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		<meneame:order>35</meneame:order>
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		<title>#35 ¿Phoenix BIOS? No por favor.</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/phoenix-bios-no-por-favor/c035#c-35</link>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Apr 2007 09:41:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[<p>[Usuario deshabilitado]</p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>--29745--</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<meneame:comment_id>527847</meneame:comment_id>
		<meneame:link_id>124462</meneame:link_id>
		<meneame:order>34</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>niel</meneame:user>
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		<meneame:karma>6</meneame:karma>
		<meneame:url>https://www.meneame.net/story/phoenix-bios-no-por-favor</meneame:url>
		<title>#34 ¿Phoenix BIOS? No por favor.</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/phoenix-bios-no-por-favor/c034#c-34</link>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Apr 2007 00:52:57 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>niel</dc:creator>
		<guid>https://www.meneame.net/story/phoenix-bios-no-por-favor/c034#c-34</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[<p>Para los que dicen que es falso: <a class="tooltip c:124462-7" href="https://www.meneame.net/story/phoenix-bios-no-por-favor/c07#c-7" rel="nofollow">#7</a> <a class="tooltip c:124462-14" href="https://www.meneame.net/story/phoenix-bios-no-por-favor/c014#c-14" rel="nofollow">#14</a> <a class="tooltip c:124462-16" href="https://www.meneame.net/story/phoenix-bios-no-por-favor/c016#c-16" rel="nofollow">#16</a> <a class="tooltip c:124462-22" href="https://www.meneame.net/story/phoenix-bios-no-por-favor/c022#c-22" rel="nofollow">#22</a> <a class="tooltip c:124462-27" href="https://www.meneame.net/story/phoenix-bios-no-por-favor/c027#c-27" rel="nofollow">#27</a> <a class="tooltip c:124462-28" href="https://www.meneame.net/story/phoenix-bios-no-por-favor/c028#c-28" rel="nofollow">#28</a> <a class="tooltip c:124462-31" href="https://www.meneame.net/story/phoenix-bios-no-por-favor/c031#c-31" rel="nofollow">#31</a><br />
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¿Tenéis un Toshiba Satellite A130 a mano? Yendo a las descargas* de ese modelo y filtrando las BIOS salen 2 versiones, la 1.10 y la 1.20, pero <strong>sólo para Vista</strong> ¿dónde puedo encontrar la <em>supuestamente-original no-capada</em>?<br />
<br />
* <a href="http://www.csd.toshiba.com/cgi-bin/tais/su/su_sc_modItemList.jsp?moid=1633589&#38;ct=DL&#38;BV_SessionID=@@@@1753443486.1176511166@@@@&#38;BV_EngineID=cccjaddkimfheddcgfkceghdgngdgmm.0" title="www.csd.toshiba.com/cgi-bin/tais/su/su_sc_modItemList.jsp?moid=1633589&#38;ct=DL&#38;BV_SessionID=@@@@1753443486.1176511166@@@@&#38;BV_EngineID=cccjaddkimfheddcgfkceghdgngdgmm.0" rel="nofollow">www.csd.toshiba.com/cgi-bin/tais/su/su_sc_modItemList.jsp?moid=1633589</a><br />
<br />
Nota mental: antes de comprar un portátil, mirar en su web de descargas.</p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>niel</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<meneame:comment_id>527831</meneame:comment_id>
		<meneame:link_id>124462</meneame:link_id>
		<meneame:order>33</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>--10520--</meneame:user>
		<meneame:votes>0</meneame:votes>
		<meneame:karma>6</meneame:karma>
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		<title>#33 ¿Phoenix BIOS? No por favor.</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/phoenix-bios-no-por-favor/c033#c-33</link>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Apr 2007 00:37:24 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>--10520--</dc:creator>
		<guid>https://www.meneame.net/story/phoenix-bios-no-por-favor/c033#c-33</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[<p>[Usuario deshabilitado]</p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>--10520--</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<meneame:comment_id>527784</meneame:comment_id>
		<meneame:link_id>124462</meneame:link_id>
		<meneame:order>32</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>gnsks2006</meneame:user>
		<meneame:votes>1</meneame:votes>
		<meneame:karma>12</meneame:karma>
		<meneame:url>https://www.meneame.net/story/phoenix-bios-no-por-favor</meneame:url>
		<title>#32 ¿Phoenix BIOS? No por favor.</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/phoenix-bios-no-por-favor/c032#c-32</link>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Apr 2007 23:54:26 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>gnsks2006</dc:creator>
