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		<meneame:comment_id>14607158</meneame:comment_id>
		<meneame:link_id>2162305</meneame:link_id>
		<meneame:order>16</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>igorymi</meneame:user>
		<meneame:votes>0</meneame:votes>
		<meneame:karma>9</meneame:karma>
		<meneame:url>https://www.meneame.net/story/respirar-sin-respirar</meneame:url>
		<title>#16 Respirar, sin respirar</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/respirar-sin-respirar/c016#c-16</link>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Apr 2014 18:23:18 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>igorymi</dc:creator>
		<guid>https://www.meneame.net/story/respirar-sin-respirar/c016#c-16</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[<p><a class="tooltip c:2162305-4" href="https://www.meneame.net/story/respirar-sin-respirar/c04#c-4" rel="nofollow">#4</a> de que número de la revista? no lo encuentro</p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>igorymi</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<meneame:comment_id>14605756</meneame:comment_id>
		<meneame:link_id>2162305</meneame:link_id>
		<meneame:order>15</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>--391712--</meneame:user>
		<meneame:votes>0</meneame:votes>
		<meneame:karma>18</meneame:karma>
		<meneame:url>https://www.meneame.net/story/respirar-sin-respirar</meneame:url>
		<title>#15 Respirar, sin respirar</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/respirar-sin-respirar/c015#c-15</link>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Apr 2014 13:41:12 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>--391712--</dc:creator>
		<guid>https://www.meneame.net/story/respirar-sin-respirar/c015#c-15</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[<p><a class="tooltip c:2162305-14" href="https://www.meneame.net/story/respirar-sin-respirar/c014#c-14" rel="nofollow">#14</a> De nada <img data-src="https://cdn.mnmstatic.net/v_149/img/menemojis/36/wink.png" alt=";)" title=";)" width="18" height="18" src="https://cdn.mnmstatic.net/v_149/img/g.gif" class="emoji lazy" /> Si miras en la home, puedes descargar todos los números, por si te interesa <img data-src="https://cdn.mnmstatic.net/v_149/img/menemojis/36/wink.png" alt=";)" title=";)" width="18" height="18" src="https://cdn.mnmstatic.net/v_149/img/g.gif" class="emoji lazy" /> <a href="http://jof.feelsynapsis.com/" title="jof.feelsynapsis.com/" rel="nofollow">jof.feelsynapsis.com/</a></p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>--391712--</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<meneame:comment_id>14605722</meneame:comment_id>
		<meneame:link_id>2162305</meneame:link_id>
		<meneame:order>14</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>juanrita</meneame:user>
		<meneame:votes>1</meneame:votes>
		<meneame:karma>24</meneame:karma>
		<meneame:url>https://www.meneame.net/story/respirar-sin-respirar</meneame:url>
		<title>#14 Respirar, sin respirar</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/respirar-sin-respirar/c014#c-14</link>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Apr 2014 13:35:41 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>juanrita</dc:creator>
		<guid>https://www.meneame.net/story/respirar-sin-respirar/c014#c-14</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[<p><a class="tooltip c:2162305-3" href="https://www.meneame.net/story/respirar-sin-respirar/c03#c-3" rel="nofollow">#3</a> ¡Gracias por el PDF!<br />
El otro formato es ilegible</p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>juanrita</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<meneame:comment_id>14605297</meneame:comment_id>
		<meneame:link_id>2162305</meneame:link_id>
		<meneame:order>13</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>--34825--</meneame:user>
		<meneame:votes>0</meneame:votes>
		<meneame:karma>6</meneame:karma>
		<meneame:url>https://www.meneame.net/story/respirar-sin-respirar</meneame:url>
		<title>#13 Respirar, sin respirar</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/respirar-sin-respirar/c013#c-13</link>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Apr 2014 12:09:17 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>--34825--</dc:creator>
		<guid>https://www.meneame.net/story/respirar-sin-respirar/c013#c-13</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[<p>No en una camara hiperbarica.</p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>--34825--</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<meneame:comment_id>14605243</meneame:comment_id>
		<meneame:link_id>2162305</meneame:link_id>
		<meneame:order>12</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>Calgar</meneame:user>
		<meneame:votes>0</meneame:votes>
		<meneame:karma>6</meneame:karma>
		<meneame:url>https://www.meneame.net/story/respirar-sin-respirar</meneame:url>
