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		<meneame:order>26</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>Rhymenoceros</meneame:user>
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		<title>#26 El desmochado, o como someter a la nobleza</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/desmochado-como-someter-nobleza/c026#c-26</link>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Oct 2013 13:54:39 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Rhymenoceros</dc:creator>
		<guid>https://www.meneame.net/story/desmochado-como-someter-nobleza/c026#c-26</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[<p><a class="tooltip c:2042613-25" href="https://www.meneame.net/story/desmochado-como-someter-nobleza/c025#c-25" rel="nofollow">#25</a> Si buscas &#34;motz&#34; en el texto lo encontrarás. La web que citas también la encontré, pero me inclino mas por <br />
<a href="http://www.euskaltzaindia.org/dok/euskera/56083.pdf" title="www.euskaltzaindia.org/dok/euskera/56083.pdf" rel="nofollow">www.euskaltzaindia.org/dok/euskera/56083.pdf</a><br />
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La palabra es mucho mas cercana, y según la RAE, el origen es desconocido, otros enlaces:<br />
<a href="http://www.celtiberia.net/articulo.asp?id=3152" title="www.celtiberia.net/articulo.asp?id=3152" rel="nofollow">www.celtiberia.net/articulo.asp?id=3152</a> <br />
<a href="http://www.ancin-antzin.org/_recursos/doc/documentos/Diccionario Etimológico de Ancín.pdf" title="www.ancin-antzin.org/_recursos/doc/documentos/Diccionario Etimológico de Ancín.pdf" rel="nofollow">www.ancin-antzin.org/_recursos/doc/documentos/Diccionario Etimológico</a><br />
<a href="http://195.251.251.185/michalis/fplaborda/Izarbeibarko_hiztegia.pdf" title="195.251.251.185/michalis/fplaborda/Izarbeibarko_hiztegia.pdf" rel="nofollow">195.251.251.185/michalis/fplaborda/Izarbeibarko_hiztegia.pdf</a></p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>Rhymenoceros</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<meneame:comment_id>13743780</meneame:comment_id>
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		<meneame:user>--358411--</meneame:user>
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		<title>#25 El desmochado, o como someter a la nobleza</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/desmochado-como-someter-nobleza/c025#c-25</link>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Oct 2013 13:25:41 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>--358411--</dc:creator>
		<guid>https://www.meneame.net/story/desmochado-como-someter-nobleza/c025#c-25</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[<p><a class="tooltip c:2042613-22" href="https://www.meneame.net/story/desmochado-como-someter-nobleza/c022#c-22" rel="nofollow">#22</a> <a href="http://etimologias.dechile.net/?mocho" title="etimologias.dechile.net/?mocho" rel="nofollow">etimologias.dechile.net/?mocho</a></p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>--358411--</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<meneame:comment_id>13743755</meneame:comment_id>
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		<meneame:order>24</meneame:order>
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		<title>#24 El desmochado, o como someter a la nobleza</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/desmochado-como-someter-nobleza/c024#c-24</link>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Oct 2013 13:21:21 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>--358411--</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[<p><a class="tooltip c:2042613-23" href="https://www.meneame.net/story/desmochado-como-someter-nobleza/c023#c-23" rel="nofollow">#23</a> Tb se solía decir&#34; vamos a mochar&#34;.</p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>--358411--</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<meneame:comment_id>13742210</meneame:comment_id>
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		<meneame:order>23</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>azenbugranto</meneame:user>
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		<title>#23 El desmochado, o como someter a la nobleza</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/desmochado-como-someter-nobleza/c023#c-23</link>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Oct 2013 10:07:55 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>azenbugranto</dc:creator>
		<guid>https://www.meneame.net/story/desmochado-como-someter-nobleza/c023#c-23</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[<p><a class="tooltip c:2042613-22" href="https://www.meneame.net/story/desmochado-como-someter-nobleza/c022#c-22" rel="nofollow">#22</a> Mis amigos giputxis llaman &#34;mocho&#34; al canuto. Y estar &#34;transmocho&#34; es... es fácil de imaginar <img data-src="https://cdn.mnmstatic.net/v_149/img/menemojis/36/wink.png" alt=";)" title=";)" width="18" height="18" src="https://cdn.mnmstatic.net/v_149/img/g.gif" class="emoji lazy" /></p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>azenbugranto</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<meneame:comment_id>13741900</meneame:comment_id>
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		<meneame:order>22</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>Rhymenoceros</meneame:user>
