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		<meneame:comment_id>1033651</meneame:comment_id>
		<meneame:link_id>227937</meneame:link_id>
		<meneame:order>50</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>--3793--</meneame:user>
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		<meneame:karma>6</meneame:karma>
		<meneame:url>https://www.meneame.net/story/ilusion-optica-pero-para-oidos-vid</meneame:url>
		<title>#50 Ilusion  óptica, pero para los oidos [vid]</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/ilusion-optica-pero-para-oidos-vid/c050#c-50</link>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Oct 2007 10:42:49 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>--3793--</dc:creator>
		<guid>https://www.meneame.net/story/ilusion-optica-pero-para-oidos-vid/c050#c-50</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[<p>Muy curioso, gracias! <img data-src="https://cdn.mnmstatic.net/v_149/img/menemojis/36/smiley.png" alt=":-)" title=":-)" width="18" height="18" src="https://cdn.mnmstatic.net/v_149/img/g.gif" class="emoji lazy" /></p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>--3793--</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<meneame:comment_id>1033546</meneame:comment_id>
		<meneame:link_id>227937</meneame:link_id>
		<meneame:order>49</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>tuseeketh</meneame:user>
		<meneame:votes>0</meneame:votes>
		<meneame:karma>8</meneame:karma>
		<meneame:url>https://www.meneame.net/story/ilusion-optica-pero-para-oidos-vid</meneame:url>
		<title>#49 Ilusion  óptica, pero para los oidos [vid]</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/ilusion-optica-pero-para-oidos-vid/c049#c-49</link>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Oct 2007 10:23:27 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>tuseeketh</dc:creator>
		<guid>https://www.meneame.net/story/ilusion-optica-pero-para-oidos-vid/c049#c-49</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[<p>Esto es una puta paranoia. Estaba trabajando y me he puesto de los nervios!!!</p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>tuseeketh</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<meneame:comment_id>1033155</meneame:comment_id>
		<meneame:link_id>227937</meneame:link_id>
		<meneame:order>48</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>Agar</meneame:user>
		<meneame:votes>0</meneame:votes>
		<meneame:karma>10</meneame:karma>
		<meneame:url>https://www.meneame.net/story/ilusion-optica-pero-para-oidos-vid</meneame:url>
		<title>#48 Ilusion  óptica, pero para los oidos [vid]</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/ilusion-optica-pero-para-oidos-vid/c048#c-48</link>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Oct 2007 08:50:18 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Agar</dc:creator>
		<guid>https://www.meneame.net/story/ilusion-optica-pero-para-oidos-vid/c048#c-48</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[<p>Se parece a esta ilusión óptica:<br />
<a href="http://flashback.rodenstock.com/b2c/com/es/content.jsp?id=documents/0000/00/00/31/12591.xml&#38;group_path=953/1039/1040/1044/" title="flashback.rodenstock.com/b2c/com/es/content.jsp?id=documents/0000/00/00/31/12591.xml&#38;group_path=953/1039/1040/1044/" rel="nofollow">flashback.rodenstock.com/b2c/com/es/content.jsp?id=documents/0000/00/0</a><br />
<a href="http://www.explora.cl/otros/metro/metroformas/img/subiendo-bajando.jpg" title="www.explora.cl/otros/metro/metroformas/img/subiendo-bajando.jpg" rel="nofollow">www.explora.cl/otros/metro/metroformas/img/subiendo-bajando.jpg</a></p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>Agar</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<meneame:comment_id>1032797</meneame:comment_id>
		<meneame:link_id>227937</meneame:link_id>
		<meneame:order>47</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>Darth_Mur</meneame:user>
		<meneame:votes>0</meneame:votes>
		<meneame:karma>5</meneame:karma>
		<meneame:url>https://www.meneame.net/story/ilusion-optica-pero-para-oidos-vid</meneame:url>
		<title>#47 Ilusion  óptica, pero para los oidos [vid]</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/ilusion-optica-pero-para-oidos-vid/c047#c-47</link>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Oct 2007 06:51:21 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Darth_Mur</dc:creator>
		<guid>https://www.meneame.net/story/ilusion-optica-pero-para-oidos-vid/c047#c-47</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[<p>impresionante</p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>Darth_Mur</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<meneame:comment_id>1032728</meneame:comment_id>
		<meneame:link_id>227937</meneame:link_id>
		<meneame:order>46</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>--2516--</meneame:user>
		<meneame:votes>0</meneame:votes>
		<meneame:karma>9</meneame:karma>
		<meneame:url>https://www.meneame.net/story/ilusion-optica-pero-para-oidos-vid</meneame:url>
		<title>#46 Ilusion  óptica, pero para los oidos [vid]</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/ilusion-optica-pero-para-oidos-vid/c046#c-46</link>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Oct 2007 05:36:22 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>--2516--</dc:creator>
		<guid>https://www.meneame.net/story/ilusion-optica-pero-para-oidos-vid/c046#c-46</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[<p>[Usuario deshabilitado]</p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>--2516--</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<meneame:comment_id>1032694</meneame:comment_id>
		<meneame:link_id>227937</meneame:link_id>
		<meneame:order>45</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>keller</meneame:user>
		<meneame:votes>0</meneame:votes>
		<meneame:karma>5</meneame:karma>
		<meneame:url>https://www.meneame.net/story/ilusion-optica-pero-para-oidos-vid</meneame:url>
		<title>#45 Ilusion  óptica, pero para los oidos [vid]</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/ilusion-optica-pero-para-oidos-vid/c045#c-45</link>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Oct 2007 04:03:32 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>keller</dc:creator>
		<guid>https://www.meneame.net/story/ilusion-optica-pero-para-oidos-vid/c045#c-45</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[<p>Excelente efecto, realmente es muy bueno, se ve sencillo se juega con una doble tonalidad y a primera oida pareciera que es el grave el que despista el cambio de una a otra... jejeje buenisimo, al menos te deja con la intriga de qué es!</p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>keller</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<meneame:comment_id>1032655</meneame:comment_id>
		<meneame:link_id>227937</meneame:link_id>
		<meneame:order>44</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>--38543--</meneame:user>
		<meneame:votes>0</meneame:votes>
		<meneame:karma>5</meneame:karma>
		<meneame:url>https://www.meneame.net/story/ilusion-optica-pero-para-oidos-vid</meneame:url>
		<title>#44 Ilusion  óptica, pero para los oidos [vid]</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/ilusion-optica-pero-para-oidos-vid/c044#c-44</link>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Oct 2007 02:39:36 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>--38543--</dc:creator>
