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		<meneame:order>13</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>gz_style</meneame:user>
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		<title>#13 ING Direct ¿Error de imprenta o marketing viral?</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/ing-direct-error-imprenta-marketing-viral/c013#c-13</link>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Jul 2010 20:52:20 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>gz_style</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[<p><a class="tooltip c:1005293-8" href="https://www.meneame.net/story/ing-direct-error-imprenta-marketing-viral/c08#c-8" rel="nofollow">#8</a> Más <i>facial</i> no sé. Lo que es seguro es que si no te andas con ojo al introducirlo, cualquiera podría ver cual es. De todas formas cualquier cosa mejora la seguridad de la banda magnética, ni siquiera se necesita conocer tu PIN para utilizarla. <img data-src="https://cdn.mnmstatic.net/v_149/img/menemojis/36/wink.png" alt=";)" title=";)" width="18" height="18" src="https://cdn.mnmstatic.net/v_149/img/g.gif" class="emoji lazy" /></p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>gz_style</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<meneame:comment_id>6671951</meneame:comment_id>
		<meneame:link_id>1005293</meneame:link_id>
		<meneame:order>12</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>beriadan</meneame:user>
		<meneame:votes>0</meneame:votes>
		<meneame:karma>7</meneame:karma>
		<meneame:url>https://www.meneame.net/story/ing-direct-error-imprenta-marketing-viral</meneame:url>
		<title>#12 ING Direct ¿Error de imprenta o marketing viral?</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/ing-direct-error-imprenta-marketing-viral/c012#c-12</link>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Jul 2010 20:18:41 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>beriadan</dc:creator>
		<guid>https://www.meneame.net/story/ing-direct-error-imprenta-marketing-viral/c012#c-12</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[<p><a class="tooltip c:1005293-9" href="https://www.meneame.net/story/ing-direct-error-imprenta-marketing-viral/c09#c-9" rel="nofollow">#9</a> La propaganda se suele utilizar con fines ideológicos, aunque tienes razón en que tiene esa definición, que es similar a la publicidad.</p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>beriadan</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<meneame:comment_id>6671915</meneame:comment_id>
		<meneame:link_id>1005293</meneame:link_id>
		<meneame:order>11</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>jomi_mc</meneame:user>
		<meneame:votes>0</meneame:votes>
		<meneame:karma>6</meneame:karma>
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		<title>#11 ING Direct ¿Error de imprenta o marketing viral?</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/ing-direct-error-imprenta-marketing-viral/c011#c-11</link>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Jul 2010 20:09:29 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>jomi_mc</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[<p><a class="tooltip c:1005293-10" href="https://www.meneame.net/story/ing-direct-error-imprenta-marketing-viral/c010#c-10" rel="nofollow">#10</a> En Francia la tecnologia del chip se usa desde hace muchos años. El chip dificulta el clonado de tarjeta muchisimo. Es mas en Francia nadie usa la banda magnetica y se usa el chip mas el pin, sin pedir DNI. De tal forma que todo es mucho mas rapido.<br />
Es cierto que a veces consiguen clonar las tarjetas, pero creo que es porque consiguen clonar la banda y te roban el pin por microcamaras, pero creo que nunca por el chip.<br />
<br />
Cada vez que estoy en España y me piden el DNI o veo que pasan la banda de la tarjeta me siento como hace 15 años...</p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>jomi_mc</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<meneame:comment_id>6671852</meneame:comment_id>
		<meneame:link_id>1005293</meneame:link_id>
		<meneame:order>10</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>--4302--</meneame:user>
		<meneame:votes>1</meneame:votes>
		<meneame:karma>20</meneame:karma>
		<meneame:url>https://www.meneame.net/story/ing-direct-error-imprenta-marketing-viral</meneame:url>
		<title>#10 ING Direct ¿Error de imprenta o marketing viral?</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/ing-direct-error-imprenta-marketing-viral/c010#c-10</link>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Jul 2010 19:55:22 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>--4302--</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[<p>[Usuario deshabilitado]</p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>--4302--</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<meneame:comment_id>6671800</meneame:comment_id>
		<meneame:link_id>1005293</meneame:link_id>
		<meneame:order>9</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>Jeau</meneame:user>
		<meneame:votes>1</meneame:votes>
		<meneame:karma>0</meneame:karma>
