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		<meneame:comment_id>10008822</meneame:comment_id>
		<meneame:link_id>1513491</meneame:link_id>
		<meneame:order>13</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>jbartolo</meneame:user>
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		<meneame:url>https://www.meneame.net/story/renault-vende-electricos-precio-diesel</meneame:url>
		<title>#13 Renault vende eléctricos a precio de Diesel</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/renault-vende-electricos-precio-diesel/c013#c-13</link>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Jan 2012 15:53:28 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>jbartolo</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[<p><a class="tooltip c:1513491-6" href="https://www.meneame.net/story/renault-vende-electricos-precio-diesel/c06#c-6" rel="nofollow">#6</a> <i>Por ahora sólo sale rentable si haces al menos 20000 km anuales. Habrá que esperar a que bajen los precios de las baterías.</i><br />
... o a que suba el precio de la gasolina <img data-src="https://cdn.mnmstatic.net/v_149/img/menemojis/36/wink.png" alt=";)" title=";)" width="18" height="18" src="https://cdn.mnmstatic.net/v_149/img/g.gif" class="emoji lazy" /></p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>jbartolo</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<meneame:comment_id>10005299</meneame:comment_id>
		<meneame:link_id>1513491</meneame:link_id>
		<meneame:order>12</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>Fernando_Muñiz_Olalla</meneame:user>
		<meneame:votes>1</meneame:votes>
		<meneame:karma>13</meneame:karma>
		<meneame:url>https://www.meneame.net/story/renault-vende-electricos-precio-diesel</meneame:url>
		<title>#12 Renault vende eléctricos a precio de Diesel</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/renault-vende-electricos-precio-diesel/c012#c-12</link>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Jan 2012 19:53:55 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Fernando_Muñiz_Olalla</dc:creator>
		<guid>https://www.meneame.net/story/renault-vende-electricos-precio-diesel/c012#c-12</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[<p>Pues con tarifa supervalle, 0,055 € + iva. Si el Fluence tiene 22 kWh, recargarlo por completo 1,42 €. Si la autonomía real son 140 km (homologado 185 km), pues 1 €/100 km.</p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>Fernando_Muñiz_Olalla</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<meneame:comment_id>10005188</meneame:comment_id>
		<meneame:link_id>1513491</meneame:link_id>
		<meneame:order>11</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>bicho_visacoso</meneame:user>
		<meneame:votes>0</meneame:votes>
		<meneame:karma>6</meneame:karma>
		<meneame:url>https://www.meneame.net/story/renault-vende-electricos-precio-diesel</meneame:url>
		<title>#11 Renault vende eléctricos a precio de Diesel</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/renault-vende-electricos-precio-diesel/c011#c-11</link>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Jan 2012 19:32:55 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>bicho_visacoso</dc:creator>
		<guid>https://www.meneame.net/story/renault-vende-electricos-precio-diesel/c011#c-11</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[<p><a class="tooltip c:1513491-10" href="https://www.meneame.net/story/renault-vende-electricos-precio-diesel/c010#c-10" rel="nofollow">#10</a> ¿Y el coste del kW?</p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>bicho_visacoso</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<meneame:comment_id>10005150</meneame:comment_id>
		<meneame:link_id>1513491</meneame:link_id>
		<meneame:order>10</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>Fernando_Muñiz_Olalla</meneame:user>
		<meneame:votes>1</meneame:votes>
		<meneame:karma>13</meneame:karma>
		<meneame:url>https://www.meneame.net/story/renault-vende-electricos-precio-diesel</meneame:url>
		<title>#10 Renault vende eléctricos a precio de Diesel</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/renault-vende-electricos-precio-diesel/c010#c-10</link>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Jan 2012 19:24:29 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Fernando_Muñiz_Olalla</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[<p>Y la comparación con el DCI lo hice con estos precios de gasoil:<br />
<br />
2012 1,35 €/L<br />
2013 1,40 €/L<br />
2014 1,45 €/L<br />
2015 1,50 €/L<br />
2016 1,55 €/L<br />
<br />
En ese momento el euro no estaba tan débil con respecto al dolar, no existia embargo a Irán... visto lo visto, 1,55 €/L en 2016 podría ser una bendición.</p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>Fernando_Muñiz_Olalla</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<meneame:comment_id>10005121</meneame:comment_id>
		<meneame:link_id>1513491</meneame:link_id>
		<meneame:order>9</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>Fernando_Muñiz_Olalla</meneame:user>
		<meneame:votes>1</meneame:votes>
		<meneame:karma>13</meneame:karma>
		<meneame:url>https://www.meneame.net/story/renault-vende-electricos-precio-diesel</meneame:url>
