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		<meneame:comment_id>692235</meneame:comment_id>
		<meneame:link_id>161180</meneame:link_id>
		<meneame:order>21</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>trinube</meneame:user>
		<meneame:votes>0</meneame:votes>
		<meneame:karma>6</meneame:karma>
		<meneame:url>https://www.meneame.net/story/el-puzzle-imposible</meneame:url>
		<title>#21 El puzzle imposible</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/el-puzzle-imposible/c021#c-21</link>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Jun 2007 20:46:40 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>trinube</dc:creator>
		<guid>https://www.meneame.net/story/el-puzzle-imposible/c021#c-21</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[<p>SrFloppy tengo tu imagen puesta de fondo de pantalla. Eres un máquina! Sin palabras...</p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>trinube</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<meneame:comment_id>691913</meneame:comment_id>
		<meneame:link_id>161180</meneame:link_id>
		<meneame:order>20</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>--23796--</meneame:user>
		<meneame:votes>0</meneame:votes>
		<meneame:karma>6</meneame:karma>
		<meneame:url>https://www.meneame.net/story/el-puzzle-imposible</meneame:url>
		<title>#20 El puzzle imposible</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/el-puzzle-imposible/c020#c-20</link>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Jun 2007 19:00:38 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>--23796--</dc:creator>
		<guid>https://www.meneame.net/story/el-puzzle-imposible/c020#c-20</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://img502.imageshack.us/img502/7933/dibujolo8.jpg" title="img502.imageshack.us/img502/7933/dibujolo8.jpg" rel="nofollow">img502.imageshack.us/img502/7933/dibujolo8.jpg</a><br />
Para nada es imposible.<br />
Solo tienes k aprovecharte de los fallos del flash en la gestion de eventos del ratón.</p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>--23796--</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<meneame:comment_id>688959</meneame:comment_id>
		<meneame:link_id>161180</meneame:link_id>
		<meneame:order>19</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>--4337--</meneame:user>
		<meneame:votes>0</meneame:votes>
		<meneame:karma>8</meneame:karma>
		<meneame:url>https://www.meneame.net/story/el-puzzle-imposible</meneame:url>
		<title>#19 El puzzle imposible</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/el-puzzle-imposible/c019#c-19</link>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Jun 2007 22:21:32 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>--4337--</dc:creator>
		<guid>https://www.meneame.net/story/el-puzzle-imposible/c019#c-19</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[<p>Primero de carrera. Matemática discreta. Grafos. Definición de grafo planar: Grafo que no contiene ni a K5 (grafo completo de 5 vértices) ni al C3,3 (grafo bipartito completo con tes vértices a cada lado) ni un subconjunto como los anteriores.</p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>--4337--</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<meneame:comment_id>688944</meneame:comment_id>
		<meneame:link_id>161180</meneame:link_id>
		<meneame:order>18</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>trinube</meneame:user>
		<meneame:votes>0</meneame:votes>
		<meneame:karma>6</meneame:karma>
		<meneame:url>https://www.meneame.net/story/el-puzzle-imposible</meneame:url>
		<title>#18 El puzzle imposible</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/el-puzzle-imposible/c018#c-18</link>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Jun 2007 22:15:28 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>trinube</dc:creator>
		<guid>https://www.meneame.net/story/el-puzzle-imposible/c018#c-18</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[<p>jajaja, ya veis que es imposible! qué mal qué mal... <br />
Gracias por colaborar, ha sido mi primera noticia y me ha dado mucho ánimo que os haya interesado. Intentaré buscar más cosillas graciosas! :o)<br />
<br />
PD: llamaré a TIDOOOOOOOOS VENTIDOOOOOOSSS, jajajaja</p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>trinube</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<meneame:comment_id>688300</meneame:comment_id>
		<meneame:link_id>161180</meneame:link_id>
		<meneame:order>17</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>--8573--</meneame:user>
		<meneame:votes>0</meneame:votes>
		<meneame:karma>7</meneame:karma>
		<meneame:url>https://www.meneame.net/story/el-puzzle-imposible</meneame:url>
		<title>#17 El puzzle imposible</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/el-puzzle-imposible/c017#c-17</link>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Jun 2007 18:43:50 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>--8573--</dc:creator>
		<guid>https://www.meneame.net/story/el-puzzle-imposible/c017#c-17</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[<p>Vale, en un plano no puede ser.</p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>--8573--</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<meneame:comment_id>688274</meneame:comment_id>
		<meneame:link_id>161180</meneame:link_id>
		<meneame:order>16</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>--8573--</meneame:user>
		<meneame:votes>0</meneame:votes>
		<meneame:karma>7</meneame:karma>
		<meneame:url>https://www.meneame.net/story/el-puzzle-imposible</meneame:url>
