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		<meneame:comment_id>758601</meneame:comment_id>
		<meneame:link_id>173934</meneame:link_id>
		<meneame:order>38</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>--19--</meneame:user>
		<meneame:votes>0</meneame:votes>
		<meneame:karma>7</meneame:karma>
		<meneame:url>https://www.meneame.net/story/2020-la-luna-2036-marte</meneame:url>
		<title>#38 2020, la Luna; 2036, Marte</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/2020-la-luna-2036-marte/c038#c-38</link>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Jul 2007 13:04:48 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>--19--</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[<p><a class="tooltip c:173934-36" href="https://www.meneame.net/story/2020-la-luna-2036-marte/c036#c-36" rel="nofollow">#36</a> No, 250.000 norteamericanos, un millón de españoles indocumentados limpiando sus culos por 4 duros y muriendo a miles por esconderse en cabinas de carga sin soporte vital... y 1500 millones de chinos x D.</p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>--19--</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<meneame:comment_id>756049</meneame:comment_id>
		<meneame:link_id>173934</meneame:link_id>
		<meneame:order>37</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>maya2012</meneame:user>
		<meneame:votes>1</meneame:votes>
		<meneame:karma>12</meneame:karma>
		<meneame:url>https://www.meneame.net/story/2020-la-luna-2036-marte</meneame:url>
		<title>#37 2020, la Luna; 2036, Marte</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/2020-la-luna-2036-marte/c037#c-37</link>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Jul 2007 16:08:53 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>maya2012</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[<p>Si hay que joderse, se joderá, y encima por no haberlo hecho esto antes de 2095-2020 = 75 años atrás.<br />
<br />
Si hubieramos adelantado y esforzado la inversión hace 75 años, entonces ya tendríamos colonias que no son de alquiler, y podríamos utilizarlas para especular inmobiliariamente.<br />
<br />
¡¡¡no construyan más casas!!!¡¡¡construyan más naves espaciales ya!!!</p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>maya2012</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<meneame:comment_id>756030</meneame:comment_id>
		<meneame:link_id>173934</meneame:link_id>
		<meneame:order>36</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>maya2012</meneame:user>
		<meneame:votes>1</meneame:votes>
		<meneame:karma>12</meneame:karma>
		<meneame:url>https://www.meneame.net/story/2020-la-luna-2036-marte</meneame:url>
		<title>#36 2020, la Luna; 2036, Marte</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/2020-la-luna-2036-marte/c036#c-36</link>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Jul 2007 16:01:43 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>maya2012</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[<p>El trabajo de los españoles consistirá en limpiar los culos de los norteamericanos a cambio de nada.<br />
<br />
Los españoles no saben construir naves espaciales, y en vez de construirlas se dedican a abandonarlas apoyando a los norteamericanos por la estupidez de las autoridades del gobierno a no querer invertir nada nacional a cambio de unos bonos de intereses norteamericanos.<br />
<br />
Por cierto, los norteamericanos tendrán hábitat extraterrestre desde 2020, mientras que los españoles no lo tendrán hasta 2095, desde entonces, habitarán en alquiler porque todo extraterrestre es propiedad de los norteamericanos.<br />
<br />
Así será la población extraterrestre en 2095, 250.000 norteamericanos en colonias y 10 españoles en 1 colonia alquilada.</p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>maya2012</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<meneame:comment_id>755850</meneame:comment_id>
		<meneame:link_id>173934</meneame:link_id>
		<meneame:order>35</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>--19--</meneame:user>
		<meneame:votes>1</meneame:votes>
		<meneame:karma>14</meneame:karma>
		<meneame:url>https://www.meneame.net/story/2020-la-luna-2036-marte</meneame:url>
		<title>#35 2020, la Luna; 2036, Marte</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/2020-la-luna-2036-marte/c035#c-35</link>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Jul 2007 14:57:55 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>--19--</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[<p><a class="tooltip c:173934-34" href="https://www.meneame.net/story/2020-la-luna-2036-marte/c034#c-34" rel="nofollow">#34</a> <br />
[...]<br />
La tecnología, especialmente la ingeniería aeroespacial y la comunicación electrónica, avanzaron mucho durante este periodo. Sin embargo, los efectos de la carrera espacial se extendieron más allá de la cohetería, la física y la astronomía. La &#34;tecnología de la era espacial&#34; llegó a alcanzó campos tan diversos como la economía familiar y de consumo y los estudios de defoliación forestal,<br />
[...]<br />
