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		<meneame:comment_id>14226243</meneame:comment_id>
		<meneame:link_id>2108244</meneame:link_id>
		<meneame:order>54</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>EricDraven</meneame:user>
		<meneame:votes>2</meneame:votes>
		<meneame:karma>-23</meneame:karma>
		<meneame:url>https://www.meneame.net/story/demostracion-jiu-jitsu-1919</meneame:url>
		<title>#54 Demostracion de Jiu jitsu de 1919</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/demostracion-jiu-jitsu-1919/c054#c-54</link>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Feb 2014 19:28:10 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>EricDraven</dc:creator>
		<guid>https://www.meneame.net/story/demostracion-jiu-jitsu-1919/c054#c-54</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[<p><a class="tooltip c:2108244-48" href="https://www.meneame.net/story/demostracion-jiu-jitsu-1919/c048#c-48" rel="nofollow">#48</a> Lo que tu digas payaso. No tengo por qué convencerte de nada, no has hecho más que confirmar lo que he dicho, que eres un ignorante y un troll, pero vamos que si eres feliz así, tu mismo. Chao subnormal.</p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>EricDraven</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<meneame:comment_id>14224724</meneame:comment_id>
		<meneame:link_id>2108244</meneame:link_id>
		<meneame:order>53</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>Cylona6</meneame:user>
		<meneame:votes>0</meneame:votes>
		<meneame:karma>7</meneame:karma>
		<meneame:url>https://www.meneame.net/story/demostracion-jiu-jitsu-1919</meneame:url>
		<title>#53 Demostracion de Jiu jitsu de 1919</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/demostracion-jiu-jitsu-1919/c053#c-53</link>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Feb 2014 14:51:35 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Cylona6</dc:creator>
		<guid>https://www.meneame.net/story/demostracion-jiu-jitsu-1919/c053#c-53</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[<p><a class="tooltip c:2108244-52" href="https://www.meneame.net/story/demostracion-jiu-jitsu-1919/c052#c-52" rel="nofollow">#52</a> Nunca dije que fuera de origen chino. Dije que tenía origen en artes marciales chinas. Por supuesto que se creo en Japón. Pero a partir de técnicas de artes marciales chinas</p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>Cylona6</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<meneame:comment_id>14224702</meneame:comment_id>
		<meneame:link_id>2108244</meneame:link_id>
		<meneame:order>52</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>Kozel</meneame:user>
		<meneame:votes>0</meneame:votes>
		<meneame:karma>6</meneame:karma>
		<meneame:url>https://www.meneame.net/story/demostracion-jiu-jitsu-1919</meneame:url>
		<title>#52 Demostracion de Jiu jitsu de 1919</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/demostracion-jiu-jitsu-1919/c052#c-52</link>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Feb 2014 14:48:33 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Kozel</dc:creator>
		<guid>https://www.meneame.net/story/demostracion-jiu-jitsu-1919/c052#c-52</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[<p><a class="tooltip c:2108244-51" href="https://www.meneame.net/story/demostracion-jiu-jitsu-1919/c051#c-51" rel="nofollow">#51</a> Totalmente deacuerdo con lo explicado en la wiki, el Ju jutsu es de origen japonés y como te decía por el intercambio cultural cogió técnicas de otros estilos, ahora, decir que el Ju jutsu es de origen totalmente chino no es para nada acertado.</p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>Kozel</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<meneame:comment_id>14224638</meneame:comment_id>
		<meneame:link_id>2108244</meneame:link_id>
		<meneame:order>51</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>Cylona6</meneame:user>
		<meneame:votes>0</meneame:votes>
		<meneame:karma>7</meneame:karma>
		<meneame:url>https://www.meneame.net/story/demostracion-jiu-jitsu-1919</meneame:url>
		<title>#51 Demostracion de Jiu jitsu de 1919</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/demostracion-jiu-jitsu-1919/c051#c-51</link>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Feb 2014 14:41:05 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Cylona6</dc:creator>
		<guid>https://www.meneame.net/story/demostracion-jiu-jitsu-1919/c051#c-51</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[<p><a class="tooltip c:2108244-49" href="https://www.meneame.net/story/demostracion-jiu-jitsu-1919/c049#c-49" rel="nofollow">#49</a> <a class="tooltip c:2108244-50" href="https://www.meneame.net/story/demostracion-jiu-jitsu-1919/c050#c-50" rel="nofollow">#50</a> He de decir que el Shuai Jiao y el Qin Na son estilos de Wushu o Kunf Fu</p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>Cylona6</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<meneame:comment_id>14224628</meneame:comment_id>
		<meneame:link_id>2108244</meneame:link_id>
		<meneame:order>50</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>Cylona6</meneame:user>
		<meneame:votes>0</meneame:votes>
		<meneame:karma>7</meneame:karma>
		<meneame:url>https://www.meneame.net/story/demostracion-jiu-jitsu-1919</meneame:url>
		<title>#50 Demostracion de Jiu jitsu de 1919</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/demostracion-jiu-jitsu-1919/c050#c-50</link>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Feb 2014 14:39:56 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Cylona6</dc:creator>
		<guid>https://www.meneame.net/story/demostracion-jiu-jitsu-1919/c050#c-50</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[<p><a class="tooltip c:2108244-49" href="https://www.meneame.net/story/demostracion-jiu-jitsu-1919/c049#c-49" rel="nofollow">#49</a> <a href="http://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jiu-jitsu" title="es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jiu-jitsu" rel="nofollow">es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jiu-jitsu</a> En el caítulo de historia pone esto:<br />
&#34;El jiu-jitsu probablemente se nutre de técnicas de lanzamiento, estrangulación, y luxación provenientes del Sumai, el antecesor del Sumo, golpes a puntos vitales que podrían provenir del conocimiento marcial de refugiados chinos que durante los disturbios en China en el siglo XIII huían de la dinastía manchú y quienes traían consigo conocimientos de las formas de combate sin armas del kung fu / wu shu o Chuan-fa, y técnicas desarrolladas a lo largo del período feudal japonés por diferentes clanes a partir del combate en armadura o Kumiuchi. También tuvo conexión con Tegumi (lucha nativa de Okinawa)&#34;</p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>Cylona6</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<meneame:comment_id>14224554</meneame:comment_id>
		<meneame:link_id>2108244</meneame:link_id>
		<meneame:order>49</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>Kozel</meneame:user>
		<meneame:votes>0</meneame:votes>
		<meneame:karma>6</meneame:karma>
		<meneame:url>https://www.meneame.net/story/demostracion-jiu-jitsu-1919</meneame:url>
		<title>#49 Demostracion de Jiu jitsu de 1919</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/demostracion-jiu-jitsu-1919/c049#c-49</link>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Feb 2014 14:26:17 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Kozel</dc:creator>