		<title>#16 El puzzle imposible</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/el-puzzle-imposible/c016#c-16</link>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Jun 2007 18:33:22 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>--8573--</dc:creator>
		<guid>https://www.meneame.net/story/el-puzzle-imposible/c016#c-16</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[<p>Mierda, como odio estos juegos... !!!!!!</p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>--8573--</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<meneame:comment_id>688252</meneame:comment_id>
		<meneame:link_id>161180</meneame:link_id>
		<meneame:order>15</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>--8573--</meneame:user>
		<meneame:votes>0</meneame:votes>
		<meneame:karma>7</meneame:karma>
		<meneame:url>https://www.meneame.net/story/el-puzzle-imposible</meneame:url>
		<title>#15 El puzzle imposible</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/el-puzzle-imposible/c015#c-15</link>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Jun 2007 18:25:30 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>--8573--</dc:creator>
		<guid>https://www.meneame.net/story/el-puzzle-imposible/c015#c-15</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[<p>Creo que sí, pero voy a dibujarlo con colores porque con el touchpad me es imposible.</p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>--8573--</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<meneame:comment_id>688226</meneame:comment_id>
		<meneame:link_id>161180</meneame:link_id>
		<meneame:order>14</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>--8573--</meneame:user>
		<meneame:votes>0</meneame:votes>
		<meneame:karma>7</meneame:karma>
		<meneame:url>https://www.meneame.net/story/el-puzzle-imposible</meneame:url>
		<title>#14 El puzzle imposible</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/el-puzzle-imposible/c014#c-14</link>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Jun 2007 18:18:14 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>--8573--</dc:creator>
		<guid>https://www.meneame.net/story/el-puzzle-imposible/c014#c-14</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[<p>Creo que lo tengo en papel, pero es muy jodido para dibujar, voy a intentarlo y lo subo.</p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>--8573--</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<meneame:comment_id>688167</meneame:comment_id>
		<meneame:link_id>161180</meneame:link_id>
		<meneame:order>13</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>andresrguez</meneame:user>
		<meneame:votes>2</meneame:votes>
		<meneame:karma>-17</meneame:karma>
		<meneame:url>https://www.meneame.net/story/el-puzzle-imposible</meneame:url>
		<title>#13 El puzzle imposible</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/el-puzzle-imposible/c013#c-13</link>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Jun 2007 18:02:26 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>andresrguez</dc:creator>
		<guid>https://www.meneame.net/story/el-puzzle-imposible/c013#c-13</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[<p>Esto solo lo puede solucionar...TIDOSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS VENTIDOSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS</p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>andresrguez</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<meneame:comment_id>688166</meneame:comment_id>
		<meneame:link_id>161180</meneame:link_id>
		<meneame:order>12</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>Gotnov</meneame:user>
		<meneame:votes>0</meneame:votes>
		<meneame:karma>6</meneame:karma>
		<meneame:url>https://www.meneame.net/story/el-puzzle-imposible</meneame:url>
		<title>#12 El puzzle imposible</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/el-puzzle-imposible/c012#c-12</link>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Jun 2007 18:02:08 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Gotnov</dc:creator>
		<guid>https://www.meneame.net/story/el-puzzle-imposible/c012#c-12</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[<p><a class="tooltip c:161180-6" href="https://www.meneame.net/story/el-puzzle-imposible/c06#c-6" rel="nofollow">#6</a>, <a class="tooltip c:161180-11" href="https://www.meneame.net/story/el-puzzle-imposible/c011#c-11" rel="nofollow">#11</a>, a mi no me la dais <img data-src="https://cdn.mnmstatic.net/v_149/img/menemojis/36/lol.gif" alt="xD" title=":lol: xD" width="18" height="18" src="https://cdn.mnmstatic.net/v_149/img/g.gif" class="emoji lazy" /></p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>Gotnov</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<meneame:comment_id>688161</meneame:comment_id>
		<meneame:link_id>161180</meneame:link_id>
		<meneame:order>11</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>--490--</meneame:user>
		<meneame:votes>1</meneame:votes>
		<meneame:karma>-8</meneame:karma>
		<meneame:url>https://www.meneame.net/story/el-puzzle-imposible</meneame:url>
		<title>#11 El puzzle imposible</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/el-puzzle-imposible/c011#c-11</link>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Jun 2007 18:00:23 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>--490--</dc:creator>
