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		<meneame:order>17</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>Chazirí</meneame:user>
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		<meneame:karma>6</meneame:karma>
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		<title>#17 Holanda pretende cobrar 16 euros diarios a los presos</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/holanda-pretende-cobrar-16-euros-diarios-presos/c017#c-17</link>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Jan 2014 17:03:16 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Chazirí</dc:creator>
		<guid>https://www.meneame.net/story/holanda-pretende-cobrar-16-euros-diarios-presos/c017#c-17</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[<p>Yo es que robo para poder estar en la cárcel....</p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>Chazirí</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<meneame:comment_id>14116899</meneame:comment_id>
		<meneame:link_id>2093939</meneame:link_id>
		<meneame:order>16</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>--406307--</meneame:user>
		<meneame:votes>0</meneame:votes>
		<meneame:karma>7</meneame:karma>
		<meneame:url>https://www.meneame.net/story/holanda-pretende-cobrar-16-euros-diarios-presos</meneame:url>
		<title>#16 Holanda pretende cobrar 16 euros diarios a los presos</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/holanda-pretende-cobrar-16-euros-diarios-presos/c016#c-16</link>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Jan 2014 02:27:58 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>--406307--</dc:creator>
		<guid>https://www.meneame.net/story/holanda-pretende-cobrar-16-euros-diarios-presos/c016#c-16</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[<p><a class="tooltip c:2093939-3" href="https://www.meneame.net/story/holanda-pretende-cobrar-16-euros-diarios-presos/c03#c-3" rel="nofollow">#3</a> Coste de un preso anual sobre 25.000€/365 días nos da 68€/día. De los datos que he visto ni uno llega ni a los 80€.Te has pasado un poquillo. <br />
<br />
<a class="tooltip c:2093939-3" href="https://www.meneame.net/story/holanda-pretende-cobrar-16-euros-diarios-presos/c03#c-3" rel="nofollow">#3</a> Si trabajas dentro de la cárcel creo que no llegas si tienes suerte ni al SMI. Además que no hay trabajo para todos.<br />
<br />
Pero oye trabajo para todos, les pueden pagar una miseria y mientras tanto los de fuera con este nivel de paro a dos velas.<br />
<br />
Desayuno, comida y cena. No sé de donde te sacas 5 comídas creo que les daban merienda pero ahora con las crisis o lo han eliminado en algunas comunidades o en todas.</p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>--406307--</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<meneame:comment_id>14116435</meneame:comment_id>
		<meneame:link_id>2093939</meneame:link_id>
		<meneame:order>15</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>dreierfahrer</meneame:user>
		<meneame:votes>0</meneame:votes>
		<meneame:karma>10</meneame:karma>
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		<title>#15 Holanda pretende cobrar 16 euros diarios a los presos</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/holanda-pretende-cobrar-16-euros-diarios-presos/c015#c-15</link>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Jan 2014 23:19:33 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>dreierfahrer</dc:creator>
		<guid>https://www.meneame.net/story/holanda-pretende-cobrar-16-euros-diarios-presos/c015#c-15</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[<p><a class="tooltip c:2093939-14" href="https://www.meneame.net/story/holanda-pretende-cobrar-16-euros-diarios-presos/c014#c-14" rel="nofollow">#14</a> Ya, pero es que ahora mismo el trabajo o el estudio en la carcel no reduce condena... no esta incentivado...<br />
<br />
Ya sabes, lo de siempre: penas as duras, condenas mas duras, blablablablabla...</p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>dreierfahrer</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<meneame:comment_id>14116365</meneame:comment_id>
		<meneame:link_id>2093939</meneame:link_id>
		<meneame:order>14</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>puhoa</meneame:user>
		<meneame:votes>0</meneame:votes>
		<meneame:karma>6</meneame:karma>
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		<title>#14 Holanda pretende cobrar 16 euros diarios a los presos</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/holanda-pretende-cobrar-16-euros-diarios-presos/c014#c-14</link>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Jan 2014 23:02:24 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>puhoa</dc:creator>
		<guid>https://www.meneame.net/story/holanda-pretende-cobrar-16-euros-diarios-presos/c014#c-14</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[<p>Hay que tener cuidado con poner criterios economicistas para todo. Igual resulta que ejecutarlos es más barato. <br />
La privación de libertad es una pena que pretende reinsertar al delincuente, ese debe ser su único objetivo. La educación y el trabajo son buenas herramientas de reinserción, son valiosas en ese sentido, no por el producto de ese trabajo de los reclusos.</p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>puhoa</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<meneame:comment_id>14116265</meneame:comment_id>
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		<meneame:order>13</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>baikonur</meneame:user>
		<meneame:votes>0</meneame:votes>
		<meneame:karma>7</meneame:karma>
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		<title>#13 Holanda pretende cobrar 16 euros diarios a los presos</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/holanda-pretende-cobrar-16-euros-diarios-presos/c013#c-13</link>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Jan 2014 22:38:26 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>baikonur</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[<p>Aquí se cobra en los hospitales el menú de los ingresados y a los niños en los colegios.<br />
Y pocos de estos están por propia voluntad.</p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>baikonur</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<meneame:comment_id>14116243</meneame:comment_id>