aplicaciones adaptadas a áreas que van desde la cocina al atletismo. Los alimentos desecados y precocinados, la ropa que permanece seca e incluso las gafas de esquí antiniebla tienen sus raíces en la ciencia espacial.<br />
[...]<br />
Hoy orbitan la Tierra más de mil satélites artificiales, retransmitiendo comunicaciones alrededor del planeta y facilitando la medición de datos sobre el clima, la vegetación y los movimientos humanos a los países que los utilizan. Además, gran parte de la microtecnología que mueve las actividades diarias, desde la medición de la hora a escuchar música están derivadas de la investigación iniciada con la carrera espacial.<br />
<br />
Sacado de la wikipedia, aunque se puede ampliar bastante más. Y hay cosas más sutiles colaterales, como un gran avance en la informática ya que meter un ordenador de la época en una mierda de cabina no es fácil (la microtecnología de la que habla), y ejemplos así, a patadas.<br />
<br />
Las cosas no son tan sencillas como tu las ves. No es sólo meter un asiento en una caja encima de un cohete, tirar tropocientosmilmillones a la basura y meter una banderita allí arriba.<br />
<br />
Y ahora me saltará alguien &#34;¡Ah vale! la carrera espacial nos ha dado gafas de esquiar y dodotis uooo uoooo&#34;. Intentaré ser educado y no enviarlo a la mierda <img data-src="https://cdn.mnmstatic.net/v_149/img/menemojis/36/smiley.png" alt=":-)" title=":-)" width="18" height="18" src="https://cdn.mnmstatic.net/v_149/img/g.gif" class="emoji lazy" /></p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>--19--</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<meneame:comment_id>755553</meneame:comment_id>
		<meneame:link_id>173934</meneame:link_id>
		<meneame:order>34</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>janderklander</meneame:user>
		<meneame:votes>0</meneame:votes>
		<meneame:karma>6</meneame:karma>
		<meneame:url>https://www.meneame.net/story/2020-la-luna-2036-marte</meneame:url>
		<title>#34 2020, la Luna; 2036, Marte</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/2020-la-luna-2036-marte/c034#c-34</link>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Jul 2007 13:36:00 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>janderklander</dc:creator>
		<guid>https://www.meneame.net/story/2020-la-luna-2036-marte/c034#c-34</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[<p><a class="tooltip c:173934-25" href="https://www.meneame.net/story/2020-la-luna-2036-marte/c025#c-25" rel="nofollow">#25</a> por 25 pesetas, nombre aportaciones de los viajes espaciales a la humanidad como, por ejemplo, el bolígrafo que escribe con gravedad cero. Un dos tres responda otra vez...</p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>janderklander</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<meneame:comment_id>755414</meneame:comment_id>
		<meneame:link_id>173934</meneame:link_id>
		<meneame:order>33</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>catala99</meneame:user>
		<meneame:votes>0</meneame:votes>
		<meneame:karma>6</meneame:karma>
		<meneame:url>https://www.meneame.net/story/2020-la-luna-2036-marte</meneame:url>
		<title>#33 2020, la Luna; 2036, Marte</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/2020-la-luna-2036-marte/c033#c-33</link>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Jul 2007 12:42:21 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>catala99</dc:creator>
		<guid>https://www.meneame.net/story/2020-la-luna-2036-marte/c033#c-33</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[<p>Se nota que se acercan las elecciones en EEUU. Dentro de unas semanas anunciaran planes gubernamentales para que los coches vayan con hidrógeno..... para el 2020! ;-)))<br />
Porqué no algo mas pequeño pero para el mes que viene?</p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>catala99</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<meneame:comment_id>755398</meneame:comment_id>
		<meneame:link_id>173934</meneame:link_id>
		<meneame:order>32</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>mystico</meneame:user>
		<meneame:votes>0</meneame:votes>
		<meneame:karma>9</meneame:karma>
		<meneame:url>https://www.meneame.net/story/2020-la-luna-2036-marte</meneame:url>
		<title>#32 2020, la Luna; 2036, Marte</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/2020-la-luna-2036-marte/c032#c-32</link>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Jul 2007 12:38:14 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>mystico</dc:creator>
		<guid>https://www.meneame.net/story/2020-la-luna-2036-marte/c032#c-32</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[<p><a class="tooltip c:173934-29" href="https://www.meneame.net/story/2020-la-luna-2036-marte/c029#c-29" rel="nofollow">#29</a>  ¿Y tú te crees que Colón realmente estuvo en América???<br />
<br />
Los dibujos que he visto del descubrimiento no me convencen para nada  <img data-src="https://cdn.mnmstatic.net/v_149/img/menemojis/36/roll.gif" alt=":roll:" title=":roll:" width="18" height="18" src="https://cdn.mnmstatic.net/v_149/img/g.gif" class="emoji lazy" /></p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>mystico</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<meneame:comment_id>754135</meneame:comment_id>