		<guid>https://www.meneame.net/story/el-puzzle-imposible/c011#c-11</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[<p><a class="tooltip c:161180-6" href="https://www.meneame.net/story/el-puzzle-imposible/c06#c-6" rel="nofollow">#6</a> Has fastidiado la broma <img data-src="https://cdn.mnmstatic.net/v_149/img/menemojis/36/smiley.png" alt=":-)" title=":-)" width="18" height="18" src="https://cdn.mnmstatic.net/v_149/img/g.gif" class="emoji lazy" /></p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>--490--</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<meneame:comment_id>688130</meneame:comment_id>
		<meneame:link_id>161180</meneame:link_id>
		<meneame:order>10</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>--30843--</meneame:user>
		<meneame:votes>0</meneame:votes>
		<meneame:karma>8</meneame:karma>
		<meneame:url>https://www.meneame.net/story/el-puzzle-imposible</meneame:url>
		<title>#10 El puzzle imposible</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/el-puzzle-imposible/c010#c-10</link>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Jun 2007 17:50:42 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>--30843--</dc:creator>
		<guid>https://www.meneame.net/story/el-puzzle-imposible/c010#c-10</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[<p>duplicado, ya salio...</p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>--30843--</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<meneame:comment_id>688129</meneame:comment_id>
		<meneame:link_id>161180</meneame:link_id>
		<meneame:order>9</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>Anaxacoras</meneame:user>
		<meneame:votes>0</meneame:votes>
		<meneame:karma>6</meneame:karma>
		<meneame:url>https://www.meneame.net/story/el-puzzle-imposible</meneame:url>
		<title>#9 El puzzle imposible</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/el-puzzle-imposible/c09#c-9</link>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Jun 2007 17:50:40 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Anaxacoras</dc:creator>
		<guid>https://www.meneame.net/story/el-puzzle-imposible/c09#c-9</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[<p>Bueno, dejemos en paz al Sr. Euler con sus grafos, (que no dan solución al problema), y a Mr Klein con su botella, que yo creo que cuando la &#34;diseñó&#34; estaba llena de Orujo, y asi salió la historia. Pero si que si &#34;miras&#34; al otro &#34;lado&#34; de la Cinta de marras, tienes la solución.</p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>Anaxacoras</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<meneame:comment_id>688127</meneame:comment_id>
		<meneame:link_id>161180</meneame:link_id>
		<meneame:order>8</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>.hF</meneame:user>
		<meneame:votes>0</meneame:votes>
		<meneame:karma>12</meneame:karma>
		<meneame:url>https://www.meneame.net/story/el-puzzle-imposible</meneame:url>
		<title>#8 El puzzle imposible</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/el-puzzle-imposible/c08#c-8</link>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Jun 2007 17:50:02 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>.hF</dc:creator>
		<guid>https://www.meneame.net/story/el-puzzle-imposible/c08#c-8</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[<p>editado</p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>.hF</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<meneame:comment_id>688122</meneame:comment_id>
		<meneame:link_id>161180</meneame:link_id>
		<meneame:order>7</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>juancampos</meneame:user>
		<meneame:votes>0</meneame:votes>
		<meneame:karma>6</meneame:karma>
		<meneame:url>https://www.meneame.net/story/el-puzzle-imposible</meneame:url>
		<title>#7 El puzzle imposible</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/el-puzzle-imposible/c07#c-7</link>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Jun 2007 17:48:53 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>juancampos</dc:creator>
		<guid>https://www.meneame.net/story/el-puzzle-imposible/c07#c-7</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[<p>Divertido y meneado.</p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>juancampos</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<meneame:comment_id>688114</meneame:comment_id>
		<meneame:link_id>161180</meneame:link_id>
		<meneame:order>6</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>--490--</meneame:user>
		<meneame:votes>0</meneame:votes>
		<meneame:karma>5</meneame:karma>
		<meneame:url>https://www.meneame.net/story/el-puzzle-imposible</meneame:url>
		<title>#6 El puzzle imposible</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/el-puzzle-imposible/c06#c-6</link>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Jun 2007 17:46:47 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>--490--</dc:creator>
		<guid>https://www.meneame.net/story/el-puzzle-imposible/c06#c-6</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[<p>No es imposible prueba dando un rodeo <img data-src="https://cdn.mnmstatic.net/v_149/img/menemojis/36/wink.png" alt=";)" title=";)" width="18" height="18" src="https://cdn.mnmstatic.net/v_149/img/g.gif" class="emoji lazy" /></p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>--490--</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<meneame:comment_id>688097</meneame:comment_id>
		<meneame:link_id>161180</meneame:link_id>
		<meneame:order>5</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>--8573--</meneame:user>
		<meneame:votes>0</meneame:votes>
		<meneame:karma>7</meneame:karma>
		<meneame:url>https://www.meneame.net/story/el-puzzle-imposible</meneame:url>
		<title>#5 El puzzle imposible</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/el-puzzle-imposible/c05#c-5</link>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Jun 2007 17:42:53 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>--8573--</dc:creator>