		<guid>https://www.meneame.net/story/phoenix-bios-no-por-favor/c032#c-32</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[<p>Sí, la Suse que tuve instalada en mi portátil Toshiba con BIOS Phoenix debía ser especial, porque arrancaba perfectamente. También veo que la gente sigue sin tener ni puñetera idea sobre qué es el TPM, y sobre cómo una herramienta es buena o mala según el uso que se le dé. Y pese a que se pegan enlaces, parece que nadie se los lee. Del de arriba de la wikipedia:<br />
<br />
The Linux kernel has included trusted computing support since version 2.6.13, and there are several projects to implement trusted computing for Linux. In January 2005, members of Gentoo Linux's &#34;crypto herd&#34; announced their intention of providing support for TC - in particular support for the Trusted Platform Module.[22] There is also a TCG-compliant software stack for Linux named TrouSerS, released under an open source license.<br />
<br />
Supongo que eso quiere decir que Linux también es el demonio, ¿no?. En fin, difama que algo queda.</p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>gnsks2006</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<meneame:comment_id>527164</meneame:comment_id>
		<meneame:link_id>124462</meneame:link_id>
		<meneame:order>31</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>planetPainter</meneame:user>
		<meneame:votes>1</meneame:votes>
		<meneame:karma>12</meneame:karma>
		<meneame:url>https://www.meneame.net/story/phoenix-bios-no-por-favor</meneame:url>
		<title>#31 ¿Phoenix BIOS? No por favor.</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/phoenix-bios-no-por-favor/c031#c-31</link>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Apr 2007 18:05:18 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>planetPainter</dc:creator>
		<guid>https://www.meneame.net/story/phoenix-bios-no-por-favor/c031#c-31</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[<p><em>This BIOS is ONLY for use with Windows Vista. Please do not install this BIOS for use with Windows XP, or other Windows versions.</em><br />
<br />
Mi inglés es un poco limitado pero creo que ahí dice que no la instales si quieres usar otro sistema que no sea Vista.<br />
<br />
Y continuamos con la semana del Fast-FUD anti-M$ en Menéame. A ver si dedicamos más tiempo a leernos las especificaciones técnicas de los productos y menos a leer demagogia barata.</p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>planetPainter</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<meneame:comment_id>526560</meneame:comment_id>
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		<meneame:order>30</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>ralph</meneame:user>
		<meneame:votes>2</meneame:votes>
		<meneame:karma>6</meneame:karma>
		<meneame:url>https://www.meneame.net/story/phoenix-bios-no-por-favor</meneame:url>
		<title>#30 ¿Phoenix BIOS? No por favor.</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/phoenix-bios-no-por-favor/c030#c-30</link>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Apr 2007 14:10:54 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>ralph</dc:creator>
		<guid>https://www.meneame.net/story/phoenix-bios-no-por-favor/c030#c-30</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[<p>&#34;Parece ser que este modelo de BIOS impide que se pueda arrancar cualquier otro sistema operativo que no sea Windows Vista&#34;<br />
<br />
Pues en la web de toshiba lo deja muy claro, por lo que de errónea nada...<br />
Y para los win talibanes... tampoco se puede instalar XP ni 2000 ni algo que no sea vista... <img data-src="https://cdn.mnmstatic.net/v_149/img/menemojis/36/tongue.png" alt=":-P" title=":-P" width="18" height="18" src="https://cdn.mnmstatic.net/v_149/img/g.gif" class="emoji lazy" /></p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>ralph</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<meneame:comment_id>526479</meneame:comment_id>
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		<meneame:order>29</meneame:order>
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		<meneame:url>https://www.meneame.net/story/phoenix-bios-no-por-favor</meneame:url>
		<title>#29 ¿Phoenix BIOS? No por favor.</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/phoenix-bios-no-por-favor/c029#c-29</link>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Apr 2007 13:43:30 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>--29745--</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[<p>[Usuario deshabilitado]</p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>--29745--</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<meneame:comment_id>526433</meneame:comment_id>
		<meneame:link_id>124462</meneame:link_id>