		<meneame:link_id>173934</meneame:link_id>
		<meneame:order>31</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>Cyberlarry</meneame:user>
		<meneame:votes>0</meneame:votes>
		<meneame:karma>6</meneame:karma>
		<meneame:url>https://www.meneame.net/story/2020-la-luna-2036-marte</meneame:url>
		<title>#31 2020, la Luna; 2036, Marte</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/2020-la-luna-2036-marte/c031#c-31</link>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Jul 2007 02:11:21 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Cyberlarry</dc:creator>
		<guid>https://www.meneame.net/story/2020-la-luna-2036-marte/c031#c-31</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[<p>Hombre, yo creo que para el 2020 si pueda ser factible, debido a los avances en nanotecnologia,robotica y nuevas fuentes de energia. Son tecnologias que todavia estan en desarrollo pero que yo confio que para el 2010 esten maduras y empiezen a introducirse en el mercado obteniendo como consecuencia de ello un rapido avance de estas tecnologias.<br />
<br />
¿No considerais la robotica como el siguiente gran paso de la humanidad?</p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>Cyberlarry</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<meneame:comment_id>754074</meneame:comment_id>
		<meneame:link_id>173934</meneame:link_id>
		<meneame:order>30</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>RocK</meneame:user>
		<meneame:votes>0</meneame:votes>
		<meneame:karma>6</meneame:karma>
		<meneame:url>https://www.meneame.net/story/2020-la-luna-2036-marte</meneame:url>
		<title>#30 2020, la Luna; 2036, Marte</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/2020-la-luna-2036-marte/c030#c-30</link>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Jul 2007 00:46:22 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>RocK</dc:creator>
		<guid>https://www.meneame.net/story/2020-la-luna-2036-marte/c030#c-30</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[<p>Venga, es nuestra oportunidad!<br />
<br />
A Especular!!!!<br />
<br />
&#60;/mode inmobiliaria&#62;</p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>RocK</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<meneame:comment_id>754060</meneame:comment_id>
		<meneame:link_id>173934</meneame:link_id>
		<meneame:order>29</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>--40836--</meneame:user>
		<meneame:votes>0</meneame:votes>
		<meneame:karma>5</meneame:karma>
		<meneame:url>https://www.meneame.net/story/2020-la-luna-2036-marte</meneame:url>
		<title>#29 2020, la Luna; 2036, Marte</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/2020-la-luna-2036-marte/c029#c-29</link>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Jul 2007 00:30:34 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>--40836--</dc:creator>
		<guid>https://www.meneame.net/story/2020-la-luna-2036-marte/c029#c-29</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[<p><a class="tooltip c:173934-3" href="https://www.meneame.net/story/2020-la-luna-2036-marte/c03#c-3" rel="nofollow">#3</a> Sí, un montaje como el de Erik el Rojo o Colón <img data-src="https://cdn.mnmstatic.net/v_149/img/menemojis/36/wink.png" alt=";)" title=";)" width="18" height="18" src="https://cdn.mnmstatic.net/v_149/img/g.gif" class="emoji lazy" /></p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>--40836--</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<meneame:comment_id>754029</meneame:comment_id>
		<meneame:link_id>173934</meneame:link_id>
		<meneame:order>28</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>mystico</meneame:user>
		<meneame:votes>1</meneame:votes>
		<meneame:karma>16</meneame:karma>
		<meneame:url>https://www.meneame.net/story/2020-la-luna-2036-marte</meneame:url>
		<title>#28 2020, la Luna; 2036, Marte</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/2020-la-luna-2036-marte/c028#c-28</link>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Jul 2007 00:03:35 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>mystico</dc:creator>
		<guid>https://www.meneame.net/story/2020-la-luna-2036-marte/c028#c-28</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[<p><a class="tooltip c:173934-27" href="https://www.meneame.net/story/2020-la-luna-2036-marte/c027#c-27" rel="nofollow">#27</a> JA-JA  <img data-src="https://cdn.mnmstatic.net/v_149/img/menemojis/36/grin.png" alt=":-D" title=":-D" width="18" height="18" src="https://cdn.mnmstatic.net/v_149/img/g.gif" class="emoji lazy" />  La Luna y Marte son para cuando en la tierra queden puras cucarachas</p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>mystico</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<meneame:comment_id>754017</meneame:comment_id>
		<meneame:link_id>173934</meneame:link_id>
		<meneame:order>27</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>rohirr</meneame:user>
		<meneame:votes>1</meneame:votes>
		<meneame:karma>13</meneame:karma>
		<meneame:url>https://www.meneame.net/story/2020-la-luna-2036-marte</meneame:url>
