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		<meneame:comment_id>10298593</meneame:comment_id>
		<meneame:link_id>1557761</meneame:link_id>
		<meneame:order>10</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>--46835--</meneame:user>
		<meneame:votes>1</meneame:votes>
		<meneame:karma>20</meneame:karma>
		<meneame:url>https://www.meneame.net/story/motor-revolucionario-aire-comprimido-coche</meneame:url>
		<title>#10 Motor revolucionario de aire comprimido para coche</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/motor-revolucionario-aire-comprimido-coche/c010#c-10</link>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Mar 2012 21:58:44 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>--46835--</dc:creator>
		<guid>https://www.meneame.net/story/motor-revolucionario-aire-comprimido-coche/c010#c-10</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[<p><a class="tooltip c:1557761-8" href="https://www.meneame.net/story/motor-revolucionario-aire-comprimido-coche/c08#c-8" rel="nofollow">#8</a> es algo relativo, de hecho sistemas regenerativos neumáticos llevan existiendo bastante tiempo(no para el avance del vehículo sino para sistemas auxiliares).<br />
El aire comprimido se usaba/usa en maquinaría pesada que no necesita potencia eléctrica, con un ahorro de peso brutal. Por poner un ejemplo los starter de volquetes, excavadoras y demás suele ser a aire comprimido por la sencilla razón de que si se estropea una persona puede cambiarlo, la comparación del peso de un motor de 50 kw eléctrico, de menos de 50 kilos, raro; y a aire comprimido, por 15 kilos, hace que se desestime el motor eléctrico por que necesitas una grúa para poner un recambio( <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SYa8Ey5uPOQ" title="www.youtube.com/watch?v=SYa8Ey5uPOQ" rel="nofollow">www.youtube.com/watch?v=SYa8Ey5uPOQ</a>), luego está la velocidad de carga, llenar depósitos con las inercias de algo de de 50 toneladas y más de 1.000 cv es algo asumible, se puede usar como freno sin problemas graves de recalentamiento, para las baterías es un castigo brutal y lo de antes, un recambio inmanejable.<br />
No se usa en vehículos de calle por que la potencia eléctrica de un vehículo es asumible por una batería y pocos elementos auxiliares usan neumática(los camiones y autobuses la amortiguación y los frenos, pero la normativa impide usar sistemas de recarga inerciales, van directos a fuerza de motor, aunque sí se usaba).</p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>--46835--</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<meneame:comment_id>10298376</meneame:comment_id>
		<meneame:link_id>1557761</meneame:link_id>
		<meneame:order>9</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>sebiyorum</meneame:user>
		<meneame:votes>0</meneame:votes>
		<meneame:karma>9</meneame:karma>
		<meneame:url>https://www.meneame.net/story/motor-revolucionario-aire-comprimido-coche</meneame:url>
		<title>#9 Motor revolucionario de aire comprimido para coche</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/motor-revolucionario-aire-comprimido-coche/c09#c-9</link>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Mar 2012 21:16:18 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>sebiyorum</dc:creator>
		<guid>https://www.meneame.net/story/motor-revolucionario-aire-comprimido-coche/c09#c-9</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[<p>ya vereis cuanto tarda GM en hacer desaparacer la patente, hacer una campaña para desprestigiar a TATA, o similar.<br />
<br />
Señores, mientras manden quien manda en el mundo, no habrá salida real a las energias alternativas, si no, mirad en España y su hundimiento de las energias renovables, bajo la presión de las petroleras.</p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>sebiyorum</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<meneame:comment_id>10298096</meneame:comment_id>
		<meneame:link_id>1557761</meneame:link_id>
		<meneame:order>8</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>Macmey</meneame:user>
		<meneame:votes>0</meneame:votes>
		<meneame:karma>7</meneame:karma>
		<meneame:url>https://www.meneame.net/story/motor-revolucionario-aire-comprimido-coche</meneame:url>
		<title>#8 Motor revolucionario de aire comprimido para coche</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/motor-revolucionario-aire-comprimido-coche/c08#c-8</link>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Mar 2012 20:26:11 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Macmey</dc:creator>
