url>https://www.meneame.net/story/cae-gran-muralla-electronica-china</meneame:url>
		<title>#3 Cae la gran &#34;muralla electrónica&#34; china</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/cae-gran-muralla-electronica-china/c03#c-3</link>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Jul 2006 11:15:39 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>vicious</dc:creator>
		<guid>https://www.meneame.net/story/cae-gran-muralla-electronica-china/c03#c-3</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[<p>Simplemente cojonudo por ellos, se tienen ganado el cielo chino, no te jode... a ver si tienen güevos a poner un email donde poder contactarlos por unos cuantos millones de chinos, que seguro que están deseando darles las gracias...</p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>vicious</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<meneame:comment_id>86164</meneame:comment_id>
		<meneame:link_id>24740</meneame:link_id>
		<meneame:order>2</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>--1994--</meneame:user>
		<meneame:votes>0</meneame:votes>
		<meneame:karma>19</meneame:karma>
		<meneame:url>https://www.meneame.net/story/cae-gran-muralla-electronica-china</meneame:url>
		<title>#2 Cae la gran &#34;muralla electrónica&#34; china</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/cae-gran-muralla-electronica-china/c02#c-2</link>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Jul 2006 11:09:53 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>--1994--</dc:creator>
		<guid>https://www.meneame.net/story/cae-gran-muralla-electronica-china/c02#c-2</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[<p>Sin embargo, han informado de este descubrimiento a las autoridades chinas de forma que puedan resolver el problema. No es la primera vez que los genios de Cambridge ayudan a una potencia comunista a mejorar sus mecanismos de seguridad.<br />
<br />
Pues nada, si alguien encuentra un fallo en la red de Al Qaeda que se lo haga saber también.</p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>--1994--</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<meneame:comment_id>86112</meneame:comment_id>
		<meneame:link_id>24740</meneame:link_id>
		<meneame:order>1</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>--1341--</meneame:user>
		<meneame:votes>0</meneame:votes>
		<meneame:karma>15</meneame:karma>
		<meneame:url>https://www.meneame.net/story/cae-gran-muralla-electronica-china</meneame:url>
		<title>#1 Cae la gran &#34;muralla electrónica&#34; china</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/cae-gran-muralla-electronica-china/c01#c-1</link>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Jul 2006 09:59:31 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>--1341--</dc:creator>
		<guid>https://www.meneame.net/story/cae-gran-muralla-electronica-china/c01#c-1</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[<p>[Usuario deshabilitado]</p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>--1341--</strong></p>]]></description>
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