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		<meneame:comment_id>48779</meneame:comment_id>
		<meneame:link_id>16446</meneame:link_id>
		<meneame:order>17</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>frosas</meneame:user>
		<meneame:votes>0</meneame:votes>
		<meneame:karma>6</meneame:karma>
		<meneame:url>https://www.meneame.net/story/indispensables-para-programar-php</meneame:url>
		<title>#17 Indispensables para programar PHP</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/indispensables-para-programar-php/c017#c-17</link>
		<pubDate>Sun, 14 May 2006 21:13:15 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>frosas</dc:creator>
		<guid>https://www.meneame.net/story/indispensables-para-programar-php/c017#c-17</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[<p>jEdit (y vim para retoques rápidos) aunque tengo pendiente probar las extensiones de Eclipse para PHP.</p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>frosas</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<meneame:comment_id>46791</meneame:comment_id>
		<meneame:link_id>16446</meneame:link_id>
		<meneame:order>16</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>isilanes</meneame:user>
		<meneame:votes>0</meneame:votes>
		<meneame:karma>6</meneame:karma>
		<meneame:url>https://www.meneame.net/story/indispensables-para-programar-php</meneame:url>
		<title>#16 Indispensables para programar PHP</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/indispensables-para-programar-php/c016#c-16</link>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 May 2006 08:42:10 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>isilanes</dc:creator>
		<guid>https://www.meneame.net/story/indispensables-para-programar-php/c016#c-16</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[<p>Y los machos listos, vi.</p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>isilanes</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<meneame:comment_id>46526</meneame:comment_id>
		<meneame:link_id>16446</meneame:link_id>
		<meneame:order>15</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>asantos</meneame:user>
		<meneame:votes>0</meneame:votes>
		<meneame:karma>6</meneame:karma>
		<meneame:url>https://www.meneame.net/story/indispensables-para-programar-php</meneame:url>
		<title>#15 Indispensables para programar PHP</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/indispensables-para-programar-php/c015#c-15</link>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 May 2006 21:21:35 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>asantos</dc:creator>
		<guid>https://www.meneame.net/story/indispensables-para-programar-php/c015#c-15</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[<p>Los machos usamos Notepad++</p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>asantos</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<meneame:comment_id>46134</meneame:comment_id>
		<meneame:link_id>16446</meneame:link_id>
		<meneame:order>14</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>llorencs</meneame:user>
		<meneame:votes>0</meneame:votes>
		<meneame:karma>8</meneame:karma>
		<meneame:url>https://www.meneame.net/story/indispensables-para-programar-php</meneame:url>
		<title>#14 Indispensables para programar PHP</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/indispensables-para-programar-php/c014#c-14</link>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 May 2006 09:53:25 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>llorencs</dc:creator>
		<guid>https://www.meneame.net/story/indispensables-para-programar-php/c014#c-14</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[<p>Yo suelo usar el Quanta, y nunca me ha fallado. También alguna vez bluefish, depende de donde o para quien programe.</p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>llorencs</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<meneame:comment_id>46066</meneame:comment_id>
		<meneame:link_id>16446</meneame:link_id>
		<meneame:order>13</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>Nech</meneame:user>
		<meneame:votes>0</meneame:votes>
		<meneame:karma>9</meneame:karma>
		<meneame:url>https://www.meneame.net/story/indispensables-para-programar-php</meneame:url>
		<title>#13 Indispensables para programar PHP</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/indispensables-para-programar-php/c013#c-13</link>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 May 2006 08:01:39 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Nech</dc:creator>
		<guid>https://www.meneame.net/story/indispensables-para-programar-php/c013#c-13</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[<p>Quanta powa'h.<br />
A mi no me peta nunca... lo que es lento de cargar...</p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>Nech</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<meneame:comment_id>46061</meneame:comment_id>