		<guid>https://www.meneame.net/story/ilusion-optica-pero-para-oidos-vid/c044#c-44</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[<p>[Usuario deshabilitado]</p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>--38543--</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<meneame:comment_id>1032623</meneame:comment_id>
		<meneame:link_id>227937</meneame:link_id>
		<meneame:order>43</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>valpurgis</meneame:user>
		<meneame:votes>1</meneame:votes>
		<meneame:karma>14</meneame:karma>
		<meneame:url>https://www.meneame.net/story/ilusion-optica-pero-para-oidos-vid</meneame:url>
		<title>#43 Ilusion  óptica, pero para los oidos [vid]</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/ilusion-optica-pero-para-oidos-vid/c043#c-43</link>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Oct 2007 01:32:21 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>valpurgis</dc:creator>
		<guid>https://www.meneame.net/story/ilusion-optica-pero-para-oidos-vid/c043#c-43</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[<p>Como bien dice <a class="tooltip c:227937-22" href="https://www.meneame.net/story/ilusion-optica-pero-para-oidos-vid/c022#c-22" rel="nofollow">#22</a> la ilusión reside en los armónicos. Escuchando el audio notas como una frecuencia mas aguda que el resto empieza a un nivel bastante elevado y va decayendo hasta hacerse casi imperceptible, mientras que otra frecuencia empieza mas baja de nivel y frecuencia y va ascendiendo hasta acabar al mismo nivel y frecuencia donde partió la primera. De ahi que realmente parezca un bucle. Donde realmente te la cuelan es justo a la mitad del audio, que mediante un fundido de las dos, te bajan una octava en los harmónicos para que cuando vuelvas a reproducirlo te parezca que parte desde donde acabó.</p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>valpurgis</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<meneame:comment_id>1032411</meneame:comment_id>
		<meneame:link_id>227937</meneame:link_id>
		<meneame:order>42</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>Coconut80s</meneame:user>
		<meneame:votes>3</meneame:votes>
		<meneame:karma>10</meneame:karma>
		<meneame:url>https://www.meneame.net/story/ilusion-optica-pero-para-oidos-vid</meneame:url>
		<title>#42 Ilusion  óptica, pero para los oidos [vid]</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/ilusion-optica-pero-para-oidos-vid/c042#c-42</link>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Oct 2007 23:07:01 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Coconut80s</dc:creator>
		<guid>https://www.meneame.net/story/ilusion-optica-pero-para-oidos-vid/c042#c-42</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[<p>HOYGAN ME PUEDEN DESI KOMO PONERLE HEZO HA MI PIANITO KAZIO PA ZORPRENDER HA MI MAMA!!</p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>Coconut80s</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<meneame:comment_id>1032395</meneame:comment_id>
		<meneame:link_id>227937</meneame:link_id>
		<meneame:order>41</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>shinzou</meneame:user>
		<meneame:votes>0</meneame:votes>
		<meneame:karma>6</meneame:karma>
		<meneame:url>https://www.meneame.net/story/ilusion-optica-pero-para-oidos-vid</meneame:url>
		<title>#41 Ilusion  óptica, pero para los oidos [vid]</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/ilusion-optica-pero-para-oidos-vid/c041#c-41</link>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Oct 2007 22:59:38 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>shinzou</dc:creator>
		<guid>https://www.meneame.net/story/ilusion-optica-pero-para-oidos-vid/c041#c-41</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[<p>Es una progresión de varias octavas en semitonos ascendentes, que aunque dejen de subir el oído cree que sigue subiendo... es facil de explicar arpegiando en una guitarra.</p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>shinzou</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<meneame:comment_id>1032356</meneame:comment_id>
		<meneame:link_id>227937</meneame:link_id>
		<meneame:order>40</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>rollerdepalo</meneame:user>
		<meneame:votes>0</meneame:votes>
		<meneame:karma>6</meneame:karma>
		<meneame:url>https://www.meneame.net/story/ilusion-optica-pero-para-oidos-vid</meneame:url>
		<title>#40 Ilusion  óptica, pero para los oidos [vid]</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/ilusion-optica-pero-para-oidos-vid/c040#c-40</link>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Oct 2007 22:45:48 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>rollerdepalo</dc:creator>
		<guid>https://www.meneame.net/story/ilusion-optica-pero-para-oidos-vid/c040#c-40</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[<p>bestial! como mola!</p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>rollerdepalo</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<meneame:comment_id>1032291</meneame:comment_id>
		<meneame:link_id>227937</meneame:link_id>
		<meneame:order>39</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>Laro</meneame:user>
		<meneame:votes>0</meneame:votes>
		<meneame:karma>6</meneame:karma>
		<meneame:url>https://www.meneame.net/story/ilusion-optica-pero-para-oidos-vid</meneame:url>
		<title>#39 Ilusion  óptica, pero para los oidos [vid]</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/ilusion-optica-pero-para-oidos-vid/c039#c-39</link>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Oct 2007 22:21:56 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Laro</dc:creator>
		<guid>https://www.meneame.net/story/ilusion-optica-pero-para-oidos-vid/c039#c-39</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[<p>quise decir <a class="tooltip c:227937-24" href="https://www.meneame.net/story/ilusion-optica-pero-para-oidos-vid/c024#c-24" rel="nofollow">#24</a></p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>Laro</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<meneame:comment_id>1032239</meneame:comment_id>
		<meneame:link_id>227937</meneame:link_id>
		<meneame:order>38</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>Laro</meneame:user>
		<meneame:votes>3</meneame:votes>
		<meneame:karma>17</meneame:karma>
		<meneame:url>https://www.meneame.net/story/ilusion-optica-pero-para-oidos-vid</meneame:url>
		<title>#38 Ilusion  óptica, pero para los oidos [vid]</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/ilusion-optica-pero-para-oidos-vid/c038#c-38</link>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Oct 2007 22:04:48 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Laro</dc:creator>
		<guid>https://www.meneame.net/story/ilusion-optica-pero-para-oidos-vid/c038#c-38</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[<p><a class="tooltip c:227937-37" href="https://www.meneame.net/story/ilusion-optica-pero-para-oidos-vid/c037#c-37" rel="nofollow">#37</a> sí claro, al principio caí igual. De lo que me serví fue de mucha concentración y de esa capacidad para discernir el momento del &#34;engaño&#34;. Parece que se trata de algo llamado &#34;Shepard tone&#34;, tal y como dice <a class="tooltip c:227937-14" href="https://www.meneame.net/story/ilusion-optica-pero-para-oidos-vid/c014#c-14" rel="nofollow">#14</a>. El problema es que son varias octavas simultáneas sonando a la vez, incluso con timbres diferentes y además es un sonido muy electrónico y bastante distorsionado. Si fuesen sonidos más claros sería mucho más fácil. Pero entonces no tendría gracia <img data-src="https://cdn.mnmstatic.net/v_149/img/menemojis/36/tongue.png" alt=":-P" title=":-P" width="18" height="18" src="https://cdn.mnmstatic.net/v_149/img/g.gif" class="emoji lazy" /></p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>Laro</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<meneame:comment_id>1032192</meneame:comment_id>