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		<meneame:url>https://www.meneame.net/story/desmochado-como-someter-nobleza</meneame:url>
		<title>#22 El desmochado, o como someter a la nobleza</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/desmochado-como-someter-nobleza/c022#c-22</link>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Oct 2013 09:19:23 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Rhymenoceros</dc:creator>
		<guid>https://www.meneame.net/story/desmochado-como-someter-nobleza/c022#c-22</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[<p><a class="tooltip c:2042613-2" href="https://www.meneame.net/story/desmochado-como-someter-nobleza/c02#c-2" rel="nofollow">#2</a> De hecho creo que la palabra mocho viene del euskera <b>motz</b>, corto o chato.</p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>Rhymenoceros</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<meneame:comment_id>13741729</meneame:comment_id>
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		<meneame:order>21</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>Wayfarer</meneame:user>
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		<meneame:karma>18</meneame:karma>
		<meneame:url>https://www.meneame.net/story/desmochado-como-someter-nobleza</meneame:url>
		<title>#21 El desmochado, o como someter a la nobleza</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/desmochado-como-someter-nobleza/c021#c-21</link>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Oct 2013 08:54:29 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Wayfarer</dc:creator>
		<guid>https://www.meneame.net/story/desmochado-como-someter-nobleza/c021#c-21</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[<p><i>¿Quién es el guapo que se pasea por el adarve mientras los ballesteros enemigos lo abrasan a virotazos?</i><br />
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Sólo por esa frase ya merece la pena el meneo <img data-src="https://cdn.mnmstatic.net/v_149/img/menemojis/36/grin.png" alt=":-D" title=":-D" width="18" height="18" src="https://cdn.mnmstatic.net/v_149/img/g.gif" class="emoji lazy" /></p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>Wayfarer</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<meneame:comment_id>13741450</meneame:comment_id>
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		<meneame:order>20</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>mciutti</meneame:user>
		<meneame:votes>4</meneame:votes>
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		<meneame:url>https://www.meneame.net/story/desmochado-como-someter-nobleza</meneame:url>
		<title>#20 El desmochado, o como someter a la nobleza</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/desmochado-como-someter-nobleza/c020#c-20</link>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Oct 2013 08:13:19 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>mciutti</dc:creator>
		<guid>https://www.meneame.net/story/desmochado-como-someter-nobleza/c020#c-20</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[<p><a class="tooltip c:2042613-6" href="https://www.meneame.net/story/desmochado-como-someter-nobleza/c06#c-6" rel="nofollow">#6</a> <a class="tooltip c:2042613-19" href="https://www.meneame.net/story/desmochado-como-someter-nobleza/c019#c-19" rel="nofollow">#19</a>: La destrucción total tiene dos inconvenientes grandes. Por una parte solamente podría ser llevada a cabo por reyes que se sintieran muy seguros en su trono pues se arriesgaban a que los nobles, viendo las barbas del vecino pelar, se cagaran en las calzas y en contra de su costumbre hicieran causa común para defenderse. Por otra parte ¿por qué destruir totalmente una fortaleza si podemos dejarla indefendible y, en caso necesario volver a tenerla operativa con una obra relativamente sencilla?</p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>mciutti</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<meneame:comment_id>13741304</meneame:comment_id>
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		<meneame:order>19</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>adot</meneame:user>
		<meneame:votes>2</meneame:votes>
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		<meneame:url>https://www.meneame.net/story/desmochado-como-someter-nobleza</meneame:url>
		<title>#19 El desmochado, o como someter a la nobleza</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/desmochado-como-someter-nobleza/c019#c-19</link>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Oct 2013 07:49:21 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>adot</dc:creator>
		<guid>https://www.meneame.net/story/desmochado-como-someter-nobleza/c019#c-19</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[<p><a class="tooltip c:2042613-18" href="https://www.meneame.net/story/desmochado-como-someter-nobleza/c018#c-18" rel="nofollow">#18</a> No creo que la intención de los que querían someter a la nobleza, ya fuera a través del desmochado o de la destrucción de las fortalezas, fuera que hoy pudiéramos admirar esos castillos. Evidentemente para mi sería mejor poder hacerlo pero para esa gente la destrucción era el mejor método sin duda.</p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>adot</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<meneame:comment_id>13741279</meneame:comment_id>
