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		<meneame:comment_id>8343428</meneame:comment_id>
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		<meneame:order>15</meneame:order>
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		<meneame:url>https://www.meneame.net/story/merkel-2020-circulara-millon-coches-electricos-alemania</meneame:url>
		<title>#15 Merkel: en 2020 circulará un millón de coches eléctricos en Alemania</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/merkel-2020-circulara-millon-coches-electricos-alemania/c015#c-15</link>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 May 2011 16:33:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<guid>https://www.meneame.net/story/merkel-2020-circulara-millon-coches-electricos-alemania/c015#c-15</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[<p><a class="tooltip c:1258321-12" href="https://www.meneame.net/story/merkel-2020-circulara-millon-coches-electricos-alemania/c012#c-12" rel="nofollow">#12</a> por cierto, mira la nueva aventura de Audi y VW en investigación:<br />
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<a href="http://www.thelocal.de/money/20110513-35001.html" title="www.thelocal.de/money/20110513-35001.html" rel="nofollow">www.thelocal.de/money/20110513-35001.html</a><br />
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... esto se mueve <img data-src="https://cdn.mnmstatic.net/v_149/img/menemojis/36/grin.png" alt=":-D" title=":-D" width="18" height="18" src="https://cdn.mnmstatic.net/v_149/img/g.gif" class="emoji lazy" /></p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>--193382--</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<meneame:comment_id>8343411</meneame:comment_id>
		<meneame:link_id>1258321</meneame:link_id>
		<meneame:order>14</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>--193382--</meneame:user>
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		<meneame:karma>10</meneame:karma>
		<meneame:url>https://www.meneame.net/story/merkel-2020-circulara-millon-coches-electricos-alemania</meneame:url>
		<title>#14 Merkel: en 2020 circulará un millón de coches eléctricos en Alemania</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/merkel-2020-circulara-millon-coches-electricos-alemania/c014#c-14</link>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 May 2011 16:28:03 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>--193382--</dc:creator>
		<guid>https://www.meneame.net/story/merkel-2020-circulara-millon-coches-electricos-alemania/c014#c-14</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[<p><a class="tooltip c:1258321-6" href="https://www.meneame.net/story/merkel-2020-circulara-millon-coches-electricos-alemania/c06#c-6" rel="nofollow">#6</a> Siemens <br />
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...y en españa Abengoa (no lo sabía) <img data-src="https://cdn.mnmstatic.net/v_149/img/menemojis/36/wow.png" alt="o_o" title="o_o :wow:" width="18" height="18" src="https://cdn.mnmstatic.net/v_149/img/g.gif" class="emoji lazy" /><br />
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<a href="http://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pila_de_combustible" title="es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pila_de_combustible" rel="nofollow">es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pila_de_combustible</a><br />
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<a class="tooltip c:1258321-12" href="https://www.meneame.net/story/merkel-2020-circulara-millon-coches-electricos-alemania/c012#c-12" rel="nofollow">#12</a> <a href="http://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ley_de_oferta_y_demanda" title="es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ley_de_oferta_y_demanda" rel="nofollow">es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ley_de_oferta_y_demanda</a></p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>--193382--</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<meneame:comment_id>8340449</meneame:comment_id>
		<meneame:link_id>1258321</meneame:link_id>
		<meneame:order>13</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>--188054--</meneame:user>
		<meneame:votes>0</meneame:votes>
		<meneame:karma>11</meneame:karma>
		<meneame:url>https://www.meneame.net/story/merkel-2020-circulara-millon-coches-electricos-alemania</meneame:url>
		<title>#13 Merkel: en 2020 circulará un millón de coches eléctricos en Alemania</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/merkel-2020-circulara-millon-coches-electricos-alemania/c013#c-13</link>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 May 2011 21:58:56 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>--188054--</dc:creator>
		<guid>https://www.meneame.net/story/merkel-2020-circulara-millon-coches-electricos-alemania/c013#c-13</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[<p><a class="tooltip c:1258321-12" href="https://www.meneame.net/story/merkel-2020-circulara-millon-coches-electricos-alemania/c012#c-12" rel="nofollow">#12</a> Ahhh, vale. Me lié al leerlo <img data-src="https://cdn.mnmstatic.net/v_149/img/menemojis/36/tongue.png" alt=":-P" title=":-P" width="18" height="18" src="https://cdn.mnmstatic.net/v_149/img/g.gif" class="emoji lazy" /><br />
<br />
Igualmente, se puede reducir más. Es cuestión de que haya mercado para dedicar más fábricas.</p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>--188054--</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<meneame:comment_id>8340396</meneame:comment_id>
