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	<pubDate>Wed, 08 Sep 2010 15:12:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<meneame:comment_id>6963647</meneame:comment_id>
		<meneame:link_id>1043387</meneame:link_id>
		<meneame:order>13</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>jomersimson</meneame:user>
		<meneame:votes>0</meneame:votes>
		<meneame:karma>9</meneame:karma>
		<meneame:url>https://www.meneame.net/story/manager-banda-u2-pide-isp-pongan-freno-descargas</meneame:url>
		<title>#13 El manager de la banda U2 pide a los ISP que pongan freno a las descargas</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/manager-banda-u2-pide-isp-pongan-freno-descargas/c013#c-13</link>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Sep 2010 15:12:28 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>jomersimson</dc:creator>
		<guid>https://www.meneame.net/story/manager-banda-u2-pide-isp-pongan-freno-descargas/c013#c-13</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[<p>Puestos a controlar, el porno infantil me parece mucho más prioritario</p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>jomersimson</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<meneame:comment_id>6963386</meneame:comment_id>
		<meneame:link_id>1043387</meneame:link_id>
		<meneame:order>12</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>Nova6K0</meneame:user>
		<meneame:votes>1</meneame:votes>
		<meneame:karma>20</meneame:karma>
		<meneame:url>https://www.meneame.net/story/manager-banda-u2-pide-isp-pongan-freno-descargas</meneame:url>
		<title>#12 El manager de la banda U2 pide a los ISP que pongan freno a las descargas</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/manager-banda-u2-pide-isp-pongan-freno-descargas/c012#c-12</link>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Sep 2010 14:30:11 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Nova6K0</dc:creator>
		<guid>https://www.meneame.net/story/manager-banda-u2-pide-isp-pongan-freno-descargas/c012#c-12</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[<p>U2 otros de los grupos de artistas del copyright estricto e ilusos que se creen que si desapareciese las descargas, aumentarían vertiginosamente las ventas. <img data-src="https://cdn.mnmstatic.net/v_149/img/menemojis/36/lol.gif" alt="xD" title=":lol: xD" width="18" height="18" src="https://cdn.mnmstatic.net/v_149/img/g.gif" class="emoji lazy" /><br />
<br />
Salu2</p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>Nova6K0</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<meneame:comment_id>6963243</meneame:comment_id>
		<meneame:link_id>1043387</meneame:link_id>
		<meneame:order>11</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>xyzzy</meneame:user>
		<meneame:votes>0</meneame:votes>
		<meneame:karma>7</meneame:karma>
		<meneame:url>https://www.meneame.net/story/manager-banda-u2-pide-isp-pongan-freno-descargas</meneame:url>
		<title>#11 El manager de la banda U2 pide a los ISP que pongan freno a las descargas</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/manager-banda-u2-pide-isp-pongan-freno-descargas/c011#c-11</link>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Sep 2010 14:09:28 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>xyzzy</dc:creator>
		<guid>https://www.meneame.net/story/manager-banda-u2-pide-isp-pongan-freno-descargas/c011#c-11</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[<p>¿Quien baja música de U2? ¿Siguen sacando discos?</p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>xyzzy</strong></p>]]></description>
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	<item>
		<meneame:comment_id>6963231</meneame:comment_id>
		<meneame:link_id>1043387</meneame:link_id>
		<meneame:order>10</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>Robus</meneame:user>
		<meneame:votes>2</meneame:votes>
		<meneame:karma>24</meneame:karma>
		<meneame:url>https://www.meneame.net/story/manager-banda-u2-pide-isp-pongan-freno-descargas</meneame:url>
		<title>#10 El manager de la banda U2 pide a los ISP que pongan freno a las descargas</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/manager-banda-u2-pide-isp-pongan-freno-descargas/c010#c-10</link>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Sep 2010 14:07:35 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Robus</dc:creator>
		<guid>https://www.meneame.net/story/manager-banda-u2-pide-isp-pongan-freno-descargas/c010#c-10</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[<p>&#34;arremete contra ellos acusándolos de no querer ayuda a la industria musical y cinematográfica de forma voluntaria.&#34;<br />
<br />
A ver: <br />
<br />
1.- el negocio de las ISP depende que la gente contrate sus servicios; <br />
2.- la gente contrata sus servicios para poder descargarse cosas, algunas son música;<br />
3.- si las ISP no dejan que la gente descargue lo que quiera podran pasar dos cosas:<br />
<br />
  3.1 - La gente se va a otro proveedor de ISP.<br />
  3.2 - La gente no contrata un ISP.<br />
<br />
ergo, ¿por qué motivo las ISP van a querer, &#34;de forma voluntaria&#34; hechar piedras contra su tejado? <img data-src="https://cdn.mnmstatic.net/v_149/img/menemojis/36/roll.gif" alt=":roll:" title=":roll:" width="18" height="18" src="https://cdn.mnmstatic.net/v_149/img/g.gif" class="emoji lazy" /></p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>Robus</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<meneame:comment_id>6963105</meneame:comment_id>