		<guid>https://www.meneame.net/story/el-puzzle-imposible/c05#c-5</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[<p>Creía que lo tenía... pero no.</p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>--8573--</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<meneame:comment_id>688085</meneame:comment_id>
		<meneame:link_id>161180</meneame:link_id>
		<meneame:order>4</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>marslain</meneame:user>
		<meneame:votes>2</meneame:votes>
		<meneame:karma>6</meneame:karma>
		<meneame:url>https://www.meneame.net/story/el-puzzle-imposible</meneame:url>
		<title>#4 El puzzle imposible</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/el-puzzle-imposible/c04#c-4</link>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Jun 2007 17:40:06 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>marslain</dc:creator>
		<guid>https://www.meneame.net/story/el-puzzle-imposible/c04#c-4</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[<p>Si fuese factible, tendríamos un grafo plano (sin cruces) con 6 vértices (3 casas y 3 fuentes) y 9 aristas (cada casa estaría unida con cada una de las tres fuentes. Este grafo puede interpretarse como el desarrollo de un poliedro, una de cuyas caras sería la región infinita que rodea a todo el conjunto. Podemos aplicarle entonces el Teorema de Euler para poliedros, Caras + Vértices = Aristas + 2, lo que en este caso da C=A - V + 2= 9 - 6 + 2 = 5 caras, o regiones, limitadas por las diferentes conducciones. Pero cada una de las regiones debe estar limitada por al menos 4 aristas, pues las casas no se conectan directamente, ni tampoco las fuentes. Como cada arista separa dos caras, necesitaríamos un mínimo de 5·4/2=10 aristas, pero ¡sólo hay 9! Por tanto el grafo no puede ser plano (sin cruces)<br />
<br />
Autor de este texto: Ignacio Larrosa Cañestro</p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>marslain</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<meneame:comment_id>688081</meneame:comment_id>
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		<meneame:order>3</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>.hF</meneame:user>
		<meneame:votes>0</meneame:votes>
		<meneame:karma>12</meneame:karma>
		<meneame:url>https://www.meneame.net/story/el-puzzle-imposible</meneame:url>
		<title>#3 El puzzle imposible</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/el-puzzle-imposible/c03#c-3</link>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Jun 2007 17:39:32 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>.hF</dc:creator>
		<guid>https://www.meneame.net/story/el-puzzle-imposible/c03#c-3</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[<p>Duplicada: <a href="http://meneame.net/story/posible-descifrar-este-juego" title="meneame.net/story/posible-descifrar-este-juego" rel="nofollow">meneame.net/story/posible-descifrar-este-juego</a><br />
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<a class="tooltip c:161180-1" href="https://www.meneame.net/story/el-puzzle-imposible/c01#c-1" rel="nofollow">#1</a> No hace falta que sea de Moebius, con una cinta normal también se resuelve. En realidad vale cualquier superficie curva y cerrada. Otras formas son utilizar el dorso de la hoja o hacer un agujero.</p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>.hF</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<meneame:comment_id>688064</meneame:comment_id>
		<meneame:link_id>161180</meneame:link_id>
		<meneame:order>2</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>nuberu</meneame:user>
		<meneame:votes>0</meneame:votes>
		<meneame:karma>11</meneame:karma>
		<meneame:url>https://www.meneame.net/story/el-puzzle-imposible</meneame:url>
		<title>#2 El puzzle imposible</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/el-puzzle-imposible/c02#c-2</link>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Jun 2007 17:35:52 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>nuberu</dc:creator>
		<guid>https://www.meneame.net/story/el-puzzle-imposible/c02#c-2</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[<p>No sigas, es muy antigüo y es imposible. De este tipo hay unos cuantos, como el de los 7 puentes</p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>nuberu</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<meneame:comment_id>688058</meneame:comment_id>
		<meneame:link_id>161180</meneame:link_id>
		<meneame:order>1</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>Anaxacoras</meneame:user>
		<meneame:votes>0</meneame:votes>
		<meneame:karma>6</meneame:karma>
		<meneame:url>https://www.meneame.net/story/el-puzzle-imposible</meneame:url>
		<title>#1 El puzzle imposible</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/el-puzzle-imposible/c01#c-1</link>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Jun 2007 17:35:18 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Anaxacoras</dc:creator>
		<guid>https://www.meneame.net/story/el-puzzle-imposible/c01#c-1</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[<p>Si, es imposible, en el Universo en que nos movemos....pero....intentalo con la Cinta de Moebius.Un profesor de Matemáticas que tenía a los 10 años me lo puso como problema, era lo mismo, pero eran pozos y cada uno tenía que dar servicio a las 3 casas, sin cruzarse. Lo conseguí a los 19 en la Uni.</p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>Anaxacoras</strong></p>]]></description>
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