		<guid>https://www.meneame.net/story/demostracion-jiu-jitsu-1919/c049#c-49</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[<p><a class="tooltip c:2108244-47" href="https://www.meneame.net/story/demostracion-jiu-jitsu-1919/c047#c-47" rel="nofollow">#47</a> Yo no pongo en duda la antigüedad del Shuai Jiao o el Qin Na, pero en el caso concreto del Ju Jutsu su origen es autóctono de Japón. Como dije antes no quita que hubiera intercambio cultural entre dos pueblos tan cercanos pero en este caso no hasta el punto de que uno egendrara al otro.</p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>Kozel</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<meneame:comment_id>14224031</meneame:comment_id>
		<meneame:link_id>2108244</meneame:link_id>
		<meneame:order>48</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>Vattenfall</meneame:user>
		<meneame:votes>1</meneame:votes>
		<meneame:karma>3</meneame:karma>
		<meneame:url>https://www.meneame.net/story/demostracion-jiu-jitsu-1919</meneame:url>
		<title>#48 Demostracion de Jiu jitsu de 1919</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/demostracion-jiu-jitsu-1919/c048#c-48</link>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Feb 2014 13:09:09 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Vattenfall</dc:creator>
		<guid>https://www.meneame.net/story/demostracion-jiu-jitsu-1919/c048#c-48</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[<p><a class="tooltip c:2108244-37" href="https://www.meneame.net/story/demostracion-jiu-jitsu-1919/c037#c-37" rel="nofollow">#37</a> No has practicado una mierda porque sino no dirías las chorradas que dices. Aikido es una mentira. Engañaras a los 4 frikis mesianicos. A mí no.</p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>Vattenfall</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<meneame:comment_id>14223881</meneame:comment_id>
		<meneame:link_id>2108244</meneame:link_id>
		<meneame:order>47</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>Cylona6</meneame:user>
		<meneame:votes>0</meneame:votes>
		<meneame:karma>7</meneame:karma>
		<meneame:url>https://www.meneame.net/story/demostracion-jiu-jitsu-1919</meneame:url>
		<title>#47 Demostracion de Jiu jitsu de 1919</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/demostracion-jiu-jitsu-1919/c047#c-47</link>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Feb 2014 12:47:49 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Cylona6</dc:creator>
		<guid>https://www.meneame.net/story/demostracion-jiu-jitsu-1919/c047#c-47</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[<p><a class="tooltip c:2108244-46" href="https://www.meneame.net/story/demostracion-jiu-jitsu-1919/c046#c-46" rel="nofollow">#46</a> A nivel histórico es muuucho mas antiguo tanto el Shuai Jiao y el Qin Na. El Shuai Jiao es un arte de técnicas de proyección y lucha suelo, mientras que el Qin Na son técnica de luxación y control. Teniendo en cuenta que éstas artes tienen mas de 2000 años con la evolución del Wushu chino (no me voy a meter en l a historia de Bodidharma) y que las artes marciales Japonesas tienen origen en la época medieval (menos de 1000 años) está claro que son una evolución de estos. Las artes marciales no surjen de la nada, no llega un tio y dice, voy a crear un estilo de la nada, vacogiendo cosas. Y como siempre tieni que haber algo antes y en primero lo coge de imitar a animales y luego aplicarlo a la guerra. De ahí por un método de ensayo error va modificándolo y mejorándolo. Personalmente a nivel combate me gusta mas el Jiu Jitsu Brasileño y no deja de ser una evolución del Japonés.</p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>Cylona6</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<meneame:comment_id>14223761</meneame:comment_id>
		<meneame:link_id>2108244</meneame:link_id>
		<meneame:order>46</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>Kozel</meneame:user>
		<meneame:votes>0</meneame:votes>
		<meneame:karma>6</meneame:karma>
		<meneame:url>https://www.meneame.net/story/demostracion-jiu-jitsu-1919</meneame:url>
		<title>#46 Demostracion de Jiu jitsu de 1919</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/demostracion-jiu-jitsu-1919/c046#c-46</link>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Feb 2014 12:34:56 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Kozel</dc:creator>
		<guid>https://www.meneame.net/story/demostracion-jiu-jitsu-1919/c046#c-46</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[<p><a class="tooltip c:2108244-44" href="https://www.meneame.net/story/demostracion-jiu-jitsu-1919/c044#c-44" rel="nofollow">#44</a> Siento discrepar con la parte final de tu entrada el Ju Jutsu es de origen japonés, he visto vídeos sobre las artes marciales chinas que mencionas y más bien parece que es el al contrario y que ha sido el Ju Jutsu el que las ha influenciado. Con esto no quiero decir que en el pasado no hubiera influencia entre ambos artes marciales pero desde luego no hasta el punto de que el Ju Jutsu japonés derive directamente de escuelas chinas. <br />
Si que es cierto que ell karate Okinawense tiene gran influencia de artes marciales chinas, pero en el caso del Ju Jutsu no es así.</p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>Kozel</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<meneame:comment_id>14222335</meneame:comment_id>
		<meneame:link_id>2108244</meneame:link_id>
		<meneame:order>45</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>Cylona6</meneame:user>
		<meneame:votes>0</meneame:votes>
		<meneame:karma>7</meneame:karma>
		<meneame:url>https://www.meneame.net/story/demostracion-jiu-jitsu-1919</meneame:url>
		<title>#45 Demostracion de Jiu jitsu de 1919</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/demostracion-jiu-jitsu-1919/c045#c-45</link>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Feb 2014 08:45:28 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Cylona6</dc:creator>
		<guid>https://www.meneame.net/story/demostracion-jiu-jitsu-1919/c045#c-45</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[<p>Por cierto las técnicas muy efectivas cuando el Uke no ofrece resistencia.</p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>Cylona6</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<meneame:comment_id>14222331</meneame:comment_id>
		<meneame:link_id>2108244</meneame:link_id>
		<meneame:order>44</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>Cylona6</meneame:user>
		<meneame:votes>1</meneame:votes>
		<meneame:karma>13</meneame:karma>
		<meneame:url>https://www.meneame.net/story/demostracion-jiu-jitsu-1919</meneame:url>
		<title>#44 Demostracion de Jiu jitsu de 1919</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/demostracion-jiu-jitsu-1919/c044#c-44</link>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Feb 2014 08:44:31 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Cylona6</dc:creator>
		<guid>https://www.meneame.net/story/demostracion-jiu-jitsu-1919/c044#c-44</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[<p>Aikido o camino de la energía del amor, surje mayoritariamente del Ju Jitsu, aunque pueda tener cosas de otras artes marciales. Personalmente es mas efectivo el Ju Jitsu. Ahora el Ju Jistu tiene origen en artes marciales chinas como el Shuai Jiao y el Qin Na.</p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>Cylona6</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<meneame:comment_id>14221979</meneame:comment_id>
		<meneame:link_id>2108244</meneame:link_id>
		<meneame:order>43</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>ipanies</meneame:user>
		<meneame:votes>0</meneame:votes>
		<meneame:karma>12</meneame:karma>