		<title>#27 2020, la Luna; 2036, Marte</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/2020-la-luna-2036-marte/c027#c-27</link>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Jul 2007 23:54:33 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>rohirr</dc:creator>
		<guid>https://www.meneame.net/story/2020-la-luna-2036-marte/c027#c-27</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[<p>Primero que aprendan a cuidar la Tierra y luego q se ocupen de la luna.</p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>rohirr</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<meneame:comment_id>753864</meneame:comment_id>
		<meneame:link_id>173934</meneame:link_id>
		<meneame:order>26</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>--19--</meneame:user>
		<meneame:votes>2</meneame:votes>
		<meneame:karma>20</meneame:karma>
		<meneame:url>https://www.meneame.net/story/2020-la-luna-2036-marte</meneame:url>
		<title>#26 2020, la Luna; 2036, Marte</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/2020-la-luna-2036-marte/c026#c-26</link>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Jul 2007 22:17:53 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>--19--</dc:creator>
		<guid>https://www.meneame.net/story/2020-la-luna-2036-marte/c026#c-26</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[<p>Vamos a ver, eso del 2020 y demás lo llevo escuchan yo desde el siglo pasado no me jodáis. Aquí ni dios se va a mover hasta que algún país &#34;tercermundista&#34; le de por hacerlo, porque usa y europa desde luego no lo van a hacer, ¿para qué?. Pero ayyy el día que china o la india se le crucen los cables y decidan que el sistema solar ha de ser suyo. ¿Se va a quedar occidente parado mientras el sistema solar se llena de chinos e indios?</p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>--19--</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<meneame:comment_id>753848</meneame:comment_id>
		<meneame:link_id>173934</meneame:link_id>
		<meneame:order>25</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>--19--</meneame:user>
		<meneame:votes>6</meneame:votes>
		<meneame:karma>52</meneame:karma>
		<meneame:url>https://www.meneame.net/story/2020-la-luna-2036-marte</meneame:url>
		<title>#25 2020, la Luna; 2036, Marte</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/2020-la-luna-2036-marte/c025#c-25</link>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Jul 2007 22:14:26 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>--19--</dc:creator>
		<guid>https://www.meneame.net/story/2020-la-luna-2036-marte/c025#c-25</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[<p><a class="tooltip c:173934-24" href="https://www.meneame.net/story/2020-la-luna-2036-marte/c024#c-24" rel="nofollow">#24</a> Los problemas de este mundo no se solucionan eliminando la exploración y colonización del sistema solar, sino cambiando el sistema económico, social y político de nuestras sociedades.Sino entiendes la necesidad de salir del planeta madre es que no tienes una visión de la humanidad como especie.</p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>--19--</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<meneame:comment_id>753801</meneame:comment_id>
		<meneame:link_id>173934</meneame:link_id>
		<meneame:order>24</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>magician</meneame:user>
		<meneame:votes>8</meneame:votes>
		<meneame:karma>-42</meneame:karma>
		<meneame:url>https://www.meneame.net/story/2020-la-luna-2036-marte</meneame:url>
		<title>#24 2020, la Luna; 2036, Marte</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/2020-la-luna-2036-marte/c024#c-24</link>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Jul 2007 21:54:20 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>magician</dc:creator>
		<guid>https://www.meneame.net/story/2020-la-luna-2036-marte/c024#c-24</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[<p>Lo flipo... cuanto costará todo esto??? para que fin??? no hay nada mas importante como quitar el hambre del mundo??? arrasamos con un planeta y ya queremos arrasar otros??? <br />
<br />
Somos los peores. <strong>DEMENCIAL</strong></p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>magician</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<meneame:comment_id>753780</meneame:comment_id>
		<meneame:link_id>173934</meneame:link_id>
		<meneame:order>23</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>--32642--</meneame:user>
		<meneame:votes>4</meneame:votes>
		<meneame:karma>32</meneame:karma>
		<meneame:url>https://www.meneame.net/story/2020-la-luna-2036-marte</meneame:url>
		<title>#23 2020, la Luna; 2036, Marte</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/2020-la-luna-2036-marte/c023#c-23</link>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Jul 2007 21:49:02 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>--32642--</dc:creator>
		<guid>https://www.meneame.net/story/2020-la-luna-2036-marte/c023#c-23</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[<p><a class="tooltip c:173934-22" href="https://www.meneame.net/story/2020-la-luna-2036-marte/c022#c-22" rel="nofollow">#22</a> Y que lo digas... ¡Yo ya estoy deseando que llegue el Vierne!</p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>--32642--</strong></p>]]></description>