		<meneame:link_id>2042613</meneame:link_id>
		<meneame:order>18</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>joseac</meneame:user>
		<meneame:votes>1</meneame:votes>
		<meneame:karma>1</meneame:karma>
		<meneame:url>https://www.meneame.net/story/desmochado-como-someter-nobleza</meneame:url>
		<title>#18 El desmochado, o como someter a la nobleza</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/desmochado-como-someter-nobleza/c018#c-18</link>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Oct 2013 07:45:03 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>joseac</dc:creator>
		<guid>https://www.meneame.net/story/desmochado-como-someter-nobleza/c018#c-18</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[<p><a class="tooltip c:2042613-6" href="https://www.meneame.net/story/desmochado-como-someter-nobleza/c06#c-6" rel="nofollow">#6</a> ¿como que la mejor forma? si no se hubiesen destruido totalmente se podría admirar mejor hoy día.</p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>joseac</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<meneame:comment_id>13741098</meneame:comment_id>
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		<meneame:order>17</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>edojos</meneame:user>
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		<meneame:karma>9</meneame:karma>
		<meneame:url>https://www.meneame.net/story/desmochado-como-someter-nobleza</meneame:url>
		<title>#17 El desmochado, o como someter a la nobleza</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/desmochado-como-someter-nobleza/c017#c-17</link>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Oct 2013 07:10:47 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>edojos</dc:creator>
		<guid>https://www.meneame.net/story/desmochado-como-someter-nobleza/c017#c-17</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[<p>Y unos cuantos pueblos que se llaman Torremocha. Como por ejemplo Torremocha del Jiloca en Teruel.</p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>edojos</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<meneame:comment_id>13741059</meneame:comment_id>
		<meneame:link_id>2042613</meneame:link_id>
		<meneame:order>16</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>sieteymedio</meneame:user>
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		<meneame:url>https://www.meneame.net/story/desmochado-como-someter-nobleza</meneame:url>
		<title>#16 El desmochado, o como someter a la nobleza</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/desmochado-como-someter-nobleza/c016#c-16</link>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Oct 2013 07:01:17 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>sieteymedio</dc:creator>
		<guid>https://www.meneame.net/story/desmochado-como-someter-nobleza/c016#c-16</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[<p>Ya me extrañaba a mí eso de &#34;someter a la nobleza&#34;. Pensaba que era el pueblo el que tenía un truqui para someter a la nobleza, pero no, que era el rey. Lo de siempre.<br />
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<a class="tooltip c:2042613-12" href="https://www.meneame.net/story/desmochado-como-someter-nobleza/c012#c-12" rel="nofollow">#12</a> Cansiiiiiino</p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>sieteymedio</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<meneame:comment_id>13740873</meneame:comment_id>
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		<meneame:order>15</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>iramosjan</meneame:user>
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		<meneame:karma>28</meneame:karma>
		<meneame:url>https://www.meneame.net/story/desmochado-como-someter-nobleza</meneame:url>
		<title>#15 El desmochado, o como someter a la nobleza</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/desmochado-como-someter-nobleza/c015#c-15</link>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Oct 2013 05:42:41 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>iramosjan</dc:creator>
		<guid>https://www.meneame.net/story/desmochado-como-someter-nobleza/c015#c-15</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[<p>Continuando <a class="tooltip c:2042613-13" href="https://www.meneame.net/story/desmochado-como-someter-nobleza/c013#c-13" rel="nofollow">#13</a><br />
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Aquí enlazo a una página donde han reproducido con Exin castillos una torre desmochada del castillo de La Mota, en Benavente<br />
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<a href="http://www.exincastillos.es/foro/categoria-exin-castillos-3-premio-t2641.html" title="www.exincastillos.es/foro/categoria-exin-castillos-3-premio-t2641.html" rel="nofollow">www.exincastillos.es/foro/categoria-exin-castillos-3-premio-t2641.html</a></p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>iramosjan</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<meneame:comment_id>13740870</meneame:comment_id>
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		<meneame:user>salteado3</meneame:user>
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		<meneame:karma>13</meneame:karma>
		<meneame:url>https://www.meneame.net/story/desmochado-como-someter-nobleza</meneame:url>
