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		<meneame:comment_id>6898803</meneame:comment_id>
		<meneame:link_id>1034655</meneame:link_id>
		<meneame:order>10</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>--23321--</meneame:user>
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		<meneame:karma>10</meneame:karma>
		<meneame:url>https://www.meneame.net/story/malcon-primera-conferencia-programadores-malware-eng</meneame:url>
		<title>#10 MalCon, la primera conferencia de programadores de malware [Eng]</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/malcon-primera-conferencia-programadores-malware-eng/c010#c-10</link>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Aug 2010 09:52:04 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>--23321--</dc:creator>
		<guid>https://www.meneame.net/story/malcon-primera-conferencia-programadores-malware-eng/c010#c-10</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[<p><a class="tooltip c:1034655-9" href="https://www.meneame.net/story/malcon-primera-conferencia-programadores-malware-eng/c09#c-9" rel="nofollow">#9</a> Eso que comentas, es una de esas frases repetidas hasta la saciedad en internet, y que de tanto vox populi y tanto repetirlas, la gente cree que son verdad, pero no están argumentadas.<br />
<br />
Dado que:<br />
<br />
1. Windows 7 tiene una gestión de privilegios muy avanzada<br />
2. windows dispone de canary desde vista<br />
3. Windows dispone de memory write or execute desde vista<br />
<br />
Todas ellas, funcionalidades diseñadas por el equipo de mi avatar (OpenBSD) y algunas portadas a grsec (parche para linux, que no viene por defecto instalado) yo te pregunto:<br />
<br />
1. teniendo en cuenta el tiempo que llevan en GNU/Linux intentando evitar el jump to libc, y cagadas como libgate<br />
2. teniendo en cuenta que por defecto, linux no lleva canary<br />
<br />
Como puedes, de una forma técnica, decirme que Windows es un coladero y GNU/Linux no, tengo curiosidad.<br />
<br />
Las cosas no se convierten en verdad por repetirlas hasta la saciedad.</p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>--23321--</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<meneame:comment_id>6897465</meneame:comment_id>
		<meneame:link_id>1034655</meneame:link_id>
		<meneame:order>9</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>--188054--</meneame:user>
		<meneame:votes>1</meneame:votes>
		<meneame:karma>18</meneame:karma>
		<meneame:url>https://www.meneame.net/story/malcon-primera-conferencia-programadores-malware-eng</meneame:url>
		<title>#9 MalCon, la primera conferencia de programadores de malware [Eng]</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/malcon-primera-conferencia-programadores-malware-eng/c09#c-9</link>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Aug 2010 21:32:32 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>--188054--</dc:creator>
		<guid>https://www.meneame.net/story/malcon-primera-conferencia-programadores-malware-eng/c09#c-9</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[<p><a class="tooltip c:1034655-6" href="https://www.meneame.net/story/malcon-primera-conferencia-programadores-malware-eng/c06#c-6" rel="nofollow">#6</a> No compares. Windows es un coladero intencional, Mac un coladero incidental y Linux tiene huecos, pero ni están quietos ni son grandes. Por tu avatar deberías saberlo <img data-src="https://cdn.mnmstatic.net/v_149/img/menemojis/36/roll.gif" alt=":roll:" title=":roll:" width="18" height="18" src="https://cdn.mnmstatic.net/v_149/img/g.gif" class="emoji lazy" /></p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>--188054--</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<meneame:comment_id>6897398</meneame:comment_id>
		<meneame:link_id>1034655</meneame:link_id>
		<meneame:order>8</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>JanSmite</meneame:user>
		<meneame:votes>0</meneame:votes>
		<meneame:karma>14</meneame:karma>
		<meneame:url>https://www.meneame.net/story/malcon-primera-conferencia-programadores-malware-eng</meneame:url>
		<title>#8 MalCon, la primera conferencia de programadores de malware [Eng]</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/malcon-primera-conferencia-programadores-malware-eng/c08#c-8</link>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Aug 2010 21:15:56 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>JanSmite</dc:creator>