		<meneame:link_id>1043387</meneame:link_id>
		<meneame:order>9</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>Ousdog</meneame:user>
		<meneame:votes>3</meneame:votes>
		<meneame:karma>31</meneame:karma>
		<meneame:url>https://www.meneame.net/story/manager-banda-u2-pide-isp-pongan-freno-descargas</meneame:url>
		<title>#9 El manager de la banda U2 pide a los ISP que pongan freno a las descargas</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/manager-banda-u2-pide-isp-pongan-freno-descargas/c09#c-9</link>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Sep 2010 13:49:39 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Ousdog</dc:creator>
		<guid>https://www.meneame.net/story/manager-banda-u2-pide-isp-pongan-freno-descargas/c09#c-9</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[<p><a class="tooltip c:1043387-7" href="https://www.meneame.net/story/manager-banda-u2-pide-isp-pongan-freno-descargas/c07#c-7" rel="nofollow">#7</a> La misma que tiene el cobrador de un peaje de autopista para evitar el narcotráfico.</p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>Ousdog</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<meneame:comment_id>6963072</meneame:comment_id>
		<meneame:link_id>1043387</meneame:link_id>
		<meneame:order>8</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>gorgonsola</meneame:user>
		<meneame:votes>1</meneame:votes>
		<meneame:karma>19</meneame:karma>
		<meneame:url>https://www.meneame.net/story/manager-banda-u2-pide-isp-pongan-freno-descargas</meneame:url>
		<title>#8 El manager de la banda U2 pide a los ISP que pongan freno a las descargas</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/manager-banda-u2-pide-isp-pongan-freno-descargas/c08#c-8</link>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Sep 2010 13:45:26 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>gorgonsola</dc:creator>
		<guid>https://www.meneame.net/story/manager-banda-u2-pide-isp-pongan-freno-descargas/c08#c-8</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[<p>Pobrecitos multimillonarios que no siguen enriqueciéndose toda la vida a base de la venta de CDs y van a tener que ponerse a dar conciertos.</p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>gorgonsola</strong></p>]]></description>
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	<item>
		<meneame:comment_id>6963051</meneame:comment_id>
		<meneame:link_id>1043387</meneame:link_id>
		<meneame:order>7</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>Florida_man</meneame:user>
		<meneame:votes>2</meneame:votes>
		<meneame:karma>25</meneame:karma>
		<meneame:url>https://www.meneame.net/story/manager-banda-u2-pide-isp-pongan-freno-descargas</meneame:url>
		<title>#7 El manager de la banda U2 pide a los ISP que pongan freno a las descargas</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/manager-banda-u2-pide-isp-pongan-freno-descargas/c07#c-7</link>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Sep 2010 13:42:43 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Florida_man</dc:creator>
		<guid>https://www.meneame.net/story/manager-banda-u2-pide-isp-pongan-freno-descargas/c07#c-7</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[<p>¿Qué obligación tienen los ISP de &#34;ayudar&#34; a la industria musical/cinematográfica?</p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>Florida_man</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<meneame:comment_id>6963012</meneame:comment_id>
		<meneame:link_id>1043387</meneame:link_id>
		<meneame:order>6</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>--170126--</meneame:user>
		<meneame:votes>1</meneame:votes>
		<meneame:karma>18</meneame:karma>
		<meneame:url>https://www.meneame.net/story/manager-banda-u2-pide-isp-pongan-freno-descargas</meneame:url>
		<title>#6 El manager de la banda U2 pide a los ISP que pongan freno a las descargas</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/manager-banda-u2-pide-isp-pongan-freno-descargas/c06#c-6</link>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Sep 2010 13:37:55 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>--170126--</dc:creator>
		<guid>https://www.meneame.net/story/manager-banda-u2-pide-isp-pongan-freno-descargas/c06#c-6</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[<p>[Usuario deshabilitado]</p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>--170126--</strong></p>]]></description>
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	<item>
		<meneame:comment_id>6962997</meneame:comment_id>
		<meneame:link_id>1043387</meneame:link_id>
		<meneame:order>5</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>Ousdog</meneame:user>
		<meneame:votes>3</meneame:votes>
		<meneame:karma>32</meneame:karma>
		<meneame:url>https://www.meneame.net/story/manager-banda-u2-pide-isp-pongan-freno-descargas</meneame:url>
		<title>#5 El manager de la banda U2 pide a los ISP que pongan freno a las descargas</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/manager-banda-u2-pide-isp-pongan-freno-descargas/c05#c-5</link>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Sep 2010 13:36:17 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Ousdog</dc:creator>