		<title>#14 El desmochado, o como someter a la nobleza</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/desmochado-como-someter-nobleza/c014#c-14</link>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Oct 2013 05:41:30 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>salteado3</dc:creator>
		<guid>https://www.meneame.net/story/desmochado-como-someter-nobleza/c014#c-14</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[<p>blog.lengua-e.com/2012/como-y-como/</p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>salteado3</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<meneame:comment_id>13740851</meneame:comment_id>
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		<meneame:order>13</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>iramosjan</meneame:user>
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		<meneame:url>https://www.meneame.net/story/desmochado-como-someter-nobleza</meneame:url>
		<title>#13 El desmochado, o como someter a la nobleza</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/desmochado-como-someter-nobleza/c013#c-13</link>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Oct 2013 05:25:27 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>iramosjan</dc:creator>
		<guid>https://www.meneame.net/story/desmochado-como-someter-nobleza/c013#c-13</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[<p><a class="tooltip c:2042613-11" href="https://www.meneame.net/story/desmochado-como-someter-nobleza/c011#c-11" rel="nofollow">#11</a> Claro que se podía. Yo tenía un tambor de Colón lleno de Exin Castillos (supongo que eso es una doble confesión de edad madurita) y el remate de las torres, parapeto de las murallas, etc, eran piezas separadas. El desmochado era sencillísmo; el desmantelado... eso ya habría sido otra cosa.<br />
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Vease una imagen que acabo de buscar en la red (Nota: ¡llevaba fantasmas! Me había olvidado de ese detalle <img data-src="https://cdn.mnmstatic.net/v_149/img/menemojis/36/grin.png" alt=":-D" title=":-D" width="18" height="18" src="https://cdn.mnmstatic.net/v_149/img/g.gif" class="emoji lazy" /> )</p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>iramosjan</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<meneame:user>--307182--</meneame:user>
		<meneame:votes>2</meneame:votes>
		<meneame:karma>2</meneame:karma>
		<meneame:url>https://www.meneame.net/story/desmochado-como-someter-nobleza</meneame:url>
		<title>#12 El desmochado, o como someter a la nobleza</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/desmochado-como-someter-nobleza/c012#c-12</link>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Oct 2013 04:31:07 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>--307182--</dc:creator>
		<guid>https://www.meneame.net/story/desmochado-como-someter-nobleza/c012#c-12</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[<p>¿Cómo desmochamos a los políticos?</p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>--307182--</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<meneame:comment_id>13740737</meneame:comment_id>
		<meneame:link_id>2042613</meneame:link_id>
		<meneame:order>11</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>--234048--</meneame:user>
		<meneame:votes>3</meneame:votes>
		<meneame:karma>33</meneame:karma>
		<meneame:url>https://www.meneame.net/story/desmochado-como-someter-nobleza</meneame:url>
		<title>#11 El desmochado, o como someter a la nobleza</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/desmochado-como-someter-nobleza/c011#c-11</link>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Oct 2013 01:01:29 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>--234048--</dc:creator>
		<guid>https://www.meneame.net/story/desmochado-como-someter-nobleza/c011#c-11</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[<p>[Usuario deshabilitado]</p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>--234048--</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<meneame:comment_id>13740627</meneame:comment_id>
		<meneame:link_id>2042613</meneame:link_id>
		<meneame:order>10</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>Jaski</meneame:user>
		<meneame:votes>5</meneame:votes>
		<meneame:karma>53</meneame:karma>
		<meneame:url>https://www.meneame.net/story/desmochado-como-someter-nobleza</meneame:url>
		<title>#10 El desmochado, o como someter a la nobleza</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/desmochado-como-someter-nobleza/c010#c-10</link>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Oct 2013 23:40:10 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Jaski</dc:creator>
		<guid>https://www.meneame.net/story/desmochado-como-someter-nobleza/c010#c-10</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[<p><a class="tooltip c:2042613-6" href="https://www.meneame.net/story/desmochado-como-someter-nobleza/c06#c-6" rel="nofollow">#6</a> totalmente de acuerdo, los gallegos históricamente somos bastante dóciles y sumisos; pero cuando se lía, se lía bien. Lo malo de esa revuelta fue que cargarse a la aristocracia local para lo único que valió fue para que fuese sustituída por nobleza castellana, de ahí que las clases altas en Galicia históricamente siempre fueses españolistas, a diferencia que en Cataluña.</p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>Jaski</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<meneame:comment_id>13740536</meneame:comment_id>