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		<title>#9 ING Direct ¿Error de imprenta o marketing viral?</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/ing-direct-error-imprenta-marketing-viral/c09#c-9</link>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Jul 2010 19:44:30 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Jeau</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[<p><a class="tooltip c:1005293-5" href="https://www.meneame.net/story/ing-direct-error-imprenta-marketing-viral/c05#c-5" rel="nofollow">#5</a><br />
<strong>publicidad.</strong><br />
3. f. Divulgación de noticias o anuncios de carácter comercial para atraer a posibles compradores, espectadores, usuarios, etc.<br />
<br />
<strong>propaganda.</strong><br />
1. f. Acción o efecto de dar a conocer algo con el fin de atraer adeptos o compradores.<br />
<br />
Lo cierto es que sí pueden ser exactamente lo mismo. No sé qué problema le ves.</p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>Jeau</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<meneame:comment_id>6671778</meneame:comment_id>
		<meneame:link_id>1005293</meneame:link_id>
		<meneame:order>8</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>OdracirLS</meneame:user>
		<meneame:votes>0</meneame:votes>
		<meneame:karma>6</meneame:karma>
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		<title>#8 ING Direct ¿Error de imprenta o marketing viral?</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/ing-direct-error-imprenta-marketing-viral/c08#c-8</link>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Jul 2010 19:39:50 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>OdracirLS</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[<p>nuevamente gracias a todos, pero ahora se me plantea una duda, no sera mas facial ahora que te copien el pin, ha tener que introducirlo continuamente cada vez que usemos la tarjeta.</p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>OdracirLS</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<meneame:comment_id>6671720</meneame:comment_id>
		<meneame:link_id>1005293</meneame:link_id>
		<meneame:order>7</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>sorrillo</meneame:user>
		<meneame:votes>0</meneame:votes>
		<meneame:karma>7</meneame:karma>
		<meneame:url>https://www.meneame.net/story/ing-direct-error-imprenta-marketing-viral</meneame:url>
		<title>#7 ING Direct ¿Error de imprenta o marketing viral?</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/ing-direct-error-imprenta-marketing-viral/c07#c-7</link>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Jul 2010 19:28:50 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>sorrillo</dc:creator>
		<guid>https://www.meneame.net/story/ing-direct-error-imprenta-marketing-viral/c07#c-7</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[<p><a class="tooltip c:1005293-6" href="https://www.meneame.net/story/ing-direct-error-imprenta-marketing-viral/c06#c-6" rel="nofollow">#6</a> Yo la recibí y no le dí mayor importancia, vi la carta escrita a mano y sin leerla ni darle mas vueltas di por sentado que formaba parte de la publicidad.<br />
<br />
Aún la tenía por ahí y efectivamente el objetivo es explicar lo fácil que es falsificar una firma tal como comenta <a class="tooltip c:1005293-5" href="https://www.meneame.net/story/ing-direct-error-imprenta-marketing-viral/c05#c-5" rel="nofollow">#5</a>.</p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>sorrillo</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<meneame:comment_id>6671691</meneame:comment_id>
		<meneame:link_id>1005293</meneame:link_id>
		<meneame:order>6</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>OdracirLS</meneame:user>
		<meneame:votes>0</meneame:votes>
		<meneame:karma>6</meneame:karma>
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		<title>#6 ING Direct ¿Error de imprenta o marketing viral?</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/ing-direct-error-imprenta-marketing-viral/c06#c-6</link>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Jul 2010 19:23:28 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>OdracirLS</dc:creator>
		<guid>https://www.meneame.net/story/ing-direct-error-imprenta-marketing-viral/c06#c-6</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[<p><a class="tooltip c:1005293-5" href="https://www.meneame.net/story/ing-direct-error-imprenta-marketing-viral/c05#c-5" rel="nofollow">#5</a> Pues ahora que lo dices tiene sentido, pero cuando recibí la carta no se lo encontraba.</p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>OdracirLS</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<meneame:comment_id>6671677</meneame:comment_id>
		<meneame:link_id>1005293</meneame:link_id>
		<meneame:order>5</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>beriadan</meneame:user>
		<meneame:votes>12</meneame:votes>
		<meneame:karma>131</meneame:karma>
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		<title>#5 ING Direct ¿Error de imprenta o marketing viral?</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/ing-direct-error-imprenta-marketing-viral/c05#c-5</link>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Jul 2010 19:20:41 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>beriadan</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[<p>Significa simplemente que cualquiera puede falsificar tu firma, pero no el chip de la tarjeta.<br />