		<meneame:link_id>227937</meneame:link_id>
		<meneame:order>37</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>onitoan</meneame:user>
		<meneame:votes>0</meneame:votes>
		<meneame:karma>7</meneame:karma>
		<meneame:url>https://www.meneame.net/story/ilusion-optica-pero-para-oidos-vid</meneame:url>
		<title>#37 Ilusion  óptica, pero para los oidos [vid]</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/ilusion-optica-pero-para-oidos-vid/c037#c-37</link>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Oct 2007 21:51:38 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>onitoan</dc:creator>
		<guid>https://www.meneame.net/story/ilusion-optica-pero-para-oidos-vid/c037#c-37</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[<p>Buena explicación <a class="tooltip c:227937-35" href="https://www.meneame.net/story/ilusion-optica-pero-para-oidos-vid/c035#c-35" rel="nofollow">#35</a>, pero creo que incluso con oído absoluto, de este 'engaño' no se libra nadie. Con oído absoluto te podrás dar cuenta que el Do suena igual de fuerte en dos octavas, pero el efecto de este 'truco' es la sensación de continuidad, al pasar del Si de vuelta al Do. Creo que es como esas figuras que hemos visto todos por aquí, que los colores contiguos nos hacen ver como distintos dos colores que realmente son el mismo. El cerebro funciona de manera diferencial.</p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>onitoan</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<meneame:comment_id>1032132</meneame:comment_id>
		<meneame:link_id>227937</meneame:link_id>
		<meneame:order>36</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>dodonpachi</meneame:user>
		<meneame:votes>1</meneame:votes>
		<meneame:karma>-2</meneame:karma>
		<meneame:url>https://www.meneame.net/story/ilusion-optica-pero-para-oidos-vid</meneame:url>
		<title>#36 Ilusion  óptica, pero para los oidos [vid]</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/ilusion-optica-pero-para-oidos-vid/c036#c-36</link>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Oct 2007 21:34:05 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>dodonpachi</dc:creator>
		<guid>https://www.meneame.net/story/ilusion-optica-pero-para-oidos-vid/c036#c-36</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[<p>Yo sí lo sé... debería llamrase idiotez</p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>dodonpachi</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<meneame:comment_id>1032085</meneame:comment_id>
		<meneame:link_id>227937</meneame:link_id>
		<meneame:order>35</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>Laro</meneame:user>
		<meneame:votes>4</meneame:votes>
		<meneame:karma>37</meneame:karma>
		<meneame:url>https://www.meneame.net/story/ilusion-optica-pero-para-oidos-vid</meneame:url>
		<title>#35 Ilusion  óptica, pero para los oidos [vid]</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/ilusion-optica-pero-para-oidos-vid/c035#c-35</link>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Oct 2007 21:22:39 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Laro</dc:creator>
		<guid>https://www.meneame.net/story/ilusion-optica-pero-para-oidos-vid/c035#c-35</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[<p>Bien, lo que pasa es lo siguiente: en realidad son semitonos ascendentes en varias octavas simultáneas (es decir, empieza: do-do#, do#-re, re#-mi, mi-fa, fa#-sol, etc. lo que alguno llamaba arriba el pim-pim <img data-src="https://cdn.mnmstatic.net/v_149/img/menemojis/36/lol.gif" alt="xD" title=":lol: xD" width="18" height="18" src="https://cdn.mnmstatic.net/v_149/img/g.gif" class="emoji lazy" />).<br />
Vale hay un momento en medio de la sucesión (creo que es entre sol# y la) en el que en realidad la línea superior no sube más, sino que se silencia (se calla) y sigue la segunda justo una octava abajo, dando la sensación al oído de que sigue subiendo, pero no lo hace en realidad. <br />
12 años de conservatorio y el hecho de tener oído absoluto ( <a href="http://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oído_absoluto" title="es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oído_absoluto" rel="nofollow">es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oído_absoluto</a> ) tenían que servir finalmente para algo <img data-src="https://cdn.mnmstatic.net/v_149/img/menemojis/36/wink.png" alt=";)" title=";)" width="18" height="18" src="https://cdn.mnmstatic.net/v_149/img/g.gif" class="emoji lazy" /></p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>Laro</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<meneame:comment_id>1032058</meneame:comment_id>
		<meneame:link_id>227937</meneame:link_id>
		<meneame:order>34</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>--53127--</meneame:user>
		<meneame:votes>0</meneame:votes>
		<meneame:karma>7</meneame:karma>
		<meneame:url>https://www.meneame.net/story/ilusion-optica-pero-para-oidos-vid</meneame:url>
		<title>#34 Ilusion  óptica, pero para los oidos [vid]</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/ilusion-optica-pero-para-oidos-vid/c034#c-34</link>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Oct 2007 21:13:26 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>--53127--</dc:creator>
		<guid>https://www.meneame.net/story/ilusion-optica-pero-para-oidos-vid/c034#c-34</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[<p>[Usuario deshabilitado]</p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>--53127--</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<meneame:comment_id>1032050</meneame:comment_id>
		<meneame:link_id>227937</meneame:link_id>
		<meneame:order>33</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>adancs</meneame:user>
		<meneame:votes>4</meneame:votes>
		<meneame:karma>33</meneame:karma>
		<meneame:url>https://www.meneame.net/story/ilusion-optica-pero-para-oidos-vid</meneame:url>
		<title>#33 Ilusion  óptica, pero para los oidos [vid]</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/ilusion-optica-pero-para-oidos-vid/c033#c-33</link>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Oct 2007 21:10:38 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>adancs</dc:creator>
		<guid>https://www.meneame.net/story/ilusion-optica-pero-para-oidos-vid/c033#c-33</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[<p><a class="tooltip c:227937-30" href="https://www.meneame.net/story/ilusion-optica-pero-para-oidos-vid/c030#c-30" rel="nofollow">#30</a> Nunca pierdo la oportunidad de demostrar mi ignorancia si con ello consigo que me saquen de mi error.</p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>adancs</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<meneame:comment_id>1032025</meneame:comment_id>
		<meneame:link_id>227937</meneame:link_id>
		<meneame:order>32</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>Cidwel</meneame:user>
		<meneame:votes>1</meneame:votes>
		<meneame:karma>14</meneame:karma>