		<meneame:link_id>2042613</meneame:link_id>
		<meneame:order>9</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>Rwini</meneame:user>
		<meneame:votes>6</meneame:votes>
		<meneame:karma>62</meneame:karma>
		<meneame:url>https://www.meneame.net/story/desmochado-como-someter-nobleza</meneame:url>
		<title>#9 El desmochado, o como someter a la nobleza</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/desmochado-como-someter-nobleza/c09#c-9</link>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Oct 2013 22:58:56 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Rwini</dc:creator>
		<guid>https://www.meneame.net/story/desmochado-como-someter-nobleza/c09#c-9</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[<p>Según he leído el título he pensado en mi ciudad(Cáceres) y evidentemente habla de ello y es que es algo que me llevan contando cada vez que nos llevaban con el colegio a la parte antigua. Por cierto hay una torre que se libró, la de los Cáceres-Ovando o Torre de las Cigüeñas</p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>Rwini</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<meneame:comment_id>13740460</meneame:comment_id>
		<meneame:link_id>2042613</meneame:link_id>
		<meneame:order>8</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>fernier</meneame:user>
		<meneame:votes>3</meneame:votes>
		<meneame:karma>37</meneame:karma>
		<meneame:url>https://www.meneame.net/story/desmochado-como-someter-nobleza</meneame:url>
		<title>#8 El desmochado, o como someter a la nobleza</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/desmochado-como-someter-nobleza/c08#c-8</link>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Oct 2013 22:36:23 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>fernier</dc:creator>
		<guid>https://www.meneame.net/story/desmochado-como-someter-nobleza/c08#c-8</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[<p><a class="tooltip c:2042613-3" href="https://www.meneame.net/story/desmochado-como-someter-nobleza/c03#c-3" rel="nofollow">#3</a> <a href="http://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Castromocho" title="es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Castromocho" rel="nofollow">es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Castromocho</a></p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>fernier</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<meneame:comment_id>13740348</meneame:comment_id>
		<meneame:link_id>2042613</meneame:link_id>
		<meneame:order>7</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>lesbiano</meneame:user>
		<meneame:votes>3</meneame:votes>
		<meneame:karma>47</meneame:karma>
		<meneame:url>https://www.meneame.net/story/desmochado-como-someter-nobleza</meneame:url>
		<title>#7 El desmochado, o como someter a la nobleza</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/desmochado-como-someter-nobleza/c07#c-7</link>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Oct 2013 21:56:54 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>lesbiano</dc:creator>
		<guid>https://www.meneame.net/story/desmochado-como-someter-nobleza/c07#c-7</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[<p>Genial la entrada. Y más corta que otras veces. Recomiendo lectura.</p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>lesbiano</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<meneame:comment_id>13740347</meneame:comment_id>
		<meneame:link_id>2042613</meneame:link_id>
		<meneame:order>6</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>adot</meneame:user>
		<meneame:votes>5</meneame:votes>
		<meneame:karma>52</meneame:karma>
		<meneame:url>https://www.meneame.net/story/desmochado-como-someter-nobleza</meneame:url>
		<title>#6 El desmochado, o como someter a la nobleza</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/desmochado-como-someter-nobleza/c06#c-6</link>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Oct 2013 21:56:33 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>adot</dc:creator>
		<guid>https://www.meneame.net/story/desmochado-como-someter-nobleza/c06#c-6</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[<p>La mejor forma fue la que usaron los irmandiños, destrucción de todas las fortalezas y casas fuertes. <a href="https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/gl/thumb/e/e4/Castelo_da_rocha_forte_Torreón_e_muro_oeste.JPG/450px-Castelo_da_rocha_forte_Torreón_e_muro_oeste.JPG" title="upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/gl/thumb/e/e4/Castelo_da_rocha_forte_Torreón_e_muro_oeste.JPG/450px-Castelo_da_rocha_forte_Torreón_e_muro_oeste.JPG" rel="nofollow">upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/gl/thumb/e/e4/Castelo_da_rocha_forte_To</a></p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>adot</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<meneame:comment_id>13740303</meneame:comment_id>
		<meneame:link_id>2042613</meneame:link_id>
		<meneame:order>5</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>BundesPolizei</meneame:user>
		<meneame:votes>22</meneame:votes>
		<meneame:karma>199</meneame:karma>
		<meneame:url>https://www.meneame.net/story/desmochado-como-someter-nobleza</meneame:url>