		<guid>https://www.meneame.net/story/manager-banda-u2-pide-isp-pongan-freno-descargas/c05#c-5</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[<p>Los ISPs no andamos mirando los bits que pasan por los cables. Simplemente garantizamos que pasen bits, y nos da igual lo que digan estos bits. Si quiere husmear en los cables, que consiga una órden judicial, y que pague de su bolsillo el sueldo del husmeador.</p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>Ousdog</strong></p>]]></description>
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	<item>
		<meneame:comment_id>6962983</meneame:comment_id>
		<meneame:link_id>1043387</meneame:link_id>
		<meneame:order>4</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>selvatgi</meneame:user>
		<meneame:votes>1</meneame:votes>
		<meneame:karma>20</meneame:karma>
		<meneame:url>https://www.meneame.net/story/manager-banda-u2-pide-isp-pongan-freno-descargas</meneame:url>
		<title>#4 El manager de la banda U2 pide a los ISP que pongan freno a las descargas</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/manager-banda-u2-pide-isp-pongan-freno-descargas/c04#c-4</link>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Sep 2010 13:34:39 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>selvatgi</dc:creator>
		<guid>https://www.meneame.net/story/manager-banda-u2-pide-isp-pongan-freno-descargas/c04#c-4</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[<p>Cuando dicen que no quieren ayudar de forma voluntaria se refiere a gratuita...</p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>selvatgi</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<meneame:comment_id>6962980</meneame:comment_id>
		<meneame:link_id>1043387</meneame:link_id>
		<meneame:order>3</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>--174255--</meneame:user>
		<meneame:votes>1</meneame:votes>
		<meneame:karma>20</meneame:karma>
		<meneame:url>https://www.meneame.net/story/manager-banda-u2-pide-isp-pongan-freno-descargas</meneame:url>
		<title>#3 El manager de la banda U2 pide a los ISP que pongan freno a las descargas</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/manager-banda-u2-pide-isp-pongan-freno-descargas/c03#c-3</link>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Sep 2010 13:34:05 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>--174255--</dc:creator>
		<guid>https://www.meneame.net/story/manager-banda-u2-pide-isp-pongan-freno-descargas/c03#c-3</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[<p>Los dinosaurios se resisten y se niegan a aceptar que su destino es la extioncion.</p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>--174255--</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<meneame:comment_id>6962969</meneame:comment_id>
		<meneame:link_id>1043387</meneame:link_id>
		<meneame:order>2</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>Martixx</meneame:user>
		<meneame:votes>1</meneame:votes>
		<meneame:karma>16</meneame:karma>
		<meneame:url>https://www.meneame.net/story/manager-banda-u2-pide-isp-pongan-freno-descargas</meneame:url>
		<title>#2 El manager de la banda U2 pide a los ISP que pongan freno a las descargas</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/manager-banda-u2-pide-isp-pongan-freno-descargas/c02#c-2</link>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Sep 2010 13:32:31 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Martixx</dc:creator>
		<guid>https://www.meneame.net/story/manager-banda-u2-pide-isp-pongan-freno-descargas/c02#c-2</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[<p>Es básicamente lo mismo que esta: <a href="http://www.meneame.net/story/manager-u2-exige-web-pague-industria-musica" title="www.meneame.net/story/manager-u2-exige-web-pague-industria-musica" rel="nofollow">www.meneame.net/story/manager-u2-exige-web-pague-industria-musica</a></p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>Martixx</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<meneame:comment_id>6962888</meneame:comment_id>
		<meneame:link_id>1043387</meneame:link_id>
		<meneame:order>1</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>elmonoguayaco</meneame:user>
		<meneame:votes>2</meneame:votes>
		<meneame:karma>32</meneame:karma>
		<meneame:url>https://www.meneame.net/story/manager-banda-u2-pide-isp-pongan-freno-descargas</meneame:url>
		<title>#1 El manager de la banda U2 pide a los ISP que pongan freno a las descargas</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/manager-banda-u2-pide-isp-pongan-freno-descargas/c01#c-1</link>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Sep 2010 13:20:45 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>elmonoguayaco</dc:creator>
		<guid>https://www.meneame.net/story/manager-banda-u2-pide-isp-pongan-freno-descargas/c01#c-1</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[<p>La fuente original en ingles:<br />
<a href="http://www.gq-magazine.co.uk/entertainment/articles/2010-08/13/gq-music-paul-mcguinness-on-music-piracy/file-sharing-on-spotify-and-piracy" title="www.gq-magazine.co.uk/entertainment/articles/2010-08/13/gq-music-paul-mcguinness-on-music-piracy/file-sharing-on-spotify-and-piracy" rel="nofollow">www.gq-magazine.co.uk/entertainment/articles/2010-08/13/gq-music-paul-</a></p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>elmonoguayaco</strong></p>]]></description>
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