		<meneame:order>28</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>--14683--</meneame:user>
		<meneame:votes>4</meneame:votes>
		<meneame:karma>3</meneame:karma>
		<meneame:url>https://www.meneame.net/story/phoenix-bios-no-por-favor</meneame:url>
		<title>#28 ¿Phoenix BIOS? No por favor.</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/phoenix-bios-no-por-favor/c028#c-28</link>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Apr 2007 13:23:39 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>--14683--</dc:creator>
		<guid>https://www.meneame.net/story/phoenix-bios-no-por-favor/c028#c-28</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[<p>[Usuario deshabilitado]</p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>--14683--</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<meneame:comment_id>526419</meneame:comment_id>
		<meneame:link_id>124462</meneame:link_id>
		<meneame:order>27</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>bralmu</meneame:user>
		<meneame:votes>1</meneame:votes>
		<meneame:karma>15</meneame:karma>
		<meneame:url>https://www.meneame.net/story/phoenix-bios-no-por-favor</meneame:url>
		<title>#27 ¿Phoenix BIOS? No por favor.</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/phoenix-bios-no-por-favor/c027#c-27</link>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Apr 2007 13:15:34 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>bralmu</dc:creator>
		<guid>https://www.meneame.net/story/phoenix-bios-no-por-favor/c027#c-27</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[<p>Esa BIOS es opcional. Si quieres la pones y si no quieres, pones la normal. Nadie te obliga a nada.<br />
<br />
La noticia da a entender una verdad a medias. (amarilla)</p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>bralmu</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<meneame:comment_id>526357</meneame:comment_id>
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		<meneame:order>26</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>--7398--</meneame:user>
		<meneame:votes>1</meneame:votes>
		<meneame:karma>17</meneame:karma>
		<meneame:url>https://www.meneame.net/story/phoenix-bios-no-por-favor</meneame:url>
		<title>#26 ¿Phoenix BIOS? No por favor.</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/phoenix-bios-no-por-favor/c026#c-26</link>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Apr 2007 12:48:32 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>--7398--</dc:creator>
		<guid>https://www.meneame.net/story/phoenix-bios-no-por-favor/c026#c-26</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[<p>[Usuario deshabilitado]</p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>--7398--</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<meneame:comment_id>526351</meneame:comment_id>
		<meneame:link_id>124462</meneame:link_id>
		<meneame:order>25</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>--4678--</meneame:user>
		<meneame:votes>1</meneame:votes>
		<meneame:karma>18</meneame:karma>
		<meneame:url>https://www.meneame.net/story/phoenix-bios-no-por-favor</meneame:url>
		<title>#25 ¿Phoenix BIOS? No por favor.</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/phoenix-bios-no-por-favor/c025#c-25</link>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Apr 2007 12:46:42 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>--4678--</dc:creator>
		<guid>https://www.meneame.net/story/phoenix-bios-no-por-favor/c025#c-25</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[<p>Aún que sea Fake, no os preocupeis, Trusted Computing está cada vez más cerca y algún dia esto se convertirá en realidad.<br />
<br />
El primer paso es por contruir hardware que solo funcione con Windows. El segundo por no admitir otros sistemas operativos. El tercero por controlar y restringir al usuario de windows.</p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>--4678--</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<meneame:comment_id>526337</meneame:comment_id>
		<meneame:link_id>124462</meneame:link_id>
		<meneame:order>24</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>Rescondio</meneame:user>
		<meneame:votes>0</meneame:votes>
		<meneame:karma>6</meneame:karma>
		<meneame:url>https://www.meneame.net/story/phoenix-bios-no-por-favor</meneame:url>
		<title>#24 ¿Phoenix BIOS? No por favor.</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/phoenix-bios-no-por-favor/c024#c-24</link>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Apr 2007 12:43:29 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Rescondio</dc:creator>