		<meneame:link_id>16446</meneame:link_id>
		<meneame:order>12</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>jdeveloper</meneame:user>
		<meneame:votes>0</meneame:votes>
		<meneame:karma>8</meneame:karma>
		<meneame:url>https://www.meneame.net/story/indispensables-para-programar-php</meneame:url>
		<title>#12 Indispensables para programar PHP</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/indispensables-para-programar-php/c012#c-12</link>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 May 2006 07:55:19 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>jdeveloper</dc:creator>
		<guid>https://www.meneame.net/story/indispensables-para-programar-php/c012#c-12</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[<p>yo uso el Quanta, que en general esta bien, pero me peta bastantes veces.</p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>jdeveloper</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<meneame:comment_id>46058</meneame:comment_id>
		<meneame:link_id>16446</meneame:link_id>
		<meneame:order>11</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>--2002--</meneame:user>
		<meneame:votes>0</meneame:votes>
		<meneame:karma>6</meneame:karma>
		<meneame:url>https://www.meneame.net/story/indispensables-para-programar-php</meneame:url>
		<title>#11 Indispensables para programar PHP</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/indispensables-para-programar-php/c011#c-11</link>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 May 2006 07:49:56 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>--2002--</dc:creator>
		<guid>https://www.meneame.net/story/indispensables-para-programar-php/c011#c-11</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[<p>JarFil, ¿has probado el Quanta+? usa el motor del Kate, pero con autocompletado</p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>--2002--</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<meneame:comment_id>46016</meneame:comment_id>
		<meneame:link_id>16446</meneame:link_id>
		<meneame:order>10</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>maxxcan</meneame:user>
		<meneame:votes>0</meneame:votes>
		<meneame:karma>6</meneame:karma>
		<meneame:url>https://www.meneame.net/story/indispensables-para-programar-php</meneame:url>
		<title>#10 Indispensables para programar PHP</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/indispensables-para-programar-php/c010#c-10</link>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 May 2006 06:23:42 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>maxxcan</dc:creator>
		<guid>https://www.meneame.net/story/indispensables-para-programar-php/c010#c-10</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[<p>Ahí ahí jorgmar vim al poder, es el mejor editor del mundo mundial <img data-src="https://cdn.mnmstatic.net/v_149/img/menemojis/36/grin.png" alt=":-D" title=":-D" width="18" height="18" src="https://cdn.mnmstatic.net/v_149/img/g.gif" class="emoji lazy" /></p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>maxxcan</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<meneame:comment_id>46001</meneame:comment_id>
		<meneame:link_id>16446</meneame:link_id>
		<meneame:order>9</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>--4988--</meneame:user>
		<meneame:votes>0</meneame:votes>
		<meneame:karma>6</meneame:karma>
		<meneame:url>https://www.meneame.net/story/indispensables-para-programar-php</meneame:url>
		<title>#9 Indispensables para programar PHP</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/indispensables-para-programar-php/c09#c-9</link>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 May 2006 04:43:10 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>--4988--</dc:creator>
		<guid>https://www.meneame.net/story/indispensables-para-programar-php/c09#c-9</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[<p>Me parece que al que ha escrito el articulo se le ha ido la pinza ¿PHP Expert Editor GNU? Es un programa de pago, se puede conseguir una trial de 60 dias, pero ahí termina la cosa, y no he llegado a ver nada sobre la licencia, pero me da que no (si me equivoco que alguien me corrija). Fue uno de los primeros editores PHP que usé, no está mal, pero desde luego no le veo nada que justifique los 35$ que cuesta. Acabé sustituyéndolo por PHP Designer, que es uno de los que más uso hoy en día, hasta donde sé, tampoco es código abierto, pero al menos es gratis y no tiene ninguna pega más, tiene un muy buen completado de codigo (aunque me gusta más el del Zend), cliente FTP integrado, planificador, resalta multiples lenguajes, asistentes para HTML... a mi me gusta bastante desde luego.<br />
<br />
El resto de programas... pues están bien, para montar el chiringuito yo uso WMserver Tools que te lo da todo hecho (PHP+Apache+Mysql+Perl+servidor de pruebas de correo en apenas 4 clicks de instalación). Habrá que probar el DBdesigner a ver que tal, lo de las bases de datos va aparte, como siempre.<br />