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		<meneame:order>12</meneame:order>
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		<meneame:karma>7</meneame:karma>
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		<title>#12 Holanda pretende cobrar 16 euros diarios a los presos</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/holanda-pretende-cobrar-16-euros-diarios-presos/c012#c-12</link>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Jan 2014 22:32:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[<p>[Usuario deshabilitado]</p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>--343064--</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<meneame:comment_id>14116226</meneame:comment_id>
		<meneame:link_id>2093939</meneame:link_id>
		<meneame:order>11</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>--394475--</meneame:user>
		<meneame:votes>2</meneame:votes>
		<meneame:karma>33</meneame:karma>
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		<title>#11 Holanda pretende cobrar 16 euros diarios a los presos</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/holanda-pretende-cobrar-16-euros-diarios-presos/c011#c-11</link>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Jan 2014 22:29:39 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>--394475--</dc:creator>
		<guid>https://www.meneame.net/story/holanda-pretende-cobrar-16-euros-diarios-presos/c011#c-11</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[<p><a class="tooltip c:2093939-3" href="https://www.meneame.net/story/holanda-pretende-cobrar-16-euros-diarios-presos/c03#c-3" rel="nofollow">#3</a> Como osan comer 5 veces al día, si son unos delincuentes...</p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>--394475--</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<meneame:comment_id>14116214</meneame:comment_id>
		<meneame:link_id>2093939</meneame:link_id>
		<meneame:order>10</meneame:order>
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		<meneame:votes>0</meneame:votes>
		<meneame:karma>7</meneame:karma>
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		<title>#10 Holanda pretende cobrar 16 euros diarios a los presos</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/holanda-pretende-cobrar-16-euros-diarios-presos/c010#c-10</link>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Jan 2014 22:27:29 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>--343064--</dc:creator>
		<guid>https://www.meneame.net/story/holanda-pretende-cobrar-16-euros-diarios-presos/c010#c-10</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[<p>[Usuario deshabilitado]</p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>--343064--</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<meneame:comment_id>14116212</meneame:comment_id>
		<meneame:link_id>2093939</meneame:link_id>
		<meneame:order>9</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>P5A5C5M</meneame:user>
		<meneame:votes>0</meneame:votes>
		<meneame:karma>10</meneame:karma>
		<meneame:url>https://www.meneame.net/story/holanda-pretende-cobrar-16-euros-diarios-presos</meneame:url>
		<title>#9 Holanda pretende cobrar 16 euros diarios a los presos</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/holanda-pretende-cobrar-16-euros-diarios-presos/c09#c-9</link>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Jan 2014 22:26:53 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>P5A5C5M</dc:creator>
		<guid>https://www.meneame.net/story/holanda-pretende-cobrar-16-euros-diarios-presos/c09#c-9</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[<p><a class="tooltip c:2093939-3" href="https://www.meneame.net/story/holanda-pretende-cobrar-16-euros-diarios-presos/c03#c-3" rel="nofollow">#3</a> Ya se el motivo por el cual los corruptos salen libres, ya han costado suficiente dinero a la sociedad como para que cuesten 120€ diarios.</p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>P5A5C5M</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<meneame:comment_id>14116196</meneame:comment_id>
		<meneame:link_id>2093939</meneame:link_id>
		<meneame:order>8</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>Uzer</meneame:user>
		<meneame:votes>1</meneame:votes>
		<meneame:karma>20</meneame:karma>
		<meneame:url>https://www.meneame.net/story/holanda-pretende-cobrar-16-euros-diarios-presos</meneame:url>
		<title>#8 Holanda pretende cobrar 16 euros diarios a los presos</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/holanda-pretende-cobrar-16-euros-diarios-presos/c08#c-8</link>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Jan 2014 22:23:24 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Uzer</dc:creator>
		<guid>https://www.meneame.net/story/holanda-pretende-cobrar-16-euros-diarios-presos/c08#c-8</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[<p><a class="tooltip c:2093939-3" href="https://www.meneame.net/story/holanda-pretende-cobrar-16-euros-diarios-presos/c03#c-3" rel="nofollow">#3</a> si es tan guay ¿por que no lías alguna para que te metan? Porque, wow! así como lo pintas, estoy por ir a hacer cola a Alcalá Meco</p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>Uzer</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<meneame:comment_id>14116122</meneame:comment_id>
		<meneame:link_id>2093939</meneame:link_id>
		<meneame:order>7</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>Pancar</meneame:user>
		<meneame:votes>2</meneame:votes>
		<meneame:karma>41</meneame:karma>
		<meneame:url>https://www.meneame.net/story/holanda-pretende-cobrar-16-euros-diarios-presos</meneame:url>
		<title>#7 Holanda pretende cobrar 16 euros diarios a los presos</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/holanda-pretende-cobrar-16-euros-diarios-presos/c07#c-7</link>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Jan 2014 22:03:40 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Pancar</dc:creator>