		<meneame:url>https://www.meneame.net/story/demostracion-jiu-jitsu-1919</meneame:url>
		<title>#43 Demostracion de Jiu jitsu de 1919</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/demostracion-jiu-jitsu-1919/c043#c-43</link>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Feb 2014 06:40:36 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>ipanies</dc:creator>
		<guid>https://www.meneame.net/story/demostracion-jiu-jitsu-1919/c043#c-43</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[<p>Es Hannibal Lecter!!!</p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>ipanies</strong></p>]]></description>
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	<item>
		<meneame:comment_id>14221583</meneame:comment_id>
		<meneame:link_id>2108244</meneame:link_id>
		<meneame:order>42</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>abnog</meneame:user>
		<meneame:votes>0</meneame:votes>
		<meneame:karma>6</meneame:karma>
		<meneame:url>https://www.meneame.net/story/demostracion-jiu-jitsu-1919</meneame:url>
		<title>#42 Demostracion de Jiu jitsu de 1919</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/demostracion-jiu-jitsu-1919/c042#c-42</link>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Feb 2014 00:12:53 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>abnog</dc:creator>
		<guid>https://www.meneame.net/story/demostracion-jiu-jitsu-1919/c042#c-42</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[<p>Ni tatami ni pollas, con moqueta, si señor, con dos cojones.</p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>abnog</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<meneame:comment_id>14221505</meneame:comment_id>
		<meneame:link_id>2108244</meneame:link_id>
		<meneame:order>41</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>lazarus1907</meneame:user>
		<meneame:votes>0</meneame:votes>
		<meneame:karma>9</meneame:karma>
		<meneame:url>https://www.meneame.net/story/demostracion-jiu-jitsu-1919</meneame:url>
		<title>#41 Demostracion de Jiu jitsu de 1919</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/demostracion-jiu-jitsu-1919/c041#c-41</link>
		<pubDate>Sun, 02 Feb 2014 23:48:02 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>lazarus1907</dc:creator>
		<guid>https://www.meneame.net/story/demostracion-jiu-jitsu-1919/c041#c-41</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[<p>Es curioso: yo solo he practicado un poco de aikido y el jiu-jitsu solo lo he visto mientras lo ejecutaban otros, pero parece más aikido que otra cosa. Nota: sí, soy consciente de los orígenes del aikido y he leído sobre el Daito-Ryu.<br />
Una demostración muy interesante, por cierto.</p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>lazarus1907</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<meneame:comment_id>14221489</meneame:comment_id>
		<meneame:link_id>2108244</meneame:link_id>
		<meneame:order>40</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>Duernu</meneame:user>
		<meneame:votes>0</meneame:votes>
		<meneame:karma>9</meneame:karma>
		<meneame:url>https://www.meneame.net/story/demostracion-jiu-jitsu-1919</meneame:url>
		<title>#40 Demostracion de Jiu jitsu de 1919</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/demostracion-jiu-jitsu-1919/c040#c-40</link>
		<pubDate>Sun, 02 Feb 2014 23:43:51 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Duernu</dc:creator>
		<guid>https://www.meneame.net/story/demostracion-jiu-jitsu-1919/c040#c-40</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[<p>Corre Pili! He encontrado un vídeo de Fraga haciendo cosas raras cuando era joven!</p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>Duernu</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<meneame:comment_id>14221377</meneame:comment_id>
		<meneame:link_id>2108244</meneame:link_id>
		<meneame:order>39</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>--179053--</meneame:user>
		<meneame:votes>0</meneame:votes>
		<meneame:karma>11</meneame:karma>
		<meneame:url>https://www.meneame.net/story/demostracion-jiu-jitsu-1919</meneame:url>
		<title>#39 Demostracion de Jiu jitsu de 1919</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/demostracion-jiu-jitsu-1919/c039#c-39</link>
		<pubDate>Sun, 02 Feb 2014 23:20:37 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>--179053--</dc:creator>
		<guid>https://www.meneame.net/story/demostracion-jiu-jitsu-1919/c039#c-39</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[<p>Está pidiendo memes a gritos <img data-src="https://cdn.mnmstatic.net/v_149/img/menemojis/36/grin.png" alt=":-D" title=":-D" width="18" height="18" src="https://cdn.mnmstatic.net/v_149/img/g.gif" class="emoji lazy" /></p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>--179053--</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<meneame:comment_id>14221255</meneame:comment_id>
		<meneame:link_id>2108244</meneame:link_id>
		<meneame:order>38</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>EricDraven</meneame:user>
		<meneame:votes>1</meneame:votes>
		<meneame:karma>-4</meneame:karma>
		<meneame:url>https://www.meneame.net/story/demostracion-jiu-jitsu-1919</meneame:url>
		<title>#38 Demostracion de Jiu jitsu de 1919</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/demostracion-jiu-jitsu-1919/c038#c-38</link>
		<pubDate>Sun, 02 Feb 2014 22:53:31 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>EricDraven</dc:creator>
		<guid>https://www.meneame.net/story/demostracion-jiu-jitsu-1919/c038#c-38</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[<p><a class="tooltip c:2108244-34" href="https://www.meneame.net/story/demostracion-jiu-jitsu-1919/c034#c-34" rel="nofollow">#34</a> pues no puedo más que darte la razón <img data-src="https://cdn.mnmstatic.net/v_149/img/menemojis/36/lol.gif" alt="xD" title=":lol: xD" width="18" height="18" src="https://cdn.mnmstatic.net/v_149/img/g.gif" class="emoji lazy" /></p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>EricDraven</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<meneame:comment_id>14221235</meneame:comment_id>
		<meneame:link_id>2108244</meneame:link_id>
		<meneame:order>37</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>EricDraven</meneame:user>
		<meneame:votes>2</meneame:votes>
		<meneame:karma>-10</meneame:karma>
		<meneame:url>https://www.meneame.net/story/demostracion-jiu-jitsu-1919</meneame:url>
		<title>#37 Demostracion de Jiu jitsu de 1919</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/demostracion-jiu-jitsu-1919/c037#c-37</link>
		<pubDate>Sun, 02 Feb 2014 22:49:34 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>EricDraven</dc:creator>
		<guid>https://www.meneame.net/story/demostracion-jiu-jitsu-1919/c037#c-37</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[<p><a class="tooltip c:2108244-35" href="https://www.meneame.net/story/demostracion-jiu-jitsu-1919/c035#c-35" rel="nofollow">#35</a> Para tu información, so pamplinas, he practicado aikido durante dos años, desgraciadamente tuve que dejarlo. El resto de mi vida he hecho taekwondo, hapkido y jiujitsu, además de haber tocado algo de full contact y MMA. Creo que estoy en posición de comparar. Tú, por cómo hablas, no eres más que un bocas ignorante de los que realmente no tienen media hostia. O un troll</p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>EricDraven</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<meneame:comment_id>14221103</meneame:comment_id>
		<meneame:link_id>2108244</meneame:link_id>
		<meneame:order>36</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>GreenNight</meneame:user>
		<meneame:votes>2</meneame:votes>