		<meneame:url>https://www.meneame.net/story/ilusion-optica-pero-para-oidos-vid</meneame:url>
		<title>#32 Ilusion  óptica, pero para los oidos [vid]</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/ilusion-optica-pero-para-oidos-vid/c032#c-32</link>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Oct 2007 21:05:13 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Cidwel</dc:creator>
		<guid>https://www.meneame.net/story/ilusion-optica-pero-para-oidos-vid/c032#c-32</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[<p><a class="tooltip c:227937-18" href="https://www.meneame.net/story/ilusion-optica-pero-para-oidos-vid/c018#c-18" rel="nofollow">#18</a>, <a class="tooltip c:227937-19" href="https://www.meneame.net/story/ilusion-optica-pero-para-oidos-vid/c019#c-19" rel="nofollow">#19</a> yo quiero superpoderes de esos raros <img data-src="https://cdn.mnmstatic.net/v_149/img/menemojis/36/lol.gif" alt="xD" title=":lol: xD" width="18" height="18" src="https://cdn.mnmstatic.net/v_149/img/g.gif" class="emoji lazy" /> <br />
Vi a patrocinarme diciendo que soy capaz de mirar a la luz del sol y estornudar!</p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>Cidwel</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<meneame:comment_id>1031970</meneame:comment_id>
		<meneame:link_id>227937</meneame:link_id>
		<meneame:order>31</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>--10140--</meneame:user>
		<meneame:votes>0</meneame:votes>
		<meneame:karma>7</meneame:karma>
		<meneame:url>https://www.meneame.net/story/ilusion-optica-pero-para-oidos-vid</meneame:url>
		<title>#31 Ilusion  óptica, pero para los oidos [vid]</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/ilusion-optica-pero-para-oidos-vid/c031#c-31</link>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Oct 2007 20:54:21 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>--10140--</dc:creator>
		<guid>https://www.meneame.net/story/ilusion-optica-pero-para-oidos-vid/c031#c-31</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[<p>[Usuario deshabilitado]</p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>--10140--</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<meneame:comment_id>1031966</meneame:comment_id>
		<meneame:link_id>227937</meneame:link_id>
		<meneame:order>30</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>--15281--</meneame:user>
		<meneame:votes>1</meneame:votes>
		<meneame:karma>0</meneame:karma>
		<meneame:url>https://www.meneame.net/story/ilusion-optica-pero-para-oidos-vid</meneame:url>
		<title>#30 Ilusion  óptica, pero para los oidos [vid]</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/ilusion-optica-pero-para-oidos-vid/c030#c-30</link>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Oct 2007 20:53:02 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>--15281--</dc:creator>
		<guid>https://www.meneame.net/story/ilusion-optica-pero-para-oidos-vid/c030#c-30</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[<p>Yo me como con patatas la ilusión ótica! <img data-src="https://cdn.mnmstatic.net/v_149/img/menemojis/36/tongue.png" alt=":-P" title=":-P" width="18" height="18" src="https://cdn.mnmstatic.net/v_149/img/g.gif" class="emoji lazy" /><br />
Y bueno, <a class="tooltip c:227937-26" href="https://www.meneame.net/story/ilusion-optica-pero-para-oidos-vid/c026#c-26" rel="nofollow">#26</a> antes de soltar una burrada como eso de los &#34;acordes&#34; de dos notas podrías leer los comentarios para ver lo que han dicho otros y no demostrar así que, sobre esto, al igual que otros muchos entre los que me incluyo, no tienes ni idea.</p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>--15281--</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<meneame:comment_id>1031916</meneame:comment_id>
		<meneame:link_id>227937</meneame:link_id>
		<meneame:order>29</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>ponkothrepwood</meneame:user>
		<meneame:votes>0</meneame:votes>
		<meneame:karma>6</meneame:karma>
		<meneame:url>https://www.meneame.net/story/ilusion-optica-pero-para-oidos-vid</meneame:url>
		<title>#29 Ilusion  óptica, pero para los oidos [vid]</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/ilusion-optica-pero-para-oidos-vid/c029#c-29</link>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Oct 2007 20:42:58 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>ponkothrepwood</dc:creator>
		<guid>https://www.meneame.net/story/ilusion-optica-pero-para-oidos-vid/c029#c-29</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[<p>Si lo haces constantemente con un instrumento en la vida real, el efecto es mejor.</p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>ponkothrepwood</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<meneame:comment_id>1031906</meneame:comment_id>
		<meneame:link_id>227937</meneame:link_id>
		<meneame:order>28</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>Puski</meneame:user>
		<meneame:votes>2</meneame:votes>
		<meneame:karma>26</meneame:karma>
		<meneame:url>https://www.meneame.net/story/ilusion-optica-pero-para-oidos-vid</meneame:url>
		<title>#28 Ilusion  óptica, pero para los oidos [vid]</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/ilusion-optica-pero-para-oidos-vid/c028#c-28</link>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Oct 2007 20:37:51 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Puski</dc:creator>
		<guid>https://www.meneame.net/story/ilusion-optica-pero-para-oidos-vid/c028#c-28</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[<p>Aquí hay una intermodal, es decir, donde el oído afecta a la vista: <a href="http://www.michaelbach.de/ot/mot_bounce/index.html" title="www.michaelbach.de/ot/mot_bounce/index.html" rel="nofollow">www.michaelbach.de/ot/mot_bounce/index.html</a></p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>Puski</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<meneame:comment_id>1031904</meneame:comment_id>
		<meneame:link_id>227937</meneame:link_id>
		<meneame:order>27</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>--7377--</meneame:user>
		<meneame:votes>5</meneame:votes>
		<meneame:karma>-5</meneame:karma>
		<meneame:url>https://www.meneame.net/story/ilusion-optica-pero-para-oidos-vid</meneame:url>
		<title>#27 Ilusion  óptica, pero para los oidos [vid]</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/ilusion-optica-pero-para-oidos-vid/c027#c-27</link>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Oct 2007 20:37:45 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>--7377--</dc:creator>
		<guid>https://www.meneame.net/story/ilusion-optica-pero-para-oidos-vid/c027#c-27</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[<p>[Usuario deshabilitado]</p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>--7377--</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<meneame:comment_id>1031902</meneame:comment_id>
		<meneame:link_id>227937</meneame:link_id>
		<meneame:order>26</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>adancs</meneame:user>
		<meneame:votes>0</meneame:votes>
		<meneame:karma>6</meneame:karma>
		<meneame:url>https://www.meneame.net/story/ilusion-optica-pero-para-oidos-vid</meneame:url>
		<title>#26 Ilusion  óptica, pero para los oidos [vid]</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/ilusion-optica-pero-para-oidos-vid/c026#c-26</link>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Oct 2007 20:36:53 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>adancs</dc:creator>
