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	<pubDate>Tue, 16 May 2006 22:00:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<meneame:comment_id>50056</meneame:comment_id>
		<meneame:link_id>17357</meneame:link_id>
		<meneame:order>14</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>unf</meneame:user>
		<meneame:votes>0</meneame:votes>
		<meneame:karma>8</meneame:karma>
		<meneame:url>https://www.meneame.net/story/java-por-fin-distribuible-en-gnulinux</meneame:url>
		<title>#14 Java por fin distribuible en GNU/Linux</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/java-por-fin-distribuible-en-gnulinux/c014#c-14</link>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 May 2006 22:00:16 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>unf</dc:creator>
		<guid>https://www.meneame.net/story/java-por-fin-distribuible-en-gnulinux/c014#c-14</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[<p>unf@humpty-dumpty:~$ aptitude search sun-java5<br />
p   sun-java5-bin - Sun Java(TM) Runtime Environment (JRE) 5.0<br />
p   sun-java5-demo - Sun Java(TM) Development Kit (JDK) 5.0 demos and examples<br />
p   sun-java5-doc - Sun JDK(TM) Documention -- integration installer<br />
p   sun-java5-fonts - Lucida TrueType fonts (from the Sun JRE)<br />
p   sun-java5-jdk - Sun Java(TM) Development Kit (JDK) 5.0<br />
p   sun-java5-jre - Sun Java(TM) Runtime Environment (JRE) 5.0<br />
p   sun-java5-plugin - The Java(TM) Plug-in, Java SE 5.0<br />
p   sun-java5-source - Sun Java(TM) Development Kit (JDK) 5.0 source files<br />
<br />
¿Desde cuándo se supone que está?</p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>unf</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<meneame:comment_id>50046</meneame:comment_id>
		<meneame:link_id>17357</meneame:link_id>
		<meneame:order>13</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>unf</meneame:user>
		<meneame:votes>0</meneame:votes>
		<meneame:karma>8</meneame:karma>
		<meneame:url>https://www.meneame.net/story/java-por-fin-distribuible-en-gnulinux</meneame:url>
		<title>#13 Java por fin distribuible en GNU/Linux</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/java-por-fin-distribuible-en-gnulinux/c013#c-13</link>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 May 2006 21:45:58 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>unf</dc:creator>
		<guid>https://www.meneame.net/story/java-por-fin-distribuible-en-gnulinux/c013#c-13</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[<p>how to prevent forking? ¿Creeis que alguien se animaría a iniciar un fork de Java? Muy muy mal tendría que hacerlo Sun</p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>unf</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<meneame:comment_id>49994</meneame:comment_id>
		<meneame:link_id>17357</meneame:link_id>
		<meneame:order>12</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>--476--</meneame:user>
		<meneame:votes>0</meneame:votes>
		<meneame:karma>14</meneame:karma>
		<meneame:url>https://www.meneame.net/story/java-por-fin-distribuible-en-gnulinux</meneame:url>
		<title>#12 Java por fin distribuible en GNU/Linux</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/java-por-fin-distribuible-en-gnulinux/c012#c-12</link>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 May 2006 21:07:50 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>--476--</dc:creator>
		<guid>https://www.meneame.net/story/java-por-fin-distribuible-en-gnulinux/c012#c-12</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[<p>Parece que en el JavaOne se lo están pasando pipa:<br />
<br />
Sun to Release Java Source Code<br />
<a href="http://developers.slashdot.org/developers/06/05/16/1756226.shtml" title="developers.slashdot.org/developers/06/05/16/1756226.shtml" rel="nofollow">developers.slashdot.org/developers/06/05/16/1756226.shtml</a><br />
<br />
La cuestión no es cuando, sino como... vaya efectista es el Schwartz. Pero vamos, si acaba abriéndolo...<br />
<br />
Ya veremos <img data-src="https://cdn.mnmstatic.net/v_149/img/menemojis/36/smiley.png" alt=":-)" title=":-)" width="18" height="18" src="https://cdn.mnmstatic.net/v_149/img/g.gif" class="emoji lazy" /></p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>--476--</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<meneame:comment_id>49990</meneame:comment_id>
		<meneame:link_id>17357</meneame:link_id>