		<guid>https://www.meneame.net/story/phoenix-bios-no-por-favor/c024#c-24</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[<p><a class="tooltip c:124462-21" href="https://www.meneame.net/story/phoenix-bios-no-por-favor/c021#c-21" rel="nofollow">#21</a> Vale.. tienes razón: además de provocador estaba tonto <img data-src="https://cdn.mnmstatic.net/v_149/img/menemojis/36/grin.png" alt=":-D" title=":-D" width="18" height="18" src="https://cdn.mnmstatic.net/v_149/img/g.gif" class="emoji lazy" /></p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>Rescondio</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<meneame:comment_id>526216</meneame:comment_id>
		<meneame:link_id>124462</meneame:link_id>
		<meneame:order>23</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>sprocket</meneame:user>
		<meneame:votes>0</meneame:votes>
		<meneame:karma>6</meneame:karma>
		<meneame:url>https://www.meneame.net/story/phoenix-bios-no-por-favor</meneame:url>
		<title>#23 ¿Phoenix BIOS? No por favor.</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/phoenix-bios-no-por-favor/c023#c-23</link>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Apr 2007 12:00:43 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>sprocket</dc:creator>
		<guid>https://www.meneame.net/story/phoenix-bios-no-por-favor/c023#c-23</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[<p>Los HP Pavillion traen BIOS phoenix y se puede instalar Linux. Escribo desde un Pavillion dv2000 con Ubuntu 6.06. Otra cosa es que la BIOS venga capadísima y no deje hacer prácticamente nada más que cambiar el idioma, la fecha y la prioridad de arranque.</p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>sprocket</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<meneame:comment_id>526179</meneame:comment_id>
		<meneame:link_id>124462</meneame:link_id>
		<meneame:order>22</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>pelu82</meneame:user>
		<meneame:votes>1</meneame:votes>
		<meneame:karma>12</meneame:karma>
		<meneame:url>https://www.meneame.net/story/phoenix-bios-no-por-favor</meneame:url>
		<title>#22 ¿Phoenix BIOS? No por favor.</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/phoenix-bios-no-por-favor/c022#c-22</link>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Apr 2007 11:47:13 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>pelu82</dc:creator>
		<guid>https://www.meneame.net/story/phoenix-bios-no-por-favor/c022#c-22</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[<p>Fake: mi portatil trae Phoenix bios también y debian etch funciona perfectamente. De todos los portátiles que he visto (toshiba, vaio, asus, acer...) todavía no me he tropezado con ninguno en que no funcionara (creo que la mayoría vienen con phoenix).<br />
<br />
Esto ya se esta columpiando demasiado, entre esto, lo de que vista no descomprime y demás... ¿¿¿FUDs a la inversa???</p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>pelu82</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<meneame:comment_id>525997</meneame:comment_id>
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		<meneame:order>21</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>--29745--</meneame:user>
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		<meneame:karma>12</meneame:karma>
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		<title>#21 ¿Phoenix BIOS? No por favor.</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/phoenix-bios-no-por-favor/c021#c-21</link>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Apr 2007 10:36:26 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>--29745--</dc:creator>
		<guid>https://www.meneame.net/story/phoenix-bios-no-por-favor/c021#c-21</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[<p>[Usuario deshabilitado]</p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>--29745--</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<meneame:comment_id>525988</meneame:comment_id>
		<meneame:link_id>124462</meneame:link_id>
		<meneame:order>20</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>--16501--</meneame:user>
		<meneame:votes>3</meneame:votes>
		<meneame:karma>20</meneame:karma>
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		<title>#20 ¿Phoenix BIOS? No por favor.</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/phoenix-bios-no-por-favor/c020#c-20</link>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Apr 2007 10:31:58 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>--16501--</dc:creator>
		<guid>https://www.meneame.net/story/phoenix-bios-no-por-favor/c020#c-20</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[<p>[Usuario deshabilitado]</p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>--16501--</strong></p>]]></description>
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	<item>
		<meneame:comment_id>525970</meneame:comment_id>