		<guid>https://www.meneame.net/story/malcon-primera-conferencia-programadores-malware-eng/c08#c-8</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[<p>MalCon, como los hermanos Pinzones... <img data-src="https://cdn.mnmstatic.net/v_149/img/menemojis/36/wink.png" alt=";)" title=";)" width="18" height="18" src="https://cdn.mnmstatic.net/v_149/img/g.gif" class="emoji lazy" /> <img data-src="https://cdn.mnmstatic.net/v_149/img/menemojis/36/grin.png" alt=":-D" title=":-D" width="18" height="18" src="https://cdn.mnmstatic.net/v_149/img/g.gif" class="emoji lazy" /></p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>JanSmite</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<meneame:comment_id>6897275</meneame:comment_id>
		<meneame:link_id>1034655</meneame:link_id>
		<meneame:order>7</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>crodas</meneame:user>
		<meneame:votes>1</meneame:votes>
		<meneame:karma>17</meneame:karma>
		<meneame:url>https://www.meneame.net/story/malcon-primera-conferencia-programadores-malware-eng</meneame:url>
		<title>#7 MalCon, la primera conferencia de programadores de malware [Eng]</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/malcon-primera-conferencia-programadores-malware-eng/c07#c-7</link>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Aug 2010 20:48:33 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>crodas</dc:creator>
		<guid>https://www.meneame.net/story/malcon-primera-conferencia-programadores-malware-eng/c07#c-7</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[<p><a class="tooltip c:1034655-6" href="https://www.meneame.net/story/malcon-primera-conferencia-programadores-malware-eng/c06#c-6" rel="nofollow">#6</a> Es difícil, pero no imposible ya que siempre hay errores involuntarios que pueden ser explotados (como en el vídeo de arriba).</p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>crodas</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<meneame:comment_id>6897254</meneame:comment_id>
		<meneame:link_id>1034655</meneame:link_id>
		<meneame:order>6</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>--23321--</meneame:user>
		<meneame:votes>0</meneame:votes>
		<meneame:karma>10</meneame:karma>
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		<title>#6 MalCon, la primera conferencia de programadores de malware [Eng]</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/malcon-primera-conferencia-programadores-malware-eng/c06#c-6</link>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Aug 2010 20:43:40 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>--23321--</dc:creator>
		<guid>https://www.meneame.net/story/malcon-primera-conferencia-programadores-malware-eng/c06#c-6</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[<p><a class="tooltip c:1034655-1" href="https://www.meneame.net/story/malcon-primera-conferencia-programadores-malware-eng/c01#c-1" rel="nofollow">#1</a> eso piensas, sin embargo el día que a esta gente le salga rentable, pondrán un ejercito de gente a desarrollar todo tipo de malwares para GNU/Linux o lo que haga falta.<br />
<br />
Es una cuestión de cifras ($) no de seguridad informática ni sistemas operativos.</p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>--23321--</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<meneame:comment_id>6897125</meneame:comment_id>
		<meneame:link_id>1034655</meneame:link_id>
		<meneame:order>5</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>crodas</meneame:user>
		<meneame:votes>1</meneame:votes>
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		<meneame:url>https://www.meneame.net/story/malcon-primera-conferencia-programadores-malware-eng</meneame:url>
		<title>#5 MalCon, la primera conferencia de programadores de malware [Eng]</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/malcon-primera-conferencia-programadores-malware-eng/c05#c-5</link>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Aug 2010 20:16:42 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>crodas</dc:creator>
		<guid>https://www.meneame.net/story/malcon-primera-conferencia-programadores-malware-eng/c05#c-5</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[<p><a class="tooltip c:1034655-1" href="https://www.meneame.net/story/malcon-primera-conferencia-programadores-malware-eng/c01#c-1" rel="nofollow">#1</a> Yo también utilizo Unix desde hace unos años, pero hay ataques como <a href="http://www.thoughtcrime.org/software/sslsniff/video/null-prefix-attack-defcon.m4v" title="www.thoughtcrime.org/software/sslsniff/video/null-prefix-attack-defcon.m4v" rel="nofollow">www.thoughtcrime.org/software/sslsniff/video/null-prefix-attack-defcon</a>  a lo que  <strong>todos</strong> estamos expuestos (después de ver este vídeo no pude dormir del miedo).</p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>crodas</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<meneame:comment_id>6897114</meneame:comment_id>