		<title>#5 El desmochado, o como someter a la nobleza</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/desmochado-como-someter-nobleza/c05#c-5</link>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Oct 2013 21:44:43 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>BundesPolizei</dc:creator>
		<guid>https://www.meneame.net/story/desmochado-como-someter-nobleza/c05#c-5</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[<p>Muy interesante y gran estrategia para mutilar las resistencias. De este modo, te evitas que lancen aceite hirviendo a tus Ents, tropas especialistas en derribar murallas, pero que arden muy facilmente</p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>BundesPolizei</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<meneame:comment_id>13740294</meneame:comment_id>
		<meneame:link_id>2042613</meneame:link_id>
		<meneame:order>4</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>--365555--</meneame:user>
		<meneame:votes>3</meneame:votes>
		<meneame:karma>35</meneame:karma>
		<meneame:url>https://www.meneame.net/story/desmochado-como-someter-nobleza</meneame:url>
		<title>#4 El desmochado, o como someter a la nobleza</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/desmochado-como-someter-nobleza/c04#c-4</link>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Oct 2013 21:42:17 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>--365555--</dc:creator>
		<guid>https://www.meneame.net/story/desmochado-como-someter-nobleza/c04#c-4</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[<p>Y si te ponías chulo te desmochaban, además del castillo, la cabeza. No se andaban con chorradas en aquella época</p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>--365555--</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<meneame:comment_id>13740289</meneame:comment_id>
		<meneame:link_id>2042613</meneame:link_id>
		<meneame:order>3</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>calvo</meneame:user>
		<meneame:votes>2</meneame:votes>
		<meneame:karma>32</meneame:karma>
		<meneame:url>https://www.meneame.net/story/desmochado-como-someter-nobleza</meneame:url>
		<title>#3 El desmochado, o como someter a la nobleza</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/desmochado-como-someter-nobleza/c03#c-3</link>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Oct 2013 21:40:41 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>calvo</dc:creator>
		<guid>https://www.meneame.net/story/desmochado-como-someter-nobleza/c03#c-3</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Torremocha_(Cáceres)" title="es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Torremocha_(Cáceres)" rel="nofollow">es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Torremocha_(Cáceres)</a><br />
<a href="https://maps.google.fr/maps?q=torremocha+de+caceres&#38;ie=UTF-8&#38;hq=&#38;hnear=0xd15c5bf8214539b:0x6e53d8e656602164,Torremocha,+Cáceres,+Spain&#38;gl=fr&#38;ei=_0FoUvSYOumf0QWiwYDQAQ&#38;ved=0CJUBELYD" title="maps.google.fr/maps?q=torremocha+de+caceres&#38;ie=UTF-8&#38;hq=&#38;hnear=0xd15c5bf8214539b:0x6e53d8e656602164,Torremocha,+Cáceres,+Spain&#38;gl=fr&#38;ei=_0FoUvSYOumf0QWiwYDQAQ&#38;ved=0CJUBELYD" rel="nofollow">maps.google.fr/maps?q=torremocha+de+caceres&#38;ie=UTF-8&#38;hq=&#38;h</a></p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>calvo</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<meneame:comment_id>13740223</meneame:comment_id>
		<meneame:link_id>2042613</meneame:link_id>
		<meneame:order>2</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>--214483--</meneame:user>
		<meneame:votes>4</meneame:votes>
		<meneame:karma>49</meneame:karma>
		<meneame:url>https://www.meneame.net/story/desmochado-como-someter-nobleza</meneame:url>
		<title>#2 El desmochado, o como someter a la nobleza</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/desmochado-como-someter-nobleza/c02#c-2</link>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Oct 2013 21:23:37 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>--214483--</dc:creator>
		<guid>https://www.meneame.net/story/desmochado-como-someter-nobleza/c02#c-2</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[<p>[Usuario deshabilitado]</p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>--214483--</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<meneame:comment_id>13740119</meneame:comment_id>
		<meneame:link_id>2042613</meneame:link_id>
		<meneame:order>1</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>--385931--</meneame:user>
		<meneame:votes>2</meneame:votes>
		<meneame:karma>17</meneame:karma>
		<meneame:url>https://www.meneame.net/story/desmochado-como-someter-nobleza</meneame:url>
		<title>#1 El desmochado, o como someter a la nobleza</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/desmochado-como-someter-nobleza/c01#c-1</link>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Oct 2013 20:48:32 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>--385931--</dc:creator>
		<guid>https://www.meneame.net/story/desmochado-como-someter-nobleza/c01#c-1</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[<p>Curioso rajar las torres verticalmente <img data-src="https://cdn.mnmstatic.net/v_149/img/menemojis/36/tongue.png" alt=":-P" title=":-P" width="18" height="18" src="https://cdn.mnmstatic.net/v_149/img/g.gif" class="emoji lazy" /></p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>--385931--</strong></p>]]></description>
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