		<meneame:link_id>124462</meneame:link_id>
		<meneame:order>19</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>Rescondio</meneame:user>
		<meneame:votes>1</meneame:votes>
		<meneame:karma>12</meneame:karma>
		<meneame:url>https://www.meneame.net/story/phoenix-bios-no-por-favor</meneame:url>
		<title>#19 ¿Phoenix BIOS? No por favor.</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/phoenix-bios-no-por-favor/c019#c-19</link>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Apr 2007 10:26:46 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Rescondio</dc:creator>
		<guid>https://www.meneame.net/story/phoenix-bios-no-por-favor/c019#c-19</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[<p><a class="tooltip c:124462-16" href="https://www.meneame.net/story/phoenix-bios-no-por-favor/c016#c-16" rel="nofollow">#16</a> Ni siquiera el tuyo <img data-src="https://cdn.mnmstatic.net/v_149/img/menemojis/36/wink.png" alt=";)" title=";)" width="18" height="18" src="https://cdn.mnmstatic.net/v_149/img/g.gif" class="emoji lazy" /><br />
<br />
P.D. Yo no voto falsa porque estoy provocador esta mañana <img data-src="https://cdn.mnmstatic.net/v_149/img/menemojis/36/tongue.png" alt=":-P" title=":-P" width="18" height="18" src="https://cdn.mnmstatic.net/v_149/img/g.gif" class="emoji lazy" /></p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>Rescondio</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<meneame:comment_id>525935</meneame:comment_id>
		<meneame:link_id>124462</meneame:link_id>
		<meneame:order>18</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>--29745--</meneame:user>
		<meneame:votes>8</meneame:votes>
		<meneame:karma>56</meneame:karma>
		<meneame:url>https://www.meneame.net/story/phoenix-bios-no-por-favor</meneame:url>
		<title>#18 ¿Phoenix BIOS? No por favor.</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/phoenix-bios-no-por-favor/c018#c-18</link>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Apr 2007 10:09:28 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>--29745--</dc:creator>
		<guid>https://www.meneame.net/story/phoenix-bios-no-por-favor/c018#c-18</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[<p>[Usuario deshabilitado]</p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>--29745--</strong></p>]]></description>
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	<item>
		<meneame:comment_id>525927</meneame:comment_id>
		<meneame:link_id>124462</meneame:link_id>
		<meneame:order>17</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>--30843--</meneame:user>
		<meneame:votes>7</meneame:votes>
		<meneame:karma>33</meneame:karma>
		<meneame:url>https://www.meneame.net/story/phoenix-bios-no-por-favor</meneame:url>
		<title>#17 ¿Phoenix BIOS? No por favor.</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/phoenix-bios-no-por-favor/c017#c-17</link>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Apr 2007 10:06:11 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>--30843--</dc:creator>
		<guid>https://www.meneame.net/story/phoenix-bios-no-por-favor/c017#c-17</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[<p><a class="tooltip c:124462-16" href="https://www.meneame.net/story/phoenix-bios-no-por-favor/c016#c-16" rel="nofollow">#16</a> es antimicrosoft (o aliados) shhh que te pueden oir</p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>--30843--</strong></p>]]></description>
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	<item>
		<meneame:comment_id>525924</meneame:comment_id>
		<meneame:link_id>124462</meneame:link_id>
		<meneame:order>16</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>samsaga2</meneame:user>
		<meneame:votes>13</meneame:votes>
		<meneame:karma>80</meneame:karma>
		<meneame:url>https://www.meneame.net/story/phoenix-bios-no-por-favor</meneame:url>
		<title>#16 ¿Phoenix BIOS? No por favor.</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/phoenix-bios-no-por-favor/c016#c-16</link>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Apr 2007 10:04:59 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>samsaga2</dc:creator>
		<guid>https://www.meneame.net/story/phoenix-bios-no-por-favor/c016#c-16</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[<p>La noticia es rotundamente falsa. Si os leeis el hilo entero os dareis cuenta. Lo mejor es que esto ha llegado a portada sin un solo negativo.</p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>samsaga2</strong></p>]]></description>
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	<item>
		<meneame:comment_id>525907</meneame:comment_id>
		<meneame:link_id>124462</meneame:link_id>
		<meneame:order>15</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>--16029--</meneame:user>
		<meneame:votes>0</meneame:votes>