		<meneame:karma>22</meneame:karma>
		<meneame:url>https://www.meneame.net/story/demostracion-jiu-jitsu-1919</meneame:url>
		<title>#36 Demostracion de Jiu jitsu de 1919</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/demostracion-jiu-jitsu-1919/c036#c-36</link>
		<pubDate>Sun, 02 Feb 2014 22:25:07 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>GreenNight</dc:creator>
		<guid>https://www.meneame.net/story/demostracion-jiu-jitsu-1919/c036#c-36</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[<p><a class="tooltip c:2108244-26" href="https://www.meneame.net/story/demostracion-jiu-jitsu-1919/c026#c-26" rel="nofollow">#26</a> Un rodillazo en la cara (que lo da quien se &#34;defiende&#34;) quiere decir que no es aikido. Las bofetadas aún.</p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>GreenNight</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<meneame:comment_id>14221100</meneame:comment_id>
		<meneame:link_id>2108244</meneame:link_id>
		<meneame:order>35</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>Vattenfall</meneame:user>
		<meneame:votes>5</meneame:votes>
		<meneame:karma>-35</meneame:karma>
		<meneame:url>https://www.meneame.net/story/demostracion-jiu-jitsu-1919</meneame:url>
		<title>#35 Demostracion de Jiu jitsu de 1919</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/demostracion-jiu-jitsu-1919/c035#c-35</link>
		<pubDate>Sun, 02 Feb 2014 22:24:50 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Vattenfall</dc:creator>
		<guid>https://www.meneame.net/story/demostracion-jiu-jitsu-1919/c035#c-35</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[<p><a class="tooltip c:2108244-33" href="https://www.meneame.net/story/demostracion-jiu-jitsu-1919/c033#c-33" rel="nofollow">#33</a> El aikido es para frikis que se creen todas esas chorradas ni media hostia con la mano abierta. Frikazo jajajaja Sigue practicando. Ve a un torneo a hacerte rico. Como se puede ser tan imbecil?<br />
insito no es jiu-jitsu.</p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>Vattenfall</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<meneame:comment_id>14221085</meneame:comment_id>
		<meneame:link_id>2108244</meneame:link_id>
		<meneame:order>34</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>--415718--</meneame:user>
		<meneame:votes>0</meneame:votes>
		<meneame:karma>6</meneame:karma>
		<meneame:url>https://www.meneame.net/story/demostracion-jiu-jitsu-1919</meneame:url>
		<title>#34 Demostracion de Jiu jitsu de 1919</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/demostracion-jiu-jitsu-1919/c034#c-34</link>
		<pubDate>Sun, 02 Feb 2014 22:20:28 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>--415718--</dc:creator>
		<guid>https://www.meneame.net/story/demostracion-jiu-jitsu-1919/c034#c-34</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[<p><a class="tooltip c:2108244-33" href="https://www.meneame.net/story/demostracion-jiu-jitsu-1919/c033#c-33" rel="nofollow">#33</a> Yo creo que el arte marciana mas efectiva es el gun-fu.<br />
<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e_Vl67brJjM" title="www.youtube.com/watch?v=e_Vl67brJjM" rel="nofollow">www.youtube.com/watch?v=e_Vl67brJjM</a></p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>--415718--</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<meneame:comment_id>14220577</meneame:comment_id>
		<meneame:link_id>2108244</meneame:link_id>
		<meneame:order>33</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>EricDraven</meneame:user>
		<meneame:votes>4</meneame:votes>
		<meneame:karma>-31</meneame:karma>
		<meneame:url>https://www.meneame.net/story/demostracion-jiu-jitsu-1919</meneame:url>
		<title>#33 Demostracion de Jiu jitsu de 1919</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/demostracion-jiu-jitsu-1919/c033#c-33</link>
		<pubDate>Sun, 02 Feb 2014 20:39:00 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>EricDraven</dc:creator>
		<guid>https://www.meneame.net/story/demostracion-jiu-jitsu-1919/c033#c-33</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[<p><a class="tooltip c:2108244-26" href="https://www.meneame.net/story/demostracion-jiu-jitsu-1919/c026#c-26" rel="nofollow">#26</a> No es aikido y no tienes ni puta idea de lo que hablas. El aikido (aikikai) es el arte marcial más efectivo, y más difícil de aprender, de todas las que he practicado, y son bastantes.</p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>EricDraven</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<meneame:comment_id>14220417</meneame:comment_id>
		<meneame:link_id>2108244</meneame:link_id>
		<meneame:order>32</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>Twilightning</meneame:user>
		<meneame:votes>4</meneame:votes>
		<meneame:karma>39</meneame:karma>
		<meneame:url>https://www.meneame.net/story/demostracion-jiu-jitsu-1919</meneame:url>
		<title>#32 Demostracion de Jiu jitsu de 1919</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/demostracion-jiu-jitsu-1919/c032#c-32</link>
		<pubDate>Sun, 02 Feb 2014 20:07:15 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Twilightning</dc:creator>
		<guid>https://www.meneame.net/story/demostracion-jiu-jitsu-1919/c032#c-32</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[<p>Gente antigua haciendo cosas de ahora <img data-src="https://cdn.mnmstatic.net/v_149/img/menemojis/36/shocked.gif" alt=":-O" title=":-O" width="18" height="18" src="https://cdn.mnmstatic.net/v_149/img/g.gif" class="emoji lazy" /></p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>Twilightning</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<meneame:comment_id>14220408</meneame:comment_id>
		<meneame:link_id>2108244</meneame:link_id>
		<meneame:order>31</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>efore</meneame:user>
		<meneame:votes>0</meneame:votes>
		<meneame:karma>6</meneame:karma>
		<meneame:url>https://www.meneame.net/story/demostracion-jiu-jitsu-1919</meneame:url>
		<title>#31 Demostracion de Jiu jitsu de 1919</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/demostracion-jiu-jitsu-1919/c031#c-31</link>
		<pubDate>Sun, 02 Feb 2014 20:05:29 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>efore</dc:creator>
		<guid>https://www.meneame.net/story/demostracion-jiu-jitsu-1919/c031#c-31</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[<p>Nadie le puede añadir el tema principal de la película &#34;El Golpe&#34;?</p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>efore</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<meneame:comment_id>14220347</meneame:comment_id>
		<meneame:link_id>2108244</meneame:link_id>
		<meneame:order>30</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>Frippertronic</meneame:user>
		<meneame:votes>3</meneame:votes>
		<meneame:karma>29</meneame:karma>
		<meneame:url>https://www.meneame.net/story/demostracion-jiu-jitsu-1919</meneame:url>
		<title>#30 Demostracion de Jiu jitsu de 1919</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/demostracion-jiu-jitsu-1919/c030#c-30</link>
		<pubDate>Sun, 02 Feb 2014 19:55:32 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Frippertronic</dc:creator>
		<guid>https://www.meneame.net/story/demostracion-jiu-jitsu-1919/c030#c-30</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[<p>Eso es Barney Stinson practicando Jiu Jitsu <img data-src="https://cdn.mnmstatic.net/v_149/img/menemojis/36/lol.gif" alt="xD" title=":lol: xD" width="18" height="18" src="https://cdn.mnmstatic.net/v_149/img/g.gif" class="emoji lazy" /></p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>Frippertronic</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<meneame:comment_id>14220311</meneame:comment_id>