		<meneame:link_id>1258321</meneame:link_id>
		<meneame:order>12</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>--160642--</meneame:user>
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		<meneame:karma>7</meneame:karma>
		<meneame:url>https://www.meneame.net/story/merkel-2020-circulara-millon-coches-electricos-alemania</meneame:url>
		<title>#12 Merkel: en 2020 circulará un millón de coches eléctricos en Alemania</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/merkel-2020-circulara-millon-coches-electricos-alemania/c012#c-12</link>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 May 2011 21:45:45 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>--160642--</dc:creator>
		<guid>https://www.meneame.net/story/merkel-2020-circulara-millon-coches-electricos-alemania/c012#c-12</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[<p><a class="tooltip c:1258321-11" href="https://www.meneame.net/story/merkel-2020-circulara-millon-coches-electricos-alemania/c011#c-11" rel="nofollow">#11</a> ¿No leiste el enlace que tu enviastes? Antes costaban 1 millon y lo han reducido entre $ 120.000 y $ 140.000 por vehículo. No lo copié entero, lo que dice es que Honda hania recucido sus costes respecto al millon de antes.<br />
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Honda cost more than <strong>$1</strong> *million/ to build in 2005. Some estimated that Honda had cut its production costs to between $120,000 and $140,000 per vehicle</p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>--160642--</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<meneame:comment_id>8340371</meneame:comment_id>
		<meneame:link_id>1258321</meneame:link_id>
		<meneame:order>11</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>--188054--</meneame:user>
		<meneame:votes>0</meneame:votes>
		<meneame:karma>11</meneame:karma>
		<meneame:url>https://www.meneame.net/story/merkel-2020-circulara-millon-coches-electricos-alemania</meneame:url>
		<title>#11 Merkel: en 2020 circulará un millón de coches eléctricos en Alemania</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/merkel-2020-circulara-millon-coches-electricos-alemania/c011#c-11</link>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 May 2011 21:38:49 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>--188054--</dc:creator>
		<guid>https://www.meneame.net/story/merkel-2020-circulara-millon-coches-electricos-alemania/c011#c-11</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[<p><a class="tooltip c:1258321-9" href="https://www.meneame.net/story/merkel-2020-circulara-millon-coches-electricos-alemania/c09#c-9" rel="nofollow">#9</a> <em>había reducido sus costes de producción</em><br />
<br />
En pasado. Eso es que se puede reducir más <img data-src="https://cdn.mnmstatic.net/v_149/img/menemojis/36/tongue.png" alt=":-P" title=":-P" width="18" height="18" src="https://cdn.mnmstatic.net/v_149/img/g.gif" class="emoji lazy" /></p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>--188054--</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<meneame:comment_id>8340335</meneame:comment_id>
		<meneame:link_id>1258321</meneame:link_id>
		<meneame:order>10</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>--86202--</meneame:user>
		<meneame:votes>0</meneame:votes>
		<meneame:karma>6</meneame:karma>
		<meneame:url>https://www.meneame.net/story/merkel-2020-circulara-millon-coches-electricos-alemania</meneame:url>
		<title>#10 Merkel: en 2020 circulará un millón de coches eléctricos en Alemania</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/merkel-2020-circulara-millon-coches-electricos-alemania/c010#c-10</link>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 May 2011 21:27:16 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>--86202--</dc:creator>
		<guid>https://www.meneame.net/story/merkel-2020-circulara-millon-coches-electricos-alemania/c010#c-10</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[<p>Había leído el titular sin los dos puntos y me estaba volviendo todo loco. <img data-src="https://cdn.mnmstatic.net/v_149/img/menemojis/36/lol.gif" alt="xD" title=":lol: xD" width="18" height="18" src="https://cdn.mnmstatic.net/v_149/img/g.gif" class="emoji lazy" /></p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>--86202--</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<meneame:comment_id>8340326</meneame:comment_id>
		<meneame:link_id>1258321</meneame:link_id>
		<meneame:order>9</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>--160642--</meneame:user>
		<meneame:votes>0</meneame:votes>
		<meneame:karma>7</meneame:karma>
		<meneame:url>https://www.meneame.net/story/merkel-2020-circulara-millon-coches-electricos-alemania</meneame:url>
		<title>#9 Merkel: en 2020 circulará un millón de coches eléctricos en Alemania</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/merkel-2020-circulara-millon-coches-electricos-alemania/c09#c-9</link>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 May 2011 21:24:33 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>--160642--</dc:creator>
		<guid>https://www.meneame.net/story/merkel-2020-circulara-millon-coches-electricos-alemania/c09#c-9</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[<p><a class="tooltip c:1258321-7" href="https://www.meneame.net/story/merkel-2020-circulara-millon-coches-electricos-alemania/c07#c-7" rel="nofollow">#7</a> Si, pero: Algunos estima que Honda había reducido sus costes de producción de entre $ 120.000 y $ 140.000 por vehículo.<br />