		<meneame:karma>13</meneame:karma>
		<meneame:url>https://www.meneame.net/story/phoenix-bios-no-por-favor</meneame:url>
		<title>#15 ¿Phoenix BIOS? No por favor.</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/phoenix-bios-no-por-favor/c015#c-15</link>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Apr 2007 09:59:44 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>--16029--</dc:creator>
		<guid>https://www.meneame.net/story/phoenix-bios-no-por-favor/c015#c-15</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[<p>Ya saldrá alguien que haga BIOS sin eso. Y les empezará a quitar cuota de mercado. Ellos mismos.</p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>--16029--</strong></p>]]></description>
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	<item>
		<meneame:comment_id>525900</meneame:comment_id>
		<meneame:link_id>124462</meneame:link_id>
		<meneame:order>14</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>--29745--</meneame:user>
		<meneame:votes>10</meneame:votes>
		<meneame:karma>70</meneame:karma>
		<meneame:url>https://www.meneame.net/story/phoenix-bios-no-por-favor</meneame:url>
		<title>#14 ¿Phoenix BIOS? No por favor.</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/phoenix-bios-no-por-favor/c014#c-14</link>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Apr 2007 09:58:39 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>--29745--</dc:creator>
		<guid>https://www.meneame.net/story/phoenix-bios-no-por-favor/c014#c-14</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[<p>[Usuario deshabilitado]</p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>--29745--</strong></p>]]></description>
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	<item>
		<meneame:comment_id>525878</meneame:comment_id>
		<meneame:link_id>124462</meneame:link_id>
		<meneame:order>13</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>elverdezlomejor</meneame:user>
		<meneame:votes>3</meneame:votes>
		<meneame:karma>28</meneame:karma>
		<meneame:url>https://www.meneame.net/story/phoenix-bios-no-por-favor</meneame:url>
		<title>#13 ¿Phoenix BIOS? No por favor.</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/phoenix-bios-no-por-favor/c013#c-13</link>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Apr 2007 09:49:08 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>elverdezlomejor</dc:creator>
		<guid>https://www.meneame.net/story/phoenix-bios-no-por-favor/c013#c-13</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[<p>Hoy estamos un paso más cerca que ayer de 1984, pero un paso más lejos que mañana.</p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>elverdezlomejor</strong></p>]]></description>
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	<item>
		<meneame:comment_id>525660</meneame:comment_id>
		<meneame:link_id>124462</meneame:link_id>
		<meneame:order>12</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>--7398--</meneame:user>
		<meneame:votes>4</meneame:votes>
		<meneame:karma>26</meneame:karma>
		<meneame:url>https://www.meneame.net/story/phoenix-bios-no-por-favor</meneame:url>
		<title>#12 ¿Phoenix BIOS? No por favor.</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/phoenix-bios-no-por-favor/c012#c-12</link>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Apr 2007 08:27:54 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>--7398--</dc:creator>
		<guid>https://www.meneame.net/story/phoenix-bios-no-por-favor/c012#c-12</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[<p>[Usuario deshabilitado]</p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>--7398--</strong></p>]]></description>
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	<item>
		<meneame:comment_id>525424</meneame:comment_id>
		<meneame:link_id>124462</meneame:link_id>
		<meneame:order>11</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>vicious</meneame:user>
		<meneame:votes>2</meneame:votes>
		<meneame:karma>10</meneame:karma>
		<meneame:url>https://www.meneame.net/story/phoenix-bios-no-por-favor</meneame:url>
		<title>#11 ¿Phoenix BIOS? No por favor.</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/phoenix-bios-no-por-favor/c011#c-11</link>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Apr 2007 06:39:59 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>vicious</dc:creator>
		<guid>https://www.meneame.net/story/phoenix-bios-no-por-favor/c011#c-11</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[<p>Estas BIOS son una auténtica mierda, con lo que la noticia simplemente confirma la regla...</p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>vicious</strong></p>]]></description>
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	<item>
		<meneame:comment_id>525374</meneame:comment_id>