		<meneame:link_id>2108244</meneame:link_id>
		<meneame:order>29</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>Lordkrudell</meneame:user>
		<meneame:votes>0</meneame:votes>
		<meneame:karma>8</meneame:karma>
		<meneame:url>https://www.meneame.net/story/demostracion-jiu-jitsu-1919</meneame:url>
		<title>#29 Demostracion de Jiu jitsu de 1919</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/demostracion-jiu-jitsu-1919/c029#c-29</link>
		<pubDate>Sun, 02 Feb 2014 19:50:00 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Lordkrudell</dc:creator>
		<guid>https://www.meneame.net/story/demostracion-jiu-jitsu-1919/c029#c-29</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[<p>Me gustó la parte de los soplamocos.</p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>Lordkrudell</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<meneame:comment_id>14220238</meneame:comment_id>
		<meneame:link_id>2108244</meneame:link_id>
		<meneame:order>28</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>Kozel</meneame:user>
		<meneame:votes>5</meneame:votes>
		<meneame:karma>50</meneame:karma>
		<meneame:url>https://www.meneame.net/story/demostracion-jiu-jitsu-1919</meneame:url>
		<title>#28 Demostracion de Jiu jitsu de 1919</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/demostracion-jiu-jitsu-1919/c028#c-28</link>
		<pubDate>Sun, 02 Feb 2014 19:37:57 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Kozel</dc:creator>
		<guid>https://www.meneame.net/story/demostracion-jiu-jitsu-1919/c028#c-28</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[<p>Me gustaría aclarar que el término más correcto sería Ju Jutsu o a lo sumo Ju Jitsu. La deformación Jiu Jitsu proviene concretamente del BJJ (brazilian ju jutsu). Este arte marcial fue introducido en Brasil por un alumno de Jigoro Kano (fundador del Judo) e imagino que al escuchar los brasileños la manera de pronunciar &#34;Ju&#34; con el tiempo se transformó en Jiu que es lo que se suele escuchar hoy en día sobretodo con el auge del BJJ que existe actualmente.<br />
<br />
Sobre los orígenes del aikido o el judo, puedo decir que el primero y como decían más arriba proviene concretamente de Daito-Ryu Aiki-Jujutsu. El judo concretamente proviene de otra escuela japonesa llamada Kito Ryu.</p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>Kozel</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<meneame:comment_id>14220222</meneame:comment_id>
		<meneame:link_id>2108244</meneame:link_id>
		<meneame:order>27</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>Happo</meneame:user>
		<meneame:votes>0</meneame:votes>
		<meneame:karma>8</meneame:karma>
		<meneame:url>https://www.meneame.net/story/demostracion-jiu-jitsu-1919</meneame:url>
		<title>#27 Demostracion de Jiu jitsu de 1919</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/demostracion-jiu-jitsu-1919/c027#c-27</link>
		<pubDate>Sun, 02 Feb 2014 19:35:09 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Happo</dc:creator>
		<guid>https://www.meneame.net/story/demostracion-jiu-jitsu-1919/c027#c-27</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[<p>Pero que hace Buster Keaton peleándose con ese señor bajito?</p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>Happo</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<meneame:comment_id>14220183</meneame:comment_id>
		<meneame:link_id>2108244</meneame:link_id>
		<meneame:order>26</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>Vattenfall</meneame:user>
		<meneame:votes>4</meneame:votes>
		<meneame:karma>-23</meneame:karma>
		<meneame:url>https://www.meneame.net/story/demostracion-jiu-jitsu-1919</meneame:url>
		<title>#26 Demostracion de Jiu jitsu de 1919</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/demostracion-jiu-jitsu-1919/c026#c-26</link>
		<pubDate>Sun, 02 Feb 2014 19:28:21 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Vattenfall</dc:creator>
		<guid>https://www.meneame.net/story/demostracion-jiu-jitsu-1919/c026#c-26</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[<p>Es aikido. ( nota: el aikido es un pegote que no vale para nada)</p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>Vattenfall</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<meneame:comment_id>14220119</meneame:comment_id>
		<meneame:link_id>2108244</meneame:link_id>
		<meneame:order>25</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>Atrydas</meneame:user>
		<meneame:votes>0</meneame:votes>
		<meneame:karma>6</meneame:karma>
		<meneame:url>https://www.meneame.net/story/demostracion-jiu-jitsu-1919</meneame:url>
		<title>#25 Demostracion de Jiu jitsu de 1919</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/demostracion-jiu-jitsu-1919/c025#c-25</link>
		<pubDate>Sun, 02 Feb 2014 19:16:17 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Atrydas</dc:creator>
		<guid>https://www.meneame.net/story/demostracion-jiu-jitsu-1919/c025#c-25</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[<p><a class="tooltip c:2108244-10" href="https://www.meneame.net/story/demostracion-jiu-jitsu-1919/c010#c-10" rel="nofollow">#10</a> También pensé en eso, pero siendo un vídeo que no añade ningún tipo de información sobre quien realizó el restaurado, o quienes son las personas que aparecen, creo que habría que ser cautelosos.</p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>Atrydas</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<meneame:comment_id>14219994</meneame:comment_id>
		<meneame:link_id>2108244</meneame:link_id>
		<meneame:order>24</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>--410584--</meneame:user>
		<meneame:votes>2</meneame:votes>
		<meneame:karma>21</meneame:karma>
		<meneame:url>https://www.meneame.net/story/demostracion-jiu-jitsu-1919</meneame:url>
		<title>#24 Demostracion de Jiu jitsu de 1919</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/demostracion-jiu-jitsu-1919/c024#c-24</link>
		<pubDate>Sun, 02 Feb 2014 18:57:32 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>--410584--</dc:creator>
		<guid>https://www.meneame.net/story/demostracion-jiu-jitsu-1919/c024#c-24</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[<p>Morihei Ueshiba fundador del Aikido practicaba varias disciplinas marciales pero sin lugar a dudas la que más le influyo fue la Daito-Ryu Aiki-Jujutsu. Morihei fue alumno y amigo personal, hasta que dejaron de serlo, del maestro de Daito-Ryu Aiki-Jujutsu Sokaku Takeda.<br />
El Eikido es enteramente Japonés, ciertas disciplinas koreanas tienen su base al igual que el Aikido en la disciplina practicada por Sokaku Takeda.</p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>--410584--</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<meneame:comment_id>14219819</meneame:comment_id>
		<meneame:link_id>2108244</meneame:link_id>
		<meneame:order>23</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>Zamarro</meneame:user>
		<meneame:votes>1</meneame:votes>
		<meneame:karma>18</meneame:karma>
		<meneame:url>https://www.meneame.net/story/demostracion-jiu-jitsu-1919</meneame:url>
		<title>#23 Demostracion de Jiu jitsu de 1919</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/demostracion-jiu-jitsu-1919/c023#c-23</link>
		<pubDate>Sun, 02 Feb 2014 18:32:52 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Zamarro</dc:creator>
		<guid>https://www.meneame.net/story/demostracion-jiu-jitsu-1919/c023#c-23</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[<p>Me da pena el pobre padawan, que besa el suelo mas de 50 veces en unos pocos minutos.<br />