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	<item>
		<meneame:comment_id>753698</meneame:comment_id>
		<meneame:link_id>173934</meneame:link_id>
		<meneame:order>22</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>janderklander</meneame:user>
		<meneame:votes>1</meneame:votes>
		<meneame:karma>-5</meneame:karma>
		<meneame:url>https://www.meneame.net/story/2020-la-luna-2036-marte</meneame:url>
		<title>#22 2020, la Luna; 2036, Marte</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/2020-la-luna-2036-marte/c022#c-22</link>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Jul 2007 21:06:59 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>janderklander</dc:creator>
		<guid>https://www.meneame.net/story/2020-la-luna-2036-marte/c022#c-22</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[<p>no sé cómo podemos vivir sin haber llegado a Marte &#60;/ironic&#62;</p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>janderklander</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<meneame:comment_id>753695</meneame:comment_id>
		<meneame:link_id>173934</meneame:link_id>
		<meneame:order>21</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>jesucas</meneame:user>
		<meneame:votes>0</meneame:votes>
		<meneame:karma>7</meneame:karma>
		<meneame:url>https://www.meneame.net/story/2020-la-luna-2036-marte</meneame:url>
		<title>#21 2020, la Luna; 2036, Marte</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/2020-la-luna-2036-marte/c021#c-21</link>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Jul 2007 21:05:09 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>jesucas</dc:creator>
		<guid>https://www.meneame.net/story/2020-la-luna-2036-marte/c021#c-21</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[<p>Pues el único astronauta español dice que hasta 2050 de marte nos olvidemos...Hay demasiados problemas que solucionar</p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>jesucas</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<meneame:comment_id>753692</meneame:comment_id>
		<meneame:link_id>173934</meneame:link_id>
		<meneame:order>20</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>tuxcator</meneame:user>
		<meneame:votes>0</meneame:votes>
		<meneame:karma>6</meneame:karma>
		<meneame:url>https://www.meneame.net/story/2020-la-luna-2036-marte</meneame:url>
		<title>#20 2020, la Luna; 2036, Marte</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/2020-la-luna-2036-marte/c020#c-20</link>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Jul 2007 21:04:29 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>tuxcator</dc:creator>
		<guid>https://www.meneame.net/story/2020-la-luna-2036-marte/c020#c-20</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[<p>A lo mejor los rusos ya estan alla en marte viviendo como les gusta el frio <img data-src="https://cdn.mnmstatic.net/v_149/img/menemojis/36/grin.png" alt=":-D" title=":-D" width="18" height="18" src="https://cdn.mnmstatic.net/v_149/img/g.gif" class="emoji lazy" /> , eso creo, ademas son muy extremos y duran en la base espacial de 6 meses a 1 año. mientras los norteamericanos ya andan urgidos en regresar en solo 12 dias en su atlantis <img data-src="https://cdn.mnmstatic.net/v_149/img/menemojis/36/lol.gif" alt="xD" title=":lol: xD" width="18" height="18" src="https://cdn.mnmstatic.net/v_149/img/g.gif" class="emoji lazy" /> yo lo veo dificil que soporten estar solos 6 meses en la deriva del espacio.</p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>tuxcator</strong></p>]]></description>
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	<item>
		<meneame:comment_id>753681</meneame:comment_id>
		<meneame:link_id>173934</meneame:link_id>
		<meneame:order>19</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>--14125--</meneame:user>
		<meneame:votes>0</meneame:votes>
		<meneame:karma>10</meneame:karma>
		<meneame:url>https://www.meneame.net/story/2020-la-luna-2036-marte</meneame:url>
		<title>#19 2020, la Luna; 2036, Marte</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/2020-la-luna-2036-marte/c019#c-19</link>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Jul 2007 21:01:03 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>--14125--</dc:creator>
		<guid>https://www.meneame.net/story/2020-la-luna-2036-marte/c019#c-19</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[<p><a class="tooltip c:173934-17" href="https://www.meneame.net/story/2020-la-luna-2036-marte/c017#c-17" rel="nofollow">#17</a> Hay que darse prisa, Paco el Pocero ya tiene la suya.....</p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>--14125--</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<meneame:comment_id>753674</meneame:comment_id>
		<meneame:link_id>173934</meneame:link_id>
		<meneame:order>18</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>--33301--</meneame:user>
		<meneame:votes>0</meneame:votes>
		<meneame:karma>6</meneame:karma>
		<meneame:url>https://www.meneame.net/story/2020-la-luna-2036-marte</meneame:url>