		<meneame:link_id>124462</meneame:link_id>
		<meneame:order>10</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>--2516--</meneame:user>
		<meneame:votes>3</meneame:votes>
		<meneame:karma>32</meneame:karma>
		<meneame:url>https://www.meneame.net/story/phoenix-bios-no-por-favor</meneame:url>
		<title>#10 ¿Phoenix BIOS? No por favor.</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/phoenix-bios-no-por-favor/c010#c-10</link>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Apr 2007 05:13:05 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>--2516--</dc:creator>
		<guid>https://www.meneame.net/story/phoenix-bios-no-por-favor/c010#c-10</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[<p>[Usuario deshabilitado]</p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>--2516--</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<meneame:comment_id>525171</meneame:comment_id>
		<meneame:link_id>124462</meneame:link_id>
		<meneame:order>9</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>gejobj</meneame:user>
		<meneame:votes>5</meneame:votes>
		<meneame:karma>30</meneame:karma>
		<meneame:url>https://www.meneame.net/story/phoenix-bios-no-por-favor</meneame:url>
		<title>#9 ¿Phoenix BIOS? No por favor.</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/phoenix-bios-no-por-favor/c09#c-9</link>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Apr 2007 22:38:41 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>gejobj</dc:creator>
		<guid>https://www.meneame.net/story/phoenix-bios-no-por-favor/c09#c-9</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[<p>Y... ¿han probado a quitar la pila un par de minutos para que se resetee la BIOS?</p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>gejobj</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<meneame:comment_id>525169</meneame:comment_id>
		<meneame:link_id>124462</meneame:link_id>
		<meneame:order>8</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>paquito666</meneame:user>
		<meneame:votes>0</meneame:votes>
		<meneame:karma>14</meneame:karma>
		<meneame:url>https://www.meneame.net/story/phoenix-bios-no-por-favor</meneame:url>
		<title>#8 ¿Phoenix BIOS? No por favor.</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/phoenix-bios-no-por-favor/c08#c-8</link>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Apr 2007 22:36:58 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>paquito666</dc:creator>
		<guid>https://www.meneame.net/story/phoenix-bios-no-por-favor/c08#c-8</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[<p><a class="tooltip c:124462-4" href="https://www.meneame.net/story/phoenix-bios-no-por-favor/c04#c-4" rel="nofollow">#4</a> Editado. <img data-src="https://cdn.mnmstatic.net/v_149/img/menemojis/36/wink.png" alt=";)" title=";)" width="18" height="18" src="https://cdn.mnmstatic.net/v_149/img/g.gif" class="emoji lazy" /></p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>paquito666</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<meneame:comment_id>525134</meneame:comment_id>
		<meneame:link_id>124462</meneame:link_id>
		<meneame:order>7</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>--9826--</meneame:user>
		<meneame:votes>4</meneame:votes>
		<meneame:karma>17</meneame:karma>
		<meneame:url>https://www.meneame.net/story/phoenix-bios-no-por-favor</meneame:url>
		<title>#7 ¿Phoenix BIOS? No por favor.</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/phoenix-bios-no-por-favor/c07#c-7</link>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Apr 2007 22:13:16 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>--9826--</dc:creator>
		<guid>https://www.meneame.net/story/phoenix-bios-no-por-favor/c07#c-7</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[<p>[Usuario deshabilitado]</p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>--9826--</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<meneame:comment_id>525057</meneame:comment_id>
		<meneame:link_id>124462</meneame:link_id>
		<meneame:order>6</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>luthex</meneame:user>
		<meneame:votes>3</meneame:votes>
		<meneame:karma>27</meneame:karma>
		<meneame:url>https://www.meneame.net/story/phoenix-bios-no-por-favor</meneame:url>
		<title>#6 ¿Phoenix BIOS? No por favor.</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/phoenix-bios-no-por-favor/c06#c-6</link>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Apr 2007 21:29:33 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>luthex</dc:creator>
		<guid>https://www.meneame.net/story/phoenix-bios-no-por-favor/c06#c-6</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[<p>Yo cambiaria el porfavor del titulo de la noticia por un gracias.</p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>luthex</strong></p>]]></description>