<br />
Parece fake, pero no pondria la mano en el fuego.</p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>Zamarro</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<meneame:comment_id>14219812</meneame:comment_id>
		<meneame:link_id>2108244</meneame:link_id>
		<meneame:order>22</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>LuisPas</meneame:user>
		<meneame:votes>3</meneame:votes>
		<meneame:karma>31</meneame:karma>
		<meneame:url>https://www.meneame.net/story/demostracion-jiu-jitsu-1919</meneame:url>
		<title>#22 Demostracion de Jiu jitsu de 1919</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/demostracion-jiu-jitsu-1919/c022#c-22</link>
		<pubDate>Sun, 02 Feb 2014 18:31:19 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>LuisPas</dc:creator>
		<guid>https://www.meneame.net/story/demostracion-jiu-jitsu-1919/c022#c-22</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[<p>porque Downtown Abbey no es asi?</p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>LuisPas</strong></p>]]></description>
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	<item>
		<meneame:comment_id>14219803</meneame:comment_id>
		<meneame:link_id>2108244</meneame:link_id>
		<meneame:order>21</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>MrNapster</meneame:user>
		<meneame:votes>8</meneame:votes>
		<meneame:karma>77</meneame:karma>
		<meneame:url>https://www.meneame.net/story/demostracion-jiu-jitsu-1919</meneame:url>
		<title>#21 Demostracion de Jiu jitsu de 1919</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/demostracion-jiu-jitsu-1919/c021#c-21</link>
		<pubDate>Sun, 02 Feb 2014 18:27:35 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>MrNapster</dc:creator>
		<guid>https://www.meneame.net/story/demostracion-jiu-jitsu-1919/c021#c-21</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[<p>Muy útil.<br />
Lo tendré en cuenta por si me intentan robar el bombín.</p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>MrNapster</strong></p>]]></description>
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	<item>
		<meneame:comment_id>14219786</meneame:comment_id>
		<meneame:link_id>2108244</meneame:link_id>
		<meneame:order>20</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>kukudrulo</meneame:user>
		<meneame:votes>0</meneame:votes>
		<meneame:karma>6</meneame:karma>
		<meneame:url>https://www.meneame.net/story/demostracion-jiu-jitsu-1919</meneame:url>
		<title>#20 Demostracion de Jiu jitsu de 1919</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/demostracion-jiu-jitsu-1919/c020#c-20</link>
		<pubDate>Sun, 02 Feb 2014 18:22:36 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>kukudrulo</dc:creator>
		<guid>https://www.meneame.net/story/demostracion-jiu-jitsu-1919/c020#c-20</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[<p>ni se despeinan</p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>kukudrulo</strong></p>]]></description>
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	<item>
		<meneame:comment_id>14219719</meneame:comment_id>
		<meneame:link_id>2108244</meneame:link_id>
		<meneame:order>19</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>--54763--</meneame:user>
		<meneame:votes>6</meneame:votes>
		<meneame:karma>72</meneame:karma>
		<meneame:url>https://www.meneame.net/story/demostracion-jiu-jitsu-1919</meneame:url>
		<title>#19 Demostracion de Jiu jitsu de 1919</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/demostracion-jiu-jitsu-1919/c019#c-19</link>
		<pubDate>Sun, 02 Feb 2014 18:09:17 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>--54763--</dc:creator>
		<guid>https://www.meneame.net/story/demostracion-jiu-jitsu-1919/c019#c-19</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[<p>[Usuario deshabilitado]</p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>--54763--</strong></p>]]></description>
	</item>

	<item>
		<meneame:comment_id>14219718</meneame:comment_id>
		<meneame:link_id>2108244</meneame:link_id>
		<meneame:order>18</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>--66115--</meneame:user>
		<meneame:votes>1</meneame:votes>
		<meneame:karma>13</meneame:karma>
		<meneame:url>https://www.meneame.net/story/demostracion-jiu-jitsu-1919</meneame:url>
		<title>#18 Demostracion de Jiu jitsu de 1919</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/demostracion-jiu-jitsu-1919/c018#c-18</link>
		<pubDate>Sun, 02 Feb 2014 18:09:16 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>--66115--</dc:creator>
		<guid>https://www.meneame.net/story/demostracion-jiu-jitsu-1919/c018#c-18</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[<p>Aquí un vídeo que dice ser de 1912: <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FGmteZ0k0pc" title="www.youtube.com/watch?v=FGmteZ0k0pc" rel="nofollow">www.youtube.com/watch?v=FGmteZ0k0pc</a></p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>--66115--</strong></p>]]></description>
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	<item>
		<meneame:comment_id>14219677</meneame:comment_id>
		<meneame:link_id>2108244</meneame:link_id>
		<meneame:order>17</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>Avaray</meneame:user>
		<meneame:votes>11</meneame:votes>
		<meneame:karma>101</meneame:karma>
		<meneame:url>https://www.meneame.net/story/demostracion-jiu-jitsu-1919</meneame:url>
		<title>#17 Demostracion de Jiu jitsu de 1919</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/demostracion-jiu-jitsu-1919/c017#c-17</link>
		<pubDate>Sun, 02 Feb 2014 18:03:14 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Avaray</dc:creator>
		<guid>https://www.meneame.net/story/demostracion-jiu-jitsu-1919/c017#c-17</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[<p><a class="tooltip c:2108244-14" href="https://www.meneame.net/story/demostracion-jiu-jitsu-1919/c014#c-14" rel="nofollow">#14</a> <a class="tooltip c:2108244-15" href="https://www.meneame.net/story/demostracion-jiu-jitsu-1919/c015#c-15" rel="nofollow">#15</a> Más o menos. El jujitsu si mal no recuerdo era un arte propio de samurais y soldados profesionales. El judo es una depuración deportiva del jujitsu. El aikido bebe también de él pero tiene influencias muy fuertes de otro tipo, algunas de origen chino. Y el karate, pues depende de a quien veas y que karate haga, pero se supone que contiene esas técnicas, si bien serían de procedencia más china, aunque muchos estilos las han perdido y las reinjertan estudiando ju jitsu, tai jitsu y similares. El mundo de las artes marciales es como el de los borbones, pueden ser todas primas, hermanas, madres y sobrinas de otras a la vez.</p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>Avaray</strong></p>]]></description>
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	<item>
		<meneame:comment_id>14219608</meneame:comment_id>
		<meneame:link_id>2108244</meneame:link_id>
		<meneame:order>16</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>--343064--</meneame:user>
		<meneame:votes>1</meneame:votes>
		<meneame:karma>17</meneame:karma>
		<meneame:url>https://www.meneame.net/story/demostracion-jiu-jitsu-1919</meneame:url>
		<title>#16 Demostracion de Jiu jitsu de 1919</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/demostracion-jiu-jitsu-1919/c016#c-16</link>
		<pubDate>Sun, 02 Feb 2014 17:49:19 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>--343064--</dc:creator>
		<guid>https://www.meneame.net/story/demostracion-jiu-jitsu-1919/c016#c-16</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[<p>[Usuario deshabilitado]</p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>--343064--</strong></p>]]></description>