		<title>#9 Renault vende eléctricos a precio de Diesel</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/renault-vende-electricos-precio-diesel/c09#c-9</link>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Jan 2012 19:18:03 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Fernando_Muñiz_Olalla</dc:creator>
		<guid>https://www.meneame.net/story/renault-vende-electricos-precio-diesel/c09#c-9</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[<p><a class="tooltip c:1513491-8" href="https://www.meneame.net/story/renault-vende-electricos-precio-diesel/c08#c-8" rel="nofollow">#8</a> A partir de 40.000 km cobran 5 € cada 100 km de alquiler, que con electricidad en horario nocturno se queda en 6 € cada 100 km. No es barato, pero si pueden ser 2 € menos cada 100 km que un Octavia o Prius. De todas formas, para hacer 60.000 km con un Fluence ZE al año, complicado. Eso sí, a finales de 2012 tendrá posibilidad de recarga rápida trifásica, asi que si se podrían hacer 200 km al dia (100 km por la mañana, 100 km por la tarde).</p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>Fernando_Muñiz_Olalla</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<meneame:comment_id>10003052</meneame:comment_id>
		<meneame:link_id>1513491</meneame:link_id>
		<meneame:order>8</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>bicho_visacoso</meneame:user>
		<meneame:votes>1</meneame:votes>
		<meneame:karma>13</meneame:karma>
		<meneame:url>https://www.meneame.net/story/renault-vende-electricos-precio-diesel</meneame:url>
		<title>#8 Renault vende eléctricos a precio de Diesel</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/renault-vende-electricos-precio-diesel/c08#c-8</link>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Jan 2012 14:24:54 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>bicho_visacoso</dc:creator>
		<guid>https://www.meneame.net/story/renault-vende-electricos-precio-diesel/c08#c-8</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[<p><a class="tooltip c:1513491-2" href="https://www.meneame.net/story/renault-vende-electricos-precio-diesel/c02#c-2" rel="nofollow">#2</a> <a class="tooltip c:1513491-5" href="https://www.meneame.net/story/renault-vende-electricos-precio-diesel/c05#c-5" rel="nofollow">#5</a> <a class="tooltip c:1513491-6" href="https://www.meneame.net/story/renault-vende-electricos-precio-diesel/c06#c-6" rel="nofollow">#6</a> Y hay límite de kilometros anuales (creo que eran unos 40.000 con un precio de alquiler de 188€/mes). Para evitar la tentación a taxistas supongo. No es oro todo lo que reluce.</p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>bicho_visacoso</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<meneame:comment_id>10002798</meneame:comment_id>
		<meneame:link_id>1513491</meneame:link_id>
		<meneame:order>7</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>perrico</meneame:user>
		<meneame:votes>0</meneame:votes>
		<meneame:karma>8</meneame:karma>
		<meneame:url>https://www.meneame.net/story/renault-vende-electricos-precio-diesel</meneame:url>
		<title>#7 Renault vende eléctricos a precio de Diesel</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/renault-vende-electricos-precio-diesel/c07#c-7</link>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Jan 2012 13:43:33 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>perrico</dc:creator>
		<guid>https://www.meneame.net/story/renault-vende-electricos-precio-diesel/c07#c-7</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[<p>Al final si lo usas bastante, te sale a cuenta.</p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>perrico</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<meneame:comment_id>10002792</meneame:comment_id>
		<meneame:link_id>1513491</meneame:link_id>
		<meneame:order>6</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>jesfalso</meneame:user>
		<meneame:votes>0</meneame:votes>
		<meneame:karma>6</meneame:karma>
		<meneame:url>https://www.meneame.net/story/renault-vende-electricos-precio-diesel</meneame:url>
		<title>#6 Renault vende eléctricos a precio de Diesel</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/renault-vende-electricos-precio-diesel/c06#c-6</link>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Jan 2012 13:42:56 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>jesfalso</dc:creator>
		<guid>https://www.meneame.net/story/renault-vende-electricos-precio-diesel/c06#c-6</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[<p><a class="tooltip c:1513491-2" href="https://www.meneame.net/story/renault-vende-electricos-precio-diesel/c02#c-2" rel="nofollow">#2</a> De todas maneras el precio de la batería incluye asistencia de las averías de motor y batería. Por ahora sólo sale rentable si haces al menos 20000 km anuales. Habrá que esperar a que bajen los precios de las baterías. <a href="http://www.forococheselectricos.com/2011/11/renault-hace-publicos-los-alquileres-de.html" title="www.forococheselectricos.com/2011/11/renault-hace-publicos-los-alquileres-de.html" rel="nofollow">www.forococheselectricos.com/2011/11/renault-hace-publicos-los-alquile</a></p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>jesfalso</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<meneame:comment_id>10002638</meneame:comment_id>