		<title>#12 Respirar, sin respirar</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/respirar-sin-respirar/c012#c-12</link>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Apr 2014 12:01:18 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Calgar</dc:creator>
		<guid>https://www.meneame.net/story/respirar-sin-respirar/c012#c-12</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[<p>Sin comer, unas tres semanas. Sin beber, unos tres días.<br />
<br />
Sin respirar, unos tres minutos.<br />
<br />
Sí, es bastante importante creo.</p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>Calgar</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<meneame:comment_id>14605221</meneame:comment_id>
		<meneame:link_id>2162305</meneame:link_id>
		<meneame:order>11</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>takamura</meneame:user>
		<meneame:votes>2</meneame:votes>
		<meneame:karma>40</meneame:karma>
		<meneame:url>https://www.meneame.net/story/respirar-sin-respirar</meneame:url>
		<title>#11 Respirar, sin respirar</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/respirar-sin-respirar/c011#c-11</link>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Apr 2014 11:58:01 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>takamura</dc:creator>
		<guid>https://www.meneame.net/story/respirar-sin-respirar/c011#c-11</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[<p><a class="tooltip c:2162305-5" href="https://www.meneame.net/story/respirar-sin-respirar/c05#c-5" rel="nofollow">#5</a> Guay <img data-src="https://cdn.mnmstatic.net/v_149/img/menemojis/36/smiley.png" alt=":-)" title=":-)" width="18" height="18" src="https://cdn.mnmstatic.net/v_149/img/g.gif" class="emoji lazy" /></p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>takamura</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<meneame:comment_id>14605166</meneame:comment_id>
		<meneame:link_id>2162305</meneame:link_id>
		<meneame:order>10</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>gustavocarra</meneame:user>
		<meneame:votes>4</meneame:votes>
		<meneame:karma>50</meneame:karma>
		<meneame:url>https://www.meneame.net/story/respirar-sin-respirar</meneame:url>
		<title>#10 Respirar, sin respirar</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/respirar-sin-respirar/c010#c-10</link>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Apr 2014 11:48:42 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>gustavocarra</dc:creator>
		<guid>https://www.meneame.net/story/respirar-sin-respirar/c010#c-10</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[<p><a class="tooltip c:2162305-9" href="https://www.meneame.net/story/respirar-sin-respirar/c09#c-9" rel="nofollow">#9</a> inkscape</p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>gustavocarra</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<meneame:comment_id>14605161</meneame:comment_id>
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		<meneame:order>9</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>Stillman</meneame:user>
		<meneame:votes>1</meneame:votes>
		<meneame:karma>23</meneame:karma>
		<meneame:url>https://www.meneame.net/story/respirar-sin-respirar</meneame:url>
		<title>#9 Respirar, sin respirar</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/respirar-sin-respirar/c09#c-9</link>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Apr 2014 11:47:54 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Stillman</dc:creator>
		<guid>https://www.meneame.net/story/respirar-sin-respirar/c09#c-9</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[<p><a class="tooltip c:2162305-6" href="https://www.meneame.net/story/respirar-sin-respirar/c06#c-6" rel="nofollow">#6</a> ¿Qué programa utilizasteis para hacer ese diagrama? Gracias <a class='tooltip u:gustavocarra' href='/user/gustavocarra'>@gustavocarra</a>.</p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>Stillman</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<meneame:comment_id>14605131</meneame:comment_id>
		<meneame:link_id>2162305</meneame:link_id>
		<meneame:order>8</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>gustavocarra</meneame:user>
		<meneame:votes>1</meneame:votes>
		<meneame:karma>32</meneame:karma>
		<meneame:url>https://www.meneame.net/story/respirar-sin-respirar</meneame:url>
		<title>#8 Respirar, sin respirar</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/respirar-sin-respirar/c08#c-8</link>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Apr 2014 11:43:52 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>gustavocarra</dc:creator>
		<guid>https://www.meneame.net/story/respirar-sin-respirar/c08#c-8</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[<p><a class="tooltip c:2162305-7" href="https://www.meneame.net/story/respirar-sin-respirar/c07#c-7" rel="nofollow">#7</a> De hecho, lo único que respira en los pulmones son las mitocondrias de sus células. Lo que hacen los pulmones es ventilar, no respirar.<br />
<br />