<br />
Por cierto, no es lo mismo propaganda que publicidad.</p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>beriadan</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<meneame:comment_id>6671619</meneame:comment_id>
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		<meneame:order>4</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>--35057--</meneame:user>
		<meneame:votes>0</meneame:votes>
		<meneame:karma>12</meneame:karma>
		<meneame:url>https://www.meneame.net/story/ing-direct-error-imprenta-marketing-viral</meneame:url>
		<title>#4 ING Direct ¿Error de imprenta o marketing viral?</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/ing-direct-error-imprenta-marketing-viral/c04#c-4</link>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Jul 2010 19:09:07 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>--35057--</dc:creator>
		<guid>https://www.meneame.net/story/ing-direct-error-imprenta-marketing-viral/c04#c-4</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[<p>Es que tiene pinta de ser el mismo folio</p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>--35057--</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<meneame:comment_id>6671617</meneame:comment_id>
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		<meneame:order>3</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>tachyon</meneame:user>
		<meneame:votes>0</meneame:votes>
		<meneame:karma>6</meneame:karma>
		<meneame:url>https://www.meneame.net/story/ing-direct-error-imprenta-marketing-viral</meneame:url>
		<title>#3 ING Direct ¿Error de imprenta o marketing viral?</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/ing-direct-error-imprenta-marketing-viral/c03#c-3</link>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Jul 2010 19:08:42 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>tachyon</dc:creator>
		<guid>https://www.meneame.net/story/ing-direct-error-imprenta-marketing-viral/c03#c-3</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[<p>Cómo sabe Manolito, ¡cómo sabe! <img data-src="https://cdn.mnmstatic.net/v_149/img/menemojis/36/lol.gif" alt="xD" title=":lol: xD" width="18" height="18" src="https://cdn.mnmstatic.net/v_149/img/g.gif" class="emoji lazy" /> <img data-src="https://cdn.mnmstatic.net/v_149/img/menemojis/36/lol.gif" alt="xD" title=":lol: xD" width="18" height="18" src="https://cdn.mnmstatic.net/v_149/img/g.gif" class="emoji lazy" /> <img data-src="https://cdn.mnmstatic.net/v_149/img/menemojis/36/lol.gif" alt="xD" title=":lol: xD" width="18" height="18" src="https://cdn.mnmstatic.net/v_149/img/g.gif" class="emoji lazy" /> <img data-src="https://cdn.mnmstatic.net/v_149/img/menemojis/36/lol.gif" alt="xD" title=":lol: xD" width="18" height="18" src="https://cdn.mnmstatic.net/v_149/img/g.gif" class="emoji lazy" /> <img data-src="https://cdn.mnmstatic.net/v_149/img/menemojis/36/lol.gif" alt="xD" title=":lol: xD" width="18" height="18" src="https://cdn.mnmstatic.net/v_149/img/g.gif" class="emoji lazy" /></p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>tachyon</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<meneame:comment_id>6671584</meneame:comment_id>
		<meneame:link_id>1005293</meneame:link_id>
		<meneame:order>2</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>Libertual</meneame:user>
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		<meneame:karma>7</meneame:karma>
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		<title>#2 ING Direct ¿Error de imprenta o marketing viral?</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/ing-direct-error-imprenta-marketing-viral/c02#c-2</link>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Jul 2010 19:03:54 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Libertual</dc:creator>
		<guid>https://www.meneame.net/story/ing-direct-error-imprenta-marketing-viral/c02#c-2</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[<p>Tiene sentido si quieres estar seguro de la identidad del titular.<br />
Un poco rebuscado pero curioso.<br />
<br />
Ya lo dijo gomaespuma:<br />
<br />
Si hay que bujcar se rebujca.</p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>Libertual</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<meneame:comment_id>6671581</meneame:comment_id>
		<meneame:link_id>1005293</meneame:link_id>
		<meneame:order>1</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>Bernard</meneame:user>
		<meneame:votes>0</meneame:votes>
		<meneame:karma>10</meneame:karma>
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		<title>#1 ING Direct ¿Error de imprenta o marketing viral?</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/ing-direct-error-imprenta-marketing-viral/c01#c-1</link>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Jul 2010 19:03:31 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Bernard</dc:creator>
		<guid>https://www.meneame.net/story/ing-direct-error-imprenta-marketing-viral/c01#c-1</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[<p>O simplemente has recibido algo que no tenía que haberte llegado.</p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>Bernard</strong></p>]]></description>
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