		<meneame:link_id>1034655</meneame:link_id>
		<meneame:order>4</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>eduardomo</meneame:user>
		<meneame:votes>0</meneame:votes>
		<meneame:karma>8</meneame:karma>
		<meneame:url>https://www.meneame.net/story/malcon-primera-conferencia-programadores-malware-eng</meneame:url>
		<title>#4 MalCon, la primera conferencia de programadores de malware [Eng]</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/malcon-primera-conferencia-programadores-malware-eng/c04#c-4</link>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Aug 2010 20:12:43 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>eduardomo</dc:creator>
		<guid>https://www.meneame.net/story/malcon-primera-conferencia-programadores-malware-eng/c04#c-4</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[<p>Mala cornada les den.</p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>eduardomo</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<meneame:comment_id>6897084</meneame:comment_id>
		<meneame:link_id>1034655</meneame:link_id>
		<meneame:order>3</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>roseh</meneame:user>
		<meneame:votes>0</meneame:votes>
		<meneame:karma>6</meneame:karma>
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		<title>#3 MalCon, la primera conferencia de programadores de malware [Eng]</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/malcon-primera-conferencia-programadores-malware-eng/c03#c-3</link>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Aug 2010 20:07:45 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>roseh</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[<p><a class="tooltip c:1034655-2" href="https://www.meneame.net/story/malcon-primera-conferencia-programadores-malware-eng/c02#c-2" rel="nofollow">#2</a> <img data-src="https://cdn.mnmstatic.net/v_149/img/menemojis/36/lol.gif" alt="xD" title=":lol: xD" width="18" height="18" src="https://cdn.mnmstatic.net/v_149/img/g.gif" class="emoji lazy" />!</p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>roseh</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<meneame:comment_id>6897074</meneame:comment_id>
		<meneame:link_id>1034655</meneame:link_id>
		<meneame:order>2</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>--146939--</meneame:user>
		<meneame:votes>4</meneame:votes>
		<meneame:karma>47</meneame:karma>
		<meneame:url>https://www.meneame.net/story/malcon-primera-conferencia-programadores-malware-eng</meneame:url>
		<title>#2 MalCon, la primera conferencia de programadores de malware [Eng]</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/malcon-primera-conferencia-programadores-malware-eng/c02#c-2</link>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Aug 2010 20:03:53 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>--146939--</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_6pQ_uBvM2iY/R3W-fLAJYaI/AAAAAAAAAOg/vrhWGyieSHU/s400/malcolm2.jpg" title="1.bp.blogspot.com/_6pQ_uBvM2iY/R3W-fLAJYaI/AAAAAAAAAOg/vrhWGyieSHU/s400/malcolm2.jpg" rel="nofollow">1.bp.blogspot.com/_6pQ_uBvM2iY/R3W-fLAJYaI/AAAAAAAAAOg/vrhWGyieSHU/s40</a></p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>--146939--</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<meneame:comment_id>6897073</meneame:comment_id>
		<meneame:link_id>1034655</meneame:link_id>
		<meneame:order>1</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>--188054--</meneame:user>
		<meneame:votes>2</meneame:votes>
		<meneame:karma>23</meneame:karma>
		<meneame:url>https://www.meneame.net/story/malcon-primera-conferencia-programadores-malware-eng</meneame:url>
		<title>#1 MalCon, la primera conferencia de programadores de malware [Eng]</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/malcon-primera-conferencia-programadores-malware-eng/c01#c-1</link>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Aug 2010 20:03:25 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>--188054--</dc:creator>
		<guid>https://www.meneame.net/story/malcon-primera-conferencia-programadores-malware-eng/c01#c-1</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[<p>$ gcc comment.c -pedantic<br />
$ ./a.out<br />
<a href="/search?w=comments&#38;q=%23MeLaSudaUsoLinux&#38;o=date">#MeLaSudaUsoLinux</a> <img data-src="https://cdn.mnmstatic.net/v_149/img/menemojis/36/lol.gif" alt="xD" title=":lol: xD" width="18" height="18" src="https://cdn.mnmstatic.net/v_149/img/g.gif" class="emoji lazy" /><br />
$</p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>--188054--</strong></p>]]></description>
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