		<title>#18 2020, la Luna; 2036, Marte</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/2020-la-luna-2036-marte/c018#c-18</link>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Jul 2007 20:58:26 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>--33301--</dc:creator>
		<guid>https://www.meneame.net/story/2020-la-luna-2036-marte/c018#c-18</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[<p>[Usuario deshabilitado]</p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>--33301--</strong></p>]]></description>
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	<item>
		<meneame:comment_id>753665</meneame:comment_id>
		<meneame:link_id>173934</meneame:link_id>
		<meneame:order>17</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>Malolillo</meneame:user>
		<meneame:votes>0</meneame:votes>
		<meneame:karma>6</meneame:karma>
		<meneame:url>https://www.meneame.net/story/2020-la-luna-2036-marte</meneame:url>
		<title>#17 2020, la Luna; 2036, Marte</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/2020-la-luna-2036-marte/c017#c-17</link>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Jul 2007 20:56:09 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Malolillo</dc:creator>
		<guid>https://www.meneame.net/story/2020-la-luna-2036-marte/c017#c-17</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://www.lunarembassy.com" title="www.lunarembassy.com" rel="nofollow">www.lunarembassy.com</a><br />
Para ir comprándose unas parcelitas.</p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>Malolillo</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<meneame:comment_id>753651</meneame:comment_id>
		<meneame:link_id>173934</meneame:link_id>
		<meneame:order>16</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>--36054--</meneame:user>
		<meneame:votes>4</meneame:votes>
		<meneame:karma>37</meneame:karma>
		<meneame:url>https://www.meneame.net/story/2020-la-luna-2036-marte</meneame:url>
		<title>#16 2020, la Luna; 2036, Marte</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/2020-la-luna-2036-marte/c016#c-16</link>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Jul 2007 20:50:28 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>--36054--</dc:creator>
		<guid>https://www.meneame.net/story/2020-la-luna-2036-marte/c016#c-16</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[<p>[Usuario deshabilitado]</p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>--36054--</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<meneame:comment_id>753644</meneame:comment_id>
		<meneame:link_id>173934</meneame:link_id>
		<meneame:order>15</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>--9762--</meneame:user>
		<meneame:votes>0</meneame:votes>
		<meneame:karma>8</meneame:karma>
		<meneame:url>https://www.meneame.net/story/2020-la-luna-2036-marte</meneame:url>
		<title>#15 2020, la Luna; 2036, Marte</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/2020-la-luna-2036-marte/c015#c-15</link>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Jul 2007 20:48:04 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>--9762--</dc:creator>
		<guid>https://www.meneame.net/story/2020-la-luna-2036-marte/c015#c-15</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[<p>[Usuario deshabilitado]</p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>--9762--</strong></p>]]></description>
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	<item>
		<meneame:comment_id>753631</meneame:comment_id>
		<meneame:link_id>173934</meneame:link_id>
		<meneame:order>14</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>Troyoo</meneame:user>
		<meneame:votes>0</meneame:votes>
		<meneame:karma>6</meneame:karma>
		<meneame:url>https://www.meneame.net/story/2020-la-luna-2036-marte</meneame:url>
		<title>#14 2020, la Luna; 2036, Marte</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/2020-la-luna-2036-marte/c014#c-14</link>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Jul 2007 20:42:33 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Troyoo</dc:creator>
		<guid>https://www.meneame.net/story/2020-la-luna-2036-marte/c014#c-14</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[<p>Puff... están locos por trincar el helio3.</p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>Troyoo</strong></p>]]></description>
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	<item>
		<meneame:comment_id>753600</meneame:comment_id>
		<meneame:link_id>173934</meneame:link_id>
		<meneame:order>13</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>--38336--</meneame:user>
		<meneame:votes>4</meneame:votes>
		<meneame:karma>33</meneame:karma>
		<meneame:url>https://www.meneame.net/story/2020-la-luna-2036-marte</meneame:url>
		<title>#13 2020, la Luna; 2036, Marte</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/2020-la-luna-2036-marte/c013#c-13</link>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Jul 2007 20:32:31 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>--38336--</dc:creator>
		<guid>https://www.meneame.net/story/2020-la-luna-2036-marte/c013#c-13</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[<p>Marte: 3 años para ir, 3 de vuelta, y nunca hemos llevado mas de 3 astronautas fuera de la tierra.<br />