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	<item>
		<meneame:comment_id>14219596</meneame:comment_id>
		<meneame:link_id>2108244</meneame:link_id>
		<meneame:order>15</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>Vuduchild</meneame:user>
		<meneame:votes>5</meneame:votes>
		<meneame:karma>54</meneame:karma>
		<meneame:url>https://www.meneame.net/story/demostracion-jiu-jitsu-1919</meneame:url>
		<title>#15 Demostracion de Jiu jitsu de 1919</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/demostracion-jiu-jitsu-1919/c015#c-15</link>
		<pubDate>Sun, 02 Feb 2014 17:47:36 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Vuduchild</dc:creator>
		<guid>https://www.meneame.net/story/demostracion-jiu-jitsu-1919/c015#c-15</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[<p><a class="tooltip c:2108244-14" href="https://www.meneame.net/story/demostracion-jiu-jitsu-1919/c014#c-14" rel="nofollow">#14</a> efectivamente, al menos el judo y el aikido vienen del jujitsu</p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>Vuduchild</strong></p>]]></description>
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	<item>
		<meneame:comment_id>14219577</meneame:comment_id>
		<meneame:link_id>2108244</meneame:link_id>
		<meneame:order>14</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>MEV</meneame:user>
		<meneame:votes>13</meneame:votes>
		<meneame:karma>144</meneame:karma>
		<meneame:url>https://www.meneame.net/story/demostracion-jiu-jitsu-1919</meneame:url>
		<title>#14 Demostracion de Jiu jitsu de 1919</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/demostracion-jiu-jitsu-1919/c014#c-14</link>
		<pubDate>Sun, 02 Feb 2014 17:43:22 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>MEV</dc:creator>
		<guid>https://www.meneame.net/story/demostracion-jiu-jitsu-1919/c014#c-14</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[<p><a class="tooltip c:2108244-5" href="https://www.meneame.net/story/demostracion-jiu-jitsu-1919/c05#c-5" rel="nofollow">#5</a> Por lo que me explicaron en su día cuando entrené jiujitsu, el jiujitsu japonés (no confundir con BJJ) es la raíz común de judo, aikido y ¿kárate?. De ahí cada uno tiró por la especialización en determinado estilo.<br />
<br />
Supongo que vendrá alguien más enterado a corregirme, pero vamos, eso es lo que me enseñaron.</p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>MEV</strong></p>]]></description>
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	<item>
		<meneame:comment_id>14219538</meneame:comment_id>
		<meneame:link_id>2108244</meneame:link_id>
		<meneame:order>13</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>syngamus</meneame:user>
		<meneame:votes>0</meneame:votes>
		<meneame:karma>6</meneame:karma>
		<meneame:url>https://www.meneame.net/story/demostracion-jiu-jitsu-1919</meneame:url>
		<title>#13 Demostracion de Jiu jitsu de 1919</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/demostracion-jiu-jitsu-1919/c013#c-13</link>
		<pubDate>Sun, 02 Feb 2014 17:33:33 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>syngamus</dc:creator>
		<guid>https://www.meneame.net/story/demostracion-jiu-jitsu-1919/c013#c-13</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[<p>¡El alto se come las del pulpo!</p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>syngamus</strong></p>]]></description>
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	<item>
		<meneame:comment_id>14219526</meneame:comment_id>
		<meneame:link_id>2108244</meneame:link_id>
		<meneame:order>12</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>chulonsky</meneame:user>
		<meneame:votes>6</meneame:votes>
		<meneame:karma>-43</meneame:karma>
		<meneame:url>https://www.meneame.net/story/demostracion-jiu-jitsu-1919</meneame:url>
		<title>#12 Demostracion de Jiu jitsu de 1919</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/demostracion-jiu-jitsu-1919/c012#c-12</link>
		<pubDate>Sun, 02 Feb 2014 17:31:25 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>chulonsky</dc:creator>
		<guid>https://www.meneame.net/story/demostracion-jiu-jitsu-1919/c012#c-12</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[<p>No me lo creo. Os habeis comido un fake. Otro más.</p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>chulonsky</strong></p>]]></description>
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	<item>
		<meneame:comment_id>14219517</meneame:comment_id>
		<meneame:link_id>2108244</meneame:link_id>
		<meneame:order>11</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>--325390--</meneame:user>
		<meneame:votes>19</meneame:votes>
		<meneame:karma>172</meneame:karma>
		<meneame:url>https://www.meneame.net/story/demostracion-jiu-jitsu-1919</meneame:url>
		<title>#11 Demostracion de Jiu jitsu de 1919</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/demostracion-jiu-jitsu-1919/c011#c-11</link>
		<pubDate>Sun, 02 Feb 2014 17:28:47 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>--325390--</dc:creator>
		<guid>https://www.meneame.net/story/demostracion-jiu-jitsu-1919/c011#c-11</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[<p>[Usuario deshabilitado]</p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>--325390--</strong></p>]]></description>
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	<item>
		<meneame:comment_id>14219385</meneame:comment_id>
		<meneame:link_id>2108244</meneame:link_id>
		<meneame:order>10</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>wadop1312</meneame:user>
		<meneame:votes>2</meneame:votes>
		<meneame:karma>29</meneame:karma>
		<meneame:url>https://www.meneame.net/story/demostracion-jiu-jitsu-1919</meneame:url>
		<title>#10 Demostracion de Jiu jitsu de 1919</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/demostracion-jiu-jitsu-1919/c010#c-10</link>
		<pubDate>Sun, 02 Feb 2014 16:57:53 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>wadop1312</dc:creator>
		<guid>https://www.meneame.net/story/demostracion-jiu-jitsu-1919/c010#c-10</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[<p><a class="tooltip c:2108244-8" href="https://www.meneame.net/story/demostracion-jiu-jitsu-1919/c08#c-8" rel="nofollow">#8</a> Si la película original estuvo bien conservada y hubo un buen procesamiento digial se puede ver así</p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>wadop1312</strong></p>]]></description>
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	<item>
		<meneame:comment_id>14219356</meneame:comment_id>
		<meneame:link_id>2108244</meneame:link_id>
		<meneame:order>9</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>--210663--</meneame:user>
		<meneame:votes>5</meneame:votes>
		<meneame:karma>64</meneame:karma>
		<meneame:url>https://www.meneame.net/story/demostracion-jiu-jitsu-1919</meneame:url>
		<title>#9 Demostracion de Jiu jitsu de 1919</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/demostracion-jiu-jitsu-1919/c09#c-9</link>
		<pubDate>Sun, 02 Feb 2014 16:48:36 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>--210663--</dc:creator>
		<guid>https://www.meneame.net/story/demostracion-jiu-jitsu-1919/c09#c-9</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[<p><a class="tooltip c:2108244-5" href="https://www.meneame.net/story/demostracion-jiu-jitsu-1919/c05#c-5" rel="nofollow">#5</a>  <i> </i></p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>--210663--</strong></p>]]></description>
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	<item>
		<meneame:comment_id>14218891</meneame:comment_id>
		<meneame:link_id>2108244</meneame:link_id>