Y por otra parte ¿nadie se ha planteado que el aparato respiratorio, en realidad nos protege del oxígeno en mayor medida de la que nos lo proporciona? La tensión de O<sub>2</sub> que llega a los complejos respiratorios es equivalente al que se produciría por fotólisis UV sin la capa de ozono, que creo que es, si no me falla la memoria, un 0,01% de la tensión atmosférica normal.</p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>gustavocarra</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<meneame:comment_id>14605097</meneame:comment_id>
		<meneame:link_id>2162305</meneame:link_id>
		<meneame:order>7</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>Endor_Fino</meneame:user>
		<meneame:votes>1</meneame:votes>
		<meneame:karma>16</meneame:karma>
		<meneame:url>https://www.meneame.net/story/respirar-sin-respirar</meneame:url>
		<title>#7 Respirar, sin respirar</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/respirar-sin-respirar/c07#c-7</link>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Apr 2014 11:37:37 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Endor_Fino</dc:creator>
		<guid>https://www.meneame.net/story/respirar-sin-respirar/c07#c-7</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[<p>Yo también procuro respirar más con las mitocondrias que con los pulmones. Respirar con los pulmones es demasiado mainstream</p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>Endor_Fino</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<meneame:comment_id>14605090</meneame:comment_id>
		<meneame:link_id>2162305</meneame:link_id>
		<meneame:order>6</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>gustavocarra</meneame:user>
		<meneame:votes>8</meneame:votes>
		<meneame:karma>96</meneame:karma>
		<meneame:url>https://www.meneame.net/story/respirar-sin-respirar</meneame:url>
		<title>#6 Respirar, sin respirar</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/respirar-sin-respirar/c06#c-6</link>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Apr 2014 11:36:04 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>gustavocarra</dc:creator>
		<guid>https://www.meneame.net/story/respirar-sin-respirar/c06#c-6</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[<p>Muy interesante. <br />
<br />
Una curiosidad. Cuando para mi tesis tuve que hacer una revisión sobre los complejos respiratorios mitocondriales, me di cuenta de lo poquísimamente divulgada y extendida que está la estructura mitocondrial. Un colega de la wikipedia me ayudó a vectorizar un diagrama: <a href="http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Fosforilación_oxidativa.svg" title="commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Fosforilación_oxidativa.svg" rel="nofollow">commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Fosforilación_oxidativa.svg</a> , pero aún así faltan muchísimos detalles.<br />
<br />
Por ejemplo, aunque en las fotografías de microscopía electrónica parece evidente que el espacio intermembranoso e intracrestal son muy pequeños, no había nada de bibliografía en la que aparecieran los datos precisos. Y resultaron ser relevantísimos para comprender el mecanismo global de la fosforilación oxidativa. Si alguien tiene curiosidad por conocerlos, están en el pie de foto de la imagen en el artículo: <a href="http://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fosforilación_oxidativa" title="es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fosforilación_oxidativa" rel="nofollow">es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fosforilación_oxidativa</a></p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>gustavocarra</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<meneame:comment_id>14605076</meneame:comment_id>
		<meneame:link_id>2162305</meneame:link_id>
		<meneame:order>5</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>--391712--</meneame:user>
		<meneame:votes>5</meneame:votes>
		<meneame:karma>67</meneame:karma>
		<meneame:url>https://www.meneame.net/story/respirar-sin-respirar</meneame:url>
		<title>#5 Respirar, sin respirar</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/respirar-sin-respirar/c05#c-5</link>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Apr 2014 11:32:30 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>--391712--</dc:creator>
		<guid>https://www.meneame.net/story/respirar-sin-respirar/c05#c-5</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[<p><a class="tooltip c:2162305-2" href="https://www.meneame.net/story/respirar-sin-respirar/c02#c-2" rel="nofollow">#2</a> <a class="tooltip c:2162305-4" href="https://www.meneame.net/story/respirar-sin-respirar/c04#c-4" rel="nofollow">#4</a> Esto han publicado hace 2 horas en twitter con su cuenta <a class='tooltip u:jofciencia' href='/user/jofciencia'>@jofciencia</a> <img data-src="https://cdn.mnmstatic.net/v_149/img/menemojis/36/wink.png" alt=";)" title=";)" width="18" height="18" src="https://cdn.mnmstatic.net/v_149/img/g.gif" class="emoji lazy" />  &#34;Como sabemos que el formato de lectura online de la revista es un peñazo, sabed que estamos preparando nueva web, para cómodas lecturas ;)&#34;</p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>--391712--</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<meneame:comment_id>14604797</meneame:comment_id>