		<guid>https://www.meneame.net/story/ilusion-optica-pero-para-oidos-vid/c026#c-26</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[<p>La cosa consiste en completar una escala tocando simultáneamente 'acordes' de dos notas, eso es lo que nos confunde. Supongo.</p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>adancs</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<meneame:comment_id>1031891</meneame:comment_id>
		<meneame:link_id>227937</meneame:link_id>
		<meneame:order>25</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>cuervo89</meneame:user>
		<meneame:votes>5</meneame:votes>
		<meneame:karma>25</meneame:karma>
		<meneame:url>https://www.meneame.net/story/ilusion-optica-pero-para-oidos-vid</meneame:url>
		<title>#25 Ilusion  óptica, pero para los oidos [vid]</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/ilusion-optica-pero-para-oidos-vid/c025#c-25</link>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Oct 2007 20:33:24 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>cuervo89</dc:creator>
		<guid>https://www.meneame.net/story/ilusion-optica-pero-para-oidos-vid/c025#c-25</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[<p>Curioso...De hecho es la versión acústica de esto  <a href="http://es.youtube.com/watch?v=w8Zz05t19dg" title="es.youtube.com/watch?v=w8Zz05t19dg" rel="nofollow">es.youtube.com/watch?v=w8Zz05t19dg</a></p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>cuervo89</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<meneame:comment_id>1031881</meneame:comment_id>
		<meneame:link_id>227937</meneame:link_id>
		<meneame:order>24</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>quidam</meneame:user>
		<meneame:votes>4</meneame:votes>
		<meneame:karma>35</meneame:karma>
		<meneame:url>https://www.meneame.net/story/ilusion-optica-pero-para-oidos-vid</meneame:url>
		<title>#24 Ilusion  óptica, pero para los oidos [vid]</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/ilusion-optica-pero-para-oidos-vid/c024#c-24</link>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Oct 2007 20:30:01 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>quidam</dc:creator>
		<guid>https://www.meneame.net/story/ilusion-optica-pero-para-oidos-vid/c024#c-24</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shepard_tone" title="en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shepard_tone" rel="nofollow">en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shepard_tone</a></p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>quidam</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<meneame:comment_id>1031877</meneame:comment_id>
		<meneame:link_id>227937</meneame:link_id>
		<meneame:order>23</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>thalonius</meneame:user>
		<meneame:votes>2</meneame:votes>
		<meneame:karma>20</meneame:karma>
		<meneame:url>https://www.meneame.net/story/ilusion-optica-pero-para-oidos-vid</meneame:url>
		<title>#23 Ilusion  óptica, pero para los oidos [vid]</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/ilusion-optica-pero-para-oidos-vid/c023#c-23</link>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Oct 2007 20:28:20 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>thalonius</dc:creator>
		<guid>https://www.meneame.net/story/ilusion-optica-pero-para-oidos-vid/c023#c-23</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[<p>Pues yo tengo &#34;oido musical&#34; porque llevo toda la vida estudiando música, pero la ilusión me la ha colao exactamente igual.<br />
<br />
La verdad es que no le encuentro explicación, y me ha gustao mucho esto de las ilusiones para otros sentidos, jejeje.</p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>thalonius</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<meneame:comment_id>1031875</meneame:comment_id>
		<meneame:link_id>227937</meneame:link_id>
		<meneame:order>22</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>onitoan</meneame:user>
		<meneame:votes>4</meneame:votes>
		<meneame:karma>36</meneame:karma>
		<meneame:url>https://www.meneame.net/story/ilusion-optica-pero-para-oidos-vid</meneame:url>
		<title>#22 Ilusion  óptica, pero para los oidos [vid]</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/ilusion-optica-pero-para-oidos-vid/c022#c-22</link>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Oct 2007 20:27:59 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>onitoan</dc:creator>
		<guid>https://www.meneame.net/story/ilusion-optica-pero-para-oidos-vid/c022#c-22</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[<p>La mejor explicación hasta ahora la ha dado <a class="tooltip c:227937-20" href="https://www.meneame.net/story/ilusion-optica-pero-para-oidos-vid/c020#c-20" rel="nofollow">#20</a>. Lo del semitono de <a class="tooltip c:227937-14" href="https://www.meneame.net/story/ilusion-optica-pero-para-oidos-vid/c014#c-14" rel="nofollow">#14</a>, frío, frío.<br />
<br />
Tiene que ver con la estructura de armónicos del sonido utilizado, que dificulta al oyente la identificación de la frecuencia fundamental. Cuando escuchamos la secuencia por primera vez, 'creamos' una frecuencia de referencia en nuestro esquema mental, digamos que identificamos la nota que 'taratearíamos'. En la segunda pasada, con la nueva nota de referencia (la última del video,la que finaliza la escala), volvemos a escuchar la nota 1 pero la identificamos con la de la siguiente octava. Si en vez de usar ese sonido, lo hubieran hecho con un piano, por ejemplo, tal efecto no existiría.<br />
<br />
Sé que es un tocho de explicación, pero a estas horas me cuesta un pelín, y los conceptos musicales suelen ser bastante abstractos.<br />
<br />
Edito: tiene mucho que ver con lo que dice <a class="tooltip c:227937-21" href="https://www.meneame.net/story/ilusion-optica-pero-para-oidos-vid/c021#c-21" rel="nofollow">#21</a>.</p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>onitoan</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<meneame:comment_id>1031874</meneame:comment_id>
		<meneame:link_id>227937</meneame:link_id>
		<meneame:order>21</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>--28547--</meneame:user>
		<meneame:votes>1</meneame:votes>
		<meneame:karma>14</meneame:karma>
		<meneame:url>https://www.meneame.net/story/ilusion-optica-pero-para-oidos-vid</meneame:url>
		<title>#21 Ilusion  óptica, pero para los oidos [vid]</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/ilusion-optica-pero-para-oidos-vid/c021#c-21</link>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Oct 2007 20:27:04 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>--28547--</dc:creator>
		<guid>https://www.meneame.net/story/ilusion-optica-pero-para-oidos-vid/c021#c-21</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[<p>Tiene 2 tonos intercalados, uno grave y uno agudo. A poco que sigas el tono grave no hay efecto, con el agudo se disimula mejor pero en seguida me centro nuevamente en el grave y adiós.</p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>--28547--</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<meneame:comment_id>1031804</meneame:comment_id>
		<meneame:link_id>227937</meneame:link_id>
		<meneame:order>20</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>etk</meneame:user>
		<meneame:votes>3</meneame:votes>
		<meneame:karma>15</meneame:karma>