Y eso solo los costes de producción.<br />
<br />
Pasa lo mismo que con los coches electricos de hace 30 años, que solo son de prueba en alquiler. &#34;pero los consumidores no están autorizados a comprar el vehículo, ya que aún está disponible sólo para el arrendamiento, y sólo en el sur de California, donde pública de repostaje de hidrógeno estaciones están disponibles.&#34;</p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>--160642--</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<meneame:comment_id>8340323</meneame:comment_id>
		<meneame:link_id>1258321</meneame:link_id>
		<meneame:order>8</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>Ripio</meneame:user>
		<meneame:votes>1</meneame:votes>
		<meneame:karma>21</meneame:karma>
		<meneame:url>https://www.meneame.net/story/merkel-2020-circulara-millon-coches-electricos-alemania</meneame:url>
		<title>#8 Merkel: en 2020 circulará un millón de coches eléctricos en Alemania</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/merkel-2020-circulara-millon-coches-electricos-alemania/c08#c-8</link>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 May 2011 21:23:52 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Ripio</dc:creator>
		<guid>https://www.meneame.net/story/merkel-2020-circulara-millon-coches-electricos-alemania/c08#c-8</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[<p>Y dos huevos duros.</p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>Ripio</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<meneame:comment_id>8340291</meneame:comment_id>
		<meneame:link_id>1258321</meneame:link_id>
		<meneame:order>7</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>--188054--</meneame:user>
		<meneame:votes>1</meneame:votes>
		<meneame:karma>18</meneame:karma>
		<meneame:url>https://www.meneame.net/story/merkel-2020-circulara-millon-coches-electricos-alemania</meneame:url>
		<title>#7 Merkel: en 2020 circulará un millón de coches eléctricos en Alemania</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/merkel-2020-circulara-millon-coches-electricos-alemania/c07#c-7</link>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 May 2011 21:15:45 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>--188054--</dc:creator>
		<guid>https://www.meneame.net/story/merkel-2020-circulara-millon-coches-electricos-alemania/c07#c-7</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[<p><a class="tooltip c:1258321-6" href="https://www.meneame.net/story/merkel-2020-circulara-millon-coches-electricos-alemania/c06#c-6" rel="nofollow">#6</a> Lo decía sobre todo por lo del litio y el neodimio.<br />
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Y parece que ya están:<br />
<a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FCX_Clarity" title="en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FCX_Clarity" rel="nofollow">en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FCX_Clarity</a><br />
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Autonomía de 400km.<br />
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La producción masiva dependerá, claro, de montar nuevas fábricas.</p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>--188054--</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<meneame:comment_id>8340249</meneame:comment_id>
		<meneame:link_id>1258321</meneame:link_id>
		<meneame:order>6</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>--160642--</meneame:user>
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		<meneame:karma>7</meneame:karma>
		<meneame:url>https://www.meneame.net/story/merkel-2020-circulara-millon-coches-electricos-alemania</meneame:url>
		<title>#6 Merkel: en 2020 circulará un millón de coches eléctricos en Alemania</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/merkel-2020-circulara-millon-coches-electricos-alemania/c06#c-6</link>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 May 2011 21:08:58 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>--160642--</dc:creator>
		<guid>https://www.meneame.net/story/merkel-2020-circulara-millon-coches-electricos-alemania/c06#c-6</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[<p><a class="tooltip c:1258321-5" href="https://www.meneame.net/story/merkel-2020-circulara-millon-coches-electricos-alemania/c05#c-5" rel="nofollow">#5</a> Y supongo que si mi abuela tubiera ruedas seria una moto. ¿Donde estan esas pilas de hidrogeno? (eficientes y manejables) ¿quien las fabrica?</p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>--160642--</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<meneame:comment_id>8340227</meneame:comment_id>
		<meneame:link_id>1258321</meneame:link_id>
		<meneame:order>5</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>--188054--</meneame:user>
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		<meneame:karma>11</meneame:karma>
		<meneame:url>https://www.meneame.net/story/merkel-2020-circulara-millon-coches-electricos-alemania</meneame:url>
		<title>#5 Merkel: en 2020 circulará un millón de coches eléctricos en Alemania</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/merkel-2020-circulara-millon-coches-electricos-alemania/c05#c-5</link>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 May 2011 21:03:18 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>--188054--</dc:creator>