		<meneame:link_id>2162305</meneame:link_id>
		<meneame:order>4</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>Jiraiya</meneame:user>
		<meneame:votes>3</meneame:votes>
		<meneame:karma>45</meneame:karma>
		<meneame:url>https://www.meneame.net/story/respirar-sin-respirar</meneame:url>
		<title>#4 Respirar, sin respirar</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/respirar-sin-respirar/c04#c-4</link>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Apr 2014 10:47:39 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Jiraiya</dc:creator>
		<guid>https://www.meneame.net/story/respirar-sin-respirar/c04#c-4</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[<p>Tiene que pasarse a un lector online como issuu. Por lo demás, es una publicación científica gratuita colaborativa de gran calidad. Es un gustazo.<br />
<br />
<a class="tooltip c:2162305-3" href="https://www.meneame.net/story/respirar-sin-respirar/c03#c-3" rel="nofollow">#3</a> El artículo empieza en la página 95, para que nadie se pierda <img data-src="https://cdn.mnmstatic.net/v_149/img/menemojis/36/kiss.gif" alt=":-*" title=":-* :*" width="18" height="18" src="https://cdn.mnmstatic.net/v_149/img/g.gif" class="emoji lazy" /></p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>Jiraiya</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<meneame:comment_id>14604352</meneame:comment_id>
		<meneame:link_id>2162305</meneame:link_id>
		<meneame:order>3</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>--391712--</meneame:user>
		<meneame:votes>6</meneame:votes>
		<meneame:karma>66</meneame:karma>
		<meneame:url>https://www.meneame.net/story/respirar-sin-respirar</meneame:url>
		<title>#3 Respirar, sin respirar</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/respirar-sin-respirar/c03#c-3</link>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Apr 2014 09:20:06 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>--391712--</dc:creator>
		<guid>https://www.meneame.net/story/respirar-sin-respirar/c03#c-3</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[<p><a class="tooltip c:2162305-2" href="https://www.meneame.net/story/respirar-sin-respirar/c02#c-2" rel="nofollow">#2</a> Aquí, PDF en alta calidad <img data-src="https://cdn.mnmstatic.net/v_149/img/menemojis/36/wink.png" alt=";)" title=";)" width="18" height="18" src="https://cdn.mnmstatic.net/v_149/img/g.gif" class="emoji lazy" /> <a href="http://jof.feelsynapsis.com/JoF14_hq.pdf" title="jof.feelsynapsis.com/JoF14_hq.pdf" rel="nofollow">jof.feelsynapsis.com/JoF14_hq.pdf</a></p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>--391712--</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<meneame:comment_id>14604348</meneame:comment_id>
		<meneame:link_id>2162305</meneame:link_id>
		<meneame:order>2</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>takamura</meneame:user>
		<meneame:votes>22</meneame:votes>
		<meneame:karma>202</meneame:karma>
		<meneame:url>https://www.meneame.net/story/respirar-sin-respirar</meneame:url>
		<title>#2 Respirar, sin respirar</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/respirar-sin-respirar/c02#c-2</link>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Apr 2014 09:19:11 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>takamura</dc:creator>
		<guid>https://www.meneame.net/story/respirar-sin-respirar/c02#c-2</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[<p>No sé por qué siguen usando un formato tan mierda en esta revista. Las ilustraciones de los artículos no se ven, en el índice han desaparecido todas las letras que llevan acento y las que las siguen...<br />
<br />
Creo que había por ahí una versión en pdf. A ver si la encuentro.<br />
<br />
Ah, aquí está: <a href="http://feelsynapsis.com/jof/" title="feelsynapsis.com/jof/" rel="nofollow">feelsynapsis.com/jof/</a></p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>takamura</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<meneame:comment_id>14604328</meneame:comment_id>
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		<meneame:order>1</meneame:order>
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		<meneame:url>https://www.meneame.net/story/respirar-sin-respirar</meneame:url>
		<title>#1 Respirar, sin respirar</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/respirar-sin-respirar/c01#c-1</link>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Apr 2014 09:14:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[<p>Muy poético y divulgativo, cada vez mejor <img data-src="https://cdn.mnmstatic.net/v_149/img/menemojis/36/wink.png" alt=";)" title=";)" width="18" height="18" src="https://cdn.mnmstatic.net/v_149/img/g.gif" class="emoji lazy" /></p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>--391712--</strong></p>]]></description>
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