		<meneame:url>https://www.meneame.net/story/ilusion-optica-pero-para-oidos-vid</meneame:url>
		<title>#20 Ilusion  óptica, pero para los oidos [vid]</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/ilusion-optica-pero-para-oidos-vid/c020#c-20</link>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Oct 2007 19:58:48 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>etk</dc:creator>
		<guid>https://www.meneame.net/story/ilusion-optica-pero-para-oidos-vid/c020#c-20</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[<p>el &#34;pim-pim&#34; que suena siempre es el mismo, lo que pasa es que cuando se repite, parece que la primera nota es mas aguda que la ultima</p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>etk</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<meneame:comment_id>1031774</meneame:comment_id>
		<meneame:link_id>227937</meneame:link_id>
		<meneame:order>19</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>Auringal</meneame:user>
		<meneame:votes>4</meneame:votes>
		<meneame:karma>31</meneame:karma>
		<meneame:url>https://www.meneame.net/story/ilusion-optica-pero-para-oidos-vid</meneame:url>
		<title>#19 Ilusion  óptica, pero para los oidos [vid]</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/ilusion-optica-pero-para-oidos-vid/c019#c-19</link>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Oct 2007 19:50:00 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Auringal</dc:creator>
		<guid>https://www.meneame.net/story/ilusion-optica-pero-para-oidos-vid/c019#c-19</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[<p><a class="tooltip c:227937-18" href="https://www.meneame.net/story/ilusion-optica-pero-para-oidos-vid/c018#c-18" rel="nofollow">#18</a> es que indudablemente tienes &#34;oido&#34; musical, como hay personas con habilidades visuales o motrices fuera de lo comun. Yo, por ejemplo, tengo una disminucion visual importante por lo que se me ha desarrollado mucho el oido, sumado a que he estudiado musica.<br />
Pero si me pones casos de &#34;ilusiones&#34; opticas me puedo quedar horas sin darme cuenta.xD</p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>Auringal</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<meneame:comment_id>1031743</meneame:comment_id>
		<meneame:link_id>227937</meneame:link_id>
		<meneame:order>18</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>--7377--</meneame:user>
		<meneame:votes>12</meneame:votes>
		<meneame:karma>7</meneame:karma>
		<meneame:url>https://www.meneame.net/story/ilusion-optica-pero-para-oidos-vid</meneame:url>
		<title>#18 Ilusion  óptica, pero para los oidos [vid]</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/ilusion-optica-pero-para-oidos-vid/c018#c-18</link>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Oct 2007 19:41:13 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>--7377--</dc:creator>
		<guid>https://www.meneame.net/story/ilusion-optica-pero-para-oidos-vid/c018#c-18</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[<p>[Usuario deshabilitado]</p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>--7377--</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<meneame:comment_id>1031560</meneame:comment_id>
		<meneame:link_id>227937</meneame:link_id>
		<meneame:order>17</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>Auringal</meneame:user>
		<meneame:votes>7</meneame:votes>
		<meneame:karma>30</meneame:karma>
		<meneame:url>https://www.meneame.net/story/ilusion-optica-pero-para-oidos-vid</meneame:url>
		<title>#17 Ilusion  óptica, pero para los oidos [vid]</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/ilusion-optica-pero-para-oidos-vid/c017#c-17</link>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Oct 2007 18:33:53 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Auringal</dc:creator>
		<guid>https://www.meneame.net/story/ilusion-optica-pero-para-oidos-vid/c017#c-17</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[<p><a class="tooltip c:227937-7" href="https://www.meneame.net/story/ilusion-optica-pero-para-oidos-vid/c07#c-7" rel="nofollow">#7</a> y otros <br />
La &#34;ilusion&#34; al repetirlo, te da la sensacion de que la frecuencia sigue subiendo, es decir, escuchas esa secuencia y al repetirlo pareceria que siguen subiendo los tonos hacia lo agudo,cuando en realidad repite lo mismo.<br />
Obviamente, una tontera total, dado que mucha gente no tiene oido para entenderlo.</p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>Auringal</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<meneame:comment_id>1031520</meneame:comment_id>
		<meneame:link_id>227937</meneame:link_id>
		<meneame:order>16</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>--48215--</meneame:user>
		<meneame:votes>14</meneame:votes>
		<meneame:karma>118</meneame:karma>
		<meneame:url>https://www.meneame.net/story/ilusion-optica-pero-para-oidos-vid</meneame:url>
		<title>#16 Ilusion  óptica, pero para los oidos [vid]</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/ilusion-optica-pero-para-oidos-vid/c016#c-16</link>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Oct 2007 18:18:05 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>--48215--</dc:creator>
		<guid>https://www.meneame.net/story/ilusion-optica-pero-para-oidos-vid/c016#c-16</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[<p>Dan ganas de matar a alguien <img data-src="https://cdn.mnmstatic.net/v_149/img/menemojis/36/lol.gif" alt="xD" title=":lol: xD" width="18" height="18" src="https://cdn.mnmstatic.net/v_149/img/g.gif" class="emoji lazy" /></p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>--48215--</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<meneame:comment_id>1031493</meneame:comment_id>
		<meneame:link_id>227937</meneame:link_id>
		<meneame:order>15</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>natrix</meneame:user>
		<meneame:votes>3</meneame:votes>
		<meneame:karma>38</meneame:karma>
		<meneame:url>https://www.meneame.net/story/ilusion-optica-pero-para-oidos-vid</meneame:url>
		<title>#15 Ilusion  óptica, pero para los oidos [vid]</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/ilusion-optica-pero-para-oidos-vid/c015#c-15</link>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Oct 2007 18:04:59 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>natrix</dc:creator>
		<guid>https://www.meneame.net/story/ilusion-optica-pero-para-oidos-vid/c015#c-15</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[<p>¡Que alguien lo pare que va a explotar!</p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>natrix</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<meneame:comment_id>1031475</meneame:comment_id>
		<meneame:link_id>227937</meneame:link_id>
		<meneame:order>14</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>mindframe</meneame:user>
		<meneame:votes>1</meneame:votes>
		<meneame:karma>16</meneame:karma>
		<meneame:url>https://www.meneame.net/story/ilusion-optica-pero-para-oidos-vid</meneame:url>
		<title>#14 Ilusion  óptica, pero para los oidos [vid]</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/ilusion-optica-pero-para-oidos-vid/c014#c-14</link>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Oct 2007 17:54:39 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>mindframe</dc:creator>
		<guid>https://www.meneame.net/story/ilusion-optica-pero-para-oidos-vid/c014#c-14</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[<p>El por qué:<br />