Una base en Marte, 9 viajes como los 9 proyectados a la luna mínimo, y eso con reactores atómicos que si no 12, unas cuantas misiones  para conseguir agua en Marte de donde sea, es inviable llevar toneladas que serían necesarias, con 3 años de viaje entre relevo y relevo.<br />
Si lo del agua lo arreglan en 3 viajes, son 18 años, mas 9 viajes, osea otros 54 años sin contar el tiempo de permanencia.<br />
2007 + 18 +54 = 2079 mas el tiempo de trabajo en la tierra entre misión y misión, y el de Marte,<br />
2090 mínimo... <img data-src="https://cdn.mnmstatic.net/v_149/img/menemojis/36/smiley.png" alt=":-)" title=":-)" width="18" height="18" src="https://cdn.mnmstatic.net/v_149/img/g.gif" class="emoji lazy" /></p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>--38336--</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<meneame:comment_id>753395</meneame:comment_id>
		<meneame:link_id>173934</meneame:link_id>
		<meneame:order>12</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>Akron</meneame:user>
		<meneame:votes>11</meneame:votes>
		<meneame:karma>-47</meneame:karma>
		<meneame:url>https://www.meneame.net/story/2020-la-luna-2036-marte</meneame:url>
		<title>#12 2020, la Luna; 2036, Marte</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/2020-la-luna-2036-marte/c012#c-12</link>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Jul 2007 19:23:04 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Akron</dc:creator>
		<guid>https://www.meneame.net/story/2020-la-luna-2036-marte/c012#c-12</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[<p>Ohhhhhhhhh. Por fin llegaremos a la luna!! <img data-src="https://cdn.mnmstatic.net/v_149/img/menemojis/36/grin.png" alt=":-D" title=":-D" width="18" height="18" src="https://cdn.mnmstatic.net/v_149/img/g.gif" class="emoji lazy" /></p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>Akron</strong></p>]]></description>
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	<item>
		<meneame:comment_id>753219</meneame:comment_id>
		<meneame:link_id>173934</meneame:link_id>
		<meneame:order>11</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>--2516--</meneame:user>
		<meneame:votes>0</meneame:votes>
		<meneame:karma>10</meneame:karma>
		<meneame:url>https://www.meneame.net/story/2020-la-luna-2036-marte</meneame:url>
		<title>#11 2020, la Luna; 2036, Marte</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/2020-la-luna-2036-marte/c011#c-11</link>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Jul 2007 18:14:08 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>--2516--</dc:creator>
		<guid>https://www.meneame.net/story/2020-la-luna-2036-marte/c011#c-11</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[<p>[Usuario deshabilitado]</p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>--2516--</strong></p>]]></description>
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	<item>
		<meneame:comment_id>752797</meneame:comment_id>
		<meneame:link_id>173934</meneame:link_id>
		<meneame:order>10</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>lestat</meneame:user>
		<meneame:votes>22</meneame:votes>
		<meneame:karma>-84</meneame:karma>
		<meneame:url>https://www.meneame.net/story/2020-la-luna-2036-marte</meneame:url>
		<title>#10 2020, la Luna; 2036, Marte</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/2020-la-luna-2036-marte/c010#c-10</link>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Jul 2007 15:07:42 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>lestat</dc:creator>
		<guid>https://www.meneame.net/story/2020-la-luna-2036-marte/c010#c-10</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[<p>Y todavía hay gente que piensa que llegamos a la luna en el 1969 ...<br />
<br />
ja ja ja ja ja ja ja ja ja ja ja ja ja ja ja ja ja ja ja ja ja ja ja</p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>lestat</strong></p>]]></description>
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	<item>
		<meneame:comment_id>752792</meneame:comment_id>
		<meneame:link_id>173934</meneame:link_id>
		<meneame:order>9</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>ikipol</meneame:user>
		<meneame:votes>2</meneame:votes>
		<meneame:karma>25</meneame:karma>
		<meneame:url>https://www.meneame.net/story/2020-la-luna-2036-marte</meneame:url>
		<title>#9 2020, la Luna; 2036, Marte</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/2020-la-luna-2036-marte/c09#c-9</link>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Jul 2007 15:06:04 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>ikipol</dc:creator>
		<guid>https://www.meneame.net/story/2020-la-luna-2036-marte/c09#c-9</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[<p>2050, calle génova <img data-src="https://cdn.mnmstatic.net/v_149/img/menemojis/36/tongue.png" alt=":-P" title=":-P" width="18" height="18" src="https://cdn.mnmstatic.net/v_149/img/g.gif" class="emoji lazy" /></p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>ikipol</strong></p>]]></description>
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	<item>
		<meneame:comment_id>752508</meneame:comment_id>
		<meneame:link_id>173934</meneame:link_id>