		<meneame:order>11</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>paco</meneame:user>
		<meneame:votes>0</meneame:votes>
		<meneame:karma>6</meneame:karma>
		<meneame:url>https://www.meneame.net/story/java-por-fin-distribuible-en-gnulinux</meneame:url>
		<title>#11 Java por fin distribuible en GNU/Linux</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/java-por-fin-distribuible-en-gnulinux/c011#c-11</link>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 May 2006 21:04:31 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>paco</dc:creator>
		<guid>https://www.meneame.net/story/java-por-fin-distribuible-en-gnulinux/c011#c-11</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[<p>La licencia sigue siendo restrictiva. No mola <img data-src="https://cdn.mnmstatic.net/v_149/img/menemojis/36/sad.png" alt=":-(" title=":-(" width="18" height="18" src="https://cdn.mnmstatic.net/v_149/img/g.gif" class="emoji lazy" /></p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>paco</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<meneame:comment_id>49949</meneame:comment_id>
		<meneame:link_id>17357</meneame:link_id>
		<meneame:order>10</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>mcosta</meneame:user>
		<meneame:votes>0</meneame:votes>
		<meneame:karma>6</meneame:karma>
		<meneame:url>https://www.meneame.net/story/java-por-fin-distribuible-en-gnulinux</meneame:url>
		<title>#10 Java por fin distribuible en GNU/Linux</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/java-por-fin-distribuible-en-gnulinux/c010#c-10</link>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 May 2006 20:28:53 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>mcosta</dc:creator>
		<guid>https://www.meneame.net/story/java-por-fin-distribuible-en-gnulinux/c010#c-10</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[<p><a class="tooltip c:17357-9" href="https://www.meneame.net/story/java-por-fin-distribuible-en-gnulinux/c09#c-9" rel="nofollow">#9</a> ¿Tienes algun enlace a alguna comparativa? Yo solo encuentro de J2EE vs .NET para empresas, con soap, xml y todo esa enterprise shit. ¿Nadie ha hecho una comparativa para aplicaciones de escritorio?</p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>mcosta</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<meneame:comment_id>49925</meneame:comment_id>
		<meneame:link_id>17357</meneame:link_id>
		<meneame:order>9</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>jdeveloper</meneame:user>
		<meneame:votes>0</meneame:votes>
		<meneame:karma>8</meneame:karma>
		<meneame:url>https://www.meneame.net/story/java-por-fin-distribuible-en-gnulinux</meneame:url>
		<title>#9 Java por fin distribuible en GNU/Linux</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/java-por-fin-distribuible-en-gnulinux/c09#c-9</link>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 May 2006 19:53:55 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>jdeveloper</dc:creator>
		<guid>https://www.meneame.net/story/java-por-fin-distribuible-en-gnulinux/c09#c-9</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[<p>Mono va con creces mas ligero.</p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>jdeveloper</strong></p>]]></description>
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	<item>
		<meneame:comment_id>49895</meneame:comment_id>
		<meneame:link_id>17357</meneame:link_id>
		<meneame:order>8</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>--476--</meneame:user>
		<meneame:votes>0</meneame:votes>
		<meneame:karma>14</meneame:karma>
		<meneame:url>https://www.meneame.net/story/java-por-fin-distribuible-en-gnulinux</meneame:url>
		<title>#8 Java por fin distribuible en GNU/Linux</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/java-por-fin-distribuible-en-gnulinux/c08#c-8</link>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 May 2006 19:20:27 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>--476--</dc:creator>
		<guid>https://www.meneame.net/story/java-por-fin-distribuible-en-gnulinux/c08#c-8</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[<p><a class="tooltip c:17357-7" href="https://www.meneame.net/story/java-por-fin-distribuible-en-gnulinux/c07#c-7" rel="nofollow">#7</a> Sí, el OOo (imagino que te refieres a OpenOffice.org)... esa gran aplicación hecha en Java  <img data-src="https://cdn.mnmstatic.net/v_149/img/menemojis/36/lol.gif" alt="xD" title=":lol: xD" width="18" height="18" src="https://cdn.mnmstatic.net/v_149/img/g.gif" class="emoji lazy" /><br />