<br />
Por cierto, ¿alguno sabe que tal es la extensión de Eclipse para PHP? No me acaba de convencer lo que veo sobre ella por ahí.</p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>--4988--</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<meneame:comment_id>45956</meneame:comment_id>
		<meneame:link_id>16446</meneame:link_id>
		<meneame:order>8</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>--1994--</meneame:user>
		<meneame:votes>0</meneame:votes>
		<meneame:karma>19</meneame:karma>
		<meneame:url>https://www.meneame.net/story/indispensables-para-programar-php</meneame:url>
		<title>#8 Indispensables para programar PHP</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/indispensables-para-programar-php/c08#c-8</link>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 May 2006 23:35:30 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>--1994--</dc:creator>
		<guid>https://www.meneame.net/story/indispensables-para-programar-php/c08#c-8</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[<p>El artículo no habla de casi nada relacionado con php, mysql workbech es para bases de datos y la barra web developer es para maquetación y programación html.<br />
<br />
Para trabajar con php yo recomiendo.<br />
<br />
En windows, notepad++ es lo más parecido a kwrite que vas encontrar una gozada, resaltado de sintaxis, plugins, ...<br />
Si tienes pasta y quieres algo más completo no hay nada mejor que Zend Studio muy util y con depurador y profiler.<br />
<br />
Tambien puedes usar el depurador y profiler gratuito DBG <a href="http://dd.cron.ru/" title="dd.cron.ru/" rel="nofollow">dd.cron.ru/</a> <br />
<br />
En linux kwrite, gedit o vim.</p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>--1994--</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<meneame:comment_id>45940</meneame:comment_id>
		<meneame:link_id>16446</meneame:link_id>
		<meneame:order>7</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>PerroVerd</meneame:user>
		<meneame:votes>0</meneame:votes>
		<meneame:karma>7</meneame:karma>
		<meneame:url>https://www.meneame.net/story/indispensables-para-programar-php</meneame:url>
		<title>#7 Indispensables para programar PHP</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/indispensables-para-programar-php/c07#c-7</link>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 May 2006 22:46:16 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>PerroVerd</dc:creator>
		<guid>https://www.meneame.net/story/indispensables-para-programar-php/c07#c-7</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[<p>a <a class="tooltip c:16446-3" href="https://www.meneame.net/story/indispensables-para-programar-php/c03#c-3" rel="nofollow">#3</a>, sí utilizas la extensión de Firefox webdeveloper no te hace falta la de HTML Validator ya que la lleva incluida.<br />
<br />
De todo lo que ha mencionado el autor en el artículo lo más imprescindible para mi es esa extensión, además del vim tal como apunta <a class="tooltip c:16446-4" href="https://www.meneame.net/story/indispensables-para-programar-php/c04#c-4" rel="nofollow">#4</a></p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>PerroVerd</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<meneame:comment_id>45933</meneame:comment_id>
		<meneame:link_id>16446</meneame:link_id>
		<meneame:order>6</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>--2516--</meneame:user>
		<meneame:votes>0</meneame:votes>
		<meneame:karma>7</meneame:karma>
		<meneame:url>https://www.meneame.net/story/indispensables-para-programar-php</meneame:url>
		<title>#6 Indispensables para programar PHP</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/indispensables-para-programar-php/c06#c-6</link>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 May 2006 22:30:43 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>--2516--</dc:creator>
		<guid>https://www.meneame.net/story/indispensables-para-programar-php/c06#c-6</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[<p>[Usuario deshabilitado]</p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>--2516--</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<meneame:comment_id>45931</meneame:comment_id>
		<meneame:link_id>16446</meneame:link_id>
		<meneame:order>5</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>jorgmar</meneame:user>
		<meneame:votes>0</meneame:votes>
		<meneame:karma>6</meneame:karma>
		<meneame:url>https://www.meneame.net/story/indispensables-para-programar-php</meneame:url>
		<title>#5 Indispensables para programar PHP</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/indispensables-para-programar-php/c05#c-5</link>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 May 2006 22:23:41 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>jorgmar</dc:creator>