		<meneame:order>8</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>wiju</meneame:user>
		<meneame:votes>0</meneame:votes>
		<meneame:karma>8</meneame:karma>
		<meneame:url>https://www.meneame.net/story/2020-la-luna-2036-marte</meneame:url>
		<title>#8 2020, la Luna; 2036, Marte</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/2020-la-luna-2036-marte/c08#c-8</link>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Jul 2007 13:17:43 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>wiju</dc:creator>
		<guid>https://www.meneame.net/story/2020-la-luna-2036-marte/c08#c-8</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[<p>Estos Estadounidenses cada día están más locos.</p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>wiju</strong></p>]]></description>
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	<item>
		<meneame:comment_id>752411</meneame:comment_id>
		<meneame:link_id>173934</meneame:link_id>
		<meneame:order>7</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>--30038--</meneame:user>
		<meneame:votes>7</meneame:votes>
		<meneame:karma>59</meneame:karma>
		<meneame:url>https://www.meneame.net/story/2020-la-luna-2036-marte</meneame:url>
		<title>#7 2020, la Luna; 2036, Marte</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/2020-la-luna-2036-marte/c07#c-7</link>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Jul 2007 12:50:45 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>--30038--</dc:creator>
		<guid>https://www.meneame.net/story/2020-la-luna-2036-marte/c07#c-7</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[<p>[Usuario deshabilitado]</p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>--30038--</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<meneame:comment_id>752391</meneame:comment_id>
		<meneame:link_id>173934</meneame:link_id>
		<meneame:order>6</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>--40963--</meneame:user>
		<meneame:votes>0</meneame:votes>
		<meneame:karma>6</meneame:karma>
		<meneame:url>https://www.meneame.net/story/2020-la-luna-2036-marte</meneame:url>
		<title>#6 2020, la Luna; 2036, Marte</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/2020-la-luna-2036-marte/c06#c-6</link>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Jul 2007 12:47:30 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>--40963--</dc:creator>
		<guid>https://www.meneame.net/story/2020-la-luna-2036-marte/c06#c-6</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[<p>[Usuario deshabilitado]</p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>--40963--</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<meneame:comment_id>752373</meneame:comment_id>
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		<meneame:order>5</meneame:order>
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		<title>#5 2020, la Luna; 2036, Marte</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/2020-la-luna-2036-marte/c05#c-5</link>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Jul 2007 12:40:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[<p>Miguel Ángel López-Alegría &#34;considera que la manera de devolver protagonismo a la carrera espacial es la inversión privada&#34;. ¡Genial, la privatización de recursos en la Tierra no nos ha enseñado mucho! Todavía no tenemos bases permanentes en la Luna o Marte y ya sabemos que serán 100% privadas.</p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>carloscapote</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<title>#4 2020, la Luna; 2036, Marte</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/2020-la-luna-2036-marte/c04#c-4</link>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Jul 2007 12:10:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[<p>[Usuario deshabilitado]</p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>--43391--</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<title>#3 2020, la Luna; 2036, Marte</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/2020-la-luna-2036-marte/c03#c-3</link>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Jul 2007 12:08:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[<p>[Usuario deshabilitado]</p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>--30038--</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<title>#2 2020, la Luna; 2036, Marte</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/2020-la-luna-2036-marte/c02#c-2</link>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Jul 2007 12:06:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[<p>[Usuario deshabilitado]</p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>--26306--</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<meneame:comment_id>752277</meneame:comment_id>
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		<meneame:order>1</meneame:order>
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		<title>#1 2020, la Luna; 2036, Marte</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/2020-la-luna-2036-marte/c01#c-1</link>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Jul 2007 12:02:16 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>--35380--</dc:creator>
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