		<meneame:order>8</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>Atrydas</meneame:user>
		<meneame:votes>1</meneame:votes>
		<meneame:karma>13</meneame:karma>
		<meneame:url>https://www.meneame.net/story/demostracion-jiu-jitsu-1919</meneame:url>
		<title>#8 Demostracion de Jiu jitsu de 1919</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/demostracion-jiu-jitsu-1919/c08#c-8</link>
		<pubDate>Sun, 02 Feb 2014 15:05:56 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Atrydas</dc:creator>
		<guid>https://www.meneame.net/story/demostracion-jiu-jitsu-1919/c08#c-8</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[<p>Después de menearlo me he dado cuenta de algo... ¿No es un vídeo demasiado definido y fluido como para ser de 1919?</p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>Atrydas</strong></p>]]></description>
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	<item>
		<meneame:comment_id>14218739</meneame:comment_id>
		<meneame:link_id>2108244</meneame:link_id>
		<meneame:order>7</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>Imag0</meneame:user>
		<meneame:votes>4</meneame:votes>
		<meneame:karma>35</meneame:karma>
		<meneame:url>https://www.meneame.net/story/demostracion-jiu-jitsu-1919</meneame:url>
		<title>#7 Demostracion de Jiu jitsu de 1919</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/demostracion-jiu-jitsu-1919/c07#c-7</link>
		<pubDate>Sun, 02 Feb 2014 14:34:09 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Imag0</dc:creator>
		<guid>https://www.meneame.net/story/demostracion-jiu-jitsu-1919/c07#c-7</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[<p>Los hipsters ya no son lo que eran, antes sí que sabían</p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>Imag0</strong></p>]]></description>
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	<item>
		<meneame:comment_id>14218711</meneame:comment_id>
		<meneame:link_id>2108244</meneame:link_id>
		<meneame:order>6</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>mcfgdbbn3</meneame:user>
		<meneame:votes>0</meneame:votes>
		<meneame:karma>10</meneame:karma>
		<meneame:url>https://www.meneame.net/story/demostracion-jiu-jitsu-1919</meneame:url>
		<title>#6 Demostracion de Jiu jitsu de 1919</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/demostracion-jiu-jitsu-1919/c06#c-6</link>
		<pubDate>Sun, 02 Feb 2014 14:29:25 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>mcfgdbbn3</dc:creator>
		<guid>https://www.meneame.net/story/demostracion-jiu-jitsu-1919/c06#c-6</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[<p>Creo que este vídeo inspiró a los agentes de <a href="/search?w=comments&#38;q=%23Matrix&#38;o=date">#Matrix</a>.</p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>mcfgdbbn3</strong></p>]]></description>
	</item>

	<item>
		<meneame:comment_id>14218601</meneame:comment_id>
		<meneame:link_id>2108244</meneame:link_id>
		<meneame:order>5</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>AngryBird</meneame:user>
		<meneame:votes>15</meneame:votes>
		<meneame:karma>156</meneame:karma>
		<meneame:url>https://www.meneame.net/story/demostracion-jiu-jitsu-1919</meneame:url>
		<title>#5 Demostracion de Jiu jitsu de 1919</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/demostracion-jiu-jitsu-1919/c05#c-5</link>
		<pubDate>Sun, 02 Feb 2014 14:02:36 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>AngryBird</dc:creator>
		<guid>https://www.meneame.net/story/demostracion-jiu-jitsu-1919/c05#c-5</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[<p>parece más Aikido que Jiu jitsu.</p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>AngryBird</strong></p>]]></description>
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	<item>
		<meneame:comment_id>14218491</meneame:comment_id>
		<meneame:link_id>2108244</meneame:link_id>
		<meneame:order>4</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>manuelitos</meneame:user>
		<meneame:votes>15</meneame:votes>
		<meneame:karma>129</meneame:karma>
		<meneame:url>https://www.meneame.net/story/demostracion-jiu-jitsu-1919</meneame:url>
		<title>#4 Demostracion de Jiu jitsu de 1919</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/demostracion-jiu-jitsu-1919/c04#c-4</link>
		<pubDate>Sun, 02 Feb 2014 13:38:53 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>manuelitos</dc:creator>
		<guid>https://www.meneame.net/story/demostracion-jiu-jitsu-1919/c04#c-4</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[<p>Pues a mí me ha parecido ver a Putin dándole una paliza a su sobrino.</p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>manuelitos</strong></p>]]></description>
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	<item>
		<meneame:comment_id>14218469</meneame:comment_id>
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		<meneame:order>3</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>Lokodelbajo</meneame:user>
		<meneame:votes>2</meneame:votes>
		<meneame:karma>40</meneame:karma>
		<meneame:url>https://www.meneame.net/story/demostracion-jiu-jitsu-1919</meneame:url>
		<title>#3 Demostracion de Jiu jitsu de 1919</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/demostracion-jiu-jitsu-1919/c03#c-3</link>
		<pubDate>Sun, 02 Feb 2014 13:34:59 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Lokodelbajo</dc:creator>
		<guid>https://www.meneame.net/story/demostracion-jiu-jitsu-1919/c03#c-3</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[<p><a class="tooltip c:2108244-1" href="https://www.meneame.net/story/demostracion-jiu-jitsu-1919/c01#c-1" rel="nofollow">#1</a> Producto de la época.</p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>Lokodelbajo</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<meneame:comment_id>14218462</meneame:comment_id>
		<meneame:link_id>2108244</meneame:link_id>
		<meneame:order>2</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>khanser</meneame:user>
		<meneame:votes>7</meneame:votes>
		<meneame:karma>83</meneame:karma>
		<meneame:url>https://www.meneame.net/story/demostracion-jiu-jitsu-1919</meneame:url>
		<title>#2 Demostracion de Jiu jitsu de 1919</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/demostracion-jiu-jitsu-1919/c02#c-2</link>
		<pubDate>Sun, 02 Feb 2014 13:33:05 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>khanser</dc:creator>
		<guid>https://www.meneame.net/story/demostracion-jiu-jitsu-1919/c02#c-2</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[<p>A mi me ha parecido mas gracioso que parece fake hasta que ves a uno volar por los aires.</p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>khanser</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<meneame:comment_id>14218438</meneame:comment_id>
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		<meneame:order>1</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>wadop1312</meneame:user>
		<meneame:votes>26</meneame:votes>
		<meneame:karma>244</meneame:karma>
		<meneame:url>https://www.meneame.net/story/demostracion-jiu-jitsu-1919</meneame:url>
		<title>#1 Demostracion de Jiu jitsu de 1919</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/demostracion-jiu-jitsu-1919/c01#c-1</link>
		<pubDate>Sun, 02 Feb 2014 13:27:15 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>wadop1312</dc:creator>
		<guid>https://www.meneame.net/story/demostracion-jiu-jitsu-1919/c01#c-1</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[<p>Lo gracioso es ver a los tipos con traje y corbata</p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>wadop1312</strong></p>]]></description>
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