		<guid>https://www.meneame.net/story/motor-revolucionario-aire-comprimido-coche/c08#c-8</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[<p>Comprimir aire sale mas caro que cargar baterias ... no le veo mucho futuro al invento.</p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>Macmey</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<meneame:comment_id>10297438</meneame:comment_id>
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		<meneame:order>7</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>ogrydc</meneame:user>
		<meneame:votes>2</meneame:votes>
		<meneame:karma>30</meneame:karma>
		<meneame:url>https://www.meneame.net/story/motor-revolucionario-aire-comprimido-coche</meneame:url>
		<title>#7 Motor revolucionario de aire comprimido para coche</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/motor-revolucionario-aire-comprimido-coche/c07#c-7</link>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Mar 2012 18:21:03 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>ogrydc</dc:creator>
		<guid>https://www.meneame.net/story/motor-revolucionario-aire-comprimido-coche/c07#c-7</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[<p><a class="tooltip c:1557761-4" href="https://www.meneame.net/story/motor-revolucionario-aire-comprimido-coche/c04#c-4" rel="nofollow">#4</a> ¿Fabada? Por lo del aire a presión...</p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>ogrydc</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<meneame:comment_id>10297405</meneame:comment_id>
		<meneame:link_id>1557761</meneame:link_id>
		<meneame:order>6</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>DrXoomg</meneame:user>
		<meneame:votes>1</meneame:votes>
		<meneame:karma>26</meneame:karma>
		<meneame:url>https://www.meneame.net/story/motor-revolucionario-aire-comprimido-coche</meneame:url>
		<title>#6 Motor revolucionario de aire comprimido para coche</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/motor-revolucionario-aire-comprimido-coche/c06#c-6</link>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Mar 2012 18:15:41 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>DrXoomg</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://www.meneame.net/story/motores-aire-comprimido-para-coches" title="www.meneame.net/story/motores-aire-comprimido-para-coches" rel="nofollow">www.meneame.net/story/motores-aire-comprimido-para-coches</a><br />
<br />
Aunque no existe la web... <img data-src="https://cdn.mnmstatic.net/v_149/img/menemojis/36/tongue.png" alt=":-P" title=":-P" width="18" height="18" src="https://cdn.mnmstatic.net/v_149/img/g.gif" class="emoji lazy" /></p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>DrXoomg</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<meneame:comment_id>10297380</meneame:comment_id>
		<meneame:link_id>1557761</meneame:link_id>
		<meneame:order>5</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>pmg1</meneame:user>
		<meneame:votes>3</meneame:votes>
		<meneame:karma>44</meneame:karma>
		<meneame:url>https://www.meneame.net/story/motor-revolucionario-aire-comprimido-coche</meneame:url>
		<title>#5 Motor revolucionario de aire comprimido para coche</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/motor-revolucionario-aire-comprimido-coche/c05#c-5</link>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Mar 2012 18:11:51 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>pmg1</dc:creator>
		<guid>https://www.meneame.net/story/motor-revolucionario-aire-comprimido-coche/c05#c-5</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://www.meneame.net/story/vehiculo-impulsado-aire-comprimido-toyota-alcanza-129-km-h-ing" title="www.meneame.net/story/vehiculo-impulsado-aire-comprimido-toyota-alcanza-129-km-h-ing" rel="nofollow">www.meneame.net/story/vehiculo-impulsado-aire-comprimido-toyota-alcanz</a><br />
<a href="http://www.meneame.net/story/mdi-air-car-aire-comprimido-como-combustible" title="www.meneame.net/story/mdi-air-car-aire-comprimido-como-combustible" rel="nofollow">www.meneame.net/story/mdi-air-car-aire-comprimido-como-combustible</a><br />
<a href="http://www.meneame.net/story/airpod-coche-motor-aire-comprimido-eng" title="www.meneame.net/story/airpod-coche-motor-aire-comprimido-eng" rel="nofollow">www.meneame.net/story/airpod-coche-motor-aire-comprimido-eng</a><br />
<a href="http://www.meneame.net/story/he-llamado-air-car-factories-empresa-iba-comercializar-coche" title="www.meneame.net/story/he-llamado-air-car-factories-empresa-iba-comercializar-coche" rel="nofollow">www.meneame.net/story/he-llamado-air-car-factories-empresa-iba-comerci</a><br />