		<guid>https://www.meneame.net/story/indispensables-para-programar-php/c05#c-5</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[<p>esté</p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>jorgmar</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<meneame:comment_id>45929</meneame:comment_id>
		<meneame:link_id>16446</meneame:link_id>
		<meneame:order>4</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>jorgmar</meneame:user>
		<meneame:votes>0</meneame:votes>
		<meneame:karma>6</meneame:karma>
		<meneame:url>https://www.meneame.net/story/indispensables-para-programar-php</meneame:url>
		<title>#4 Indispensables para programar PHP</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/indispensables-para-programar-php/c04#c-4</link>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 May 2006 22:23:04 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>jorgmar</dc:creator>
		<guid>https://www.meneame.net/story/indispensables-para-programar-php/c04#c-4</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[<p>no veo que el vim ... <img data-src="https://cdn.mnmstatic.net/v_149/img/menemojis/36/tongue.png" alt=":-P" title=":-P" width="18" height="18" src="https://cdn.mnmstatic.net/v_149/img/g.gif" class="emoji lazy" /></p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>jorgmar</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<meneame:comment_id>45888</meneame:comment_id>
		<meneame:link_id>16446</meneame:link_id>
		<meneame:order>3</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>Stolz</meneame:user>
		<meneame:votes>0</meneame:votes>
		<meneame:karma>6</meneame:karma>
		<meneame:url>https://www.meneame.net/story/indispensables-para-programar-php</meneame:url>
		<title>#3 Indispensables para programar PHP</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/indispensables-para-programar-php/c03#c-3</link>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 May 2006 21:23:07 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Stolz</dc:creator>
		<guid>https://www.meneame.net/story/indispensables-para-programar-php/c03#c-3</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[<p>Lo que yo uso:<br />
-Kate (de serie en KDE) <a href="http://kate.kde.org/" title="kate.kde.org/" rel="nofollow">kate.kde.org/</a><br />
-MySQL Workbench. <a href="http://dev.mysql.com/downloads/workbench/1.0.html" title="dev.mysql.com/downloads/workbench/1.0.html" rel="nofollow">dev.mysql.com/downloads/workbench/1.0.html</a><br />
-Plugin de busqueda de documentacion oficial de PHP en Firefox <a href="http://mycroft.mozdev.org/update.php/id0/phpfuncs-es.{src,gif}" title="mycroft.mozdev.org/update.php/id0/phpfuncs-es.{src,gif}" rel="nofollow">mycroft.mozdev.org/update.php/id0/phpfuncs-es.{src,gif}</a><br />
- Extension HTML VALIDATOR para Firefox <a href="http://users.skynet.be/mgueury/mozilla/" title="users.skynet.be/mgueury/mozilla/" rel="nofollow">users.skynet.be/mgueury/mozilla/</a></p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>Stolz</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<meneame:comment_id>45859</meneame:comment_id>
		<meneame:link_id>16446</meneame:link_id>
		<meneame:order>2</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>Jason_v</meneame:user>
		<meneame:votes>0</meneame:votes>
		<meneame:karma>19</meneame:karma>
		<meneame:url>https://www.meneame.net/story/indispensables-para-programar-php</meneame:url>
		<title>#2 Indispensables para programar PHP</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/indispensables-para-programar-php/c02#c-2</link>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 May 2006 20:36:48 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Jason_v</dc:creator>
		<guid>https://www.meneame.net/story/indispensables-para-programar-php/c02#c-2</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[<p>Le daremos buen uso <img data-src="https://cdn.mnmstatic.net/v_149/img/menemojis/36/smiley.png" alt=":-)" title=":-)" width="18" height="18" src="https://cdn.mnmstatic.net/v_149/img/g.gif" class="emoji lazy" /></p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>Jason_v</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<meneame:comment_id>45850</meneame:comment_id>
		<meneame:link_id>16446</meneame:link_id>
		<meneame:order>1</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>--2873--</meneame:user>
		<meneame:votes>0</meneame:votes>
		<meneame:karma>8</meneame:karma>
		<meneame:url>https://www.meneame.net/story/indispensables-para-programar-php</meneame:url>
		<title>#1 Indispensables para programar PHP</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/indispensables-para-programar-php/c01#c-1</link>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 May 2006 20:22:36 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>--2873--</dc:creator>
		<guid>https://www.meneame.net/story/indispensables-para-programar-php/c01#c-1</guid>
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