<br />
Además, no defiendo al lenguaje, solo que me dejen usarlo en condiciones trabajando con el distribuidor de Linux que he elegido. Que una empresa intente potenciar un lenguaje desde posturas propietarias.. es una gilipollez (a no ser que no quieran que se use el lenguaje). Parece que SUN se va dando cuenta, algo es algo.</p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>--476--</strong></p>]]></description>
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	<item>
		<meneame:comment_id>49890</meneame:comment_id>
		<meneame:link_id>17357</meneame:link_id>
		<meneame:order>7</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>alexander</meneame:user>
		<meneame:votes>0</meneame:votes>
		<meneame:karma>6</meneame:karma>
		<meneame:url>https://www.meneame.net/story/java-por-fin-distribuible-en-gnulinux</meneame:url>
		<title>#7 Java por fin distribuible en GNU/Linux</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/java-por-fin-distribuible-en-gnulinux/c07#c-7</link>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 May 2006 19:16:30 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>alexander</dc:creator>
		<guid>https://www.meneame.net/story/java-por-fin-distribuible-en-gnulinux/c07#c-7</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[<p><a class="tooltip c:17357-5" href="https://www.meneame.net/story/java-por-fin-distribuible-en-gnulinux/c05#c-5" rel="nofollow">#5</a> Como el OO que va volando.</p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>alexander</strong></p>]]></description>
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	<item>
		<meneame:comment_id>49889</meneame:comment_id>
		<meneame:link_id>17357</meneame:link_id>
		<meneame:order>6</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>ronald_poi</meneame:user>
		<meneame:votes>0</meneame:votes>
		<meneame:karma>7</meneame:karma>
		<meneame:url>https://www.meneame.net/story/java-por-fin-distribuible-en-gnulinux</meneame:url>
		<title>#6 Java por fin distribuible en GNU/Linux</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/java-por-fin-distribuible-en-gnulinux/c06#c-6</link>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 May 2006 19:15:26 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>ronald_poi</dc:creator>
		<guid>https://www.meneame.net/story/java-por-fin-distribuible-en-gnulinux/c06#c-6</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[<p>El Java no es tan lento como se dice. Si la aplicación se edifica como se debe, puede ser bastante suave...</p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>ronald_poi</strong></p>]]></description>
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	<item>
		<meneame:comment_id>49805</meneame:comment_id>
		<meneame:link_id>17357</meneame:link_id>
		<meneame:order>5</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>--476--</meneame:user>
		<meneame:votes>0</meneame:votes>
		<meneame:karma>14</meneame:karma>
		<meneame:url>https://www.meneame.net/story/java-por-fin-distribuible-en-gnulinux</meneame:url>
		<title>#5 Java por fin distribuible en GNU/Linux</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/java-por-fin-distribuible-en-gnulinux/c05#c-5</link>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 May 2006 17:57:14 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>--476--</dc:creator>
		<guid>https://www.meneame.net/story/java-por-fin-distribuible-en-gnulinux/c05#c-5</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[<p>Yo sí lo veo un avance, aunque es solo parte del camino.<br />
<br />
¿Por qué? Por que ahora el JRE de SUN puede pasar a ser una dependencia más... y los distribuidores podrán empaquetar aplicaciones Java como hacen con cualquier otra.<br />
<br />
<a class="tooltip c:17357-3" href="https://www.meneame.net/story/java-por-fin-distribuible-en-gnulinux/c03#c-3" rel="nofollow">#3</a> la idea no es descargarse nada, sino que el gestor de paquetes lo haga por ti: apt-get install azureus-gtk y que él solo baje el JRE si hace falta. Eso antes no era posible, así que muchas aplicaciones Java quedaban sin soporte.<br />
<br />
Yo uso el programa X porque me gusta, me da igual las dependencias (como si está en Python o Ruby o Perl o... Java).</p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>--476--</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<meneame:comment_id>49774</meneame:comment_id>
		<meneame:link_id>17357</meneame:link_id>