<a href="http://www.meneame.net/story/un-coche-propulsado-por-aire" title="www.meneame.net/story/un-coche-propulsado-por-aire" rel="nofollow">www.meneame.net/story/un-coche-propulsado-por-aire</a></p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>pmg1</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<meneame:comment_id>10297355</meneame:comment_id>
		<meneame:link_id>1557761</meneame:link_id>
		<meneame:order>4</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>musplus</meneame:user>
		<meneame:votes>0</meneame:votes>
		<meneame:karma>8</meneame:karma>
		<meneame:url>https://www.meneame.net/story/motor-revolucionario-aire-comprimido-coche</meneame:url>
		<title>#4 Motor revolucionario de aire comprimido para coche</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/motor-revolucionario-aire-comprimido-coche/c04#c-4</link>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Mar 2012 18:08:26 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>musplus</dc:creator>
		<guid>https://www.meneame.net/story/motor-revolucionario-aire-comprimido-coche/c04#c-4</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[<p>los politicos que van a poner ahora como dietass..¿?</p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>musplus</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<meneame:comment_id>10297353</meneame:comment_id>
		<meneame:link_id>1557761</meneame:link_id>
		<meneame:order>3</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>jomeinis</meneame:user>
		<meneame:votes>0</meneame:votes>
		<meneame:karma>9</meneame:karma>
		<meneame:url>https://www.meneame.net/story/motor-revolucionario-aire-comprimido-coche</meneame:url>
		<title>#3 Motor revolucionario de aire comprimido para coche</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/motor-revolucionario-aire-comprimido-coche/c03#c-3</link>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Mar 2012 18:08:06 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>jomeinis</dc:creator>
		<guid>https://www.meneame.net/story/motor-revolucionario-aire-comprimido-coche/c03#c-3</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[<p>Bueno, el aire se comprimirá mediante electricidad, es transportar el problema, aunque al menos no tienes un contaminador ambulante. Disparará plomillos?</p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>jomeinis</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<meneame:comment_id>10297338</meneame:comment_id>
		<meneame:link_id>1557761</meneame:link_id>
		<meneame:order>2</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>--61834--</meneame:user>
		<meneame:votes>0</meneame:votes>
		<meneame:karma>11</meneame:karma>
		<meneame:url>https://www.meneame.net/story/motor-revolucionario-aire-comprimido-coche</meneame:url>
		<title>#2 Motor revolucionario de aire comprimido para coche</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/motor-revolucionario-aire-comprimido-coche/c02#c-2</link>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Mar 2012 18:05:14 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>--61834--</dc:creator>
		<guid>https://www.meneame.net/story/motor-revolucionario-aire-comprimido-coche/c02#c-2</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[<p>[Usuario deshabilitado]</p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>--61834--</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<meneame:comment_id>10297319</meneame:comment_id>
		<meneame:link_id>1557761</meneame:link_id>
		<meneame:order>1</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>phillipe</meneame:user>
		<meneame:votes>0</meneame:votes>
		<meneame:karma>9</meneame:karma>
		<meneame:url>https://www.meneame.net/story/motor-revolucionario-aire-comprimido-coche</meneame:url>
		<title>#1 Motor revolucionario de aire comprimido para coche</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/motor-revolucionario-aire-comprimido-coche/c01#c-1</link>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Mar 2012 18:01:52 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>phillipe</dc:creator>
		<guid>https://www.meneame.net/story/motor-revolucionario-aire-comprimido-coche/c01#c-1</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[<p>Te imaginas dejarlo cargando con un compresor por la noche? put put put put put put put</p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>phillipe</strong></p>]]></description>
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