		<guid>https://www.meneame.net/story/holanda-pretende-cobrar-16-euros-diarios-presos/c07#c-7</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[<p><a class="tooltip c:2093939-6" href="https://www.meneame.net/story/holanda-pretende-cobrar-16-euros-diarios-presos/c06#c-6" rel="nofollow">#6</a> Sigue siendo motivo para obtener beneficios penitenciarios (tercer grado, libertad condicional, etc.), pero la reducción de pena ya no se contempla. Por eso la &#34;doctrina Parot&#34; ya no tiene sentido.</p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>Pancar</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<meneame:comment_id>14116076</meneame:comment_id>
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		<meneame:user>--343064--</meneame:user>
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		<title>#6 Holanda pretende cobrar 16 euros diarios a los presos</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/holanda-pretende-cobrar-16-euros-diarios-presos/c06#c-6</link>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Jan 2014 21:52:16 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>--343064--</dc:creator>
		<guid>https://www.meneame.net/story/holanda-pretende-cobrar-16-euros-diarios-presos/c06#c-6</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[<p>[Usuario deshabilitado]</p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>--343064--</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<meneame:comment_id>14116060</meneame:comment_id>
		<meneame:link_id>2093939</meneame:link_id>
		<meneame:order>5</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>Pancar</meneame:user>
		<meneame:votes>3</meneame:votes>
		<meneame:karma>53</meneame:karma>
		<meneame:url>https://www.meneame.net/story/holanda-pretende-cobrar-16-euros-diarios-presos</meneame:url>
		<title>#5 Holanda pretende cobrar 16 euros diarios a los presos</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/holanda-pretende-cobrar-16-euros-diarios-presos/c05#c-5</link>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Jan 2014 21:48:18 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Pancar</dc:creator>
		<guid>https://www.meneame.net/story/holanda-pretende-cobrar-16-euros-diarios-presos/c05#c-5</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[<p><a class="tooltip c:2093939-3" href="https://www.meneame.net/story/holanda-pretende-cobrar-16-euros-diarios-presos/c03#c-3" rel="nofollow">#3</a> Todo cierto excepto que ya no existen reducciones de pena por estudios o trabajo.</p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>Pancar</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<meneame:comment_id>14116054</meneame:comment_id>
		<meneame:link_id>2093939</meneame:link_id>
		<meneame:order>4</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>pmg1</meneame:user>
		<meneame:votes>2</meneame:votes>
		<meneame:karma>23</meneame:karma>
		<meneame:url>https://www.meneame.net/story/holanda-pretende-cobrar-16-euros-diarios-presos</meneame:url>
		<title>#4 Holanda pretende cobrar 16 euros diarios a los presos</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/holanda-pretende-cobrar-16-euros-diarios-presos/c04#c-4</link>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Jan 2014 21:47:07 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>pmg1</dc:creator>
		<guid>https://www.meneame.net/story/holanda-pretende-cobrar-16-euros-diarios-presos/c04#c-4</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[<p><a class="tooltip c:2093939-3" href="https://www.meneame.net/story/holanda-pretende-cobrar-16-euros-diarios-presos/c03#c-3" rel="nofollow">#3</a> espero que no estés pensando en que la empresas puedan contratar a preso para que realicen el trabajo y así poder despedir a sus trabajadores. Esto sería la panacea para el PP y sus familiares. Ademas siempre podemos construir otra cruz de los caidos.</p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>pmg1</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<meneame:comment_id>14116048</meneame:comment_id>
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		<meneame:order>3</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>--343064--</meneame:user>
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		<meneame:karma>7</meneame:karma>
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		<title>#3 Holanda pretende cobrar 16 euros diarios a los presos</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/holanda-pretende-cobrar-16-euros-diarios-presos/c03#c-3</link>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Jan 2014 21:45:35 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>--343064--</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[<p>[Usuario deshabilitado]</p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>--343064--</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<meneame:comment_id>14116032</meneame:comment_id>
		<meneame:link_id>2093939</meneame:link_id>
		<meneame:order>2</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>esnaucer</meneame:user>
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		<title>#2 Holanda pretende cobrar 16 euros diarios a los presos</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/holanda-pretende-cobrar-16-euros-diarios-presos/c02#c-2</link>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Jan 2014 21:42:05 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>esnaucer</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[<p>Y de donde van a obtener esos 16€?</p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>esnaucer</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<meneame:comment_id>14116024</meneame:comment_id>
		<meneame:link_id>2093939</meneame:link_id>
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		<meneame:user>--396026--</meneame:user>
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		<meneame:karma>99</meneame:karma>
		<meneame:url>https://www.meneame.net/story/holanda-pretende-cobrar-16-euros-diarios-presos</meneame:url>
		<title>#1 Holanda pretende cobrar 16 euros diarios a los presos</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/holanda-pretende-cobrar-16-euros-diarios-presos/c01#c-1</link>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Jan 2014 21:40:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[<p>¿Si te declaras insolvente te meterán en la cárcel?</p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>--396026--</strong></p>]]></description>
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