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	<item>
		<meneame:comment_id>524980</meneame:comment_id>
		<meneame:link_id>124462</meneame:link_id>
		<meneame:order>5</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>gskbyte</meneame:user>
		<meneame:votes>9</meneame:votes>
		<meneame:karma>80</meneame:karma>
		<meneame:url>https://www.meneame.net/story/phoenix-bios-no-por-favor</meneame:url>
		<title>#5 ¿Phoenix BIOS? No por favor.</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/phoenix-bios-no-por-favor/c05#c-5</link>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Apr 2007 21:05:38 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>gskbyte</dc:creator>
		<guid>https://www.meneame.net/story/phoenix-bios-no-por-favor/c05#c-5</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[<p>¿Esto no se llama &#34;abuso de posición dominante&#34;? Además, es competencia desleal clarisima.</p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>gskbyte</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<meneame:comment_id>524938</meneame:comment_id>
		<meneame:link_id>124462</meneame:link_id>
		<meneame:order>4</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>--20929--</meneame:user>
		<meneame:votes>3</meneame:votes>
		<meneame:karma>12</meneame:karma>
		<meneame:url>https://www.meneame.net/story/phoenix-bios-no-por-favor</meneame:url>
		<title>#4 ¿Phoenix BIOS? No por favor.</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/phoenix-bios-no-por-favor/c04#c-4</link>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Apr 2007 20:45:08 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>--20929--</dc:creator>
		<guid>https://www.meneame.net/story/phoenix-bios-no-por-favor/c04#c-4</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[<p>[Usuario deshabilitado]</p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>--20929--</strong></p>]]></description>
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	<item>
		<meneame:comment_id>524925</meneame:comment_id>
		<meneame:link_id>124462</meneame:link_id>
		<meneame:order>3</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>drjackZon</meneame:user>
		<meneame:votes>4</meneame:votes>
		<meneame:karma>25</meneame:karma>
		<meneame:url>https://www.meneame.net/story/phoenix-bios-no-por-favor</meneame:url>
		<title>#3 ¿Phoenix BIOS? No por favor.</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/phoenix-bios-no-por-favor/c03#c-3</link>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Apr 2007 20:40:28 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>drjackZon</dc:creator>
		<guid>https://www.meneame.net/story/phoenix-bios-no-por-favor/c03#c-3</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[<p>Intro... du... ¿ciste?  ¡jiste!<br />
Bueno, otra cosa es ver cómo se distribuye la placa de marras.</p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>drjackZon</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<meneame:comment_id>524864</meneame:comment_id>
		<meneame:link_id>124462</meneame:link_id>
		<meneame:order>2</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>paquito666</meneame:user>
		<meneame:votes>2</meneame:votes>
		<meneame:karma>29</meneame:karma>
		<meneame:url>https://www.meneame.net/story/phoenix-bios-no-por-favor</meneame:url>
		<title>#2 ¿Phoenix BIOS? No por favor.</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/phoenix-bios-no-por-favor/c02#c-2</link>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Apr 2007 20:19:37 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>paquito666</dc:creator>
		<guid>https://www.meneame.net/story/phoenix-bios-no-por-favor/c02#c-2</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[<p>Ya lo confirmarán, pero así a bote pronto me parece bastante raro, y mas siendo en un Toshiba. En EEUU se los podrían comer vivos a demandas con toda la razón del mundo.</p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>paquito666</strong></p>]]></description>
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	<item>
		<meneame:comment_id>524826</meneame:comment_id>
		<meneame:link_id>124462</meneame:link_id>
		<meneame:order>1</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>--20929--</meneame:user>
		<meneame:votes>4</meneame:votes>
		<meneame:karma>28</meneame:karma>
		<meneame:url>https://www.meneame.net/story/phoenix-bios-no-por-favor</meneame:url>
		<title>#1 ¿Phoenix BIOS? No por favor.</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/phoenix-bios-no-por-favor/c01#c-1</link>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Apr 2007 20:09:00 +0000</pubDate>
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