		<guid>https://www.meneame.net/story/merkel-2020-circulara-millon-coches-electricos-alemania/c05#c-5</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[<p><a class="tooltip c:1258321-2" href="https://www.meneame.net/story/merkel-2020-circulara-millon-coches-electricos-alemania/c02#c-2" rel="nofollow">#2</a> <em>Supongo</em> que ya tendrán pilas de hidrógeno listas (i.e.: eficientes, manejables, y producidas masivamente).</p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>--188054--</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<meneame:comment_id>8340193</meneame:comment_id>
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		<meneame:order>4</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>FaithHydenCombs</meneame:user>
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		<meneame:karma>6</meneame:karma>
		<meneame:url>https://www.meneame.net/story/merkel-2020-circulara-millon-coches-electricos-alemania</meneame:url>
		<title>#4 Merkel: en 2020 circulará un millón de coches eléctricos en Alemania</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/merkel-2020-circulara-millon-coches-electricos-alemania/c04#c-4</link>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 May 2011 20:51:43 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>FaithHydenCombs</dc:creator>
		<guid>https://www.meneame.net/story/merkel-2020-circulara-millon-coches-electricos-alemania/c04#c-4</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[<p>Dentro de poco como los Supersonicos <img data-src="https://cdn.mnmstatic.net/v_149/img/menemojis/36/lol.gif" alt="xD" title=":lol: xD" width="18" height="18" src="https://cdn.mnmstatic.net/v_149/img/g.gif" class="emoji lazy" /></p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>FaithHydenCombs</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<meneame:comment_id>8340141</meneame:comment_id>
		<meneame:link_id>1258321</meneame:link_id>
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		<meneame:user>Mauro_Nacho</meneame:user>
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		<meneame:url>https://www.meneame.net/story/merkel-2020-circulara-millon-coches-electricos-alemania</meneame:url>
		<title>#3 Merkel: en 2020 circulará un millón de coches eléctricos en Alemania</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/merkel-2020-circulara-millon-coches-electricos-alemania/c03#c-3</link>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 May 2011 20:36:12 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Mauro_Nacho</dc:creator>
		<guid>https://www.meneame.net/story/merkel-2020-circulara-millon-coches-electricos-alemania/c03#c-3</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[<p><a class="tooltip c:1258321-2" href="https://www.meneame.net/story/merkel-2020-circulara-millon-coches-electricos-alemania/c02#c-2" rel="nofollow">#2</a> No es ninguna barbaridad. Pero además o se es ambicioso o no avanzamos. Además es cuestión de tomar la iniciativa y dominar el sector.</p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>Mauro_Nacho</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<meneame:comment_id>8340124</meneame:comment_id>
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		<meneame:order>2</meneame:order>
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		<title>#2 Merkel: en 2020 circulará un millón de coches eléctricos en Alemania</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/merkel-2020-circulara-millon-coches-electricos-alemania/c02#c-2</link>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 May 2011 20:29:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[<p>¿110.000 coches al año? No solo que es una fanfarronada politica, sino que no existen fábricas para fabricarlos. <img data-src="https://cdn.mnmstatic.net/v_149/img/menemojis/36/roll.gif" alt=":roll:" title=":roll:" width="18" height="18" src="https://cdn.mnmstatic.net/v_149/img/g.gif" class="emoji lazy" /><br />
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Boom de los precios del neodimio y del litio en 3, 2, 1.<br />
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No será mas bien que los coches electricos recorreran 1 millon de km en Alemania en el 2.020.</p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>--160642--</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<meneame:url>https://www.meneame.net/story/merkel-2020-circulara-millon-coches-electricos-alemania</meneame:url>
		<title>#1 Merkel: en 2020 circulará un millón de coches eléctricos en Alemania</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/merkel-2020-circulara-millon-coches-electricos-alemania/c01#c-1</link>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 May 2011 20:16:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[<p><strike><a href="/search?w=comments&#38;q=%23NosLlevanAñosDeVentaja&#38;o=date">#NosLlevanAñosDeVentaja</a></strike> <a href="/search?w=comments&#38;q=%23NosLlevaránAñosDeVentaja&#38;o=date">#NosLlevaránAñosDeVentaja</a> <img data-src="https://cdn.mnmstatic.net/v_149/img/menemojis/36/grin.png" alt=":-D" title=":-D" width="18" height="18" src="https://cdn.mnmstatic.net/v_149/img/g.gif" class="emoji lazy" /></p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>--188054--</strong></p>]]></description>
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