		<meneame:link_id>1513491</meneame:link_id>
		<meneame:order>5</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>--123923--</meneame:user>
		<meneame:votes>1</meneame:votes>
		<meneame:karma>27</meneame:karma>
		<meneame:url>https://www.meneame.net/story/renault-vende-electricos-precio-diesel</meneame:url>
		<title>#5 Renault vende eléctricos a precio de Diesel</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/renault-vende-electricos-precio-diesel/c05#c-5</link>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Jan 2012 13:25:30 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>--123923--</dc:creator>
		<guid>https://www.meneame.net/story/renault-vende-electricos-precio-diesel/c05#c-5</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[<p><a class="tooltip c:1513491-3" href="https://www.meneame.net/story/renault-vende-electricos-precio-diesel/c03#c-3" rel="nofollow">#3</a> Para un eléctrico aun es barato.</p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>--123923--</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<meneame:comment_id>10002585</meneame:comment_id>
		<meneame:link_id>1513491</meneame:link_id>
		<meneame:order>4</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>jbartolo</meneame:user>
		<meneame:votes>0</meneame:votes>
		<meneame:karma>7</meneame:karma>
		<meneame:url>https://www.meneame.net/story/renault-vende-electricos-precio-diesel</meneame:url>
		<title>#4 Renault vende eléctricos a precio de Diesel</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/renault-vende-electricos-precio-diesel/c04#c-4</link>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Jan 2012 13:19:49 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>jbartolo</dc:creator>
		<guid>https://www.meneame.net/story/renault-vende-electricos-precio-diesel/c04#c-4</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[<p>Edit</p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>jbartolo</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<meneame:comment_id>10002556</meneame:comment_id>
		<meneame:link_id>1513491</meneame:link_id>
		<meneame:order>3</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>Fasher</meneame:user>
		<meneame:votes>0</meneame:votes>
		<meneame:karma>7</meneame:karma>
		<meneame:url>https://www.meneame.net/story/renault-vende-electricos-precio-diesel</meneame:url>
		<title>#3 Renault vende eléctricos a precio de Diesel</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/renault-vende-electricos-precio-diesel/c03#c-3</link>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Jan 2012 13:16:56 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Fasher</dc:creator>
		<guid>https://www.meneame.net/story/renault-vende-electricos-precio-diesel/c03#c-3</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[<p><a class="tooltip c:1513491-2" href="https://www.meneame.net/story/renault-vende-electricos-precio-diesel/c02#c-2" rel="nofollow">#2</a> joder si eso es cierto, mas las recargas menuda guasa.....</p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>Fasher</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<meneame:comment_id>10002521</meneame:comment_id>
		<meneame:link_id>1513491</meneame:link_id>
		<meneame:order>2</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>--123923--</meneame:user>
		<meneame:votes>2</meneame:votes>
		<meneame:karma>35</meneame:karma>
		<meneame:url>https://www.meneame.net/story/renault-vende-electricos-precio-diesel</meneame:url>
		<title>#2 Renault vende eléctricos a precio de Diesel</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/renault-vende-electricos-precio-diesel/c02#c-2</link>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Jan 2012 13:13:40 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>--123923--</dc:creator>
		<guid>https://www.meneame.net/story/renault-vende-electricos-precio-diesel/c02#c-2</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[<p>Un detalle que hay que añadir es que las baterias no van incluidas en el precio, te las alquilan.<br />
<br />
82 euros al mes por 3 años que vienen a ser unos 3000 euros.</p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>--123923--</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<meneame:comment_id>10002411</meneame:comment_id>
		<meneame:link_id>1513491</meneame:link_id>
		<meneame:order>1</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>Catacroc</meneame:user>
		<meneame:votes>1</meneame:votes>
		<meneame:karma>17</meneame:karma>
		<meneame:url>https://www.meneame.net/story/renault-vende-electricos-precio-diesel</meneame:url>
		<title>#1 Renault vende eléctricos a precio de Diesel</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/renault-vende-electricos-precio-diesel/c01#c-1</link>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Jan 2012 13:01:21 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Catacroc</dc:creator>
		<guid>https://www.meneame.net/story/renault-vende-electricos-precio-diesel/c01#c-1</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[<p>Ahora empezamos a entendernos...</p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>Catacroc</strong></p>]]></description>
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