		<meneame:order>4</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>DZPM</meneame:user>
		<meneame:votes>0</meneame:votes>
		<meneame:karma>14</meneame:karma>
		<meneame:url>https://www.meneame.net/story/java-por-fin-distribuible-en-gnulinux</meneame:url>
		<title>#4 Java por fin distribuible en GNU/Linux</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/java-por-fin-distribuible-en-gnulinux/c04#c-4</link>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 May 2006 17:23:53 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>DZPM</dc:creator>
		<guid>https://www.meneame.net/story/java-por-fin-distribuible-en-gnulinux/c04#c-4</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[<p>¿No lo iban a liberar? Hasta que no lo liberen...</p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>DZPM</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<meneame:comment_id>49756</meneame:comment_id>
		<meneame:link_id>17357</meneame:link_id>
		<meneame:order>3</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>Morten</meneame:user>
		<meneame:votes>0</meneame:votes>
		<meneame:karma>7</meneame:karma>
		<meneame:url>https://www.meneame.net/story/java-por-fin-distribuible-en-gnulinux</meneame:url>
		<title>#3 Java por fin distribuible en GNU/Linux</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/java-por-fin-distribuible-en-gnulinux/c03#c-3</link>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 May 2006 17:02:25 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Morten</dc:creator>
		<guid>https://www.meneame.net/story/java-por-fin-distribuible-en-gnulinux/c03#c-3</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[<p>Java=Lentitud . Por eso intento descargarme el menor números de aplicaciones cuyo código está escrito en este lenguaje.</p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>Morten</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<meneame:comment_id>49694</meneame:comment_id>
		<meneame:link_id>17357</meneame:link_id>
		<meneame:order>2</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>--2294--</meneame:user>
		<meneame:votes>0</meneame:votes>
		<meneame:karma>20</meneame:karma>
		<meneame:url>https://www.meneame.net/story/java-por-fin-distribuible-en-gnulinux</meneame:url>
		<title>#2 Java por fin distribuible en GNU/Linux</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/java-por-fin-distribuible-en-gnulinux/c02#c-2</link>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 May 2006 15:03:21 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>--2294--</dc:creator>
		<guid>https://www.meneame.net/story/java-por-fin-distribuible-en-gnulinux/c02#c-2</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[<p>relacionada <a href="http://meneame.net/story.php?id=16325" title="meneame.net/story.php?id=16325" rel="nofollow">meneame.net/story.php?id=16325</a></p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>--2294--</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<meneame:comment_id>49691</meneame:comment_id>
		<meneame:link_id>17357</meneame:link_id>
		<meneame:order>1</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>--476--</meneame:user>
		<meneame:votes>0</meneame:votes>
		<meneame:karma>14</meneame:karma>
		<meneame:url>https://www.meneame.net/story/java-por-fin-distribuible-en-gnulinux</meneame:url>
		<title>#1 Java por fin distribuible en GNU/Linux</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/java-por-fin-distribuible-en-gnulinux/c01#c-1</link>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 May 2006 15:01:00 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>--476--</dc:creator>
		<guid>https://www.meneame.net/story/java-por-fin-distribuible-en-gnulinux/c01#c-1</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[<p>Y en tendencias autobombísticas de las mejores:<br />
<br />
¿Java se acerca a las distribuciones de Linux?<br />
<a href="http://blackshell.usebox.net/archivo/847.php" title="blackshell.usebox.net/archivo/847.php" rel="nofollow">blackshell.usebox.net/archivo/847.php</a><br />
<br />
Comento la jugada en castellano, pero la fuente... en el meneo <img data-src="https://cdn.mnmstatic.net/v_149/img/menemojis/36/smiley.png" alt=":-)" title=":-)" width="18" height="18" src="https://cdn.mnmstatic.net/v_149/img/g.gif" class="emoji lazy" /></p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>--476--</strong></p>]]></description>
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