<br />
<em>In the middle of the tune, the tone goes down by a semitone... Maybe more... You don't notice it because it starts a new bar of melody.</em><br />
<br />
O al menos eso pone en los comentarios... yo me quedo igual <img data-src="https://cdn.mnmstatic.net/v_149/img/menemojis/36/lol.gif" alt="xD" title=":lol: xD" width="18" height="18" src="https://cdn.mnmstatic.net/v_149/img/g.gif" class="emoji lazy" /></p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>mindframe</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<meneame:comment_id>1031469</meneame:comment_id>
		<meneame:link_id>227937</meneame:link_id>
		<meneame:order>13</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>e-abaco</meneame:user>
		<meneame:votes>2</meneame:votes>
		<meneame:karma>18</meneame:karma>
		<meneame:url>https://www.meneame.net/story/ilusion-optica-pero-para-oidos-vid</meneame:url>
		<title>#13 Ilusion  óptica, pero para los oidos [vid]</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/ilusion-optica-pero-para-oidos-vid/c013#c-13</link>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Oct 2007 17:52:34 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>e-abaco</dc:creator>
		<guid>https://www.meneame.net/story/ilusion-optica-pero-para-oidos-vid/c013#c-13</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[<p><a class="tooltip c:227937-12" href="https://www.meneame.net/story/ilusion-optica-pero-para-oidos-vid/c012#c-12" rel="nofollow">#12</a> tienes que tener los parlantes prendidos <img data-src="https://cdn.mnmstatic.net/v_149/img/menemojis/36/grin.png" alt=":-D" title=":-D" width="18" height="18" src="https://cdn.mnmstatic.net/v_149/img/g.gif" class="emoji lazy" /></p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>e-abaco</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<meneame:comment_id>1031462</meneame:comment_id>
		<meneame:link_id>227937</meneame:link_id>
		<meneame:order>12</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>--43573--</meneame:user>
		<meneame:votes>2</meneame:votes>
		<meneame:karma>3</meneame:karma>
		<meneame:url>https://www.meneame.net/story/ilusion-optica-pero-para-oidos-vid</meneame:url>
		<title>#12 Ilusion  óptica, pero para los oidos [vid]</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/ilusion-optica-pero-para-oidos-vid/c012#c-12</link>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Oct 2007 17:50:14 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>--43573--</dc:creator>
		<guid>https://www.meneame.net/story/ilusion-optica-pero-para-oidos-vid/c012#c-12</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[<p>[Usuario deshabilitado]</p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>--43573--</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<meneame:comment_id>1031443</meneame:comment_id>
		<meneame:link_id>227937</meneame:link_id>
		<meneame:order>11</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>Nividhia</meneame:user>
		<meneame:votes>3</meneame:votes>
		<meneame:karma>16</meneame:karma>
		<meneame:url>https://www.meneame.net/story/ilusion-optica-pero-para-oidos-vid</meneame:url>
		<title>#11 Ilusion  óptica, pero para los oidos [vid]</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/ilusion-optica-pero-para-oidos-vid/c011#c-11</link>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Oct 2007 17:45:13 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Nividhia</dc:creator>
		<guid>https://www.meneame.net/story/ilusion-optica-pero-para-oidos-vid/c011#c-11</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[<p>que rayada mas flipante <img data-src="https://cdn.mnmstatic.net/v_149/img/menemojis/36/grin.png" alt=":-D" title=":-D" width="18" height="18" src="https://cdn.mnmstatic.net/v_149/img/g.gif" class="emoji lazy" /> Y yo que creia conocer mi cuerpo pasada la edad del pavo <img data-src="https://cdn.mnmstatic.net/v_149/img/menemojis/36/grin.png" alt=":-D" title=":-D" width="18" height="18" src="https://cdn.mnmstatic.net/v_149/img/g.gif" class="emoji lazy" /></p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>Nividhia</strong></p>]]></description>
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	<item>
		<meneame:comment_id>1031433</meneame:comment_id>
		<meneame:link_id>227937</meneame:link_id>
		<meneame:order>10</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>Vodker</meneame:user>
		<meneame:votes>0</meneame:votes>
		<meneame:karma>11</meneame:karma>
		<meneame:url>https://www.meneame.net/story/ilusion-optica-pero-para-oidos-vid</meneame:url>
		<title>#10 Ilusion  óptica, pero para los oidos [vid]</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/ilusion-optica-pero-para-oidos-vid/c010#c-10</link>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Oct 2007 17:41:08 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Vodker</dc:creator>
		<guid>https://www.meneame.net/story/ilusion-optica-pero-para-oidos-vid/c010#c-10</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[<p><a class="tooltip c:227937-9" href="https://www.meneame.net/story/ilusion-optica-pero-para-oidos-vid/c09#c-9" rel="nofollow">#9</a> vale, pues paso de cansarme. <img data-src="https://cdn.mnmstatic.net/v_149/img/menemojis/36/smiley.png" alt=":-)" title=":-)" width="18" height="18" src="https://cdn.mnmstatic.net/v_149/img/g.gif" class="emoji lazy" /></p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>Vodker</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<meneame:comment_id>1031430</meneame:comment_id>
		<meneame:link_id>227937</meneame:link_id>
		<meneame:order>9</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>e-abaco</meneame:user>
		<meneame:votes>0</meneame:votes>
		<meneame:karma>5</meneame:karma>
		<meneame:url>https://www.meneame.net/story/ilusion-optica-pero-para-oidos-vid</meneame:url>
		<title>#9 Ilusion  óptica, pero para los oidos [vid]</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/ilusion-optica-pero-para-oidos-vid/c09#c-9</link>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Oct 2007 17:40:08 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>e-abaco</dc:creator>
		<guid>https://www.meneame.net/story/ilusion-optica-pero-para-oidos-vid/c09#c-9</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[<p>escuchalo una vez y cuando termina volve a ponerlo  y asi hasta que te canses,  y asi te vas a dar cuenta</p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>e-abaco</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<meneame:comment_id>1031426</meneame:comment_id>
		<meneame:link_id>227937</meneame:link_id>
		<meneame:order>8</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>Vodker</meneame:user>
		<meneame:votes>0</meneame:votes>
		<meneame:karma>11</meneame:karma>
		<meneame:url>https://www.meneame.net/story/ilusion-optica-pero-para-oidos-vid</meneame:url>
		<title>#8 Ilusion  óptica, pero para los oidos [vid]</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/ilusion-optica-pero-para-oidos-vid/c08#c-8</link>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Oct 2007 17:39:24 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Vodker</dc:creator>
		<guid>https://www.meneame.net/story/ilusion-optica-pero-para-oidos-vid/c08#c-8</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[<p>Estoy igual, <a class="tooltip c:227937-7" href="https://www.meneame.net/story/ilusion-optica-pero-para-oidos-vid/c07#c-7" rel="nofollow">#7</a>...</p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>Vodker</strong></p>]]></description>
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	<item>
		<meneame:comment_id>1031423</meneame:comment_id>
		<meneame:link_id>227937</meneame:link_id>
		<meneame:order>7</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>Carliues</meneame:user>
		<meneame:votes>0</meneame:votes>
		<meneame:karma>6</meneame:karma>
		<meneame:url>https://www.meneame.net/story/ilusion-optica-pero-para-oidos-vid</meneame:url>
		<title>#7 Ilusion  óptica, pero para los oidos [vid]</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/ilusion-optica-pero-para-oidos-vid/c07#c-7</link>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Oct 2007 17:38:42 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Carliues</dc:creator>
		<guid>https://www.meneame.net/story/ilusion-optica-pero-para-oidos-vid/c07#c-7</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[<p>No lo entiendo, ¿alguien me lo explica?</p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>Carliues</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<meneame:comment_id>1031421</meneame:comment_id>
		<meneame:link_id>227937</meneame:link_id>
		<meneame:order>6</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>e-abaco</meneame:user>
		<meneame:votes>1</meneame:votes>
		<meneame:karma>12</meneame:karma>
		<meneame:url>https://www.meneame.net/story/ilusion-optica-pero-para-oidos-vid</meneame:url>
		<title>#6 Ilusion  óptica, pero para los oidos [vid]</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/ilusion-optica-pero-para-oidos-vid/c06#c-6</link>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Oct 2007 17:38:04 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>e-abaco</dc:creator>
		<guid>https://www.meneame.net/story/ilusion-optica-pero-para-oidos-vid/c06#c-6</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[<p>sisis, acustica, sonora, son todas buenas, la verdad, no se en que estaba pensando cuando la envié? capas que el sonido me hipnotizo <img data-src="https://cdn.mnmstatic.net/v_149/img/menemojis/36/wow.png" alt="o_o" title="o_o :wow:" width="18" height="18" src="https://cdn.mnmstatic.net/v_149/img/g.gif" class="emoji lazy" /></p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>e-abaco</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<meneame:comment_id>1031414</meneame:comment_id>
		<meneame:link_id>227937</meneame:link_id>
		<meneame:order>5</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>--45518--</meneame:user>
		<meneame:votes>3</meneame:votes>
		<meneame:karma>32</meneame:karma>
		<meneame:url>https://www.meneame.net/story/ilusion-optica-pero-para-oidos-vid</meneame:url>
		<title>#5 Ilusion  óptica, pero para los oidos [vid]</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/ilusion-optica-pero-para-oidos-vid/c05#c-5</link>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Oct 2007 17:36:03 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>--45518--</dc:creator>
		<guid>https://www.meneame.net/story/ilusion-optica-pero-para-oidos-vid/c05#c-5</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[<p>no sería ilusión acústica? <img data-src="https://cdn.mnmstatic.net/v_149/img/menemojis/36/cool.png" alt="8-D" title=":cool: 8-D" width="18" height="18" src="https://cdn.mnmstatic.net/v_149/img/g.gif" class="emoji lazy" /><br />
<br />
Por cierto está curioso el efecto..</p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>--45518--</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<meneame:comment_id>1031402</meneame:comment_id>
		<meneame:link_id>227937</meneame:link_id>
		<meneame:order>4</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>Alexxx</meneame:user>
		<meneame:votes>1</meneame:votes>
		<meneame:karma>13</meneame:karma>
		<meneame:url>https://www.meneame.net/story/ilusion-optica-pero-para-oidos-vid</meneame:url>
		<title>#4 Ilusion  óptica, pero para los oidos [vid]</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/ilusion-optica-pero-para-oidos-vid/c04#c-4</link>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Oct 2007 17:31:56 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Alexxx</dc:creator>
		<guid>https://www.meneame.net/story/ilusion-optica-pero-para-oidos-vid/c04#c-4</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[<p>O ilusión sonora..</p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>Alexxx</strong></p>]]></description>
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	<item>
		<meneame:comment_id>1031396</meneame:comment_id>
		<meneame:link_id>227937</meneame:link_id>
		<meneame:order>3</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>hadex</meneame:user>
		<meneame:votes>0</meneame:votes>
		<meneame:karma>5</meneame:karma>
		<meneame:url>https://www.meneame.net/story/ilusion-optica-pero-para-oidos-vid</meneame:url>
		<title>#3 Ilusion  óptica, pero para los oidos [vid]</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/ilusion-optica-pero-para-oidos-vid/c03#c-3</link>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Oct 2007 17:30:08 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>hadex</dc:creator>
		<guid>https://www.meneame.net/story/ilusion-optica-pero-para-oidos-vid/c03#c-3</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[<p>Qué curioso!!!</p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>hadex</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<meneame:comment_id>1031389</meneame:comment_id>
		<meneame:link_id>227937</meneame:link_id>
		<meneame:order>2</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>e-abaco</meneame:user>
		<meneame:votes>0</meneame:votes>
		<meneame:karma>5</meneame:karma>
		<meneame:url>https://www.meneame.net/story/ilusion-optica-pero-para-oidos-vid</meneame:url>
		<title>#2 Ilusion  óptica, pero para los oidos [vid]</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/ilusion-optica-pero-para-oidos-vid/c02#c-2</link>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Oct 2007 17:27:36 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>e-abaco</dc:creator>
		<guid>https://www.meneame.net/story/ilusion-optica-pero-para-oidos-vid/c02#c-2</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[<p>buena idea! <a class="tooltip c:227937-1" href="https://www.meneame.net/story/ilusion-optica-pero-para-oidos-vid/c01#c-1" rel="nofollow">#1</a>, estoy medio  colgado</p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>e-abaco</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<meneame:comment_id>1031386</meneame:comment_id>
		<meneame:link_id>227937</meneame:link_id>
		<meneame:order>1</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>quero</meneame:user>
		<meneame:votes>6</meneame:votes>
		<meneame:karma>60</meneame:karma>
		<meneame:url>https://www.meneame.net/story/ilusion-optica-pero-para-oidos-vid</meneame:url>
		<title>#1 Ilusion  óptica, pero para los oidos [vid]</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/ilusion-optica-pero-para-oidos-vid/c01#c-1</link>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Oct 2007 17:26:25 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>quero</dc:creator>
		<guid>https://www.meneame.net/story/ilusion-optica-pero-para-oidos-vid/c01#c-1</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[<p>Auditiva quizás?</p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>quero</strong></p>]]></description>
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